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Thank you. As jen said isis since yesterday people were worried about everything about the taliban. They were psychologically a lot of situations The Gates [inaudible] but since Yesterday Isis created afghan people are more worried. Do you think that this [inaudible] and everybody now wants to leave the country because now is double. Before was only taliban. Now isis also show up One More Time their activity. Do you think thats another [inaudible] before i try to answer that question, i do want to take the opportunity on behalf of the Department Of Defense to also make sure that we express our condolences for the afghan people who suffered in yesterdays attack. We know that there were a number of killed and wounded afghan civilians at the airport and that there are families that are dealing with the same devastating, terrible news that now gold star families here in the department are dealing with. Again on behalf of the secretary we offer our condolences, thoughts and prayers. I wish i had a Crystal Ball and know for sure what will happen in afghanistan. We dont. We obviously dont want to see the country torn asunder through Civil War but thats why whatever the future of afghanistan is from a Governance Perspective we will stay engaged with the international community to make sure that afghanistan leaders are held to proper account for The Way they are governing and that afghanistans neighbors also try to play a constructive, productive role in whatever the future of afghanistan is going to be. Though we will not have a Military Presence there, the united States Government will still want to see what we can do with the international community to make sure that afghans can have the best of all possible outcomes for their future. But i just i think it would be foolish for us to try to be too predictive about what is going to happen right now. You will change the policy to involved in afghanistan again . The commanderinchief has made a very clear decision that it is time to end Americas Involvement on the ground in the war in afghanistan. And we are going to execute that decision, as we should. David. For the record, would you clear up the confusion over the Service Affiliation of the dead . It sounds like we have a total number of 13. The break down in the 13 is a little unclear. Marines say at this time 10. Can you tell us what it is and then i have a question for The General. Imnote able to break it down specifically right now, david. And i want to defer to the services to speak to their specific number of casualties. As you can imagine, they are having to make they are having to have difficult conversations with a number of families and we dont want to get ahead of that process. I just i think on that one i would defer to the services. General, you didnt answer the question about whether the taliban have met General Mckenzies request to push the perimeter further out away from the airport. And he also said he was going to ask them to close some specific roads. Bill sorry, i know those just exactly what General Mckenzie said are passed to those commanders with conversations to the taliban and other activities that will increase the security and the facilitation of those getting through. Do you know if that has happened . The discussions . I cannot report at this point what actions the taliban have taken in the last. But i know that those discussions are happening and have happened. I have to get to the phones a little bit here. Laura, politico. Are you there, laura . Okay. Well come back to you. Tony. Yesterday the president said we are going to be in a circumstance where i believe numerous opportunities will continue to provide access for additional persons to get out of afghanistan. This is after the 31st. He said either through means that we provide or are provided through in cooperation with the taliban. Can you give me a sense of the planning you are doing to take that direction to heart . And what are the military implications of the president s desire for still removing people after the 31st . There will be continued talks with the taliban staging a force in the region to get more people out, etc. Tony, i think my colleague at the white House And State department have addressed this question before. We the interagency, u. S. Government will pursue a variety of ways to help any americans who want to get out after our Military Presence at the airport has ended to be able to help them get out. It is while afghanistan is a unique case, it is not completely separated from the larger effort that the united States Government pursues All Over The World when we know that americans are at special risk, we do what we can to get them out. That doesnt necessarily involve the united states military. So i am not going to certainly wouldnt speculate One Way or another what is going to happen after this particular mission ends. But i would not envision a significant Military Role in that effort going forward. Back to what david was asking. Is the u. S. Military if the u. S. Military knew there were improvements to be made such as closing roads and pushing the perimeter back further, why wasnt this discussion engaged in before the attack . Why wasnt the point pressed and why werent these improvements asked for by the taliban . Because you are saying, General Mckenzie was clear he is asking for this now. I tell you, from the very getgo even before we had specific threat assessment, Force Protection was of paramount importance to General Mckenzie, certainly to the secretary and i dont want to speak for the chairman but i think i can for general milley as well in this regard. I can tell you from the very beginning Force Protection was always at the front of everybodys mind. Force protection as you well know in a dynamic environment is something that changes all the time. So as we got more information, we made adjustments to Force Protection measures to try to do the best we could at what we thought were the specific threats we were facing. You heard The General Talk Yesterday about even overwatch in the air. There was a lot of effort being done, which included as The General said, included daily communication with taliban about the nature of the Threat And Sharing with them the appropriate relevant information about what we knew. Now, clearly all of that effort and there was a lot of effort clearly fell short in some way because this attack was able to be perpetrated and we did suffer as well as our afghan friends suffered casualties. We will do the forensics on this, barb and try to figure out what went wrong. Clearly something went wrong but it would be irresponsible if we didnt act immediately to just double down and make sure that we were that we were being as anticipatory as possible. We still believe there are credible and specific threats and we want to make sure were prepared for those. I dont think and im sure you can understand that just by virtue of the fact that we may be taking other steps doesnt mean that they would have necessarily been the proper steps for what we saw yesterday. We have additional information and so what i would tell you is what you are seeing us act on to the degree we can talk about it is based on information that we have. I think i will leave it at that. Have you developed additional information since these attacks, do you still believe something is potentially imminent . I thought General Mckenzie covered it very well with you yesterday. We certainly are prepared and would expect future attempts, absolutely. But i wont get into the specifics of what those are and why were doing what were doing. Additional intelligence since the attack . Again without talking to intelligence, were monitoring these threats very, very specifically virtually in realtime. I think you can understand i wont get into more detail than that. Two questions for general taylor. In the wake of the attacks, have the u. S. Commanders on the ground had improved communication with taliban commanders not only in improving security but potentially in getting siv applicants or afghans through the gate . Secondly in the wake of the attack since isis is also a problem for the taliban, is there potential there to coordinate to actually target isis . So when we say improved communication i just want to i would answer that with were continuing, you know, communication. Improved, i would say every day that is improving because we have more repetitions and are able to continue to have open lines of communication. So the specificity of what is being passed back and forth tactically to allow for a better Security Environment i would say is improving because those repetitions are happening and the understanding of the taliban of what needs to take place is being reinforced. And so i think yes, and then your second question of passing on specifics like what are we looking for here . What is the threat that we need you to look for . Yes, that is absolutely being passed from the commanders on the ground to the taliban commanders to insure, as mr. Kirby said, things like yesterday, we understand what to look for and understand what the threat is to try to prevent it. Specifically to target isis . Those isis threats that could come in. Secondly, there was a secondary explosion later yesterday where u. S. Forces were doing controlled detonations of equipment. Can you talk about the type of equipment that is being destroyed and the wrote Row Grade so you dont have to fly it out so it doesnt fall into the wrong hands, either . The specifics of what type of equipment was destroyed i dont have that. What we have said is that commander has the authority there to destroy equipment that they feel is responsible. So as we talked about controlled detonations, i think that was your specific question. Thats what we call that a controlled detonation that could take place if the commander decided to destroy some type of equipment. I will only add as i mentioned earlier, lives will be the priority, tara, there will be you can expect that there will be other equipment and material things that will not be brought back with us. We will do it in a judicious way. Some stuff will come back with us but for the aircraft that are departing as we get closer we want to prioritize Passenger Seats as much as possible. So you will continue to see things disposed of in a responsible way as we get closer to the end of the mission. I think people would expect us to do that. What is the Departments Assessment of the capability of isisk . Is there a real concern they can use afghanistan to launch attacks against the united states post August 31st . They are a serious terrorist threat. That was brought home to us pretty stark ways yesterday. We take the threat very, very seriously. I dont want to im not going to speculate about future threats. What i will tell you the president has made this clear, the secretary has made it clear to the leadership at the pentagon that we are not going to allow attacks on the homeland to emanate from afghanistan again like they did 20 years ago. We do have over the Horizon Counter Terrorism capability to us to make sure that doesnt happen. I think i would leave it at that. Do you believe the taliban can stand to isisk, can defeat them . I think that the threat from isis is real and nobody wants to see that threat grow. I cannot speak, would not begin to speak for taliban capabilities or taliban intent. Obviously there is significant animosity between these two groups and they dont share interests. But i am not it would be foolish for me to try to predict to the degree what operations the taliban may conduct against isisk. All i can tell you is the direction this department has is to not allow attacks on the homeland to emanate from afghanistan again and we are committed to that. As well as Counter Terrorism Operations elsewhere around the world. The threat has metastasized outside afghanistan to other places where we also have to maintain a Focus And Degree of over the Horizon Counter Terrorism capability. In the back there. Two questions. First can you speak to any Rescue Operations that have happened since the attack . I dont think there has been you mean by rotary . Nothing additional. Second question more for The General. Over the last five days weve seen from 89 to 94 flights leave Kabul But Weve seen somewhere between 12, 5 and 216. The number of Evacuates Nruk waits so much for the flights that remain relatively steady . I will break those in two bins. As you look at the u. S. Flights, have stayed pretty steady, right in those numbers. As other countries are coming in, they are evacuating certain numbers of where they are in their capability or requirement. So i have thif think thats where you have seen some of the differences in the outwar flow. You have to go back to 110,000 total. So as we started just under almost just a few weeks ago at zero to up 110,000 we would see some of those numbers start to come down. Let me go back to the phones. Sam. John, as part of the exit, is it the u. S. Intention to leave a Functioning Airport with radars that work, computers that work . Whats the obligation for what you all leave behind . Airport is functioning, sam. Well need it to continue to function up until the very end. I think The General assumption is as we depart well need to depart from a functional, completely operational airport. It will be operational until we are gone. And as you probably heard Secretary Blinken say the other day were working with the international community and several nations want to contribute to the effort to keep it operational and are willing to work with the taliban to that end. Let them speak to that effort. Taliban operations against isis aside, any future things, do you have any assessment of what Isis Fighters at the prisons that they may have taken action against or killed other than some of the ones that we know about . I cannot. Is that something thats knowable that you guys have sought to find out and cant find out . I dont know. Im happy to take that question but i dont want to raise expectations on our level of the granularity of intelligence we may have gotten from these prison releases. I dont want to overpromise here. Im happy to ask that question but i Cant Promise you a good answer. The 50,000 siv capacity. Can you be them will the capacity beyond new jersey, virginia, texas, and wisconsin. I have think i added some extra facilities here today that i one is in new mexico, an Air Force Base and two in virginia, Quantico And Fort picket. The secretary has been clear that if we need more, because the demand is there, well work with the states and well work with the services to identify potential future u. S. Military installations. Those are the ones were operating from now. Currently the 14step Process to get an siv will there be a change of those processed, overseas and then brought to u. S. Bases for final relocation . I honestly Cant Answer that question. Thats for the State Department. They run the siv process. Not a Department Of Defense equity. May have i ask thank you. Sorry, next time i will bring more. President biden said that also let me President Biden said also and General Mckenzie said yesterday that he had concern with the international partners. Has he discussed about Military Options for international allies, what are the primary options . I Cant Speak for General Mckenzie and the discussions other than what he said yesterday is, you have know, continuing to coordinate with all of our allies and partners that are helping us with this right now is extremely important. The ability to continue to synchronize the airlift that continues to come in and ensuring as timing goes forward it is all well planned together is extremely important. I have to turn it over and back to General Mckenzie for any of those other specific questions. What are the u. S. Special for the allies and international partners. Im sorry . What wishes. From the operational side just like i said earlier continue that support and the work together as we continue this mission forward is extremely important. Thank you. Can you follow up, sir, about something that gordon asked about. Weve been Hearing Reports there have been some attacks by isisk against taliban checkpoints in the city. Are you seeing any evidence of attacks that isisk is attacking the taliban checkpoints . I havent seen those reports. Can you give us any more clarification of the sharing of american Citizens Information as well as Siv Information with the taliban . Reports yesterday the u. S. Officials were sharing that information. I dont think there is Sharing Information as you would say in that question like we are giving information. What information is very important right now is at the Ground Level to insure that as people approach checkpoints that those taliban Checkpoint Leaders have and understand who is coming, what documentation they are supposed to have. Thats really important for us to insure the time that people are not in areas and just, you know, staying there for long periods of time. The commanders on the ground continue to coordinate how do we continue to increase that throughput through checkpoints, through gates, to get on the airport as fast as we can thats very safe to get them there. How many u. S. Troops are still on the ground at hkia and how is the Security Posture at the gate changed . More or fewer troops going in and out of The Gates. More overwatch of the crowd for suspicious activity . As we talked about Troop Numbers and capability. Capability has not changed for us to secure The Gates and be Table Process evacuees and our ability to rapidly turn aircraft as they arrive and get those out. As we talk about Force Protection at the gate, i wont get into the specific ttps that those junior leaders are taking down there other than we continue to learn every day from the day before and we work within all the capabilities we have to insure one, that we can continue people to come in but also stay safe. When you say does that mean you have to switch things up in order to make it more safe . I would say patterns are things that we try not to get into. So i would just tell you as the most simple operational piece there we are always doing things we can to keep us safe and not create patterns. I want to add. We still have active Threat Streams and were taking steps that we believe are appropriate to those streams. And i think i would leave it at that. I want to foot stomp the Boots On The Ground number. The general mentioned in his Opening Statement Today more than 5,000 today. We are not going to get in going forward to a daily count of whats on the ground. Just going forward as we closer to the end of the month and the end of the mission you dont expect daily updates on what exactly how many troops are there at any given moment. When you say there will be an investigation into what happened yesterday . Are we talking about a criminal inquiry with forensics people on the ground and interviewing possible witnesses . Who would be doing that and how do you do that in the middle of a War Zone . I wouldnt characterize it as a criminal investigation but as comprehensive as General Mckenzie needs it to be to find out what happened and what we can learn from it going forward. It will be a very complete, thorough investigation and i will leave it to General Mckenzie to describe for you sort of the architecture what that will be. It is not like we havent sadly had to do this before and we know how to conduct these investigations. I am [inaudible]. American Service Members doing their jobs with sacrificing their lives. Strategic question. Do you think the removal from the afghanistan will lose the u. S. Control in the asia and pacific . Its not about u. S. Control in the indough pacific. It is about protecting our country from threats and challenges that emanate from that part of the world and revitalizing our partnerships to help our partners in the international community do the same. Thats why the Secretarys Trip to the region and the vice president. Were focused there and the opportunities there. It is not about u. S. Control. It is about u. S. Partnership. I know you dont want to speak about the case of the circumstances of the attack but can you tell us if it was at the gate itself or in the middle of the crowd or at the checkpoint . Was it a Guy Walking or in a bus . Can you give us a little detail . First i will start off with details are continuing to be collected. It goes back to the question about continuing to learn as much as we can. As you know, when attack initially starts, you know, you have to fight the fight, then right now were insuring the Respect And Dignity of our wounded and those that were killed in action. But as we look at the details at approximately as we saw yesterday at about 17 48 kabul time there was what we report evidence as a suicideborn vest that was exploded right at or around the gate. We dont know the exact location. But it was right outside in the vicinity of that gate. And then followed by direct fire from an Enemy Position that is not exactly known. It was outside and what we call just north of that Gate Area also. How many assailants killed, the Suicide Bomber and the shooter or how many people of the enemy . Right now what we know there were shooters. Dont know the exact number. But one with the suicide vest. Were any killed by the gunfire . Were asking very detailed questions about the fight that will continue to be collected. I Cant Answer, you know, numbers. I would say that could come out but just knowing the facts, the incredible devastation that happened there, i think we should just leave it there. So might have question trying to follow the one earlier. Yesterday the president said you will hunt down and basically get revenge on the isis attackers yesterday. Can you just explain to The American public who might be wondering hey, we had 2500 droops on the ground. Troops on the ground. What is the situation if we hunt down the isis people . As we look currently ive already i think ive answered that question we have options there right now. And we can insure the commander has the ability to take action as those opportunities present themselves. I wont go into, you know, try to think about the how a decision General Mckenzie would make in future operations. Quick follow up on the gun. Was there more than one gunman. Was that gunman killed . That information is still coming in. What we do know after the fact there was a suicideborn ied right there and gunfire. Thats for sure that we know. My other question would be this. You have 31 american casualties overall. Thats a significant number at one location. What how can we explain why were they concentrated in one area . Was there a Shift Change underway . How is it or were they spread apart in one line and its just how the blast was . You use the line. This answer is not going to be rewarding to you but it goes back to, you know, the commander will figure all those out at the due time, right . Those are the questions that i think are very appropriate and people want to know. What i can tell you right now the commander is continuing to execute the mission and make sure that other forces in there can continue there and insure that those information as a couple of the questions we answered earlier will come at the proper time. I know its been said numerous times that the focus of the mission is to get evacuees and americans out as quickly as possible. For those that were injured during the Attack Yesterday and taken to the local hospital, have there been any talks about setting up security for those individuals . Im Hearing Reports on the ground theyre concerned isis may attack that hospital. So are there any talks to possibly help keep those afghan civilians safe from a potential attack and once they are well enough to travel, how will they get to the ution us . Afghans injured in the attack . What i can report is there were some Afghans Part of that were treated by u. S. And other forces there. Im not fully aware of the reports on the hospitals In Kabul. I do know there were afghans taken to multiple locations In Kabul. Time for a couple more. Mr. Kirby, you said that lives are the priority. My question is straight forward. Should americans expect more u. S. Casualties in the next few days . We dont want to see anymore casualties and why were monitoring the Threat Streams very closely and taking what we believe are the best possible steps to prevent another tragedy like this from happening. The secretary was made that very clear to leadership last night and this morning, that Force Protection will remain a paramount concern as it always does. To add to that there is a bottleneck at Dulles Airport with the u. S. Airlines coming in with refugees at Dulles Airport. Are you aware of this or are refugees being stuck on the tarmac for hours and hours . We are aware of those reports and they have proven accurate. In the last couple of days it is really more an issue for customs and Border Patrol and the process. So i dont want to speak to them or their process. But as we understand it this morning they have worked through the difficulties and we believe that wait time now upon landing is going to get much, much shorter. I would prefer you to my colleagues at customs and Border Patrol to speak to that. Afghan sivs flown out so far or afghans are green cards . How many have been flown out so far . We looked at the number just before coming out. We have just under 7,000 now that are in the states and being processed. And that number will change every day obviously, as it should. Thanks everybody. Well see you again at 3 30 this afternoon, i do apologize for the delay this morning. We were getting updates as we were getting ready to come out to see you. Well do the best we can to be more puntion wall. Harris its about this time every day we get caught up in afghanistan. A couple of headlines and then our first guest. Kind of a nonanswer just a couple of moments ago when admiral kirby, the spokesperson for the pentagon, was asked about President Bidens threat against those who carried out the bombing yesterday. So it really does come into play how they could possibly hunt them down if we are leaving. So they were pressed. He and major general Hank Taylor were pressed in different ways on the same issue. Thats something major that came out of President Bidens News Conference yesterday. The other headline in all of this, because we didnt know this. They wanted it clarified on the record. Was there were not two bombings yesterday. There was only one bombing that did all of that damage and killed all of those people. Not a secondary explosion at the Baron Hotel which is 200 yards away from the Abbey Gate where the initial bombing happened. So The Way it was put was there is a lot of confusion, a lot of things coming together on the ground. They are still investigating that but wanted to make it very clear today as they gather facts and investigate exactly what happened, that there was one explosion. Im certain there will be more to come. You are watching the faulkner focus. Im harris faulkner. David sears is a retired u. S. Navy Seal Commander who served in afghanistan and right away i want to tap into his expertise because we heard a lot there and welcome to the program, david. What i did not hear from all of that was how they will prevent this from happening again. We didnt have knowledge it was coming. We knew the threat was so huge but still couldnt stop it. I dont know youll be able to stop it in the crowds and civilians. Isis, taliban and Haqqani Network have turned to Suicide Bombing. It wasnt initially like this in the early parts of the war. The taliban was against Suicide Bombing and they turned that way. We can protect our Service Members and pull it back. There is a Threat Stream active. The crowds that gather p they come in and detonate isis doesnt care about the afghans or civilians. They kill as many as they can and making a statement. It is very hard to prevent. Harris commander sears, i want to watch something with you. It really comes out of one of the last few questions to the pentagon moments ago about what President Biden said yesterday. Lets watch and ill get your thoughts on it. President biden to those who carried out this attack, as well as anyone who wishes america harm, know this. We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay. Harris critics weighing in on twitter quickly. Former u. S. Attorney andy mccarthy. Flash forward to next week. Were working closely with our new antiamerican jihadist partners in isisk to hunt down Isis L. Rinse and repeat. Fox Nation Host Lara logan says this. What could be more hollow than biden promising to hunt down those responsible for todays bombings while kneeling at the feet of the taliban and Al Qaeda . Dont let Them Con you. Another user tweeted taliban must be laughing. Your reaction to all of that. I couldnt agree more. Those are hollow words off a teleprompter. I havent forgiven nor forgotten all of my brothers that have been killed overseas. The memorials at arlington that was done by the taliban and we seem to have forgiven and forgotten that and we have negotiations. You want to hunt them down and kill those who have done those atrocities . Get abdul back on the phone and drop a bomb on his head and the rest of the taliban leadership sitting there In Kabul harris im a little confused about something. Weve been on the ground all be it when biden came to office we had 2500 troops there. Many more than that now in the last couple weeks that he put on the ground. We had to have had ground intel. How is it that isisk metastasized, that they could do something like this yesterday . What does that tell us about the taliban . We still dont know and the pentagon was asked moments ago, we still dont know if the taliban aided that or allowed it to happen . It was their Checkpoint Things would have come through. Youre right. Interesting in the Press Conference we dont have any information on the isis prisoners out of bagram. How can you not have any information on that . You should have a list of names of exactly who they were so you know then you track them. They basically got Cell Phones as they were bet let out of prisons and they said converge on kabul. Isisk is having a heyday In Kabul. They need to test some Security Measures but a Suicide Bomber just wreaking havoc can cause a lot of problems. Harris what im reading theyre more organized than we might think. I was reading about the original leader of isisk in 2014 with a pakistani national and that he worked together with isis. They were kind of the franchise, the local franchise and they are certainly organized on the ground now, it is frightening and fascinating to see how they come together. Leon panetta predicts our withdrawal from afghanistan may only be temporary. Lets watch and listen together. Bottom line is our work is not done. Well have to go back in to get isis. Probably have to go back in when Al Qaeda resurrects as they will. They gave Safe Haven to Al Qaeda before and probably do it again. I understand were trying to get our troops out of there but the Bottom Line is we can leave a battlefield but we cant leave the war on terrorism, which still is a threat to our security. Harris that was obamas former Defense Secretary saying all of that. Commander sears, is he right . I think he is. Buflt but i think it will be a long time and metastasize for a while. We have three more years under President Biden, who has said we arent going back. Not doing any of this. Just listening to John Kirby, he took the element of national power off the table to do a lot of these things. So i think you will have to. I think it will become, you know, a flocking of foreign fighters and isis to afghanistan. A lot of Civil War in afghanistan. A lot of competition between taliban, Haqqani Network, afghan resistance. Harris on the ground in afghanistan . Competition among these blood thirsty terrorists. Quickly we keep hearing something from the pentagon over the horizon. Means we can fly there really fast. Well, it takes a lot if youre not nearby or on the ground and President Biden has another decision to make during his presidency and thats about our exit in iraq. Just quickly your thoughts. The over the horizon can be used for sure. We have over the horizon i could launch ballistic missiles from the united states. Do we have something that can respond quickly with Rotary Wing or drones . How do you negotiate places in pakistan . Have they negotiated places up north in uzbekistan or other places to launch from . Theyre not interested in that in the basing. Over the horizon can be very limited in afghanistan, i think. Harris all right. Commander david sears, thank you very much for being with me today. Great to have you in focus. Thanks for having me. Harris some of the tough Questioning Weve been watching comes from our own Jennifer Griffin at the Pentagon Press briefings. She had another tense exchange at the briefing with the Pentagon Press secretary moments ago. How can General Mckenzie say with such certainly the taliban werent involved in the bombing . I know you rely on them for protection around the airport but are you ruling them out being involved because you are so dependent on the taliban right now . I didnt hear General Mckenzie put it that way, jen. In one of the questions he got and i think it was from another reporter, was there a failure . Of course there was a failure somewhere obviously. He even alluded to the fact it could have been a taliban checkpoint. So we have not been certain about that. Harris hum. Didnt feel like a direct answer. Lets check in with Jennifer Griffin. Jennifer, those were tough questions all around today and you pressed on that and the Prisoner Release at bagram. That was our airfield and we handed the prisoners off to the Afghan National Army and then they got out because the taliban let them out. You had a lot of tough stuff. What can you tell us we should take away from that questioning . I think what was interesting, there was another portion of that questioning that we can play in a moment, but what was interesting was the first time ive heard the pentagon say the number of isisk who were at that prison at bagram and at another prison where prisoners were released after the government fell to the taliban. And those prisoners, the numbers of prisoners released of isisk now out there regrouping and attacking u. S. Forces was surprising. Here is what John Kirby said. How many isisk prisoners were left at bagram and are believed to have been released from the prison there and why werent they removed before the u. S. Moved out like someplace like gitmo . I dont know the exact number. Clearly its in the thousands when you consider both prisons because both of them were taken over by the taliban and emptied. But i couldnt give you a precise figure. And as for emptying out remember, we were turning things over to afghan national security forces. That was part of the retrograde processes. They did have responsibility for those prisons and the bases at which the prisons were located and, of course, as the taliban advanced, we didnt see the level of resistance by the afghans to hold some territory. Some bases. And unfortunately those were baifss that the afghans didnt hold. All of those responsibilities were turned over in accordance with the retrograde plan back from april. In essence the release of these prisoners like we saw in iraq when prisoners were released after the u. S. Pulled out in 2011, fueled this insurgency. Just been given a shot of adrenaline, basically. Harris no doubt. I know we have tough video to show people. I want to give everybody to pull small children away from television. What i hear him saying is that the taliban may have better information on what we left behind with regard to afghans who helped us. They got biometric information on them and names. But we dont know exactly who was in the prison at bagram . Am I Misunderstanding what he said there . Its two issues you are touching upon. We know who was at that prison because we were monitoring that prison with our afghan allies before the u. S. Pulled out. So we know who was in the prison and why he could say with certainty that there are thousands of isisk prisoners who have been released. The problem is we dont know where they are now and it would take another 20 years of war to go and find them. Secondly, there is the issue of Sharing Information with the taliban, who by The Way, we continue to hear from the pentagon is isisk is a Breakaway Faction of the taliban. They fight against the taliban as much as they fight against americans. So they are not allies. And so what has happened is that the taliban who we are now dealing with in the government and as head of security In Kabul, we understand that when they took over that base at bagram they also got access to biometric data of afghan allies who worked with The Americans and they are using that to go and hunt those people down. Harris wow. I was talking about earlier the isisk, pakistani national who helped start that and when they broke away and joined isis. It is an interesting story we better keep up on. I gave everybody a little bit of time to get away from this from those who might need to. The next video is graphic. What we learned during the briefing. Video taken right after that attack at Abbey Gate yesterday. What we learned at the briefing that is new, the pentagon corrected the record on the fact there was one Suicide Bomber yesterday, not two. Originally during the day we had been reporting based on information we were receiving from pentagon officials that there were two Suicide Bombers, one Jute Side the Baron Hotel. The second bombing was misinformation from the ground. That happens in situations like this. You can understand. We also understand that at that Abbey Gate there were also gunmen who at least multiple isis gunmen who opened fire on u. S. Forces and most likely on u. S. Forces trying to come to the aid of those who were injured. Harris wow. Jennifer griffin, great continued reporting. Thank you very much. Those images are so hard to see. Well, they are calling this the worst day in President Bidens presidency. Its the worst day of the biden presidency, nora, and the most deadly day for u. S. Service members in afghanistan since August Of 2011 when 30 americans lost their lives when a helicopter was shot down. So this is a very momentous time for this white house. Harris the worst day of the biden presidency. The commanderinchief waiting several hours to address the nation. Then its straight up 5 00 p. M. Eastern i tweeted okay. 20 minutes later okay. And we had to wait again. After 13 u. S. Service members were killed In Kabul, afghanistan yesterday and then in a sometimes heated exchange with our own Fox News Peter doocy the President Of The United States took responsibility but still shifted some blame to trump. Do you bear any responsibility for The Way that things have unfolded in the last two weeks . President biden i bear responsibility for fundamentally all thats happened of late. Here is the deal, you know as well as i do that the former president made a deal with the taliban that he would get all american forces out of afghanistan by may 1. Do you squarely stand by your decision to pull out . President biden yes, i do. Harris at one point he just put his head in his hands as he talked with peter doocy. White House Correspondent Jackie Heinrich is live on the north lawn. A tough day for the whole nation. A tough day for him politically. Absolutely. Well keep hearing about it, too. The president promised yesterday that isis is not going to go unpunished for this. He said he ordered the pentagon to draw up plans to strike their leadership, assets and facilities. Evacuation effort is continuing with just five days left until that Withdrawal Deadline under a current threat, active threat of another attack. The president said he would authorize more troops to complete this mission if that is necessary. But he believes that it can be done The Way it is designed right now. At the last update we were told 5,000 people are waiting within the Airport Perimeter to get out. Yesterday amid the chaos 7,000 were evacuated. Total of 12,000 within 24 hours. There is still as many as 1,000 americans needing evacuation. The president said so far there is no evidence of collusion between Isis And Taliban carrying out that attack but there are lingering questions whether the taliban can be considered reliable partners. General mckenzie acknowledged its possible the Suicide Bomber got through the taliban checkpoints and the president s critics say the decisions that led up to this that put americans in this position are dangerous. Listen to this. When you project weakness from the Oval Office as Joe Biden does, bad guys do bad things and we unfortunately saw that play out today and we lost 13 Brave Americans who served our country. The president acknowledged rescuing the remaining americans and afghan refugees could be dangerous and risky and will depend on more coordination with the taliban. Harris. Harris Jackie Heinrich. Thank you very much. Well wait to see what happens next. Were perched for more Press Briefings that were waiting for. Outnumbered is right after the commercial break. 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