Well have special guests to see how we take it from here. Many of if not all of our engaged staff were not present on the Embassy Compound. They were working remotely given the volatile security situation. Many of them were at home were not at work. I can tell you that we have been able to relocate members of our staff. They were not brought to the Airports Compound with the americans direct hires because they werent at the Embassy Compound by and large that day. Ive been told at the Airport Military has been complaining about bureaucracy from dhs, customs and border patrol, and state to do theful entering a civet, presumably on sivs rather than doing a preliminary vet and letting them board and do that in doha, ramstein or wherever. This is frustrated the military and becoming a road block. Its not just state, primarily with dhs, but with states. So this is the ic, the whole interagency lengthy vet before letting People move on. Can you look into that . Im happy to look into that but i can offer context right now. Lock at where we are in terms of really the metric that matters. The number of People that weve brought to safety over the past 24 hours from 3 00 a. M. To 3 00 a. M. Yesterday to today. You see a story of remarkable progress. 10,400 individuals in that 24 Hour Period alone if you include coalition aircraft, thats 6,000 People. 5,900 People in addition to that. If you look at the sum total, its 37,000 People. That doesnt answer the specific question if more could be moved more quickly. The capacity is exceeding the numbers being loaded we understand. Let me get to that. Those numbers are in the context of an operation just over a week old. It was a week ago that the Airport Compound was secured. This operation was able to begin. When it comes to the siv applicants that we prioritized at this stage are those applicants who have received initial vetting. So the vetting has taken place in recent days, weeks, months in some cases. Clearly this is not happening at the Airport Compound. I know. The larger population who has somehow gotten in to the Airport And Cant be boarded because of bureaucracy that involves the State Department. Im asking a policy question. Beyond the are they armed and do we know who they are or can they prove who they are, do we have to do this Severalday Vet if it is all of these agencies including i. C. It includes intelligence, law enforcement, Counter Terrorism to ensure that we are being faithful to the how and rigorous security standards. When it comes to individuals that may be beyond the Airport Compound, its difficult for me to speak to any specific cases. Broadly speaking, every Department And Agency that has a role in the Vetting Process that includes State Department, includes intelligence community, law enforcement, dhs, dod, were making every effort to complete these steps as quickly as we can. When it comes to the vetting, that vetting will allow us to bring individuals to the united states once its completed and bring additional People out of afghanistan. For People on the Airport Compound in kabul, i understand your question. What i can tell you that were surging resources here there at the department and throughout the administration to see to it that we can speed and accelerated the processes consist about the surging resources doesnt answer the question. Why not do this at the third country. Surge them there and get them out of kabul where they can have better facilities, sanitation, food, Et Cetera . That vetting by and large is taking place at these third countries. When it comes to sizs, again, all of those that have received instructions to come to the airport have already completed certain stages of the security Vetting Process. So that initial vet on these individuals has been completed. In many cases theyre taken to a third country where they will undergo more Rigorous Setting if it has president yet been completed that is very much the point of the network of Transit Countries and partner countries throughout the middle East And Europe and the rest of the world. 26 countries and four continents. Its a system that will allow us to provide Safe Haven for these individuals before they come to the united states and still need to complete part of that rigorous Vetting Process. Laura . [question inaudible] asked for the number of American Citizens that was evacuated. He indicated he would give that number out. He didnt have it at hand. Do you have that number . I dont have a preside figure to give you in part because that number changes all the time. Just within the past 24 hours again, more than 10,400 People. Were evacuating thousands on thousands of People per day. I dont have that figure to provide right now. What i can tell you is that we are, as you heard secretary blinken say yesterday, we believe there are several thousand americans in afghanistan that would like to leave. What were focused on right now among the many other tasks is being in direct and personal contact with them. This is not about posting something on the website, this is about placing Phone Calls to American Citizens we have reason to believe are in afghanistan and want to leave. Over the weekend, we placed several thousand Phone Calls not only to determine if we reached an American Citizen that wants to leave but to learn more about where that person is, if theyre traveling with family members, how they might assist that American Citizen who seeks to leave. Another question, you were talking a few minutes against about the on going discussions with the taliban. Is that still taking place in doha or has that moved on . Yes, we have multiple channels with the taliban. Its true that the ambassador remains in doha as do some members of his team. Most of the political council has moved to doha. So thats a channel that is on going. We also have several State Department officials on the ground in afghanistan who also already in touch with taliban representatives on the diplomatic and political front. In addition to that, the military has their own channel to discussion tactical and deconfliction issues. Its been said the u. S. Will help afghans to leave even after the date, whenever that will be. How will the united states assure that to afghans that are vulnerable even though the taliban are going doortodoor brutalizing People. These are delicate negotiations. Im wondering how you or the united States Government can give any kind of confidence to afghan People that they will not be left behind . In the first instance, what were doing now is mounting an ambitious and in ways unprecedented Airlift Operation to bring as many individuals from afghanistan to the united states or third countries as a temporary wait point. Again, the progress we made in terms of how many individuals wore able to bring to safety every day i think tells The Story of this department, of the Department Of Defense, our interagency partners throwing everything we is. How is it going to end when the Military Mission Ends . What does not end is our commitment to atrisk afghans. So how do you let me make a couple points. I dont want to delve into hypotheticals when the End Date will be or the details of it might resemble. A couple points. The taliban has agreed and committed to provide and permit Safe Passage. Safe passage, if you listen to their statements, to americans, to third country nationals and to afghans. This is what they said publicly and the message that the united states and our closest allies and partners, more than half of the worlds countries have signed on to in terms of making clear so the taliban that they have a responsibility to provide Safe Passage and well hold them accountable. As with all commitments, were focused on deeds, not words. What matters to us is the followthrough. What matters is the followthrough now, before August 31 and the followthrough after August 31. Let me make another point. The taliban has also said publicly that they want an afghanistan that has a relationship with the rest of the world. They want to ensure that the afghanistan, under a future Afghan Government, is not the pariah that it would become in certain circumstances. The fact is this is not happen without a functioning airport. A functioning state, a functioning economy. A government that has some semblance of a relationship with the rest of the world needs a functioning Commercial Airport. Were in discussions with the taliban on this very front. They have indicated to us that they seek to have a functioning Commercial Airport. So thats our hope and expectation, that theres a functioning Commercial Airport what we know coupled with that is that these guarantees of Safe Passage, the commitments dont have an expiration date. Certainly stands to reason and we will hold the taliban to this, the rest of the world will to as well, that individuals seek to leave after the u. S. Military is gone will have an opportunity to do so. Our commitment doesnt end in that sense. Our commitment to the afghan People wont end in the sense that our humanitarian commitment will remain as well. What commercial airlines would go into an Airport Run by a Terrorist Organization as the u. S. Considers it and the u. N. So what can you tell us about your talks with the taliban, nato, turkey, anybody else about talking over the airport. The u. N. Called for an Air Bridge for humanitarian aid. What can you tell us about that. I cant go into private discussions. I can acknowledge this is a topic of discussion with the taliban, with our allies and with many of our partners. Theres actually agreement between and among all these actors that all of our interests would be served with a functioning airport. Now, commercial flights are one thing. Charter flights are another. As you have seen when it comes to Charter Flights now, they have been able to remove and bring to Safety Thousands upon thousands of individuals. Look, we dont want to get ahead of things. Right now were focused on the Evacuation Operation that the united States Government is running and as long as we will be running as long as were in a position to do so. The point is that the taliban made statements and commitments. The rest of the world has made sent those same clear messages to the taliban. There would seem to be some confluence of interest here. Its something that would be in our interest, in the interest of the taliban that indicated that as well and certainly in the interest of the afghan People to see that outcome fulfilled. Yes, rosalyn. With all due represent, how can this government trust the taliban . Theyre the late nest a long line of actors that will say what sounds appealing to us here in the west and then once the west pulls out by notably its military, these forces do what they feel like doing and the People are left wanting in the best of circumstances. What is the u. S. Prepared to do at this moment to make sure the taliban is not following up on marking homes where afghans that worked with the u. S. Government had been living . That they dont go back and actually kill their People. Seems as if the leaders are willing to say one thing and given a message to their foot soldiers to do what they intend to be doing, which is running the country in their vision, not in one in good standing with the international community. Were not trusting the taliban. This is not about trust. This is about what is in our interests and also what is in the interests of the People of afghanistan. Those two things are aligned. Right now it is a fact that we are dealing with the taliban on these issues to make sure where it is that the united states stands, where it is that the rest of the world stands. This is not about asking permission. This is not about establishing any sort of formal relations. This is about doing all we can to facilitate Safe Passage to ensure that the taliban know that any effort to impede the evacuation of American Citizens, to impede our operations while this this up and running would be met with a swift and severe response. Thats our message. Thats the message to the world of the world. I can tell you that not only the taliban. Its in the interests of every ruling entity the world over to have a functioning economy. To be able to provide for their People, to have a relationship to whatever degree that entails with the rest of the world. We have been very clear and by we the royal we here, the united states with our allies and partners around the world, more than half of the world countries in at least one case, weve been very clear that those things would be difficult if not impossible if the taliban dont live up to their basic commitment. If they deny the rights of their citizens, if they deprive more than half of their population of their basic rights, if they commit the sort of atrociies that weve seen take place in afghanistan over the years. None of that would be foreseeable if they choose that path. So with the international community, we have significant sources of levers. The taliban have an interest as well. If they want any semblance of durability, if they want the tools that they need to be able to administer a country as large, a country as expansive as afghanistan, what the united states and what together we say with our international allies and partners will matter to them in profound ways. Let me follow up. Its interesting that you just said that were not here negotiating with the taliban. Is that a justification for why we have not seen anyone certainly at the Secretarys Level engaging with whoever is their Foreign Minister that you have People that are lower on the Food Chain as it were engaging, talking, cajoling, arguing, whatever verb you want to use with the taliban in order to not give them the sense that somehow theyre more important than they might think that they are . Its not about seeking selfgrandizements. Its a function of the fact that our discussions with the taliban have been operational, tactical, focused largely on our near term operations and our near term goals. Those operations and goals in the first instance are focused on what is going on at the Airport Compound at hkia. That is what we are focused on at the moment. It is true that we have begun with our allies and partners through bilateral dying local and multilateral diplomacy at various levels to begin to have conversations about what the international community would want to see of any future government in afghanistan and to be very clear, about what would be unacceptable to us. We have done that publicly. It is true that over the course of in months the taliban certainly have a good sense of that from private discussions that have taken place in doha. None of this will come as a surprise to them. When it comes to the political outcome, that is something that in the first instance were establishing common expectations, establishing shared concerns, shared goals and shared outcomes. Not with the taliban but with international allies and partners. Knowing that, when we approach the taliban together as a block, as a block of many of the worlds most powerful and influential countries, that we we say will have outsized influence. Its always important what the united states says. Its even more influential when we speak with one voice. A final quick point. When the you say the taliban has made commitments, do they understand that given the u. S. commitment to its citizens and siv applicants and others in that pool that if this operation needs to go beyond August 31, the taliban must allow that to continue . This is a decision that only one person can make. That person is not in this building. That person sits in an office without corners in the White House. President biden will have to decide when this operation will come to a close. I can tell you that is our goal to move as quickly as we can and as efficiently as We Co to bring to safety as many People as we can. I think you are seeing in the metrics in recent days and the past 24 hours that were making good progress on that. Neil were going to continue monitoring this. This is ned price at the State Department. A couple interesting items there. He said this is not about pressing the taliban shortly after saying the taliban has given its word for Safe Mass Single for americans, Friends Of Americans that want to leave the country. That doesnt appear to be the case right now. He also said that were acting with one voice. The fact of the matter is, the british, germans and the french have criticized our Approach And Inability to lead the perimeter around the Kabul Airport that has been set up by the taliban. So theyre not speaking with one voice. He also said these evacuations dont have an expiration date. Parentsly they do with the eyes of the taliban see. By August 31, all u. S. Personnel would be out of the country. A taliban spokesperson saying that that is a red line. That is a fixed date. The answer would be no, quoting the qatar based taliban spokesperson that is doing an interview with Sky News saying that if not, there would be consequences. So what to make of this with Jennifer Griffin at the pentagon in this race against time a little more than eight days away if you accept the taliban at Face Value here. That is a real deadline. What are you hearing, jennifer . The Bottom Line is the u. S. Needs the permission of the taliban to stay. If the u. S. Or the u. K. Wanted to extend the 31st of August Deadline in order to continue evacuations after the country, would you agree to that . No. Why not . This is something that you can say is a red line. President biden announced this 31 Of August we would withdraw all military forces. So if we expend it, that means were extending occupation. Theres no need for that. It will create mistrust between us. If they are intent on renewing the occupation, it will provoke a reaction. Weve seen the public states about their views on August 31. We understand that. The pentagon says in the past 24 hours, 25 c17s, three c130s and 61 Charter Flights have carried 16,000 People out of afghanistan. The gates of the Kabul Airport have been closed at times and now the u. S. Government is telling only americans and those were siv visas to come to the airport. Why not use the pakistanis and the qataris to help bring People out . Right now youre just bringing People out from kabul. Its a choke point. I dont think its a useful expenditure our time the issue with bagram. It was closed down Monday Morning quarterbacking . Im talking about why not look at the situation now. You need air fields to land on to get People out. Were improving our throughput at hamed karzai airport. We think that well be able to continue to try to improve that. That is the goal. Neil, we heard reporters press the State Departments spokesman because theres now reports on the ground that the State Department is being sticklers about whether you have been vetted, whether you filled out the Siv Paperwork. So that 18,000 that cleared out of the airport, theyre now going to have a slower throughput in to the airport to get on the military planes which are landing one per hour and taking off within an hour. Its hard to keep up the pace of what they did if the State Department is trying to vet these People on the ground in kabul. Neil . Neil what youre saying everyone on the planes if the State Department had its way and has had its way, they had proper identification, visas, paperwork, whatever you call it, that allows them to fly out . The State Department says American Citizens, westerners with diplomats and sivs with a visa in hand should come to the Kabul Airport and will be let through the gates that will slow the flow to a trickle unless they waive other requirements and do the vetting in these third counties, the lilly pads that the military planes are taking them to in qatar, germany and elsewhere. Theres Choke Points there as well. So its all difficult. But for those that reached out to us that are in hiding that are telling us that the taliban are knocking on their doors and cowhering with their children and these are People that worked with the americans for years, some of them didnt fill out Siv Paperwork because they thought they would stay and work with the Afghan Government. When that government collapsed, the whole system collapsed. These People do deserve to go because theyll be killed if theyre left behind. Neil so theyre trapped. Theyre trapped. That being saved, the military and the military has been trying to get many of them out and are trying to push the system as much as possible. Weve seen heroic efforts behind the scene. The numbers are great. With the State Department process changing today to require vetting to be done on the ground at the airport in kabul, its going to make it very difficult to keep that pipeline moving. Neil jennifer, thanks for that. Now to Mark Meredith at the White House. The process alone, if its being required to paperwork, will take us well past that August 31 deadline. The administration knows that, right . They are. You can see them set expectations as possible, theyll have to keep troops on the ground longer than August 31. But as the State Department mentioned, theyll realize these will be on going talks with the taliban. They played the clip that they dont want to see troops on the ground. Theres so much Chaos And Confusion on the ground in kabul and elsewhere on what it will take to get People out and when. We heard from the president s adviser about the challenges the administration is facing while the world is watching. This operation is complex, dangerous, fraught with challenges, logistical, human. And produced searing images of pain and desperation. No Operation Lake this from a capitol that has fallen in a Civil War could unmcdonald without though images. The images have shocked People all over the world. The White House rejected the premise that americans are being stranded. They said theyre in contact with People in many different ways. Theres People there, afghan, allies and americans that feel trapped and not able to escape. The administration is facing growing questions about the safety in the region and the threat of Terror Attacks in afghanistan. It wasnt long ago the White House said there wasnt a huge risk of Terror Threats in afghanistan. Now theyre warning about groups known as isis k. Tomorrow the president will meet with g7 leaders and talk about all things afghanistan. The allies ensuring the safety of the afghans. The president reaching out by phone with Boris Johnson of the u. K. The White House gave Us A Reed out of the call and says they plan a call with the partners in managing a Situation And Forge ago common approach. This is an Uphill Battle for the administration and we see things that will change hour by hour. I thought it was interesting the White House making it clear today that theyre also working to ensure the People leaving afghanistan that they may have access to a Covid19 Vaccine before they reach their next destination. Neil . Neil the reality is, you mentioned the Covid19 Vaccine and the one approved by the fda today, thats all the president wanted to talk about when he made remarks on the significance of that, i get that but nothing about afghanistan, not even opportunity to ask him a question about that. Who is deciding that . He said ive spoken on this matter and im done with it or the way the White House is handling this . The less we say the better . We talked about that in our work space. We debated whether or not Temperature President would take questions or not. He did speak yesterday, he talked to reporters yesterday. So for the White House, they want their president s words to stick at a certain point. You brought up a great point. We didnt hear him take questions today. Were expecting the possibility that the pool will get video of him speaking with the g7 leaders tomorrow. You have the State Department, the pentagon and the president s national Security Advisinger talking. Perhaps theyre trying to do this a day at a time. Well see what tomorrow brings. Neil . Neil thanks, mark. The g7 leaders including those in germany and britain and france have been critical of the u. S. Refusal to go beyond the perimeter around the airport. Lets go to general jerry boykin, former undersecretary of defense. General, this strategy of being careful about who we process to get out of the country, they have to have the proper paperwork. I get that. Its slowing things down. Then theres this deadline to get it done by the 31st. 94 the taliban has come along to remind the administration that that is an immovable date. Where is this going . Yeah, you know, first of all, neil, the bureaucracies are historically encumbered by process and procedures. Thats what youre seeing right now in terms of hough things have been slowed down of the bureaucracy. I think its time for the president to find a backbone. To make it very clear to the taliban, to their leadership, to everybody in the taliban, that were not leaving until we get our americans out of there. Theres a price to be paid. You know what . Were embarrassingly weak right now. In the eyes of the world. The eyes of all of our allies and certainly our enemies. We look very weak. If were going to be a super power, we need to exercise that power. We have plenty of it. We need to make it clear to them that were not leaving until we get all of the americans and those afghanis that supported us in the 20 years that weve been on the ground there. Neil general, if you heard Peter Doocy talking to Jen Psaki on the mixed signals coming out of the oval office, this is earlier today. Take a listen. Have a sense that most of the criticism is not of leaving afghanistan. Its the way that he has ordered it to happen. By pulling the troops before getting these americans who are now stranded. Does he have a sense of that . First of all, its irresponsible to say theyre stranded. Theyre not. Were committed to bringing them home. Were in touch via phone, text, email, anyway that i can can reach americans to get them home if they want to return home. Theres no americans stranded is the while houses official position of what is happening in afghanistan . Im calling you out for saying were stranding americans in afghanistan. She did say no americans are stranded. Which is the case, general . What does your gut tell you . Do we have People stranded or not . Just look at the videos coming outs. Look at the videos being sent out to ordinary People that have friends or relatives there. Yeah, we have americans that are being stranded. I wonder what she knows about what she doesnt know as a press secretary. It is beyond me that she would get up there day after day and continue going down this path that americans are unrestricted in their movement to the airport that is not true. That is just simply not true. The evidence the overwhelming that americans are being impeded, from being able to get to the airport. Otherwise you would have several thousand more americans at the airport because i cant imagine an american that wants to stay behind once the american forces pull out of there. Neil you mentioned suffer hundred thousand. Is it your set that at least that many want to leave the country but so far have not . Yeah, i didnt mean to say several hundred thousand. I meant several thousand. That said neil i wasnt doing that to be rude but i heard from a number of other military People that he suspects between american personnel and those friendly to the Afghan Government who supported american personnel that theres 250,000 that want and need to get out. What do you think of that number . I think the number is probably low if you want to know the truth, neil. I suspect that theres a couple million afghanis that would like to get out of there. That said, to your point, he may be very well right in the ballpark of the number of People that would go if we would allow them to do so. So theres is may be a bigger problem the State Department has admitted. They dont know how many americans are there and they dont know how many sivs are there. So i think the problem could be considerably bigger than the White House has been talking about. Neil so general, im doing the rough math in my head here as a Resident Nerd at fox. Lets say its 250,000. Then we are trying to get 5,000, search,000 out per day. Optimistically in 24 hours, maybe you get to 10,000. Conceiaby that would mean 45 to 60 days at a minimum at a rate to now. Well beyond the August 31 deadline. The taliban is saying none debatable and comes consequences if we go beyond. Do you think the taliban mean that or are they just posing that as an early threat and then how do we respond . Yeah, first of all, it is a threat. Its clearly a threat. I dont know how serious the taliban is about this. I think they would try to use that to extract some concessions from us. I dont know what the those concessions would be. Again, it comes back to this issue. First of all, we created in 1977 the delta force. Followed it a few years later by Seal Team 6 followed by the marine corps special operations command. Theyre all created to go rescue hostages, to go rescue People that are being held against their will. It is time to put them on the ground and tell the taliban were going as long as it takes, theyre going until we get everybody that we came to get. That number may change on a daily basis. Then well leave and its all yours. Neil if i interpreted the various press Briefings Today correctly, general and youre better at watching them speak even though youre interpreting it, i got that the idea that the People trying to get out didnt get the paperwork of whatever because they didnt think this day would come. I think it sounds like the president is trying to say, i Cant Control the fact that they werent prepared for this, which seems weird. This has put the administration assessed when in fact the administration didnt even see this day. Neil, i dont im at the point where i dont know whether the administration, particularly the president and certainly his spokesPeople, whether they dont know or whether theyre just being dishonest. We have heard a lot of half truths, weve heard a lot of double Speak And Weve heard some allout lies since this whole thing started. So im at the point where every thing that is said now, im very skeptical of. And i watch frankly the reporting by Fox News to see what Ontheground Picture looks like versus what were hearing from the White House and then i talk to People involved in getting People out right now. Ive got some contacts and networks and People working in there that have gotten People out that are talking to People, that are getting videos and all from People. So i get information from them. The picture is always consistently different than what were hearing out of the White House or the People speaking for the White House. Its really frightening to me that maybe truly the president doesnt know. Just make he doesnt know. I am appalled at what i hear. I think his advisers have let him down on a lot of things here. Thats another story though. Neil yeah, not knowing, something is even worse than lying about it if that were the case. General boykin, thanks very much. I appreciate it. Thank you, neil. Neil all right. Lets go to David Spunt following all of, this theyre vetting the refugees. That we know, david. We do know that if you dont have paperwork, if you dont have something that indicates proof of who you say you are, youre not flying out of kabul. That seems to be the clear indication. That would include thousands that thought that they could get out that now cant. Right . Thats right. The vetting is happening at a rapid clip. The department of state and the Department Of Defense working overtime to vet as many People as possible. A certain group called special visa applicants. They were vetted several months ago when the president announced the troop draw down. Saturday, a plane with afghan refugees landed at Dulles Outside washington d. C. Those of those on the plane will take shelter at the expose center. They agreed to House Afghans as a Layover Stop until they find something a little bit more permanent. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin act investigated the civil Reserve Air Fleet to help transport People once they left afghanistan. These are private airlines. Theyre not landing at Kabul Airport. The airlines participating, american, delta, atlas, omni, hawaiian and united. Vetting is taking place before anyone comes to the united states. Many afghans are being housed at several different military installations. Just added today, the Defense Department announced joint Base Mcguire Dix is taking part there. You have to remember and ill finish with this, the 30 part countries helping out while the vetting takes place. Were taking about great britain, spain, denmark, kazakhstan, kuwait, qatar. Theyre Housing Refugees and evacuees before they come to the united states while that vetting is done because the State Department promises vetting will be complete before they touchdown on american soil. Neil . Thanks, david. I want to flip this argument around. Not about the lack of paperwork and who gets on the flight but who ultimately does have the paperwork and how did they get their paperwork and should be on the flight. That seems to be a 180 from what was raised before. But could nefarious types be slipping through the cracks . Could the wrong People be on those jets, that some are getting out who we might not want getting out . The time for us, for our agency to vet is very short. For a single person, it may takes weeks or months, this is a country at war. We dont know which community the taliban have penetrated. Its going to be a risky challenge at this point. Neil so when theyre going these records the taliban is going doortodoor to check on People that might have been cooperative with the old government, they say that is not happening. You know the back and forth on this. They control who gets through that perimeter as best i understand and thats why the britts and the germans and the french say we will get our own People and friends of our People and the old government. For the time being, sounds like the taliban is clearing People through at least the u. S. Presence that is inside the airport. So theyre calling the shots. Its disheartening to pulled it mildly. Yes. If theres a perimeter, were on the inside. Theyre out the outside. The position the taliban has out there, theyre the ones that are basically combing through those that are coming in. The bigger question has been in my view at least, how did we get here. When we negotiate with the taliban, this administration and the last administration. This administration is overseeing the operation of transfer from afghanistan. Did we not negotiate with the qataris and the afghans and maybe in other places . What would be the scenario . We did not negotiate hand discuss that would be taking care talking about the B Administration now. And the taliban lied and did what they have done . That explains why were so lost . And second question, as we heard from officials from the administration, several level of communications. We have one communication in doha. We have another team in gauchating with the taliban inside afghanistan. All of these levels of communication, were not able to ask for or to impose that this could be the situation that would be comfortable for us to take care of. Thats stunning to me. Thats why were embarking in a day to day, hour by hour tactical changes and we have to cope with what the taliban wants us to do. Neil the taliban has said as you know that this was a red line, the August 31 deadline and theres consequences if we ignored it or tried to run past it. What do they mean . You think they will make good on that threat . Look at our position. Then well understand what the taliban arent doing. We do not want to widen the Security Circle around the airport. Why . That means well push the taliban out. The administration doesnt want to engage the taliban, clash wi deal. And other countries are going with patrols inside the city and other places as well to extract citizens. Were not doing that. That would have the risk of engaging with the taliban and therefore risking the whole deal. So i assume that the deadline with the taliban are putting is serious with our administration. When the taliban say if you dont abide by that date, we will actually take action. That is exactly what the biden administration doesnt want to see. So were facing a huge challenge. We have to go out . That would not be good for us and our allies. If we dont, theres a risk that the taliban would take action. Neil walid, it gets murkier and murkier. A key player after this. Oh are you using liberty Mutuals Coverage Customizer tool . Sorry . Well, since you asked. It finds discounts and policy recommendations, so you only pay for what you need. Limu, youre an animal whos got the Bird Legs now . Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Finding new routes to reach your customers, and new ways for them to reach you. Is what business is all about. Its what the United States Postal Service has always been about. So as your business changes, were changing with it. 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Neil all right, we are minutes away from a briefing on the latest out of afghanistan as congress began looking at what is happening here, what is wrong. My next guest is one of those with lots of questions, congresswoman of New York sits on the house foreign relations committee, thank you very much for joining us. What do you make of what has been transparent transpiring today . And now that the taliban is set, you have to be done by then, what do you think . First of all i will say that just a couple of hours ago the numbers that they released 37,000 individuals have evacuated. We only are seeing that 10 less than 10 percent are American Citizens, and so the very first question i have for the State Department and the Department Of Defense and the joint Chiefs Tomorrow at the foreign Affairs Committee Meeting will be what are we doing to identify where the americans are and when will the administration allow the military to go out and safely transport them as we are seeing countries like france in great britain do . Neil so with the threat of the taliban, do you take them at their word . Or do you think that they are safer here, a date and a time that the administration is agreeing to come and now we were caught off guard dealing with the tumbled, it cant be changed. Speak of what they are sensing is a weak administration, President Biden has shown weakness throughout this entire road deal. They went in it without having a Strategy Or Plan and everyone around the world sees it, even the allies have been condemning him in the lack of action and appropriate response that they have taken to make sure that we evacuate individuals, so the president needs to be strong here and to make clear to the taliban that we will be here until we get every American Citizen out period. And do not allow these individuals to be running the show there. He needs to make it clear that we are going to get every american and leave none behind, thats exactly what we will be pressing them to do. And again, less than 10 right now of those being evacuated by the united states of america are u. S. Citizens. There are a lot of questions here as to how they are going to go forward and make sure that today get these american safely to the airport so they can evacuate and be repatriated. Neil obviously you dont take the taliban out there word, with very good reason as you said in the Passing Administration has made a mistake doing that. You look back may be negotiating with the taliban as a prior administration did in a pursuit 2 out of there by may was a mistake . The pictures with Secretary Of State pompeo. In retrospect it was a mistake . I think that the previous administration was a lot drunker and a lot more leverage, in this case they are sensing weakness and thats really what the problem is. Its a weakness as well as the lack of plan that they went into this. Do not take out are American Citizens first, to not make sure that you fortify the special immigrant Visa Process first. Neil you think the former Administration Wouldve done that . Or this Will Cascade so quickly No Matter who was president the same Thing Wouldve happened . Based on what you hear from the previous administration officials they had that plan in place to take the American Citizens out. They would not have close the airbase and what to make sure that to the equipment was removed. Neil you would have more airports, at least one other airport to exit the country . Exactly, take out citizens first before withdrawing the remaining troops. The fact that we have more troops they are today then when we did when President Biden announced a withdrawal, more than double the number of troops is shows he would a failure been. Well now we do because of the personnel bringing in to get our People out, but we technically would have had fewer under the prior administration. But we can go back, im just wondering how you think it ends up . Well, i think look, from here on, the only thing we can do is mitigate the damage. We need to make sure that we let the Special Forces go out and get American Citizens, certainly my office, we have been taking calls from individuals. We were able to successfully get a family evacuated, a mother with three small children from brooklyn, New York, and other members of congress, senators are doing the same to feed the information to the State Department to help evacuate everyone. And then We Could ask questions about where the failure happen and at what level. And that is why we are in a situation at this moment. Thank you very, very much. Monitoring that as well as major commercial airlines, southwest, united, and delta getting People out there fast. That will do it, here comes the five. Dana hello, everyone, dana perino, along with kennedy, jessica tarlov, jesse watters, and tyrus. Its 5 00 in New York city, and this is the five. Let me be clear, the evacuation of thousands of People from kabul will be hard and painful No Matter when it started, when we began. There is no way to evacuate this many People without Pain And Loss and heartbreaking images that you see in television, but we have a Long Way To Go and a