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Helicopters have rescued 169 americans from a hotel outside the airport in kabul. This comes hours after President Biden claimed americans were not having issues getting through the taliban blockade. We have no indication that they havent been able to get in kabul through the airport. We have made an agreement with the taliban thus far. Shannon other parts of the biden administration have conceded that does not line up with the reality for some on the ground, as the White House admits it is unsure how many americans are in need of evacuation from afghanistan, and the pentagon corrects the commander in chief on his claims that Al Qaeda is gone, and the u. S. Will be able to monitor the Terror Threat to americans from afar. Look, lets put this thing in perspective here. What interest do we have in afghanistan at this point, with Al Qaeda gone . Al qaeda is a presence, as well as isis, in afghanistan. And we have talked about that for quite some time. We do not believe it is exorbitantly high, but we dont have an exact figure. The threat from terrorism has metastasized. Theres a greater danger from isis and Al Qaeda and all these affiliates in other countries, by far, then there is from afghanistan. And we are going to retain the rising capability that they were going to come back to be able t, surgically removed. Our ability, our intelligence gathering ability in afghanistan isnt what it used to be because we arent there, with the same numbers that we used to be. Shannon President Biden also pushing back against claims that americas credibility has been diminished. Just days after british prime Minister Boris Johnson admitted the u. S. Pullout left u. K. And nato forces with no choice but to do the same. Leading a Member Of Parliament to call the commander in chief shameful. I have seen no question of our credibility from our allies around the world to. The fact of the matter is, i have not seen that. Matter of fact, the exact opposite. Shannon all this just a day after the e. U. Foreign Policy Chief called the fall of to a catastrophe a nightmare. Adding that it exposed a failure of intelligence in transatlantic cooperation. Meanwhile, on the ground in kabul, Harrowing Images show the desperation that led to this moment, when a u. S. Marine lifted afghan baby over a barbed Wire Wall to safety. There are Reports Tonight that the taliban are going Door To door and more in their search for u. S. Allies. Correspondent Benjamin Hall Reports Tonight from london. The Kabul Airport is totally surrounded. Thousands of desperate people are begging to get in and begging for help, but it is overwhelmed. You can see there is a lot of people here. We need we need support, we all need support. This is what we should deserve after serving for a while. Im calling on everyone. Im bleeding all over. All the while, the taliban are strengthening theirs grip on the city. More checkpoints are being reported, more doortodoor searches for people who worked for The Americans. Reports some have been hanged and fear is growing. I served my life, over ten years, over a decade, i served with the u. S. Government. Now, what happens to my family . I served basically onethird of my life with the u. S. Government, and now i am not even able to save my own family, my own blood. For now, the u. S. Is still relying on the taliban to provide safe passage to the airport. But with no idea how many americans are left in afghanistan, no idea how long the deal with the taliban will last, things are looking bleak. The taliban will kill you because you are a woman and working on tv. Outside kabul, there is more totality and oppression. Reports indicate the militants are summarily executing people who helped u. S. Forces, but despite this, a remarkable scene, Brave Afghans in several cities still defiantly carried afghan flag through The Streets. The Taliban Open Fire and killed some of them, too. There are so many people looking to the u. S. For help right now, looking for help in getting out. There are also people we have spoken to who are resigned to their fate. No one really knows what the future there will look like. No one knows what the next few days will look like. Shannon . Shannon benjamin, thank you very much. As the u. S. Scrambles to evacuate americans and afghans who directly assisted us out of afghanistan, communities here are at home are preparing to resettle up to 30,000 of those afghans who helped our soldiers and are fortunate enough to escape the taliban. Hundreds of them will wind up initially in texas, where senior Correspondent Casey Stegall picks up a story for us tonight. Good evening, casey. Shannon, on friday, the pentagon says it is now preparing to how was up to 22,000 afghan refugees here in the united states and, specifically, for now, at three different military installations. Fort bliss, which is located in el paso, these sites will be cod into temporary housing units, much like we have seen before with migrants along the southern border. Fort mccoy is the second, thats in wisconsin. It stands ready to take in refugees, those lucky enough to have made it out of the war torn country. In all, 19 different communities around the country will take people in under special visas, with thousands of Charity Organizations helping to work out the logistics and funding. People go back and forth of whose fault this is, and weve got 20 years of blame to go around for our entire country and the citizenry of it of what happened in afghanistan. So right now, we need to figure out how to get people out. Hundreds began arriving earlier this week in the washington, d. C. , area virginia, maryland, on direct flights from kabul, Fort Lee In Virginia Is E Third that will take people in. Authorities say that many of these refugees worked as contractors and assisted the u. S. Military on the ground in afghanistan. So taking care of them, of course, is very important. Still unknown, the cost of all of this. As we said, right now, many different charitable groups are stepping up. Shannon . Shannon yeah, casey, grateful for them. Thank you very much. President biden facing a firestorm of criticism from both sides of the Aisle Tonight following his remarks friday afternoon. White House Correspondent Kevin corke is breaking down the ongoing political Fallout Tonight as it grows. Good evening, kevin. Growing indeed. Good evening, shannon. It could should come as no surprise that republicans in washington are sharpening their political knives as the president , they say, stumbles his way through a completely avoidable tragedy in afghanistan. But now, even some senior democrats are pointing fingers, calling the biden Exit Strategy a catastrophe and accusing him of negligence. If we leave one american behind, if we dont get all those afghanistan afghans who stepped up to the plate and helped us out, then Joe Biden, in my view, has committed a high crime and misdemeanor under the constitution and should be impeached. Impeached, that is the threat from South Carolina g. O. P. Senator lindsey graham, following the inexplicable debacle continuing to unfold in afghanistan. Sparked, he says, by the biden administrations poorly planned Exit Strategy from the wartorn country. And graham is not alone in wanting to raise the political stakes come as a growing list of republicans are now adding their voices to the chorus of criticism, believing that what biden has done is worthy of the ultimate political sanction, if not outright removal from office. On the House Side of the capital, the foreign Affairs Committee is sharpening its gaze upon secretary of state antony blinken, writing to condemn in the strongest terms the departments senior Leadership S Dereliction of duty regarding afghanistan. Under your direction, the letter continues, Contingency Planning by the State Department has been woefully inadequate, and now, we are seeing the tragic results. Worse yet for the administration, it is not just republicans who are sounding the alarm. New jersey Democrat Senator Bob Menendez says he is disappointed that the biden administration clearly did not accurately assess the implications of a rapid u. S. Withdrawal. Congressman jim Landon Bennett of rhode island, who has served on the house armed Services Committee since the war began in 2001, accused the biden administration of negligence, in an oped in Foreign Policy magazine, writing, the consequences of our decision to abandon afghanistan are now on full display for the world to see. It didnt have to be this way. Pointed call them, indeed. Now the host foreign Relations Committee is also demanding to answers from Secretary Blinken and Defense Secretary austin. They are requesting responses to a series of queries by september the 3rd. Meanwhile, we finally saw Vice President Kamala Harris today, standing next to her boss for the first time since the crisis began, and while she didnt say a word about the situation in afghanistan then, tonight at a stopover in Alaska En Route To Vietnam and singapore, she offered this. We couldnt have a higher priority right now, and in particular, my priority is making sure that we safely evacuate american citizens, afghans who worked with us, afghans at risk, including women and children, and that is one of our highest, if not the highest priority right now, and a big area of focus for me. Vice president harris speaking there at elmendorf. Now this is a crisis the administration continues to struggle to solve, and as those pictures probably tell you, a Vice President increasingly looking like someone who would like to steer clear of the fallout, shannon. Shannon well, she has that trip ahead, and the optics of being in vietnam at this point, some are questioning the wisdom of that, but no changes we are told of her plan. We will see you in just a minute or so much better news, kevin. Indeed. See you soon. Shannon thank you so much. Lets get some perspective on where we are tonight and this crisis from a former Navy Seal who served two tours in afghanistan, now a wisconsin republican, congressional candidate, Derrick Van orden, and Fox News Contributor pastor robert jeffress, thank you both for being with us. You are welcome. Thank you shannon. Shannon start with a democratic member of congress was also a veteran, congressman seth moulton, about the situation on the ground and what we sent our Military Back into. So, when the president and the secretary of defense claim they are giving every resource necessary and available to this effort, thats just not true, because you have marine commanders on the ground saying they are stretched thin, they need more troops. Shannon so, Derrick Van, you know the situation on e ground, how the taliban operate and think, this is not a partisan issue, we have congressmen across the spectrum saying we need to do more on the ground. What do we do now . They may be equipping the troops with everything they need but one thing they will not be able to equip them with is leadership. The biden administration has abjectly failed the united states military, The American citizens in afghanistan, our coalition of allies, and the folks that worked with us in the conflict that i was therefore for two different tours. What we need to do now is buckle down, the entire national security council, as far as im concerned, should resign, and we need to get on with the business, which is saving american lives, immediately. Shannon thats a priority, and among those lives, as well in afghanistan, there are christians. Not many of them, but there is a community there, and this is what we are hearing about them. We are hearing from reliable sources that the taliban demands peoples phones, and if they find a downloaded bible on your device, they will kill you immediately. That was said he says it is incredibly dangerous right now for afghans to have anything christian on their phones. The taliban have spies and informants everywhere. Pastor, it is overwhelming to watch this, and we know there are people for many reasons we now fear for their lives, including the christian community there. Thats right, shannon, and look to him as an american, i care about every one of our citizens being rescued, but as a christian pastor, i care about the eight or 9,000 afghan christians who are facing extermination by the taliban. As you mentioned, the talibans going going Door To door asking specifically if christians are residing in that home. And look, i will let the geopolitical Experts Debate whether or not we should have stayed in afghanistan or even been there to begin with, but what i can say with absolute authority is we have a moral obligation, not only to rescue our citizens, yes, but also to do everything we can to protect these afghan christians. Look, i know that America Cant do everything in the world, but we can do some things, and protecting the small group of believers is a basic value of america, and its something we need and should do. Shannon well, and derrick, im talking with military folks on the ground who are desperately trying to get people out. They say they are aware of arrangements and in contact with people that are civilian flights, private flights and charters that will come in and get people. They cannot get Air Clearance from the State Department. They say the administration seems to be completely disorganized on this, but there are private actors who want to go in and help as much as they possibly can. Any way to resolve that at this point, other than publicly to the State Department, what are you doing . Right now, i think that is a secondary priority. Everything that Joe Biden said in that Press Conference was inaccurate, misinformed, or a lie. The secretary of defense that americans are being beaten in The Street and that was on acceptable. Getting the aircraft has to be secondary priority, priority to getting the human beings, The Americans, our allies, and those that worked with us, onto the airfield itself, because that is at least a partially secured safe area for everybody. Shannon and pastor, i would love to get a final word from you on what you say to people out there who are really struggling watching these images, feeling powerless to help these people. We have Covid Rampaging across the country and the world continually. People are really struggling and feeling pretty overwhelmed at this point. Yeah, today we sponsored on our radio station, a day of hope for the people youre talking about who are struggling, and look, shannon, as christians, we do not need to be fatalistic but we need to be realistic. Jesus was realistic, he said in the world youre going to have pestilence another word for pandemic and wars, that is the world as it is, but thank god it is not the world as it will always be, the hope of christianity for 2,000 years has been that jesus is coming back again to rid this world once and for all of evil. But until then, there will be no lasting peace until the prince of peace has come. He is coming, shannon. That is the hope of every afghan tonight who is a christian, its the hope of every christian in the world tonight. Shannon yeah, and prayers across all kinds of denominational Mines Tonight were people there in afghanistan. He mentioned the earthquakes, haiti, they are getting lost in the headlines, and those suffering around the world from covid and so many other things and persecutions. We should all be praying for each other. Pastor, thank you. Derrick, thank you for your service and thank you for your time tonight. Yes, maam. Thank you shannon. Shannon back here at home, domestic crime Concerns Front and Center Tonight as we head into another hot summer weekend. City officials in minneapolis take another step forward in their push to potentially abolish the Police Department, at least as they know it now. Correspondent Charles Watson is working tonights crime beat. Good evening, charles. Hi, shannon. As Crime Spikes and some of the nations largest cities, Minneapolis Tonight is one step closer to deciding whether or not it will abolish the citys Police Department. The Minneapolis City council approving language to be included in a November Ballot measure that will ask voters to decide whether or not to replace the Police Department with a new department of public safety, even as violent crime surges in the city. Mayor Jacob Frey attempted and failed to veto language in the Ballot Measure saying it didnt go far enough in explaining to voters of the of their decisions, such as the removal of minimum Police Staffing requirements. Protesters have called on lawmakers to defund the Police Force following the death of George Floyd at the hands of convicted former Minneapolis Police officer derek chauvin. Here is what the mayor had to say about the issue on thursday. My position has not moved an inch. We need to root out systemic racism in our Police Department. We need a full on culture shift. We need additional accountability. We need to change the way we do policing so that we have safety beyond policing. But to the question as to whether i was going to defund and get rid of police, my answer was no. In the meantime, new York City, the nypd is grappling with an increase in ce of their own. The department saying it is looking for these guys captured on video violently attacking a man. Police say as many as five of the unknown suspects are seen on multiple occasions this month attacking Innocent Bystanders and robbing them of their property in queens. Over to chicago, where police are hunting down the people responsible for shooting a 9yearold in broad daylight. The boy was shot in the forearm and was taken to the hospital in stable condition. 822yearold man was also shot in the leg. His condition is unknown. And these are just some of the latest incidents contributing to a wave of crime in some of the nations big cities, where homicides and Gun Assaults on average are up 16 and 5 respectively, according to the council on criminal justice. And shannon, americans are worried, according to the latest Fox News poll, 81 of americans say they are concerned about the violent crime they are seeing. Shannon, back to you. Shannon charles, thank you so much. All right, remember those Creepy Humanoid Robot thingies . 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I think that is a human being. Anyway, get ready, because we all know how this show ends. The companys as a prototype might be ready in about a year. You are not going to convince me that is not a human. If that is a robot, we are in big trouble, but i think that was just a demonstration. K, has this ever happened to you . It is a hot summer day, jump in the car come huge mistake, the seats are basically on fire. Belinda from Texas Michael Jackson moves. Moving onto an adorable duo, quite an online hit with their playful friendship. The owner says they have been inseparable since one was a little tiny puppy. They are entertaining each other. Speaking of puppies, got another pair of friends melting the intersect with their beautiful relationship. A little doggy getting a Piggyback Ride from his big brother. We love to see the fowl and canine gettogethers here. It is off the chart, we love it. We want to see videos and ones you think arer. Let us know, shannonbream or foxnewsnight. Breaking tonight, the Supreme Court getting involved in a fight over border policy. A Federal Court had ordered the biden administration to reinstate these remain in Mexico Policy used for asylumseekers at the border under the trump administration, so the doj now under the biden administration went to the Supreme Court with an Emergency Request to stop that. Tonight, and the nations highest court in a short time ago put that lower Court Ruling on hold, but only until late tuesday night, Justice Alito issued to Mikes Order indicating the pause was needed in order to let the fullcourt weigh in and for the other sidey 5 00 p. M. On tuesday. If youre still with us, you know if it is the Supreme Court i will keep you updated. With more than 400,000 migrants at our southern border and just the last two months, Government Officials and Health Care professionals in South Texas are grappling with Covid Followup from record numbers. Fox news medical Contributor Dr. Marc siegel has one doctors story tonight. Good evening, doctor. Good evening, shannon. Dr. Lopez, Medical Director at Mcallen Medical Center at our southern border, often doesnt go home at the end of a 12hour shift. Her hospital is overwhelmed with unvaccinated patients. Probably about ten days ago, things got a little bit hectic, and we are making plans. We are working extra shifts. We are planning to get help soon from the state because the cases are increasing very much, fast. We deal with suffering, we deal with pain, we deal with loss, but this is my first time that i see people suffering alone. Dr. Lopez says many of her fellow staff have gotten sick, and some come along with their patients, have died. As a group, they mourn, but still, they shoulder on, anxious, worried, but dedicated. I had one that had trauma, and really, when he came into the hospital, he was positive with covid. Transfer to the icu, shared with me the feeling that he was coming here to try to have a better life, now in a bed alone, knowing how his family was in his country. For dr. Lopez and others, this is not a political story, it is a humanitarian crisis. She says some catholic charities are Building Shelters to quarantine immigrants to protect local citizens, but the shelters are filling up quickly, and critics say that we should be sending care to the other side of the border, rather than bringing people over here that we cant take care of. Shannon . Shannon that is another strategy. Dr. Siegel, thank you for the update. All right, i want to bring you in because we need some uplifting news, some lighter fare. This is our midnight snack chat. We are going to start calling at that because we always end up talking about food. The weekend is coming. Maybe sweet out there for folks to sell bring something, getting together with family. Now we have the debate, Cake Or Pie . You have some interesting polling numbers, there is actually a debate about this. There really is, and in fact i think you could argue, shannon, this is something that has been brewing, or bacon, if you will, for years. Cake or pie . Let me take you back to 2012, a Pbs Poll showed 55 of american preferred pie over cake. Fast forward a few years to 2015, buzzfeed in a survey said it was down to 52s48 pie. Since then in the years after that, its been back and forth, Neck And Neck from a fork versus port so pie versus cake, who you got . Shannon i am definitely a cake pan. They sell their cake by a slice. You dont even have to commit to the whole cake, it feels less guilty. What about you . I love cake and cupcakes, but i am a pie guy. I always have been. I dont know why. When i was growing up, my mom basically made Devils Food Cake all the time, thats all i ever had, and then i got pie when ive got to be an adult, oh, shannon whats this . Exactly. Most popular pies, apple, pumpkin, cherry, peak on, he lined, banana cream, lemon meringue, blueberry, oreo, and chocolate mousse. Most popular cakes are, wait for it, cheesecake, molten chocolate, red velvet, boston cream, Devils Food thats the one my mom always made ice cream cake, gooey butter cake, king cake chiffon, and coconut cake. So, your Favorite Pie and your favorite cake are. Shannon i dont like the fruity stuff, i am a florida girl, i am going with Key Lime Pie for my pie. For cake, i like the traditional vanilla with butter cream. For pie, Cherry Pie guy, always have been. Love Apple Pie too so cant complain, and i actually really. My move to miami, i was like, key line, i fell in love. As for cake, i hate to say it, i am a creature of habit, Devils Food Cake it is. Shannon mom gets all the credit for that. Red velvet is good, too. Shannon we will say all of the above. Pretty much. Shannon kevin, good news coming up. Great stuff tonight. I will see you later. Shannon thank you, kevin. All right, no vaccine, no medical care . Is it ethical for doctors or hospitals to turn you away if you dont have a shot . For some patients, that is now reality. Plenty to unpack with bioethicist charles comeau c. He is next. Shannon Vaccine Mandates coming for students in both Los Angeles and new York City tonight. Correspondent Matt Finn updating the latest fights over vaccines for young americans. Good evening, matt. Shannon, from here in California To Texas and new york, there is a growing list of Mask And Vaccine mandates for students of all ages. In Los Angeles, Culver City School District is believed to become the first in the state to require all students 12 years and older to be vaccinated. The superintendent says parents, teachers, and staff overwhelmingly support the move. I want to promise to that family that in the afternoon when this child is returning to you, we have done everything we could have done to return this child safely to you. I kind of agree with it. You dont know if someone has it or not, at this point. We all look normal, you can be asymptomatic. I dont agree with it. It should be a choice. California has ordered all K12 Student and employee is be vaccinated or take coronavirus tests weekly. Making employees get vaccinated with no options for test. In new York City, mayor De Blasio tweeting Friday Morning Covid19 Vaccination will be required for all students and staff participating in highrisk, public school, athletics this year. That includes volleyball, wrestling, lacrosse, rugby, bowling. 1217 group, highest Growth Rate in vaccination in any Age Group in new York City. Almost 300,000 kids in that range and got in the vaccination. Is making a big difference. U. S. Education secretary telling asked high School Football students there will be pop up clinics and students need to be reminded of what is at stake if they do not do their part. Vaccine is a tool we have to keep you safe and do keep you on that field so you can take that race. More mandates could be on the way as the fda is expected to give the Pfizer Vaccine full approval on monday and also begin to approve the vaccine for children under 12. The latest in texas, the Supreme Court there blocked governor abbotts attempt to block Mask Mandates in his state. The Texas Attorney General is expected to appeal that decision, shannon. Shannon all right, Matt Finn, thank you for the update. A doctor in alabama refusing to treat patients who wont get the covid vaccine. As hospitals in the Dallas Area say they may soon consider Vaccination Status in assigning Icu Beds. And a Washington State Hospital is reportedly kicking people waiting for Organ Transplants off the list if they dont get the job. Weighty issues of Conscience And Morality to talk about tonight, so lets bring in bioethicist, theologian, and author of losing our dignity, charlie camosy. Good to have you back. Hey, shannon. Shannon this Alabama Doctor sending this letter out to his patients and picked up by the outlets in alabama, says i cannot and will not force anyone to take the vaccine but i also cannot continue to watch my patients suffer and die from an eminently preventable disease. Therefore, as of october 1st, 2021, i will no longer see patients who have not been vaccinated against covid19. What do you make of it, charlie . Well, you are the lawyer, you know the law better than i do, but i have to say, this sounds like something close to a civil rights violation. I might disagree. In fact, i kind of agree with doctor, people should get vaccinated, but the unvaccinated have the same rights and equal protection under the law as everyone else. Speaking as a medical ethicist, it is one thing to base something like transplants on who is most likely to survive, but this dr. Is doing social engineering. He is basically saying i want this outcome in society, one i happen to agree with, and then refusing to treat patients under his care as a result of that . That violates every medical. Shannon lets move on to some of these others. Dallas, you flagged this and talked about this as well, Vaccination Status may be considered to get Icu Beds in Dallas Area hospitals if the covid spread worsens. They say of North Texas starts running out of Icu Beds, doctors may have to consider coronavirus Vaccination Status as a factor in who gets Priority Care appeared with the vaccinated potentially being prioritized for treatment on the assumption that they are more likely to survive. How does that Argument Sit with you as an ethicist . If you put a bunch of things together like age and health, you know, Vaccination Status is one of several things, many things to put together. Then i can understand that. But lets face it, whats going on in todays world, shannon, there is a political aspect to all of this. There is an ideological aspect to all of this. And here is something we need to throw into the mix 40 , only 40 of africanamericans in the united states have covid vaccinated. Only 45 of latinos are vaccinated. Who is disproportionately affected when we say you dont have access to the Health Care system if you are unvaccinated. This proportionately, minorities. Where is the racial justice on this . We talk about it and other issues, important, but it is absent, crickets, when it comes to this set of issues, and we ought to start talking about it. Shannon yeah, here in new York City, where if you do not have a vexing passport, you cant go into restaurants, entertainment venues, gyms, that kind of thing, and a, the racial disparity they are, as well, you have to worry about arguments about disparate impact even if the underlying, you know, policy has a political and not racist role, if it then translates into something that does more disproportionately impact minorities, youve got to have that conversation. I think you are right. Okay, lets go to washington state, where this is the one that has gotten so much attention now because there hospitals there that is apparently turning people away who were on the Transplant List if they dont get the shot. One of the play should know my patients, who says he is being denied a liver transplant, was on Tucker Carlson Tonight this week, and heres what he said about this. Ive seen it happen all around the united states the last few months, but now here it is, you know, in my kitchen, this is it, you basically have a hill to die on, you choose the vaccine and get to see another day, or you dont, and you die. Shannon click final word from you, charlie. Did you think you would be here . You asked me a couple of years before before i wrote losing our dignity, no. Knowing our Health Care system much better after doing this research, i have to say so much is directed at producing the best outcome, which is important, but fundamental rights, including racial justice, need to come first. Shannon losing our dignity is a fantastic read, so if you are struggling with this or have more questions, you should read at. Charlie, thanks for being with us. Thanks, shannon. Shannon a whale of a tail hitting the court room. What is so dangerous about these Ocean Cuties . You see the smiles, you see the Brand Name. Well, Night Court is next. Someone once told me, that i should get used to people staring. So i did. Its okay, you can stare. When youre a twotime gold medalist, it comes with the territory. [swords clashing] had enough . No. Arthritis. Here. New aspercreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. Dont thank them too soon. Kick pain in the aspercreme. Shannon a whimsical whale is at the center of tonights Night Court. Closing Retailer Vineyard vines is taking Lake Shirts to court for copyright and infringement. Lake Shirt Whale Design sold in Maine And Florida is strikingly similar to their whale logo. To similar, they argue. Lets bring in former u. S. Attorney Harry Litman and washington, d. C. , Trial Attorney joe cammarata. Thank you both for being with us. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Shannon people know, exhibit a, the two whale designs, you can see whether you think they are too similar or not, but lets take you to the complaint. It says such mimicry is likely to lead to confusion as to the source, sponsorship, or other commercial and affiliation of the clothing with Vineyard Vines and its clothing goods. Harry . That has to be the question. These guys, shannon, are on Whale Watch all over the country. They are repeat players. They sue everybody, including here, the suit they dropped against a retailer that got scared and said all right, we wont sell them anymore, but the question is, its not our these cute whales, do they have some similarities, it is what a Consumer Go in and be confused and think, oh, this is a vineyard Vines Shirt. They wouldnt. Its different. If one has a spout, they look different, they dont say Vineyard Vines under it, and that is why they should lose, but i dont even think they are doing it to win or lose it but to sort of terrorize and make people back down, but with a legal question is, what a consumer actually think it is their shirt . I dont think so. Shannon to that point, exhibit c, this is talking about the perceived differences in these two, it says the alleged imitation has a circle around if i come up with the Brand Name whale has more of a crescentshaped eyelid. The body shapes dont match, has a protruding bump on its forehead and a second pump happily to its tail. One bump to the face with a smooth transition to be tail. The lips and smirk differ, too. Joe . They say no matter how thin you make a pancake, theres always another side to it, so im glad i get another side. The fact they have been awarded trademark protection, which allows them to determine how their market is presented to the public. And they are not terrorizing anybody when somebody creates a whale that is similar. The suggestion that, well, you know, this whale, the second whale, has got water coming out of its head or doesnt have an eyebrow, thats not the issue the issue is not identical, is one identical to the other . The issue is whether or not a public can be confused. When you think of a whale, you think of the whimsical whale of Vineyard Vines. You dont think of something else. And so, under the law, they have quite a protection that they are afforded to clampdown on people that are encroaching upon their legally protected mark. Shannon yeah, and there were essentially two defendants here. There was one, which was a store that was carrying these tshirts that are made by the maker, so the store stopped selling them, as you mention, that means they are out and it is just down to the tshirt maker. They are the only wants still on the hook. Tunnel arguments to harry and then Joe Then joe. Joe has it right, but the legal standard, would someone really be confused not is this a whimsical whale, but would somebody think, oh, that is a vineyard Vines Shirt . No way. Shannon joe . Look, when you see an alligator, you think of low cost or izod. When you see a man on a horse, you think of polo, and you see a whale, you think of Vineyard Vines. It is just that simple. It can create some confusion, and if it can likely create some sort confusion, they win, and i think they will win here. Shannon we will track the case and let folks know. In the meantime, harry and joe come have a great weekend. Thank you both. Hey, thank you both. Shannon good news before wed say good night, 17yearold breaking the internet after turning his Brothers Bus stop into a showstopper. Elaborate costumes, six months straight, going off to college. As Word Spread about this oh, no, not that outfit. He has been transforming it, everything has been buzz buzz lightyear, chewbacca was a favorite, and the kids love it, but of course, it is embarrassing. Kevin, the siblings love to embarrass each other. That is definitely embarrassing. Leave it at that. Im going to take you to Beautiful Arizona for this good news good night, shannon, this is where we find an 8monthold goat. Actually freed by the Arizona Humane Society during a twoday rescue operation. The animal actually fell into an Irrigation Pipe in west phoenix. A Homeowner Herd the goats cry coming from underground. They used a snake camera, pvc pipes, shovels, a sledgehammer, they rescued the goat. Thank you, humane society. Shannon Baby Goats are so cute, but i cant believe i spent two days doing that. Im glad he is out and thanks to all of the humans who held. Thank you, kevin. Have a wonderful weekend. Thats it from new york. Im shannon bream. vo how do you know when youve found your team . Whether youre winning, or just doing your best. When youre on the lanes, theyre right behind you. Reunite with your team. Go bowling. 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