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Afghanistan is rapidly falling under the control of the very same people who sponsored those attacks again us 20 years ago. The taliban is retaking afghanistan, freeing our enemies from prison, putting our friends to death. Confronted a challenging afghanistan he has failed to protect the american people from this challenge, biden administration has just failed in the execution of its own plan. It looks like now they are trying to get folks out. This reminds me of previous administrations. This is one of the worst Foreign Policy Disasters in the history of the united states, were getting nothing from President Biden and a shoulder shrugging from his cabinet. Soon well seen the taliban flag flying. Trey Joe Biden is not first or only president who wanted to leave afghanistan, just because something is bipartisan does not mean it is right. For 20 years, america invested most precious resource we have in afghanistan, the lives of american Sons And Daughters, you also invested more than a trillion dollars of your taxpayer money, it is fair for you to ask, what was the return on afghanistan . Afghan president fled, our embassy is run out of an airport and women and children are being slaughtered. We dont know what will happen to the afghan translators who helped us. But you can believe it will be barbaric. The taliban did not wait for the united states to fully withdraw before they began taking over parts of the country, the american retreat from afghanistan has been put on temporarily pause as the u. S. Deployed 6,000 troops to try to stem the tide of carnage. One thing appears certain atthispoint, when and if the united states leaves, the group that aided and abetted the attack on our nation 20 years ago isa alive and is alive and well and poised to take control for the latest on this situation in afghanistan we begin with Fox News foreign. Tonight taliban is in control of afghanistan, we confirmed that afghan president Ashraf Ghani fled today. As fighters made their way into the capital of kabul, scenes across today eerie You Saw they were coordinating with americans who are still at this hour evacuated u. S. Personnel and allies from afghanistan. Trying to ensure that everyone can get out safely, but, other concerning scenes, We Saw at bagram airbase. The taliban went to a prison there and freed all of their fellow taliban fighters, alongside them Al Qaeda insurgents some of the most dangerous in afghanistan are free, certainly of concern. For the Afghan Civilian Population and the people who helped united States Everyone past 20 year over the past 20 years, there are a number of questions about how we got here, u. S. Intelligence committee said at said that taliban could Takeover Kabul ending up at 72 hours. Trey. Trey live for us in the mideast thank you, trey. Joining me now, congressman Jeff Van drew of new jersey, former State Department Spokesperson senior adviser to the how did we get to this point in afghanistan . My god, it one of the darkest most embarrassing days in our country, a embarrass am for the biden administration. Every day i wake up as a congressman, you wonder what is next, with this administration it is failure after failure. Honest to god, i cannot believe im saying this, it is time for this president to resign. It is time for this Vice President to resign. Time for the Senate President and speak speaker to resign. We cant keep doing this, it has been about 7 months, this is the worst of all. The real topper, people we trusted and worked with there will be killed, they will be tortured and hurt, women will be raped, people will be beheaded, this is was not an Exit Strategy that made any since, no way had it have been conditional, in no way should it have been done. The president promised us that it would not happen like this, it would not be like vietnam, promised there would not be people trying to taken away off of the top of our embassy and just his words a short period time ago not one word made sense. None of it was right. We cant keep doing this. We have to get we have to be america that weve known and love. This is not that america. Trey morgan, there were republicans that also wanted to withdraw from afghanistan. So for those republicans that thought it was a good idea, was the explanation that mission was accomplished or failed or abandoned . A good point. I think were looking at happening here, look and say if you want to leave afghanistan or stay with a small presence, we could have that Policy Debate all day, The One thing that confounds me is the lack of planning, the Lack Offing Cusion by this administration. General Jack Keane talked about why did we do this during the height of fighting season, why do see seemingly have no plan in place for Tens Of Thousands of people, Tens Of Thousands, who helped us over the last 20 years. I also hear reports we have duel citizens dual citizens, american citizens who are still there it looks kayed on the is and mismanaged. This administration looks caught by surprise. They told us No Evacuation was happening during the brief, they either lied about what was happening this weekend or they are caught off guard, they should not be. Because congressman knows from committees he sits on you know you are briefed by the intelligence community. So, we need answers, we need to know why they are caught off guard or why this was so ill prepared. We need to know why we have Tens Of Thousands appreciably people who help potentially people who helped us, who are Sitting Ducks there. Trey congressman we have a little bit of time, do we know how the republican withdraw plan would have been different . I think that President Trump had an expedited withdrawal plan, not even waiting until September 11, how would it be different . Believe me it would have been different, the difference is you could withdraw but you have to make sure that you are connected with what is going on on the ground, you have proper intelligence, none of which this administration had. And make it clear to the taliban, if they do anything, that is in anyway going to harm the world around them, basically, that they are going to be the reign of hell will come down on them. You cannot deal instead were begging the taliban. Were dealing out of weakness, begging them, please, you dont do that, you need to have a strong america. Strang military, and deal with them in a way that makes sense, we never would have done this. Trey thank you congressman, thank you morgan look forward to having you back. My next next is well versed on issue of afghanistan, she long argued that biden Administration Plan to withdraw from afghanistan would be handing a quote, Propaganda Tool to the taliban, joining me now dana perino. Honored to be here. Trey i know this is an issue close to you. And you are one of the more wellrespected voices in the country, for those republicans who wanted to do it, i recall a republican to invited taliban to camp david. Where we doing that because we would we already won in Afghanistan Or Laughter on gave up . Why withdraw . I think that is true. People were ready to go. Remember when 9 11 first happened and the united states invaded afghanistan with our allies. And the reason was to deny a Safe Haven for Al Qaeda. We did that. And under Obama Administration they killed Bin Laden, what happened in the past, when we have dealt with terrorism, and then lift, what fills the vacuum . The terrorists return. You saw that in terms of iraq, with isis. We have to go back in. We United Nations that the taliban is still connected to Al Qaeda. Now when it came to republicans trying to figure out how do we get to the place we get to what americans want, a vast man 5 f americans who said time to withdraw. But what about followup question. Do you want to leave afghanistan in a way that provides a Safe Haven for terrorists again . In the waive a chaotic national embarrassment of shame it looks like we handed over military equipment. And leave the people behind that helped us, even though we promised them they would be taken care of. I think that biden administration soothes themselves by saying polls, saying that americans wanted to leave afghanistan but wait until you see the polls about how they are not taking national security serious enough. This is inept. This is a diplomatic failure, the democrats run the Committee Schedule right now. If they didnt, you could imagine there would be hearings this week, to figure out how did we get is so wrong. Trey i would be shocked if we live in a country where a lot of people did not want to end a war. I dont like war. Which is why we should think carefully before going into it. But you put your finger on it. We lost thousands of american Sons And Daughters, you look into the eyes of those parents. Is our response, we fulfilled our mission, or we just misjudged It And we never should have been there. I get that people want to leave. I get that. The question is what are you leaving behind . It seems that taliban is as strong as it ever was. Remember also this is what President Biden said today, first, you have not seen the president , and Communication Team at White House said it will be a few days. And im thinking this crisis is unfolding right now. And you will lot everyone else do the communicating . That is an interesting choice. The president , he blamed President Trump yesterday. And you could reasonable people could agree that decision to talk with the taliban and make the deal with the taliban was a bad decision, but you didnt have to implement the bad decision if that is what you thought it was. Instead you say, my hands are tied, there is nothing i could do, leave afghanistan and keep going to the point you never know what is going be in an administration that all of a sudden will blow up in your face. This is not seen by the Obama Administration but almost biden administration but almost shocking to say it was not seen by them. Trey given this is happening in afghanistan, starting with blood of our Sons And Daughters and trillions of dollars, i think the images will force President Biden to address the nation, what should his message be. I would say, the buck stops with me. This did not go down well. I am sorry for the people that helped us, that we were not able to get out in time. This is what im going to do going forward, and less 3 or 4 options. All things he will say may not be popular, they will not poll well, what is your show about . Your show is about, what is the right thing to do. If you do the right thing, the popularity of it will come eventually. They should not worry about, that they should not blame President Trump, that is unacceptable. They can blame him for everything else but this, they cannot blame President Trump. Trey thank you for joining us. Still ahead reaction to reports that taliban is freeing Al Qaeda prisoners from afghanistan. And afghanistan Veteran Joey jones is joining us next on Sunday Night in america. To ur a tow, her claim paid. And even her Grandpas Dog tags back. Get a quote. Seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. New parodontax active Gum Repair kills Plaque Bacteria at the Gum Line to help keep the Gum Seal tight. New parodontax active Gum Repair toothpaste. Priceline will partner with even more vegas hotels to turn their unsold rooms into amazing deals. Delegates, how do you vote . cheering yes, yyyyes, yes. That is freaky. Applause Trey Welcome back to Sunday Night in america as we watch in realtime american withdraw from afghanistan, supreme Court Justice Hugo black once said, great nations, like great Men And Women should keep their word. That makes sense, your word, your trustworthiness is about all you have. People, Friend And Foe alike, need to be able to rely on your word. And there are times in life we may wish we had not committed to do something, there are times in life we wish we promised to to something different. And there are times in life our commitment costs more time, more money than we initially believed. People of character, nations of character, still keep their word. I want you as best you can to go back to the morning of September 11, 2001. Where were you when you heard . What were you doing when you first saw the images . What did you think when you heard or saw those images . What was your reaction when the skyline of a great american city began to collapse . When the pentagon was targeted . When the signs and symbols of the worlds greatest democracy were attacked. Trey what did you think of for your children, grandchildren, country away of life . We are remarkable in our ability to come together and the aftermath of tragedy. Were also remarkable in our ability to move on. It has been 20 years. 20 years without any attack that anyway resembles what happened to us on 9 11, 20 years is a long time. But not too long for us to keep our word. We went into afghanistan because of the role that country played in 9 11. And the threat it posed to our security and that of our allies, weve been largely successful. It has been 20 years, Life Chasse changed life has changed for sure. We have adapted, great nations adapt. Great people adapt. But there is a difference between adapting and forgetting. The question is not whether america has changed or adapted or learned to live with a new form of normal. The question is have we kept our word. Have we kept our word to the world that if you attack america, we will follow you to the ends of the earth to weed out punishment. No matter how long. Have we kept our record that never again would an attack like this happen on or soil. And that we will lead the way in eradicating the new form of warfare and our word to our friends and our foes . Have we kept our word to those who took a chance on us . To those afghans who supported and aided our calls to the afghan women living in oppression with no equality and no due process, to the afghan women who believed us when he Wesaid America is a country of freedom, Light And Opportunity to the afghan children, what will they think when they think of america . Will they think of the country hurrying to evacuate its own people from an embassy it could no longer protect . Those are important questions to ask. Have we kept our word to our friends and our foes . The most important question of all to ask is this have we kept our word to ourselves, for the thousands of Men And Women who gave their lives because we sent them to afghanistan. We owe them an answer, was It A accomplished, failed or abandoned. Have we kept our word . Whether we see the images of greatest nation in the world scurrying to escape a nation, leaving the blood of our Sons And Daughters and a trillion dollars in aid. Have we kept our word . When we hear of Lastditch Effort to save the lives of those afghans who risk their lives for us as translaters . Have we kept our word . America has not even left afghanistan yet. And olden me, The One we score we swore to defeat is on the march for all lives lost, body injuries, and money spent there, did we keep our word . Did we or did we just grow weary and abandon It All . Many americans and american politicians are tired of fighting, i understand that. War is hard, which is why you should be very careful before you begin to wage it. The enemy is not weary, the enemy is not tired of fighting, the enemy has not been vanquished. If we could look into the eyes of the parents who lost Sons And Daughters in afghanistan, tell them honestly, we fulfilled our mission, then bring the troops home. If we can look into eyes or eyepatches of those injured, say, mission accomplished thing bring the troops home, if you think that afghan Men And Women who helped america are safe and will be safe when we leave, then bring the troops home. If were leaving afghanistan safer and freer and better for afghan women and girls, then bring our troops home. If not, great nations keep their word. Even and especially whether it s hard to do so, joining me now joy jones, Retired Marine Corps bomb tech, thank you for your service. Thank you. Trey so what is the answer . As you look at your fellow soldiers, parents of those who lost Sons And Daughters, is the answer that we accomplished or failed or got tired of fighting . I think depending what what time over last 20 years you ask that question, maybe All Of The Above, today my frustration is with the question asked of what is next. It is a fore gone conclusion that taliban will be controlling what we know of as afghanistan, probably in next couple days, but what is next . What parameters does this President Set for us Moving Forward. I had a chance to talk with hoffman, i asked him, how important was having a present in afghanistan to Human Intelligence, and how important was Human Intelligence to keeping our country safe. I could tell by look on his face that former Cia Chief believed it was paramount. What bothered me through the Trumpadministration And Biden n, losing dozens of friends in a year. President biden would tell you, that he had no choice. Either this or send Tens Of Thousands of more troops, it did not seem that way a year ago, i would love for him to explain why that was his choice, right now Id Love to hear anything from him. I could point a finger all day, i have 9 of them left to point. But the point here, more than whose fault it is, what is the plan Moving Forward . I have a 12yearold son that i dont want to be sending to war in 6 years, that feels like a possibility today. Trey joey, you put your finger on it the question not a political question. It is an american question. The decision to send people to war should be the most solemn decision you make. It should not be made lightly, you have to know why you are sending them, and then to be able to identify when you have won or when the mission has been accomplished. As it relates to afghanistan, it took no time for the taliban to reemerge there. You are left to wonder, i thank you for your service. For those of us what did not serve we left to wonder, what is End Result . The End Result was a lot of men came home that i had a chance to walk in front of and take a bomb apart for. I told myself that in 2010, when i deployed to afghanistan. We were as confused in 2010 when President Obama sent us. We were confused them. For chief had to troops into battle rather than send them. Thank you. 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Austin goolsbee from university of Chicago Booth School of business. Former adviser to President Obama they are joining me now, welcome to you. Thank you. Trey im going to ask you the same question, ill start with you professor, it is more of an american question. Im curious, President S and president ial candidates from both parties say we should leave afghanistan. Are we leaving because we accomplished the mission . We failed to accomplish the mission . Were we grew weary of the mission. Seems like All Of The Above in a way. The we started what the mission was drifted overtime. Started we want to get Bin Laden and stop the taliban from sponsors and hosting terrorist organizations, we succeeded at that. Over 20 Year President , we spent over 2 Trillion transforming that mission to something else. Now it does seem like people got weary of it. You see what the Afghan Military was able to do after 20 years of investment from the united states. Trey Chairman Chaffetz . I think it is a little bit of All Of The Above. Initially to root out the terrorists and degrade the capability of terrorist to regroup and hit the u. S. Again. I think that Men And Women who served, should look back at that proudly, we have not been hit to the degree as we did on 9 11, you dont get to count all victories when nothing happens could but Men And Women, Special Forces who rooted it out, killed a lot of people, took out the bad guys, so we could live safe in united states of america should hold their heads a. What is happening right now is a disgrace. Avoidable, i took a position in 2009 to bring our troops home, but we never defined victory, that was victory. What is our end point. If you dont define victory, get this. When you have an incompetent leader by Joe Biden, you leave the weapons and money they run amuck in a couple days time. Trey professor, trillion dollars sounds like a lot of money to well watching, what would that Return On Investment be, accepting both parties spent that money. What is the Return On Investment. Well, the initial Return On Investment, i thought of the high. Supported initial attack in afghanistan and the war. Since then, if the Afghan Military will fall apart, the second we leave, it would have been nicer to do that 10 years ago and save 1 Trillion that we spent since then. It seems that Return On Investment we made in the afghanistan military has not been there at all. Trey all right jason, quick answer, would a republican withdrawal from afghanistan have looked different and how . Yes. You dont leave them all weapons and money, the special Inspector General for afghan Recap Vehicle Reconstructiontion estimated less than half of American Money Put to fight got to afghanistan, the rest of the fraught with fraud. Making a bunch of people lift. 52 Executive Quarterly reports that Inspector General said there was a problem, it was never righted, never fixed. Trey thank you. Well be right back. Out of 3. I dont know anybody whos had it. Your uncle had shingles. You mean that nasty red rash . And donna next door had it for weeks. Yeah, but theres nothing you can do about it. Camera man actually, shingles can be prevented. Shingles can be whaaaat . Camera man prevented. You can get vaccinated. Baby, call the doctor. Camera man hey you can also get it from your pharmacist 50 years or older . Get vaccinated for shingles now. Introducing xfinity rewards. Our very own way of thanking you just for being with us. Enjoy rewards like Movie Night specials. Xfinity mobile benefits. And exclusive experiences, like the chance to win tickets to see watch what happens live. Hey its me. The longer youve been with us. The more rewards you can get. Like sharpening your Cooking Skills with a top chef. Join for free on the Xfinity App and watch all the rewards float in. Our thanks. Your rewards. Trey as we watch the worsening situation in afghanistan, we reminded September 11 is approaching, 20 anniversary of the Terrorist Attacks on our country, Terry Estrada lost her husband tom. On the attack of world trade center. She is joining me now, Terry Welcome to you and we continue to express our condolences to you. Thank you very much, thank you for having me. Trey i want to initially get your reaction to the report that taliban is freeing not just Al Qaeda members but also isis, prisoners as they storm across the country that we have been in for 20 years. There is a lot of emotions right now. Watching this on tv like Everyone Circumstance i am sad, i am mad, i am scared for the afghani people, and i am terrified for the world that jihadists are being unleashed. I know first hand how devastating a Terrorist Attack can be, i have Survivor Friends that witnessed unspeakable horrors, i have been saying for last 20 years if we could hold financiers responsible for the attacks for these terrorist organizations, it we could hole them responsible we could deter future Terrorist Attacks by diminishing the funds, i started this quest in 2002, i stood on a Stage Shouldertoshoulder with bravest 9 11 Family Members and survivors that i have known, with leadership of ron, a South Carolina native. We announced to world we would hold the financiers accountable and bankrupt terrorism, i believed if we could do that then, we could do it now, we can stem the flow of money and make a difference on terrorism. 15 years later in a courtroom that is what happened. You fast forward, were in a courtroom, were sitting there against the kingdom of saudi arabia, for the role they played in financing September 11. We served a Soup Anna on Subpoen Department of justice, they have been horrible in their response, they are unresponsive. They have overly abused classification process, and rubberstamped State Secrets on numerous of documents, we went to congress, congress has been on our side and a staunch supporter for truth, we asked if they would support 9 11 transparency act, less then two weeks ago, i stood with senators and committees, all to announce the legislation. Which will mandate, a comprehensive declassification of all of the documents they refused to give us. And State Secrets. Now i need a strong president. To stand with the 9 11 families, i need a strong president to say, put this bill on my desk, lets sign it, lets get the truth out there. And lets learn about how 9 11 happened. And how it was financed and how the cells existed in our country. And how flourished and supported the 19 hijackers, lets get tough on terrorism and have real serious consequences for their actions. Trey well Candidate Biden promised a fresh look, well see if President Biden keeps his word. And i hope he meets with you. You have earned right to meet with the president , particularly in light of what he said when he wanted to become the president. I wish you all the best, thank you for being with us. Thank you so much, thank you for letting us have our voice, i appreciate it thank you. Trey yes yes, maam. Sunday night in america. E created for officers. But as weve evolved with the military, weve grown to serve all whove honorably served. No matter their rank, or when they were in. A marine just out of basic, or a petty officer from 73. And even his kids. And their kids. Usaa is made for all whove honorably served and their families. Are we still exclusive . Absolutely. And thats exactly why you should join. Its an important time to save. With priceline, you can get up to 60 off amazing hotels. And when you get a big deal. You feel like a big deal. Priceline. 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This is a devastating scene were seeing, it feels like one of most significant Foreign Policy failures in american history, i think that people who have that feeling of the shades of saigon. Are not e exaggerating. You Cant Help but feel our military brass, intelligence community, others they failed the people who sacrificed so much and american taxpayers who spent so much to support those We Saw as future of afghanistan, who again looking like unfortunately will be subjugated under the radicals. Trey it seemed like such a preventsible disaster, plenty of republicans wanted to withdraw from afghanistan too. But there has to be a responsible withdrawal. And did you see plans that you think could have avoided what were see and watching tonight . I think we could have done is send a message, if we were going to leave, we would not leave with a taliban that was strengthened or have access to resources, material, weapons and more we were leaving behind, that kind of message of incompetence, It Also depressed our friends and sends a message, promises we made to them about protecting those who helped us were able to get out in time, that is a level of betrayal that only creates more distrust for america in the world. I just think that this is a message that china in particular has to be very happy with us sending and the fact that the president is still on vacation, has not addressed us about this historic events. It is more depressing, it sends a message of frailty, a look of leadership, and someone who may not be up for our current Foreign Policy challenges in the world. Trey a Lot Of Dc Media Iseses Re how do you blame trump for this. One thing you see right now, trey, is media always most mindful of their own representations, more than necessarily the truth with a lot of the reporting, a lot of Dc Media Types feel they have been head, they were meant to look like fools, they put themselves out there in support of Biden Agenda and advancing idea that the people there were professionals. Were seeing right now really puts light to that and has a lot of them feeling embarrassed. I think will see criticism from media for President Biden on this, it is just indefensible in so man ways. Trey ben thank you for joining us on a Sunday Night, i know you will have more to say on this and other things when you host, fox across america on Fox News Radio tomorrow at noon. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, very much. Trey thank you for spending part of your Sunday Night with us. I hope you have a great week ahead, until next week you can find us online. Good night from South Carolina, life, Liberty And Levin is up next. Mark hello america, i am mark levin, this is life, Liberty And Levin, we have great guests, but before, we go to them, i was thinking about this before the show. Do you realize we have less Liberty Today than we did before the revolutionary war. Look at taxation

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