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As afghans flee. [speaking in native tongue] it was just two days ago that the Pentagon Press Secretary said this kabul is not, right now, in an imminent threat environment. President biden remains at Camp David. Earlier on Fox News sunday former Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo calling out biden administration. It looks like biden administration has just failed in its execution of its own plan. It looks like theyre now trying to get folks out. This reminds me of previous administrations have allowed em was pass says to be overrun, it starts to feel this way. It feels like this is a bit of panic having to reinsert soldiers to get them out. We reduced our forces in a minutely, and the taliban didnt announce on capitals. Trey yingst live in the Middle East with the latest on whats happening In Kabul. Hi, trey. Reporter good afternoon. We know the biden administration has authorized an additional 1,000 u. S. Troops to head to kabul and assist with this evacuation not only of u. S. Personnel, but also u. S. Allies. There are major concerns that the interpreters and the transa laters, those to who help translators, those who helped in afghanistan over the past 20 years, will be left behind. There is a Visa Program in place by the american government, but its moving extremely, extremely slow, and we are seeing these images tonight out of kabul at the airport. Of thousands of civilians running onto the tarmac trying to get on civilian planes. According to nato though, right now all civilian flights are stopped, only u. S. Military aircraft are allowed to take off from the airport In Kabul, and the other scenes really playing out as a worse Case Scenario for the biden administration. You saw those images,sal ya zero a rah inside the president ial palace as the taliban poke to the world saying they were dethe Claireing Victory after months of Fighting Afghan Security Forces and this week and a half of a major offensive in the North And South of the country taking over areas of land and provincial capitals. There is just one provincial capital standing out just north of kabul. Other than that, the taliban has taken over the entirety the of afghanistan, and we do know ghaani left the Country Today over fears of his safety. Its anyones guess what comes after this, but the taliban within the coming hours certainly going to start implementing Sharia Law and their new vision for the people of afghanistan, vastly different from what people have seen over the past several years. Many worry it will be a very dark chapter for the afghan people. Reporter trey, i have one quick question, a followup on that runway. You have hundreds of Embassy Staffers there right now. It seems like a desperate situation. How long can those who mean us no Harm Hold on to that one airstrip . Reporter well, look, its a very difficult situation for American Forces because the top brass in the military have made very clear to the taliban in doha that where a lot of leadership has had ongoing conversations with the united states and others that if there were any attacks on these troops helping to evacuate american personnel and allies, there would be a very strong response by the u. S. Military, but now that you have the taliban operating throughout the city of kabul, it creates its very similar the what we saw back during the islamic state when the u. S. Led coalition was trying to liberate cities like mosul. You have fighters now within city limits, so its not just as simple as launching airstrikes. They would have to have tactical strikes against different areas around the cities, and we are hearing reports theres been gunfire but no major attacks on the airport yet. Certainly those american personnel and American Forces hoping it stays like that throughout the night. Trey, we will continue to watch. Thank you so much. Trey yingst with excellent reporting continuing. Thank you, trey. And, joey, to bring you into this discussion, to bring everyone in, joey, i do want to begin with you because this has been changing hour to hour, and its getting worse and worse with every report we hear from trey. Its a frightening situation, isnt it . Yeah, i think i saw Trey Report earlier today, and the question ive had for the last several days is how could the president get this so wrong . How could the president assure us days or weeks ago this would not happen . How did our president or our Department Of Defense get that wrong . Thats a question i want to know. And, ben, underlying all of this really and all of the reporting that were seeing and everything that were seeing displayed for the world, also underneath it all is the question over Americas Credibility on the World Teenage teenage world stage. You know, i think unfortunately so much of the discussion around what was going the happen in afghanistan has been framed as just one of two options. Option a, were there forever. Option b, something like this. I think that there was a third option, one that i think President Trump certainly was considering which was essentially an exit that would have been an example of using our american military power, and the taking american material and Resources Pa paid for by with american taxpayers to be used. They certainly would not have wanted to see the flood of former Isis Fighters and the like fleeing away from bagram going scotfree, able to exact all sorts of punishment on us and our allies in the region. And i think of course this type of scene has to embolden americas enemies and particularly china in terms of their feeling about what this administration is willing to do. As soon as the taliban started to engage in this type of offensive, i think it was incumbent upon america to respond in force, to use targeted missiles and to go after the different areas and taliban camps we know exist to make clear we were not going to enable the taliban to run roughshod over Afghan Forces that have fought alongside us and that have been the source of enormous training and have been the target of enormous training and enormous resources over past 20 years. Instead this is really the worst of all options, and its going to lead to, i believe, a considerable encroachment on americas interests around the world, particularly as it relates to china. If i were in taiwan right now, i would not be feeling very confident about americas promises. Emily, it is 5 08 on Sunday Evening at Camp David where the president is in his vacation spot, and he has yet to speak to the american people. I think its just another step in a what has been, frankly, a letdown by our Commander In Chief both in his statements is and his messaging and his decisions, all of these are coupled together. So we know, for example, as we talk about our concerns for the future, among them the fate of all of these afghan translators that worked so closely with united states forces that we invested our resources in for so long who are now left stranded. But we have the opportunity for these last months to take care of them on such a stronger level. That visa system, as was mentioned earlier by trey, that is so slowly to be implementedded, going so slowly right now. We have had a stronger, faster reaction from the u. K. With their afghan translators than we have from the united states. That is at the very least such a shame. And so, unfortunately, im honestly not surprised at this point, at this weak, frankly, position exhibited by our Commander In Chief. But i hope as we discuss this dark chapter my concerns lay as well with the afghan people. Thats a country of about 38 million. We know that iran and pakistan host most of the refugees from that country. We know as we heard earlier in the intro the fear of Sharia Law being implemented. The speed of which those 34 provinces fell, seven minutes ago there were more than two and now only one is left to fall to the hands of the taliban, and i worry about all of Those Hundreds Of Thousands of individuals who worked with the afghan government, who worked Hand In hand with us who might at this point be facing a dire, if at all future. Right now we want to play a portion of what Secretary Of State Antony Blinken said this morning on cnn regarding the u. S. Exit Strategy. Take a listen. Like it or not, there was agreement that forces come out on may 1st. Had we not begun that process, we would have been back at war with the taliban with. Finish. Im talking about whether or not this exit was done properly, taking out all the service members before those americans and those afghan translators could get out. Thats what im talking about. And then you have to send people back in. I think it shows that we were prepared, the president was prepared for every Con Tin general city as this moved forward. We had those forces on hand, and they were able to deploy very quickly, again, to make sure that we could move out safely and securely as the situation on the ground changed. And we are going to continue this discussion after the break as coverage of the taliban i can actually go ahead and we can continue this conversation. My apologies. So, joey, i do want to begin with you because what stuck out to me there is where he talks about how our Exit Strategy and what were seeing shows that we were prepared. They want to claim that the sky is green and the grass is blue. The main thing is as the situation on the ground changes, and ill go back to you. I dont mean to Beat A Dead Horse here. To the extent of we have a season where the taliban is most organized and conducting most of its operations. I mean, in a lot of ways this war has been a proxy war with act stand. Many of their pakistan. Many of their leaders reside in pakistan when its not the fighting season. I want to know what the president was thinking and how he did not know this could be a possible outcome, and really what i want to know is are the people advising him, were the generals saying a different too often . We referenced many articles this praised President Biden for bucking the generals. Id like to know what he bucked and what those generals were saying. Emily, we will get to your thoughts on all of this right after the break because coverage of the Taliban Takeover Of Afghanistan continues next. For mac. 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Senator Lindsey Graham saying, quote, President Bidens Statement Yesterday saying it is up to the afghan security forces to fight shows a complete disconnect as to the Threats America faces. Are we comfortable Outsourcing American National Security to the taliban . Joey, i want to circle back to something you were saying right before the break which is, you know, how could President Biden get this so wrong. My question to you is this, if youre an american observing what just happened in terms of the promises from President Biden over the past couple of months and whats happening in front of you today, you have to come to one of two conclusions. Or he was lying to you about the way things were going. Do you believe that one of those were more true than the other and if the first one does he is a reasonable case to be made that our Intel Community and everybody advising him on this that they have rosecolored glasses about how long this process would take. I dont think he understand it understood on the information he was getting but he is just so wrong he believed his instinct was more important than the information he was getting. This is a man in a position of leadership for decades but the second in command eight years of this war. He oversaw the deadliest years in afghanistan. How did he not understand the dynamics . It is not a Calculation Problem but completely not understanding the true dynamics and then understanding when to do this and if you are an american sitting at home how do you trust anything else how you trust what about the border or i just dont know how you can lie to the american people and lie on the scale. I want to get your reaction to these comments from former secretary Mike Pompeo who talks about the Trump Administration sending a small one a strong message to the taliban. We made it abundantly clear to the work they put on the ground we would not allow them to just walk away we would crush them. And to me it is a critical part because pompeo says we would hold them to account if we didnt ask them to do in the biden administration doesnt seem to care about that. Exactly in the commanderinchief seems to blame the president for the situation they are in right now that that he inherited estimates more dangerous than it was in 2001 when an egg during was just pointed out and it was just trouble some that given the longevity of his Service Or Participation in the 20 years to reduce it to a moment in time to blame it on the prior administration when there was nothing but firm Messaging And Positioning from the united states that every american can see through that. Something that takes this long includes different mistakes. That was a bipartisan series of mistakes. And if afghanistan shouldve been a unitary country that is the question but if you look back on pauls, both administration will do everything to try to shift blame to say this is not our problem. We were handed a terrible situation. No matter what someone had to bite the bullet and Joe Biden did the president ial thing. But i feel like if that was the case i dont think he would be on vacation right now. That is so striking to me he remains on vacation has yet to address the american people. But there are for us president s that all have their fingerprints on this but President Biden and his administration are in charge now and regardless of the decisions made we are at this point and it is of no comfort to the afghan people and the women and children who are under Sharia Law he does not feel like this is his problem or his fault so what will we do now . So since friday it has been terrifying if you are watching this every day and i just want to give an update because we are seeing that the spokesman for the taliban without a zero we are ready to deal with the concerns of the international committee through dialogue is not comforting unless they talk about Russia China and pakistan. [laughter] i thank you are completely right and the thing that frustrates me so much the way this has been covered so poorly by those in the corporate Media Establishment is that they are perfectly happy to step back and put their faith in his administration up next we will discuss the strategy and on in afghanistan what he learned from theac administration. Welcome to allstate. Phone Notification where weve just lowered our Auto Rates. And savings like that will have you jumping for joy. Now, get new lower Auto Rates with allstate. Because better protection costs a whole lot less. Youre in good hands with allstate. Click or call for a lower Auto Rate today. Fox News Alert The Embassy In Kabul is evacuated as the taliban expands control and afghanistan. Now the Senior Advisor under President Trump and bush thank you for being here. Before we get started want to play something that President Biden said last month what we could expect in afghanistan and how it would not look like the 1975 Fall Of Saigon. No circumstance we will see people lifted off the roof of a embassy of the united states from afghanistan. It is not at all. The likelihood will be the Taliban Overrunning Everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely. Right and likely to be his political epitaph we are in the early days but the political strategic fallout from this is really only just beginning and it will not be good for any of that people in charge in many ways this is worse than the Fall Of Saigon there is a Twoyear Gap between president nixon ordered forces out of South Vietnam as an agreement with the North Vietnamese and when that fell and saigon only sell in a very liberal congress elected in the wake of watergate for cutting off of funds and support 24 South Vietnam. This happened without any of that. It is just on President Biden in the failed military industrial complex. And frankly the u. S. Army has a lot to answer for. Not the troops. They did what was asked of them but so this is quite stunning. The other question i did have has to do with the international community and the taliban has said it once a space and thats why the airstrip is still open but i feel strange to say that but how sincere is the Mitch On the taliban and taken seriously including the un quick. We cannot take another word we have to wait and see. We have done interesting things that has done something different from 2001 bbc interviews the administrators in cities that they have taken over thats interesting they conducted those interviews as opposed to be had their journalist and the Afghan Army faded away so quickly but the taliban offered free passage and said drop your weapon take off your uniform and go back to your town and you are okay. Now one month or one year from now if the taliban sticks with that. I dont think we can write off the Potential A Unitary Afghanistan in 2021 looks different than before we knocked off the regime in 2001. But we cannot take that on it such a shame the national security has come down to hoping the taliban keeps its word. That is nuts. Christian, you mention something important to me. There ought to be answers for the way this played out from Military Leadership and the leaders of the Intelligence Community. Americans have lost so much faith with those leaders and that class of people to be holy and good at their job over the past several years and i am concerned there will not be any real ramifications. What is your level of confidence for what went on here . Congress is the only one that can hold the military accountable from the general millie to joint Chief Of Staff which is a holdover from Trump And Secretary of defense who really should resign. They are sent, all the way. They are the fourstar generals who been telling us for years and years it is that close to greatness and they are completely wrong and then you have mari Mike Gallagher armed Services Committee asking if the military is combat ready politics have gotten that far and this is a chance to reevaluate because it is China And Iran and we have a military not organize for that we have been so focused on Cowboys And Indians and said on centcom and also that necessary positioning to deter iran with a Nuclear Iran in the future. Christian thank you so much we appreciate your time he will have more after the break. Thats why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Oh, yeah. Thats the spot. Only pay for what you need. Liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty vo how do you know when youve found your team . Whether youre winning, or just doing your best. When youre on the lanes, theyre right behind you. Reunite with your team. Go bowling. We did it again. 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And also with outreach all weekend long you may remember friday White House Press Secretary Pat A statement that said the president does not require one regret his decision of afghanistan and then also a statement from the president a picture from F One from Kim Davitt Camp David and a warning to the taliban and then today another Biden Work Photo and secretary of State Lincoln doing the shows and more troops to should on to secure the situation on the ground. However neither the president or the Vice President Go On Camera to have a historically significant situation it is problematic and the silence has set up the White House for searing criticism from all corners of the political divide here is just a sample and this is Joe Biden saigon she tweeted a disastrous failure on the international stage that will never be forgotten meanwhile joe is on vacation. And then this from senator time cotton why is the President And Hiding he should address the nation an answer for the catastrophic situation in afghanistan with calls between Cabinet Secretaries and senators dont cut it in a crisis. He also said this is one of the biggest challenges in the relatively young time in office for this administration. We would expect the president would want to get out there with Clarity And Purpose unless the american people or the world know that this is what is happening on the ground and this is a were doing about it on this is why we have made the decisions we have made you can put out statements all day but the Bottom Line is talk to the people. Exactly. And aside from Speaker Pelosi who commended the president we are receiving criticism from the entire globe by mr. Johnson says it has accelerated the crisis so are you predicting from commentary on the global stage quick. A couple of things that out to me you heard Secretary Blink and say earlier the international community has been tens of billions of dollars maybe even 100 Billion over the past 20 years to train the people to be prepared to do what they need to do to make a hard decision for their country and decide their own future and at some point and i think pulling suggest is the american people feel like enough is enough. That said these are Human Beings who need to be protected especially those who have sided with the us during the mission over many years and i think this administration would acknowledge it has a responsibility to them and in particular women and girls who have to figure out a new position under Sharia Law and the Bottom Line is the president should probably explain all this to the american people himself. Kevin, on that point are you detecting that any pressure coming for the White House from democrats on Capitol Hill that many are thinking of challenging midterm elections who need some cover politically on this issue to point to something from the president . I doubt that these types of photos or the statements will be something to satisfy that demand quick. I cannot agree more. You have to face the music it will be sharp criticism but the way you diffuse and this town i have been here for decades. The smartest way to defuse a difficult situation is answer had on because not only your Point Of View but also responding to the criticism that shouldnt come as a surprise if you make a declaration early on you take 2500 troops out you better be prepared to answer why you are sending 6000 back for the situation on the ground. Thank you for your insightful analysis for upcoming developments the official in afghanistan joins us live next. Of defense and afghan War Veteran Andrew Smith thank you for joining us. You not only served in afghanistan within the Trump Administration. The question i want to ask is President Biden says he has a binary choice about missing our Tens Of Thousands of more troops were what was happening to be sustainable does the Trump Administration feel that was the case why they wanted to pull the troops out . Being the troop on the Trump Administration saw the reality on the ground but the previous administrations are and was looking the other way it was easier to maintain the Status Quo then continue with a friend that somehow we were making progress in afghanistan one of the most volatile regions in the world and we saw the pentagon the top political leadership attempting to paint a rosy picture of what was going on in afghanistan and the reality was far from that that afghanistan military unable to stand on its own without the us dollar or the without the us military popping up the afghan government. That was the reality. In the Trump Administration saw that i wanted to make moves to get out with the condition based withdrawal. There is failure of the war with every single administration since 9 11 but the Withdrawal Failure is on President Biden. Amber, i have a question. We have not heard from the president himself over the course of this weekend. We have seen photos of him at work in the office has released a statement that he is blaming former President Trump for much of this. He says when i became president , i faced a choice follow through on the deal with a brief extension to get out safely or Ramp Up presence and send more american troops to fight once again in another countrys civil conflict the fourth president preside over the presence for republicans and democrats i would not and will not pass though War On to a fifth. So as a veteran and knowing their members of the Military Landing in afghanistan over the past 48 or 72 hours, to see those words in here that blame put on the president prior how does that strike you . This war has been going on almost 20 years. President Biden New the situation in afghanistan. If he did not want to have to face that he should not have been for president. This problem has existed for years. So for President Biden to hide while this unfolds while americans are in Harms Way and the Lead Ambassador had to be the effect from The Embassy and we are wondering how they are closing down the airport because Kabul Airport is taking fire how we will get americans out of there and 6000 troops will be flown in to get the situation under control and we have not heard from the president. Is a derelict of duty of the commanderinchief who was tossed with leading these forces on the matter top. I am devastated for our troops right now who have to respond in this way and devastated for the veterans who served in afghanistan who had to lose friends or be severely wounded. Or attend those ceremonies i had to carry the caskets of my friends and former pilots in 2008 from those shot and killed in 9 11 and its hard to see what has happened to afghanistan. The president is to blame for this he did not stick to the condition based withdrawal set up by a President Trump. Instead he push the deadline into the Fighting Seasoning gave the taliban months to set up. Thats important. Amber, thank you for your service. Thank you for serving this country and in afghanistan and leading troops or as apparently thank you for serving in the Trump Administration after your service. We appreciate the hard work and thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your service as well. Up next Dan Hoffman gives us inside look at the taliban forces that have captured afghanistan. Manage Blood Sugar levels and contains high Quality Protein to help manage Hunger And Support muscle health. Try boost today. At usaa, weve been called too exclusive. Because we were created for officers. But as weve evolved with the military, weve grown to serve all whove honorably served. No matter their rank, or when they were in. A marine just out of basic, or a petty officer from 73. And even his kids. And their kids. Usaa is made for all whove honorably served and their families. 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The fact that the situation is obviously not localized in keeping with the complexities of the relationship can you explain for reviewers irans position with the taliban given the prior weariness of the regime and also what part it will play with the united States Relationship with iran . What do we have to look forward to as we anticipate given the decision of this Administration And Iran . One of the challenges of Afghanistan And Pakistan to a large extent as well and to provide sanctuary to Al Qaeda Leadership and i think that to try to reestablish communications between those sanctuary with the Taliban And Iran will try to use that to curry favor. And then to make assistance from iran the iranians are provided with a iep to target us soldiers so for iran to target the main enemy of the united states with does sunni taliban soviet. I want to reference the tweet from Congressman Crenshaw who said the president is on vacation while american credibility burns and the Safe Haven is born but lets commend him. It seems to me one of the big things to talk about is american credibility overseas but here at home the credibility of the Intelligence Community has taken a serious had over the past two decades including this past week when reports were that they fight the whole process thinking it would take months and now days so what needs to happen to restore the faith of the american people in the Intelligence Committee on community to give us the kind of predictions that our leaders need to make the fundamentally important decisions . I just cautioned viewers to make any definitive conclusions what they have advised the president. And that have leaked out from the White House and other places. We have not heard from the dni or i would be wary to make any definitive conclusions. But i would emphasize one thing that President Biden talking about how important it is to address the nation and the intelligence he received from military that is important but also important to address our enemy, the taliban. What i would really like to hear is the president say if any americans are hard Will Tele Band back to the Stone Age and deliver that morning. Right now we are evacuating civilian diplomats and during that time we need the president just about the make a statement to the enemy. One of the biggest arguments we have had so far to keep troops in afghanistan is that if we dont have a presence there and we dont know when a plan to attack is being orchestrated if the Taliban Controls Afghanistan in one week from now do we have the opportunity to gather intelligence . For what they will receive by having a presence in afghanistan . You are 100 percent right. That is a major concern i would have. We are in enemy territory. It would be hard enough if there is a piece we did not know but then me but take it. But right now this is a denied area. And then but then it got harder to do it. But then between the 6000 of nato partners in thousands of contractors to keep the afghan Air Force flying we should have kept the Air Force space thats now in the hands of the taliban we have lack the capability now china will do deals with the taliban to explain afghanistans resources and so will russia. They are completely fine. We know that will happen. Is happening right now the deputy of the taliban leaves an organization that we have designated as terrorist. So the expectation is that threats will only grow. The Petri Dish both churn out more Terrorist Threats the united states but now we cannot finish them before they target is here. How does that impact our security here in the united states . It is the ultimate irony on the approach of 20 anniversary of 9 11 we are in a weaker position today. Thank you very much. The world watches the taliban seize control of kabul as a stunning collapse of afghanistan plays out in real time. Good evening i am Jon Scott and this is the fox report. That taliban Insurgents Tie in grip

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