State. So you dont think leaders In Washington would pay attention to hungary. They do but rejecting the neoliberalism. What does victor believe . A few years ago, his views were moderate an conventional. Hes thinks families are more important than banks. He thinks countries need borders. For saying these things out loud, hes been vilified. Hes been announced as a fascist. Last fall Joe Biden suggested hes a totalitarian dictator. Official washington despises him so thoroughly that many neocons are backing the open antisemites that are running against him. We watch this from the United States and we wondered if what we heard could be true so we came to hungary to see for ourselves. We sat down with him for a couple long conversations. Well show you some of that and you can make up your own mind about it. First a word about hungary. Even if you understand the american news media lie, its bewildering to see the extent of their dishonesty. We read many times how repressive hungary is. Freedom house, an ngo In Washington funded by the u. S. Government describes hungary as less free than South Africa with fewer civil liberties. Its not just wrong but its unsane. If you live in the United States, its bitter to see the contrast with budapest and new York City. Lets say you loudly and publicly attack Joe Bidens policies. His policies on immigration or Covid Or Transgender athletes. If you kept talking like that, you would likely be silenced by Joe Bidens allies in silicon valley. If you kent it up, you might have to hire armed body guards. Thats common in the u. S. Ask around. Its unknown in hungary. Opposition figures dont worry that theyll be hurt for their opinions and neither does the prime minister. Orban drives himself with no security. So who is freer . In what country are you more likely to lose your job for disagreeing with the orthodoxy . In america, its painful to admit it. With that heres Victor Orban. His worth hearing. Mr. Prime minister, thanks very much. In 2015, Hundreds Of Thousands of migrants appear on your southern border. They stream into germany. The rest of the eu says welcome. Were strong enough. Hungary says no. Why . Why did you take a different position on migration from other European Countries . That was the only reason able behavior. If someone cross your border, you have to defend your country. Stay stop. If youd lake to cross or come, theres a legal procedure. We have to do it. You Cant Cross without any kind of limitation and permission and then Contribution And Control of the hungarian state. Its dangerous. You have to defend your people against any danger. Tucker you think you have a right to do that . Of course. Its coming from the god, the nature. All arguments with us. This is our country. This is our population. This is our history, our language. We have to do that. Of course, if youre in trouble and theres nobody closer to you than the hungarians, you have to be helpful. You cant say, okay, its a nice country. I would like to come and live here because its a nicer life, this is not a Human Right to come here. No way. Its our land. Its a nation, a community, family, history, tradition, language. Tucker saying what you just said, which will seem obvious to a lot of our viewers is very offensive to a lot of countries in Western Europe to their leaders. Because in European Countries decided to open a new chapter of their own history of the nation. They call it new society, which is a post christian, post national societies. They believe firmly that if different communities even huge number of muslim communities and the original inhabitant christian communities, the outcome of this will be good. Theres no good or bad. I think its very risky. The chance that it will be not good but it will be very bad is obvious. Each nation has the right to take this risk or to reject this risk. We hungarians decided not to take that risk. Thats why theres hungary so thats why my personal reputation is very bad. Im treated like the Black Sheep of the European Union personally. Tucker so it has been six years since germany, Angela Merkel made the decision to let many Hundreds Of Thousands in her country. Millions. Tucker nongerman speakers, mostly muslim. What have the effects been in germany . You know, diplomacy is requires some bad behavior. It was that decision. They took the risk. Now they got what they have deserved. Thats their life. I wouldnt want categories to describe the outcome of their decision. The hungarians have the right to make our own choice. Tucker you became famous in the late 80s as a student, one of the leaders against soviet occupation of hungary. You were a hero to many in the United States and at the time during the cold war. We paid close attention to hungary. The u. S. Government was on your side. So 30 years later, Joe Biden while running for president last year on Abc News described and suggested you were a totalitarian thug. You can see everything from belarus to poland, hungary. The rise of totalitarian regimes in the world as well as this president embraces all the thugs in the world. Tucker he said be wilders for you to see the change. How do you respond . First of all, the reaction of that kind of opinion in hungary is not very polite, i think. Who is that guy to say that . Okay. Hes the president of the United States. We should take it seriously. But anyway, somebody that does not speak our language has a very limited knowledge on hungary even in the recent several decades of our life, no understanding obviously, having an opinion like that, you know, its a personal insult for the hungarians. Because hes the president of the United States, we have to be very modest and respectful and we have to make a lot of things up to clarify that what hes doing is rather fake. We try to do that in a polite way. We respect americans. We respect american democracy and culture. We dont want to destroy our relationship. Because the relationship with the americans is basically very good. Were incorporating well on defense, nato allies, economic cooperation is excellent. Big investor here, trade is going very well. Your businessmen is finding a lot of possibilities here. Everything is fine except the politics. The liberals in government In Washington. Thats the problem. We have to understand that. Americanhungarian relationship is value even if the americans dont perceive it as it was previously. We have to save what We X save. Tucker its a little strange. I dont think Joe Biden has referred to Xi Jinping as a totalitarian thug. Not just you, by the way. The Polish Government as well. The problem is the success. Its a real challenge for the liberal thinkers that what is going on in central europe, poland, hungary, in poland too much, speaking too much on our intentions. So what is going on here is building up a society which have very successful economically, cultural. We have some success, family policy. What you can see here could be described as a success story. The funds mentals of the success are totally different than it is visioned and run and created by many other western countries. So the western liberals cannot accept that inside the western civilization, theres a conservative national alternative which is more successful in the level of them, the liberal ones. Thats the reason why theyre fighting for themselves, not against us. Were an example that somebody with a country, which is based on traditional values, on national identity, based on tradition of christianity could be successful or more successful than a leftist liberal government. Tucker its interesting an an american to see this. So the american media, the biden administration, the State Department is opposed to you because they say youre a totalitarian thug. Your opponents are a coalition of former communists and antisemites. Is it strange to see the american left rooting for a coalition that includes antisemites . Yeah. Lets say if you would have asked me several years ago whether it could happen that the excommunist political forces and the Antisemite Right is forming a coalition against pro israeli, pro nato government that we have, my answer is impossible. But now the international communities accept it. Here in hungary, they try to make a broad coalition against the ruling government. Okay. But to accepted that, you know, by the international communist is so easily, im surprised. Im surprised. Especially the Behavior America is totally new experience for me. Tucker it does seem like hungary is moving in a different direction from the rest of the western world. I mean, do you think that 20 years from now that will be an unbridgeable divide . Describe what i see. Describe in the central European Countries, the countries that suffer the most from communist dictatorship. So in these countries, my approach or the hungarian approach is very popular. Probably have a majority in all of that societies. Not only poland an hungary. Theyre more moderate. The others are more moderate. If you understand what theyre doing, what are the fundamentals and motivations is basically belonging to the same political family anyway. Tucker yes. On the western society, there is a lot of people, millions of people that disagree with the direction of the policy taken at this moment. Which is not respecting the families, more based on migration, which is more open society, which is more so i dont say that the political competition is over in the western societies. I see chances in the key country like italy. The fight and the competition is very open. So i can see chances in the western countries also that they are able to change their policy from liberal to conservative or from liberal leftest to christian democracy. The chance is there. Were not internationally wellorganized. So the forthcoming years are exciting. Tucker ive noticed in the last few nights in budapest, ive run into a number of americans that have come here because they want to be around people that agree with that, agree with you. Do you see budapest as a kind of capital of this kind of thinking . The capitol of that kind of thinking or one of the capitols. Because the other central European Countries can organize that kind of community of conservative and Christian Democrats thinkers as we do. We incorporate with those countries. So those networks are getting closer to each other. Its getting more and more real. Since were a european network. But not only thinkers. Older citizens, average citizens are moving to central European Countries. Its not to dynamic at this moment, but the signs are clear. Many christian families and conservative families that think that Western Europe is not secure enough, the future is unstable. The public security is not provided and the direction of the countries or the basic values of the country is changing not to their taste or their intention. Theyre looking for other places. So if you go to the hungarian countryside, you can see Western European families that moved to hungary. In the European Union, we have free movement. So many are spending more and more time here. We cant exclude the future of the European History from mygation. Tucker within europe. The christians and the conservatives decide to find a better home. We cant exclude that. Tucker so up until very recently, hungary is a small nation. Had two big nuclear armed allies. The United States and israel. Probably netanyahus closest europe. Probably closest to donald trump. We are does that leave you . Were not fortunate in the recent years. Trump was supportive to us. Not just personally but politically also. That was a good friendship. And, you know, first america, America First is a very positive message here in central europe. It means if for donald trump, America First, for us, hungary could be first as well. Lets cooperate on that basis. That was a very good foreign policy. Very effective and we cooperated very well. The same with b. B. Netanyahu. A good friend of the hungarians. When he was here, he had a good relationship. He lost also. So the judo democratic thinking lost to major international supporter. So this is a totally new circumstance around hungary. For me as a politician, its a strong challenge. Tucker youve got an election in april. Are you worried that there will be international interference in your election in hungary . That will happen. Were not worried. Were prepared for that. Obviously the international left will do everything that they can do, probably more, to change the government here in hungary. Were aware of that and prepared to fight back. Tucker when the president of the United States describes you as a totalitarian thug, its a serious thing to say about somebody, i would note. That suggested why wouldnt the biden State Department work to prevent you from being reelected . I think sooner or later, the americans will realize that issues in hungary might be decided by the hungarians. Its better for the leftist liberal government in the United States to have a good partner, which is a a christian democratic supported longterm by the people, hungarian people than a government supported by america and take the position after letting after several months and creating this civilization. Not love but stable partner is better than the uncertain new one. I hope the americans understand that. Tucker no wonder they dont want you to hear what he has to say. You dont have to watch your country collapse. You dont have to have leaders that hate the population or divide their own people against each other. Who make the country worse, open the borders, that increase crime, encourage people to live on the sidewalk and do drugs. If theres any lesson of talking to Victor Orban, its that. The conversation went on for quite some time. One thing we learned, are the efforts to unseat him intense and stealthy. Mark steyn joins us ahead with his analysis. Well be right back. And there you have it wireless on the fastest, most reliable network. Wow Big Deal we get unlimited for just 30 bucks. I get that too and mine has 5g included. Impressive. Impressive is saving Four Hundred Bucks a year. Four bucks . Thats tough to beat. Relax people, my wireless is crushing it. Okay, thats because you all have xfinity mobile. Its wireless so good, it keeps one upping itself. Tucker Joe Biden while running for president last year on Abc News described and said that you were a totalitarian thug. How do you respond to that characterization . Somebody that does not speak our language has a very limited knowledge on hungary, even in the recent several decades of our life, dont understand us. Having an opinion like that, you know, its a personal insult for all the hungarians. Tucker oh, but hes a fascist. Theres no press for people that support the overwhelming censorship. Hes bad. They have not accused him of Rigging Elections yesterday. Mark steyn is watching our conversation. He joins us right now. Thanks for coming on. Its interesting. Hungary is a people of Ten Million people. Its not terribly significantly but the establishment In Washington Hate Them so much that theyre supporting communists and antisemites. Ho how much would you have to hate somebody to support communists and antisemites . Why do they hate him . His main political opposition in the hungarian party have members of parliaments make jokes about jewish male organs in public and do do quite disgraceful exme explicit semites. Many remember what its like to live in prison states. They go to the international meetings. Theres Joe Biden saying oh, yeah, its a very serious lock down, pandemic. Everybody has to stay at home, wearing masks with your own children. And oh, by the way, were building a Refugee A Center across The Street for covid positive Drug Cartels and Child Sex slavests. Angela merkel says oh, we have 1. 5 million refugees. They left their grandparents, left their kids, left their wives back in the hell hole, but lets let in the 1. 5 million young men to the point that sweden among the 17 and 16yearold cohort in the space of six months wound up with more sex biased denim Graphic Cohort that it took children to achieve. So hes old fashioned and loathed because he thinks the purpose of a Nation State is to calculate the nationest interests in the interests of its own people. Thats Victor Orban and a few other countries in central and eastern europe. So were in an insane situation where the leader of the west sounds bonkers and you get more western the furthest you go. And macron is less bonkers than biden. And in central europe, they talk like Government Leaders acting in the interest of their own people. Tucker exactly right. If you were to translate one of Victor Orbans controversial speeches from the hungarian not so easy, the overwhelming of majority of americans all races would agree, im totally convinced of that. Thanks, mark steyn. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Tucker so as you have heard again and again and again, it is racist to ask an american citizen to prove his identity before choosing the next government. Voter i. D. Is racist. Now the biggest cities in our country are mandating Vaccine Passports. You must show your medical papers to have lunch. Huh. Can this continue . One democrat is saying no. This is too insane even for us. Back in a moment from budapest. Tucker welcome to Fox News live. Im Matt Finn in los angeles. Another show down between gop and democratic lawmakers. Mitch mcconnell says his republicans will oppose raising the federal debt limit. That if democrats pursue their 3. 5 trillion plan to strengthen social and environment programs. Democrats can now either renew the governments borrowing Authority Or Pair back the domestic poll she agenda. A raging Wild Fire that struck through the northern Mountain Town of greenville overnight levelled most of its historic downtown and left lots of homes in ashes. The 3 week old Dixie Fire has blackened an area bigger than the city of los angeles. Theres no reports of deaths but hot and windy weather is threatening to fan dozens of Weld Fires in the state. Im Matt Finn. Now back to Tucker Carlson tonight. For your headlines, log on to foxnews. Com. Tucker so new York City just got Vaccine Passports. Everybody has to show medical papers to go anywhere. Youre going to have to show proof of vaccination to get a drink in a bar, diner in a restaurant. Its just the beginning. Bill De Blasio made it clear he wants to extend the mandate to children as young as 5. Hopefully soon our 5 to 11yearolds will be eligible for vaccination. We dont want to separate families. We want families to enjoy stuff together but in a safe environment. For folks that work in gyms,restaurants, you go into an environment and you know everybody is vaccinated and everybody is safe. Tucker its clear at this point the tens of millions of americans that recovered from covid and naturally immune have greater protection against the virus than people that have been vaccinated. That seems pretty clear. But theres no exemption for them. They have to take the medicine anyway. We dont want to separate families, so bill De Blasio. How long until they take children away from parents that dont get vaccinated . Why isnt that come something a former obama dhs official suggested other penalties for people that dont want the shots. Anyone that doesnt get the vaccine this official said should not be permitted to travel. Those people should go on a no fly list. Watch. My next guest says the unvaccinated shouldnt have the same privileges as vaccinated americans when it comes to air travel. People also need to be fervent at this stage. Were bumping up against another School Season where my kids its not clear how or whether theyre getting to school. Were done with this. We have to start putting burdens on the unvaccinated. Im done. Were all done. Vaccinated are done carrying the burden for the unvaccinated. Tucker fascist moron nut case. Notice how cnn describes traveling as a privilege. As if the right to go somewhere is granted to you by the generosity of our leaders and people that write for the Atlantic Magazine rather than god given. This is insane. Its coming. When it does come, who will be affected by it . The numbers are publicly available. The least vaccinated group is black people. That means these proposals will have a disproportionate impact on African Americans. So why doesnt that mean according to the sacred principles of equity that Vaccine Mandates are racist like voter i. D. And the sat . Most democrats dont field like explaining the difference. One of them, however, kim janie, the acting mayor of boston has noticed this. Watch. Theres a long history in this country of people needing to show their papers during slavery, post slavery, as recent as, you know, what an Immigrant Population has to go through here. We heard trump with the birth certificate nonsense. Here we want to make sure that were not doing anything that would further create a barrier for residents of boston or impact communities. Tucker look, the whole point of america is treating all citizens the same under the law. Shouldnt matter your Skin Color is, or race is. Totally irrelevant to how youre treated by the u. S. Government. In a moment that determines how youre treated by the u. S. Government. Joe birell is a councilman in new York City. So somebody has seen the impact of Vaccine Passports can they persist in the face of the numbers we just read . Yeah, i think it will be harder as we see more businesses especially those in lower income neighborhoods and where people of color live. Those are the ones that get most affected. If you live in far rockaway, 2 3s of the rest didnts cant go into their local pizzeria and get a slice. So all the mayor was boston was doing is looking at publicly available Vaccination Rates and realize these will affect differently based on a persons race, creed and neighborhood. Tucker they have ended the best High Schools in america, public husbands in virginia and new York City because the admission standards that are Color Blind had a desperate impact on different groups. So how can they allow a law that prevents African Americans and hispanics from eating . Theres no way. Thats why were filing a lawsuit, speaking about it. Most of elected officials in Staten Island are part of it. You cant have two classes of people. Unfortunately we know the restaurants are the ones that pay the price and can be responsible the entire time. Its not fair to punish the same industry that our own Test And Trace corps that says they account for 1. 4 transmissions in the state. Theres so much wrong about this but so much wrong about many of the things that De Blasio is doing. Tucker especially since tens of millions of americans have better protection against the virus than the vaccine would give them and theres no exemption for them, which tells you how stupid these people are. Thanks, joe borelli. Should be congressman. Councilman. Some day. So in the some day. In the where are they now file tonight, whatever happened to the Clinton Foundation . Remember they were going to save the world from Obesity Or Something . Around the time that Hillary Clinton lost and didnt become president , you stopped hearing about them. So what are they up to . Are they still curing malaria . Raising the selfesteem of the developing world . Well tell you . Just a moment. Were back from budapest. Tucker Sinister Meal Eastern Bureaucracies spent a lot of money with the Clinton Foundation not the Buy Access but to solve the problems like obesity in the third World And Hiv in africa. Contributions to the foundation 2014 to 16 was 130 Million a year. And then something weird happened. People stopped giving money. They stopped giving right around the time that Hillary Clintons political career hit a Brick Wall when she lost the president ial election. In 2017, contributions to the Clinton Foundation went down to 22 million. From 201819, contributions were even lower. So what happened . Did they cure obesity in the Third World. What the hell is going on . Miranda divine is a columnist with the new york post. Ive been reassured by the fact that as i sleep, Chelsea Clinton is working to cure obesity in the Third World. But sounds like they dont have any money to do it. What happened . Well, its rather remarkable, isnt it . The notion just fell off the cliff after Hillary Clinton lost that election. But theyre still ticking along. They marked their 20th anniversary, tucker. So i think the foundation has found a new way of doing things. That is to be a vehicle for Chelsea Clintons future, her political ambitions. Shes been busy saving elephants and teaching children. She got Lady Gaga to help tell children that they must wear masks. They have also been busy telling the Third World poor countries that they should be taking chinese vaccines. Theyre helping them in that end. Lucky them. And Bill Clinton has also popped in from time to time. He appeared in a Clinton Foundation junkett the other day with kamala harris. The topic was empowering women. Hes come a long way. The Clinton Foundation is working hard considering their circumstances. You dont hear much about it, which might change because remember, John Durham in the durham report, when he does eventually deliver his report, there might be something interesting about the Clinton Foundation. If you remember last year, he widened his investigation to include the Fbi Inquiry into the Clinton Foundation, which curiously found nothing untoward, but maybe John Durham found something else. The Clinton Foundation may hit the front pages yet. Tucker really quick. I havent seen the public opinion polling. Is there a hidden Ground Swell of support among americans for the reign of Chelsea Clinton at some point in the future . I dont know that there is at the moment. But then shes just doing some background work. Shes i guess youd call it the ground work. Shes polishing up her reputation. She has a very pricey job at some corporate that shes doing. Shes had a makeover. So i think its early days. Give her a few years. Tucker like 50. Thanks, miranda. Great to see you. Thanks, tucker. Tucker so theres a trillion Dollar Infrastructure Bill in the senate and a lot of republicans amazingly are supporting it. It could become law. Looks like it will. And thats kind of remarkable considering what is in it including a provision that would allow the government to spy on the occupants of every new car sold in the country and a lot more. Republican party, ladies and gentlemen. 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Qunol is the 1 cardiologist recommended form of coq10. Qunol has 3 times better absorption than regular coq10. The brand i trust is qunol. Tucker so we are finally learning some about what is in the new trillion Dollar Infrastructure Bill in the united States Senate that all democrats and quite a few republicans actually support at one time. We will get their names for you and read them on the air. In the bill there is 250 million, a court of A Billion dollars for invasive plant species removal. Engaging what are called disadvantaged communities. There is a lot in them and we will tell you more coming up but tonight you should know that the bill will allow the federal government to spy on people in their car. We are not exaggerating this. The law would mandate the installation of advanced technology of every new vehicle sold in the United States to monitor if drivers are impaired. It is lunacy and unless someone stops it soon, its coming. Josh hawley is a republican senator from missouri and he joins us tonight, thanks so much for coming on. It sounds like this could become the law thanks to support from republicans in the united States Senate, how is that . Unfortunately that is true, too much republican support in my view. This is not an Infrastructure Bill as you pointed out, this is a welcome politics bill. It has Gender Identity Language and aunt, he could open up Gender Identity lawsuits. Climate Change Agenda in it, The Green New Deal in it. And by the way, its all fueled with pork barrel spending, so im opposing it, i hope every republican will oppose it and at the end of the day it is just about Joe Bidens woke agenda. Tucker why do we have an Infrastructure Bill that say, fixes bridges or roads, our airports, our train stations, move the bums out, clean them, make them nice, why cant we have something like that in our country . Because that is not woken up for this democratic party. That is not what Joe Biden wants. Joe biden wants his radical social agenda to permeate every part of his legislative agenda and it is and that is why this bill is chockfull of all of the stuff you mentioned plus Gender Identity, plus The Green New Deal, plus climate change, its all been there because welcome politics is what drives the democratic politics and its what this bill is about. Sean republicans are elected to stop this insanity before it really does drive this country off a cliff. How dumb are they . If youre republican senator and you vote for something like this do you really think you can hold your seat, people wont notice . I just have to say i certainly Cant Support this. This is the kind of thing that our vow to send us to washington to say no to. Voters do not support the radical far left agenda. They dont support this woke agenda and i think republicans need to stand strong and say no, this is insane. Tucker i really look forward to finding out who supports it exactly and reading their names very slowly with pictures on the air. Senator hawley, you will not be on that list, we appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Tucker we are out of time, sadly but we will be back tomorrow from budapest and will be back every night, we hope. 8 00 p. M. Weeknights, the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. We hope you have the best night. We will see you tomorrow. Sean welcome to hannity. A lot of Breaking News this thursday night, tracking multiple developing stories including calls for Governor Andrew Cuomo to resign or to be impeached but cuomo doesnt seem too concerned. Of course, the legal issues he is facing our worst Man Anything but there he is, lounging by the pool with an aide. These photos exclusively obtained by