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A Growing List of new York District attorneys are weighing criminal probes into the embattled governor amid questions over charges on a federal level as well. All of this as a new poll shows 59 of New Yorkers feel if cuomo does not resign, he should be the first new York Governor impeached in more than a century. David spunt is live with more. Good afternoon. Hi, trace. I just checked with a justice department official. As im told, the doj doesnt have an active investigation into the sexual harassment allegations surrounding Governor Cuomo but that could change quickly just because federal law prohibits any type of discrimination in the workplace. This is from title 7 in the civil Rights Act of 1964. Federal civil rights investigators could probe into a potential hostile Work Environment and allegations or retaliation and potential witness intimidation. Trace, theres a Growing List of District Attorneys in four new York Counties that are requesting more information about cuomo. Back here the Department Of Justice, any federal case would likely be civil, not criminal. For possible federal charges, heres john, a Former Civil Rights attorney. Listen. Its common for the federal government and the civil Rights Division of the federal government to get involved and be very concerned about patterns and practices of discrimination on the basis of sex. If youre creating a hostile Workplace Environment by subjecting women to unwanted sexual advances, Thats Something that the federal government should be involved in. John has investigated the allegation that Governor Cuomo and his team undercounted Nursing Home deaths. The Department Of Justice just recently in the last few weeks dropped a a civil Rights Investigation into staterun Nursing Homes in New York. Remember, theres plenty of privaterun Nursing Homes. A Doj Official said theres an active investigation in possibly undercounting covid deaths at private Nursing Homes. As for the sexual harassment accusations, president biden said that cuomo would probably be prosecuted. Now well see what happens. Trace . Thanks, david. Now former acting Attorney General, Matt Whitaker with more. Walk us through this, if you could. You cant just walk in to court with the Attorney General from new Yorks Report and said hey, hes guilty. You have to build a case. What do you need to do that . You need evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. The problem is the local d. A. S that can criminally prosecute him. Dojs role will be in a civil level. I dont see a federal Criminal Case. But also, you know, theres this Impeachment Case that the speaker of the house in New York is saying hes going to proceed with. So the biggest threats to Governor Cuomo and what he should be concerned about are the four das that will do a criminal investigation and if these witnesses are willing to testify at trial, that could be his biggest challenge moving forward. And you believe the Criminal Case will be strong based on a pattern of predatory pattern. Why is the pattern so important in this . Its so important because, trace, because you have one witness making allegations and a defendant say it didnt happened. Its the classic he said she said. In this case you can put a witness on and another witness and say that happened to me, too. By the time you get to the third or fourth or 11th in this case, a pattern a juriry will understand that you have a predator that takes advantage of his office and goes after vulnerable employees that are below him that he has power over. So i think that pattern is the most important thing in this case. What about the length of time between the accusations, matt . Does that hurt the possibility of prosecuting this . It does. For these assaults in New York, its a twoyear statute of limitations. Some of these are beyond that. At the same time, i do believe a judge would let that evidence in the it wasnt to prosecute that particular case to show a pattern. Martha cnn had a oped of will cuomo back down . It says that cuomo appearing to be following clinton. Deny, deflect and do not resign or back down. What do you think . I think hes got a lot of pressure. The entire congressional delegation from New York has asked him to resign. Youll see a movement in this impeachment and he may make them go through all of that process before he is leaves office. From where i sit, i think he thinks hes going to run for his fourth term. David spunt was talking about the Doj Investigation into the covid deaths. Washington Examiner Headline reads as follows. Trace are you surprised that this is what it comes down to . Not really. A guy like this who is drunk with power usually makes plenty of mistakes. Youre seeing it Snow Ball on him. Im sure theres more as they continue to investigate and as he loses political power. But i think that story is that oped is absolutely right. It was complete malpractice and it should have been criminal. What he did and by killing thousands of people in Nursing Homes in New York. Trace lastly, matt, do you think the governor is in legitimate legal trouble and could be facing time behind bars . You know, a lot of these charges are going to be misdemeanors. So i dont think the threat of being locked up is the challenge. I think its the combination of the impeachment together with criminal prosecution that will he wont have any support at The End of the day. Trace Matt Whitaker, thanks for being here. Thank you, trace. Trace a The Story exclusive with a woman that said she was on the receiving end of a forcible and highly sexual kiss from the embattled governor and has the picture to prove it. Shes next. vo the rule in business used to be, location, location, location. Now its, network, network, network. So you need a network thats built right. 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You said he kissed you on both cheeks, made inappropriate comments and gestures and then you say i know the difference between an innocent gesture and a sexual one. I never felt as uncomfortable as i did that day Governor Cuomo came to miss home. His actions were highly inappropriate and disrespectful to me and my family. Did you feel violated at the time or did it take you some time to process that . Well, i knew right after the first incident, the first kiss, him calling me beautiful that there was something not right. I immediately did file feel embarrassed. So after talking with my family that evening is when i shared my feelings. They also shared their feelings. And they felt very uncomfortable and also embarrassed. Trace when the governor says that his attorneys say that you actually posted some Pictures Of You and the governor on Social Media in a proud type of way, why if you feel violated or felt violated by the governor would you post those pictures . Well, the first photos that i posted was to a Family Member on facebook. Because he knew the whole story. I was sharing with him the photos of how this is continuing. So he lived out of town. I was sharing something with him on Social Media. Trace sherry, the legal experts say the governor could be in very big legal trouble here. But prosecutors would need to build a case and they would need the accusers to testify. Would you testify against Governor Cuomo . I would. Trace why . You answered so quickly. What is the compelling motive behind that . Because first, i am i have a different feeling about the way his response to us, women, and that hes trying to make excuses for his behavior. I also feel like that is the right thing to do. Trace i want to play this Sound Bite. This is the governor dismissing his accusers. I want sherrys final thoughts on the other side of this. Watch this. For those using this moment to score political points or seek publicity or personal gain, i say they actually discredit the legitimate sexual harassment victims that the law was designed to protect. Trace sherry, hes saying you and the other accusers are doing a disservice to genuine victims. That comment has outraged a lot of people across the country. Your thoughts. I too am outraged. This has nothing to do with what he is claiming. The governor is not above the law or plain decency. So i think its a disgrace what hes doing. Trace gloria alred, sherry vill, Thank You. Thank you. Trace floridas governor fights back after the president tells him to help or get out of the way. This is a guy that ran for president saying that he was going to shut down the virus what has he done . Hes imported more virus by having a wide open southern border. Trace dr. Marc siegel when The Story continues. Balance risk and reward, i see one element securing portfolios, time after time. Gold. 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I can tell you in florida, the parents are in charge of that decision. Trace Florida Governor Ron Desantis who has been outspoken about masks being personal Choice Firing back at president Biden Swiped at the governor to get out of the way. We need leadership from everyone. Some governors are not willing to do the right thing to beat this pandemic, they should allow businesses, universities who want to do the right thing to do it. I say to these governors, please help. If youre not going to help, at least get out of the way. People are trying to do the right thing. Trace lets bring in dr. Marc siegel from nyu langone. Just quickly on the biden thing, i want to reiterate. Ron desantis has a lot of evidence shows hes made the right moves during the pandemic. When Greg Abbott was taking down the Mask Mandate in texas, the president said it was reckless. So the president has been going after these governors for quite some time. Some of their moves have been effective. Your thoughts. I dont like the language. Its too political. It has to be medical. I agree with you that Governor Desantis has done a lot to try to keep businesses open. A lot of people moved to florida as a result. Look at public health as a larger picture. Its not just covid. Its what damage you do by closing things down. When it comes to schools, i differ from the governor. You know what . We have to keep the schools open. Im worried, 50,000 new cases in florida, almost a third of the cases in the country even though the Death Rate is very, very low and kids are not the ones that get the sickest and they dont carry it. So a kindergartener is not that likely to spread it at all. Studies show with the Delta Variant, i think recommending masks to young children is a good idea. Many states are doing that. Michigan is doing that. Colorado is doing that. But mandate is the question. The governor of Florida Points Out is saying dont do that. So i side with the president in that. I think local municipalities should have the right to do that. I dont want the Teachers Unions to come in and outan outbreak to close the schools. We need them open. Trace i want to play this. This is randi weingarten. Listen to her on msnbc today. Well get your response. I was on Meet The Press with chuck todd. I had an 20minute Interview and its clear that were trying to get Back To School to make sure everybody was safe and felt comfortable. Fox took one word i used and said i was hedging. This is about trying to create the climate where everybody feels that they are safe and welcome Back To School. Trace fox didnt take one word dr. Siegel. She said eight words. The eight words were as follows. Were going to try to open up schools. Thats a big difference from were getting kids back in school. Thats what everybody fears is because this is become so politicized that the Teachers Unions will say no, you definitely have to wear a mask. Were not going Back To School. Even then, its iffy. Really good point. The word try, i like that. How can you try . Last year kids being out of school caused tremendous psychological damage, mental health damage, developmental delays were missed. Young kids at home trying to learn remotely. Poor children that couldnt afford an ipad. Then you found out that they were more likely to spread it in the community than the school. Then you found out the rate of spread in school was 1 . I dont think the word try here fits what fits is open the schools and do what you can to keep them open. Dont start with excuses why they have to close. Talk about moving the goal posts, we can vaccinate every teacher. One of her thoughts last year, what about the teachers . Lets get all the teachers and staff vaccinated. That should be the priority. Way more important than masks. Trace last thing to say. Its sad to me that this has to continue to be a white Knuckle Ride for families. Many places children and families have not been prioritized in terms of thinking through what is needed to help them return to school. What is needed . Your final thoughts, dr. Siegel. That is a really good quote. What is needed is to look at what Socialization Harm has been done in terms of friendships, in terms of thinking, in terms of learning. Where are we with the learning of our children in the united states that we have to overcome going forward. Planning on being in person, what mechanisms do we have to do. Like i think all the time with the screening. Hey, you didnt get your screening last year. You didnt get your colonoscopy. Im doing it now. We have to compensate for those days the kids were out of school. Big harm was done. We can still fix that. We have to commit right now. Schools open No Matter What throughout the country. Trace the sad thing is, we wont know the Damage Weve done to these kids for several years. Dr. Marc, good to see you. Thank you. Thank you, trace. Trace president bidens educational secretary addressing the allimportant question of schools reopening despite a rise in cases from the Delta Variant. The chief Washington Correspondent Mike Emanuel has more. Mike . Its the hot question with millions of american parents. With the return to school to fall this year. Miguel cardona emphasized vaccinate children 12 and older and using the 130 Billion in american Rescue Plan funds to help schools with reopening. He also emphasized protecting the Health And Safety of students and teachers. Were now experiencing an increase in the Delta Variant. This uptick is concerning. The difference this year is that we can control the virus. Part of his pitch is having children wearing masks in school even though there are some parents that worry about the Health Effects of children wearing masks all day long. Were not Out Of The Woods yet. If we get vaccinated and we keep using sciencebased prevention strategies, we can be. We cannot let Mask Fatigue Pride or politics get in the Write A of doing what is right for our students. A critical component of return to inperson learning, cardona needs the Teachers Union on board to return to the classroom. We have to open schools totally fully five days a week. We have not retreated from our commitment. We know we must open schools. We know its vitally important for kids to be in schools. We need them safe. Theres states from florida to texas to utah with bans on Mask Mandates. It would seem that battle will likely be waged in court. Trace . Trace maybe. Mike emanuel, Thank You. Good to see you. The shocking Prime Time omission from Governor Cuomos cnn Host Brother is next. This was the actual swap that was being used to fit up that double Barrel Shotgun that you have mounted on the front of your pretty face. Brainy on tv l neuroscientist. And i love the science behind Neuriva Plus. 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Now Chris Cuomo, who repeatedly hosted his brother on his Prime Time show after covid19 struck didnt mention the scandal as you just said because he couldnt. The network and Chris Cuomo agreed he could no longer cover the governor in any way now that hes in serious trouble. Now, the state Attorney General found evidence that Chris Cuomo was more involved than we knew in trying to defend his brother against the harassment accusations. In february, Chris Cuomo email add Draft Statement of denial to his Brothers Office like i never intended to offend anyone, which is what the governor said in his statement. We dont know whether Chris Cuomo was writing or editing that statement. The a. G. Also found evidence that confirming an earlier Washington Post report, Chris Cuomo had joined in Strategy Calls with his brother and top officials at the time the sexual harassment allegations first surfaced. Cnn at the time called that inappropriate. Chris cuomo went On The Air and apologized for putting his colleagues in a difficult position. The network took no action against him. Cnn has not responded to my request for comment today. Trace thanks, howie. Here for wednesdays with will, Win Cain Host of the Will Cain podcast. The Cnn Article said trace you think he can keep that show . I do. I think he can. Because any metric you and i might use as to when someone should forfeit a show, when someone has lost total credibility is not a standard that applies to cnn. At this point and on this story, Chris Cuomo has zero credibility. Cnn has zero credibility. Trace, im a little bit sympathetic hear me out im a little sympathetic to cuomo. Jesse kelly said family always come first. But you dont get to have it both ways. You dont get to prioritize and defend your family and retain your credibility in the public. You cant protect your Brother And Lie to your audience. So chris chose which Write A to go. He chose to protect his brother. But thats fine. But dont pretend to be a truth teller. For cnn, please, dont Tell Me he cant cover Governor Cuomo now when he could when it was flattering. When he could throughout the early days when the governor was being lionized. Thats not a standard. Its a moving target that protects chris and the governor. So either way, Chris And Cnn have managed to accomplice a difficult feat, trace, which is to totally destroy both of their little remaining credibility over one story. Trace a good point. So did howie. Glen greenwald was spot on. He said trace it is a corner that they are stuck in, will. It should paint everyones impression of who exactly cnn is and what exactly cnn is telling you. That is the important takeaway in The End. Its not about Chris Cuomo. Even for that matter, about cnn. Its about the information that you and i and you watching at home are getting. The truth is, if someone has zero credibility, why is that limited to one story . You heard Chris Cuomo said lets focus on covid. You think he should retain over the Fear Porn that cnn have delivering . Someone showed you theyre not willing to tell the trust at all times. We know the same applies to when they talked about the covid origins. Theyve impacted our everyday lives, a president ial election when it comes to hunter biden. In tend, the important thing is theyre not truth tellers. Trace lastly, we should give joe concha credit. Chris cuomo didnt talk about his brother at all but he started the show, opens the show but attacking Governor Desantis instead of addressing the elephant against sexual allegations against his brother. Heave andrew alone but attack desantis, who has made some good choices the past 1 1 2 years. Your final thoughts. Absolutely. I was just spending the weekend with some floridians. Let me promise you, theyre very happy with Governor Desantis to who this day is the best performing with the balancing the economy and the low amount of covid deaths no matter how many Lies Cnn may tell you. Trace good to see you. Thank you. Trace the government handouts that might make it more lucrative for americans to stay on the couch than get a job. Tomi lahren has diagnosed the dilemma and shes next. Our home. You can take out 50,000 or more. Use it to improve your home, get the Kitchen Youve always dreamed of, or have the security of cash in the bank. Use your Va Home Loan Benefit at newday to get the financial security you and your family deserve. The newday100 Va Cash out loan. Veteran homeowners. While some banks are raising their interest Rates Newday is holding the line to keep their rates low. Two and quarter percent, just 2. 48 apr. Save thousands every year. Not all 5g Networks are created equal. When it comes to 5g coverage, tmobile is the best thing on the menu. Tmobile. Americas largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. Trace 4,000 a month. Thats how much a parent of unemployed of two can be made by couch sitting instead of going to work. Thanks to Government Assistance programs making it difficult for businesses to hire workers. Tomi lahren called it incentivized laziness. First to Hillary Vaughn on capitol hill. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, trace. Anyone would get Sticker Shock looking at the estimates from government accountability. Fox news cannot confirm these figures but according to their map, Tallying Up what a Working Parent would make about minimum wage with two kids under six might be eligible for in government benefit. They added up unemployment insurance, Child Tax credits, food stamps. They could be bringing in 3,600 a month. A full time worker would need to earn 21 an hour, nearly three times the minimum wage to bring that money in otherwise. That is a problem. Because businesses cannot find enough people to work. The poll from the Republicanleaning Group found 73 of Small Business Owners are having problems hiring workers. Many businesses though are holding out hope that things will get better in september when the enhanced jobless benefits run out. But there could be more trouble on the horizon. 26 cities in the united states have launched their own pilot universal basic Income Programs to test out. The government giving everyone a Tax Payer funded allowance whether or not they go to work or stay home. Trace . Hillary vaughn on capitol hill. Thank you. Lets bring in tomi lahren, host of No Interruption on fox necklace. Great to see you. I was taking notes there. 73 of Small Business Owners having trouble firing workers. 3,900 a month is what you could get from the government. If you work for 15 an hour, which is what most restaurants pay, you get 2,400 a month. The decision is not difficult. Stay home. Small business owners have had it hard enough. Some americans have become addicted to government. The government is using your Taxpayer Dollars as i said to incentivize laziness. Heres what they did. They created a problem with government. They shut down businesses and deemed who and what was essential for several months. When people werent able to go to work, which they wanted to do, then they started sending government checks paid for by you, the american taxpayer. Some americans realized hey, this isnt so bad. I can sit on the couch and collect a check. Theres always a catch to that. You dont just get free money, No Matter What Aoc And Bernie and the rest tell you, this is how socialism starts and the american people need to understand, this might seem great now but its a slippery slope. Trace you talk about Aoc And Bernie sanders. In los angeles county, a woman named janice hahn, a superintendent here. Very far left. She said poverty is destructive. Government needs new and better strategies to stop the cycle of poverty and a guaranteed basic Income Program has real potential. Give them money. Thats the answer. Just give them the money. What this really is a Pilot Program for socialism. The government pushing you further into dependence. You can be free or dependent on government. You cant be both. Make sure you choose wisely here. Theres always a catch. This universal basic income, theres some americans and Young Americans that think that money grows on trees and comes from the government. The government has no money. The money that theyre using and sending around and handing out that is your money. It has to come from somewhere. Theres always a price to pay and your freedom is not wort that price. Trace the ceo of Jp Morgan Chase was on earlier and he said this. Watch. We think roughly the Eight Million people that are not employed yesterday or employed, less employment, two middle retired. Two million waiting for school. Two million are looking for different jobs and maybe Two Million are paying more not to work. Its very possible september, october, youll see the tide change. Do you buy that . That was with mornings with maria. You buy that, september, october well see this change a little bit . Well, that would be wonderful. However, theyre talking about more restrictions, maybe more lockdowns. Youll see this cycle continue. Thats the problem with this. With all the fear mongering, the new variants and people not going to work because of vaccine mandates, once again theyll continue to incentivize people to stay home, to not go to work. Thats the problem here. It would be great if it were over in september. The fear mongers are doing everything they can to keep covid hysteria alive as long as people to increase government. I dont think it will be over any time soon. Trace thanks, tomi. Thank you. Thanks, trace. Always good to see you. 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I want to play the first Sound Bite which is him talking about inappropriate touching. Watch. I never touched anyone inappropriately or made inappropriate sexual advances. Im 63 years old. I have lived my entire adult life in public view. That is just not who i am. And thats not who i have ever been. Trace we see the three lines. What does it mean . You can see democrats were the Blue Line, independents yellow and republicans the red line. People say i dont buy it. It was not credible. I think in particular, when he said i never, he lost all credibility with all three audiences. He needed to have some support here. Didnt expect anybody to be excite had with he had to say but you expect somebody to say im buying what he says. We didnt see that in anything that he said. Trace interesting to me. They all dropped. All three lines dropped. The Blue Line hovered a little bit while the other two continued to fall. Lets get your response. This is him defending his kissing. Watch. I do it with everyone. Black, white, young and old, straight and lgbtq, powerful people, friends, strangers, people who i meet on the street. Trace seems like the independents and the republicans didnt really love it. The democrats stayed steady. Like okay, im buying this. Some of them looked like they were buying it. The important thing to note is that we say and we tell our clients, if youre at 50 or below, youre not winning any point. Youre losing ground. Thats what we saw even with democrats. He didnt gain or pick up points or change any minds. You saw the independents, the republicans didnt buy it at all. Many were outraged. You can see the independent dropped when he talked about powerful people. The arrogance. People said this is at the time tale this is ridiculous. We watched him lie. This is not addressing the real concerns. What were talking about is him reaching underneath womens shirts, touching their back sides. Hes not addressing that. Hes not addressing the issue at all. Trace let me ask you about the yellow line. The yellow line tended to go down and inched back up a little bet. Does that mean independents are like i dont buy that, i dont buy that but i might buy that. Moments that we saw some independents willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. In totality, many of them dont think its appropriate. They feel like hes a hypocrite in many ways. In one time he said were going to stand up against sexual harassment No Matter What. Now hes taking this stance. One person said, so hes a serial toucher. He should know better at best. Some people said i believe he likes to hug people. I believe hes guilty as charged. So i dont think he had a successful day of messaging there. Trace i want to play this one, this is where he discredited his accuser. We played this with one of his accusers. She was outraged by it. For those using this moment to score political points or seek publicity or personal gain, i say they actually decredit the legitimate sexual harassment victims that the law was designed to protect. Trace you can see the lines in The End dropped, all of them drop. Your final thoughts. Across the board people are outraged. One person said im very much amazed at him. Hes a disgray. The a. J. Has no political agenda. Shes a democrat. How could he suggest this . Women are coming out. Unheard of. Really blaming the victims. Its not received well by any republicans, independents or democrats. Trace you can see the yellow line did the same thing. It was down. Way down all three lines. That was not a good response at all. The same man that said that judge kavanaughs accusers have to be given credit. Its great to see you. Thanks for coming on. Thank you. Trace fascinating real time feedback. That is The Story of wednesday, august 4, 2021. But as always, the The Story goes on. Well see you back here tomorrow at 3 00. Your world starts right now. All right. Covid restrictions are ramping up as Job Creation a meres to be slowing down. This as we just get word that theyre putting the brakes on this years new York Auto show. This economy might not be on auto pilot. Welcome. Im neil cavuto. This is your world. What is going on with the recovery that seems to be getting bumpy as the number of new covid cases are making a lot of people pretty grumpy . Not only about going Back To School this

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