In order to see whether they want to move it through this process. Its a big test for senator chuck schumer. Hes been encouraging this process to move forward. He needs all 50 democrats, some of whom wanted a bigger bill and he has to keep in the mix ten republicans to vote to move this forward. So its on pretty tiny ground. Well watch it closely. It will tell us a lot about how strong the Majority Party is right now with this. Theres potential for 6. 6 Trillion in new spending in the United States. Both sides see this could be transformative potentially for the United States depending which way this goes. Coming together on what will be the most profound change to help the middle class in america in generations. The scope is rooseveltian. Im for roads and bridges. Im not for the explosion of the size of government. Martha Senator John Kennedy is here from the budget committee. This is front and center on his desk. All good to have you with us. Im struck with in that Sound Bite Senator schumer said it was rooseveltian referring to the scope of the new deal and how that truly transforms the United States government. A lot of entities that didnt exist before existed after that. Lets put this on the screen. Its a lot bigger than that. The first new deal represents 5. 9 of the u. S. Gdp. This whole Kit And Caboodle represents 36 of the u. S. Gdp. Your thoughts . This isnt a new deal, this is a bad deal. Let me be clear, martha. What were talking about. Senator schumer sets the agenda in the senate. Theres two bills that he has put before us, not formally yet. One bill is a Infrastructure Bill. Senators and republicans are working on that. Ill come back to it. The second bill is a tax and spend Orgy Bill that will cost 3. 5 Trillion. I dont know a single republican that would touch that with a barge pole. Let me move back to the Infrastructure Bill. Were not there yet. We have unity and uncertainty. I want a Infrastructure Bill. By infrastructure, i mean roads, bridges, ports, flood protection, clean water that is fully paid for, that we dont have to borrow money to pay for it and we dont have to raise taxes to pay for. Now, i want to see the bill. If it really does that and its true infrastructure and not a lot of extraneous garbage, ill vote for it. If its not like that, i wont. Im not going to buy a car to get the cup holders. But thats only maybe 25 of this equation. The other bill, let me say it again, its a 3. 5 Trillion Tax And Spending Orgy Bill that President Biden and my democratic colleagues have come up with. It is breathtaking. It will we will end up with 30 Trillion worth of debt. Martha would you vote to raise the Debt Ceiling . We learned that the creeling will be hit in october or november. Are you on board with that or not . Let me tell you, if my democratic friends want to spend this money like it was like they were sailors on Shore Leave, if they want to run up 30 Trillion of debt that we have to pay back, by the way, if they want to do this, let them figure that out. Let them vote to raise the Debt Limit. Thats on them. Thats their responsibility. They cant spend like sailors on Shore Leave and come to me and say oh, by the way, youve got to vote to raise the Debt Limit so we can keep spending more and more. How long would your family last if every month you spent more and more on the Credit Card and every month you paid the minimum. Martha all right. Senator, always good to see you. Thank you. Thank you. Martha here with white board wisdom, karl rove. The former george w. Bush Deputy Chief of staff. Good to see you. What are your thoughts as you listen to this conversation and listen to the senator . Theres a lot of wisdom there. I disagree with one issue, this is not 3. 5 Trillion. Thats what the congressional democrats and the White House say. 3. 5 Trillion. Hes right. 3,500 billion. The committee for responsible budget, which is a respected bipartisan group has looked at the gimmicks written in this bill so far, written in the measure so far that is called the american jobs plan. Their estimate is that the minimum cost is between 5 and 5. 5 Trillion when you get the gimmicks out of it. To keep the costs down, theyll say we set up a Welfare Benefit and its only going to last eight years or only going to last five years or were going to start raising the money for it now and well begin it in like year three and because we have a Head Start in raising the money before we kick the Program Inning to effect, its only going to cost this much over the decade. But the true cost of this plan is between 5 and 5. 5 Trillion. The biggest explosion of government in the history of america. Martha its truly mindblowing. We heard from Bernie Sanders and from senator schumer, both senators that they see it as transformative. They want to transform the united States Economy and essentially the cradle to Grave Expression is it is that, its preschool to Elder Care to make people more and more dependent on the United States government, karl. Thats right. These measures are universal benefits. Everybody gets them. You can get a free Community College whether your family is a millionaire or from a poor family. Theres no work requirements. You can get the Welfare Benefits without the requirement that you be working on seeking work. Youre right. Cradle to grave. The idea is to make so many people dependent on government that they will constantly support and vote for the party that promises more. That brought about The End of the Roman Empire and will bring about The End of america as we know it if we have the socialist regime in place. Thanks, karl. You bet. Martha coming up, Senator Rand Paul joins me. Here this hour on his call to investigate Anthony Faucis comments to congress. He believes the Department Of Justice must figure out if dr. Fauci lied before congress. Remember this . I have read Carl Marx and lenin. That doesnt make me a communist. The fiery defense from the joint Chairman Chief of staff over concerns of Wokeness And Readiness of the u. S. Military. Well show you what he said next. Tail businesses have a black owner. That needs to change. So, i did something. I created a black Business Accelerator at amazon. And now we have a program thats dedicated to making tomorrow a better day for black businesses. I am tiffany. And this is just the beginning. Id like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans because i know theres so many of you who have served our country honorably. Whether its 2 years, 4 years, or 32 years like myself. One of the benefits that we as a country give our veterans is eligibility for a Va Loan for up to 100 of your homes value. 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Theres three members that the Minority Leader proposed and the supposer did not object to. Shes objected to two members and the rhetoric around this from the Minority Leader and from those two members has been disgraceful. This must be an investigation focused on facts. The idea that this is politicized is really unworthy of the office that we all hold and unworthy of our republic. Did you personally urge this speaker to take the steps . I agree with what the speaker has done. Also, mccarthy wants to become speaker next year. You think he deserves to be speaker in the aftermath of his actions here . I think that any person that would be third in line to the presidency must demonstrate a commitment to the constitution and a commitment to the rule of law. Minority Leader Mccarthy has not done that. Are there other republicans that you or speaker pelosi believe should be part of the investigation . The other three she did not veto wont participate. Are there others you have spoken to . Theres many republicans the vast majority of the republicans in the house as well as across the country recognize and understand that this was an assault on our democracy and an assault on our constitution and must be a factbased investigation so this doesnt happen again. We cannot allow those voices who are attempting to prevent the american people from getting the truth to prevail and we will not. Does this play into the republican messaging absolutely not. This committee has been focused and i am certainly focused on ensuring that we get to the facts. In fact, there were 35 republicans that supported an independent bipartisan commission, which as i said would have been the far preferable way to go. Minority Leader Mccarthy opposed that actively and lobbied about it in the senate and the senate blocked it. We must have the select committee investigation. This is our only option left. People have to put their oath to the constitution above partisan politics and above party. Im absolutely committed to doing that and committed to ensuring this investigation is one that gets to the truth of what happened. Thank you. Thank you. Martha Liz Cheney, you saw that on the steps of capitol hill. Karl rove in for a quick reaction here this afternoon. Karl, your thoughts on what she just said and what is your take on what we see this things blew up when Nancy Pelosi removed representative Jim Banks and minute im sorry. And jim jordan. Im a close friend of lizs and a contributor to her campaign. I agree the best way to do this is a 911style commission, which were outside of politics. Having said that, i disagree with her. The speaker of the house should not have objected to Leader Mccarthys recommendations for the committee. That is immediately plunged into politics. Jamie raskin is very smart. He objected to the certification of donald trump. Yet hes on the commission. So i dont see why she shouldnt give the same respect and to the Minority Leader and allow him to name his five members. Im sure if they one constructive in hearings we would know about it and they would pay a political price. But the assumption that she would only allow people that she agreed with and she approved to be on the select committee was a political act that should not have been taken. Martha thanks, karl. Good to see you today. Thank you. Martha a Defense Secretary and the joint Chiefs Chairman were pressed on Whether Wokeness is infiltrating the training in the United States military. Where there is one United Front to defend the nation. Thats the way it should be. General Jack Keane is here. Lucas tomlinson has more. When Lloyd Austin says he doesnt want the forces distracted by critical Race Theory. Critical Race Theory is not something that this department teaches, professes, embraces. Were not going to spend too much time debating the merits of this theory or any other theory. On afghanistan, the top officer painting a dire picture. The taliban rapidly gaining ground. General milley says the taliban controls half of afghanistans 421 districts and putting pressure on half the countrys capitols. General milley warned momentum is at the side of the taliban if the u. S. Military withdraws, which is 95 complete. And we learned the first interpreters will arrive in richmond. Theres 300,000 forces battling 75,000 taliban. Millie said the Afghan Army said the numbers does tell the whole story. Asked about recent books on President Trump, General Milley said he didnt play any role open stopping a coup. He did offer the following. I always personally provided the best Military Professional advice to President Trump previously. We take an oath, an oath to a document. An oath to the constitution of the United States. Not one time did we violate that. General milley said the u. S. Military will remain apolitical. Martha . Martha thanks, lucas. Now here is general Jack Keane, the former Chief Of Staff of the african american, and a Fox News senior strategic analyst. Very good to have you with us. This is interesting. The Press Conference. The Press Conference we saw by the Defense Secretary, it appears that they knew they would get some questions on this issue of woke training to the extent that it does or does not exist. What did you think of their answers and their willingness to engage on it . The secretary of defense has been clear on this during testimony and also at the Press Conference today. You know, its not going to be a part of the United States military. Were not going to teach you, were not going to embrace it or support it. Theres no policy advocating that and that implies that if its going on someplace, he expects his commanders to knock it off. Its that simple. And anybody that has been around the military for any bit of time knows full well that for the military to be effective on the battlefield, to advance into enemy fire, despite casualties and your personal fear, the only way we can do that successfully is we must have cohesion. We have to be together. Anything that divides us or separates us we have always been against and will always continue to be against that. That is my sense of it. Martha yeah. I think that everybody in every institution has to keep their mission first. The mission is clear for the United States military, to protect the United States of america and do it in a unified way. Not the way that leads us to sort of being different factions in the military and have them commenting on how they feel about that. Thats a question that has come up lately and we hope that mission is clear and carried out for the benefit of the country. I want to ask you also about Nord Stream 2 and this pipeline issue. Its surfaced today that the german chancellor Angela Merkel spoke with President Putin of russia and this happens as the United States expressing their desire on behalf of President Biden to make sure that ukraine is protected in this arrangement that allows russia to become so dominant in the Energy Supply for europe. What do you think about where this is right now . Tell us. Yeah. These responses i think are quite reckless. Were trying to dress this thing up. The fact this is really bad Public Policy that we have here. I mean, the idea that putin during a crisis or a conflict would not use the pipeline and the Gas Distribution in to europe as economic and strategic leverage is an absurdity. The fact that somehow were doing to constrain him from doing that, having given up any leverage already is just not reality. Listen, this is a pattern that we have seen among the europeans in the past. Time and time again, not all the time, but far too afternoon, they will put economic and commercial gain ahead of national security. Weve seen it in the nuclear Deal And Insistence on continuing to do business with iran. Ahead of all the dangers that iran poses. Thats what this is about for merkel. She saw the commercial benefit and she wrote off the opposition to it within her own party, within her own country in terms of what the implications were for national security. Not just for germany but for all of europe particularly Eastern Europe and certainly for ukraine. Martha we know the ukraine president zelensky is going to visit with President Biden august 30th. We can imagine he will have a lot to say to him about the lifting of sanctions that allowed this deal to go through. General, thank you very much. Always good to see you, sir. Great talking to you, martha. Martha thank you. This alleged Shoplifter Id say its clear theyre shoplifters. 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In california, police say the shoplifters didnt bother to run. They gathered up the stuff and walked out of the store Carrying Piles of clothes, this video was posted three days ago. It shows the incident in grenada hills. Prop 47 was passed that prevented the prosecution under 900. Greg gutfeld is here with us. This looks like looting video but theres not. Theres people in the store and no looting. Its as if its in slow motion. First, you have to understand, its like almost impossible to steal 950 of merchandise from t. J. Maxx when you can buy a suit for 10. So that you see how much theyre carrying. Theyre not even worried. Everybody is there like yeah, what the hell. This is insane. So you have that coupled with the other crime, which i this brazen attack on a Police Officer. These things, they point to a greater problem. That is it is known you can do it. Its absolutely known. Theres an acceptance. Theres an abdication of civil society. No one is interested anymore in this. Its frightening. You talked in the break about how does an Empire Fall . It doesnt fall at once. Its like the frog in the can of water. Slowly boiling. Every day if you live in a city, you can feel that boil. You can just feel it changing and changing. Everybody you talk to, democrat or republican, are against crime. They really are. Everybody believes that crime is wrong. So how is this happening . Martha the crazy thing is, you have these das across the country. We have gaskon in Los Angeles and now Alvin Brag is joining these prosecutors that are lowering the offenses. For instance, brag says that he would decline to prosecute the following. Trespassing, driving with a suspended license, violations like disorderly conduct, consensual Sex Trade and outdated offenses or resisting arrest. He said we wont prosecute that. So Police Officers watch a guy jump a turnstile, we cant pursue. The problem with that low level crime, theres a range in there that is low level, Turnstile Jumping and some other pointless ones. Even consensual Sex Trade. That is not like attacking the Police Officer. Right . They are putting it together and so that allows the argument. Its like camouflage. Camouflaging the destructive legal the offenses by putting them in with less kind of inflammatory law breaking. Its all just a game. This is the elite Activist Class at work. Theyre in our legal system, theyre in human resources. Theyre everywhere. Theyre deciding now that you can completely remake a country without ever firing a gun. You just handicap law and order, handicap politicians by marrying the idea of racism to law and order. If youre interested in being safe or having a safe community, theres somehow some racist part behind that. Ironically its hurting minority neighborhoods worse. Martha the idea is if you dont press fences against any of these things, that somehow youll make that Persons Life better because theyre not going to jail. Think about the pharmacy that we had, the video with a Guy Clearing the shelves and putting it in a bag. He rode his bike down the aisle and got away with it. These guys say oh, you can do that. So why wouldnt you do that . Its not going to stop until something ugly happens. Whoever defends themselves is going to jail. Martha youre right. Good to see you, greg. See you on The Five tonight. All right. We just got our hands on Senator Rand Pauls letter to the Department Of Justice. Its interesting. He asking for an investigation of dr. Anthony fauci who he contends on May 11th 2021, lied before congress. The senator will join me next. Dont miss it. Youre obfuscating the truth. I resent that. If anybody is lying here, senator, its you. Doug oh are you using liberty Mutuals Coverage Customizer tool . Sorry . Well, since you asked. 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All the evidence is pointing that it came from the lab and there will be a responsibility for those that funded the the lab including yourself. I totally resent allow the witness i totally resent the lie that youre propagating. Martha quite an exchange there. Rand paul has asked for a criminal referral against dr. Anthony fauci. The letter has been sent from his office. He said that dr. Fauci lied about gain of Function Research in wuhan. I spoke with the senator moments ago. Senator, good to have you with us. Thank you. So you basically accused him of lying before congress. Now you have sent a letter to the Department Of Justice asking for them to do an inquiry. So the basis as i understand it is that he claimed quite clearly that there was never any u. S. Funded gain of Function Research that was happening at the Wuhan Lab. You say that there being sort of cute with the definition of what gain of function is. Can you explain that in basic terms to our audience . I think its important to know that dr. Fauci has a selfinterest in obscuring any Relationship Or Responsibility for anything done in the Wuhan Lab. Without question, the evidence we presented in Committee Shows The Nih was Funding Research in wuhan. We showed the exact numerical series of numbers that goes with the grant numbers. So yes, they were funding the Wuhan Lab. The Second Question is if it was gain of function. The nih was defined. The definition is that any kind of Animal Virus that occurs in nature that affects animals only or infects animals only, if you recombine it or how tate it or adapt it in the lab with other viruss that change it from being an animal only virus to being a virus that infects humans that youve gained in function or Gains Virulence and made it more dangerous. This happened in the Wuhan Lab. We put the quota from a professor of 30 years at rutgers, tenured, that what they were doing in the lab was the epitome of gain of function. You have to realize that dr. Fauci is not disinterested. If this virus came from the lab and its clear that he was funding dangerous research, Morale Culpability Responsibility attaches to him that and hes not being honest. Martha he claims you lied about him. He says there was no gain of Function Research funded by u. S. Dollars. The scariest aspect of this would be if there was any link between the dollars that went from the United States to potentially the actual virus that leaked. He at one point said to you is that what youre suggesting . That i was connected to . Is that what youre suggesting . He once again set something up that we werent suggesting. He said the viruses discussed in the papers from dr. Xi, that those viruss are not covid19. Were not alleging that. Were not alleging that dr. Xi wrote a paper how she created covid19. Were saying she did gain of Function Research. The paper proves it. The one way to get to the bottom of this, fox can do, this you can bring in ten disinterested scientists in this field and ask them if this is gain of Function Research. Many will speak on it and many are frightened because their livelihood depends on Nih Dollars and dr. Fauci controls that money. Theres a number of them that have been discussing this all the way back to 2002, the professor that we brought the quote from. He says hes been interested in gain of Function Research and limitations that we should have on it since 2002. Martha so let me ask you this. What response do you expect to get from the Department Of Justice and you think that Merrick Garland will want to pursue this issue . Ill assume Theyll Act in a partisan way and not pursue it. Theres ways the public can also pursue it. If the public wants to get to the bottom of who is telling the truth, convene a panel of scientists and ask them if what dr. Xi was doing is gain of function. Youll be shocked that the vast majority of scientists will say yes, its gain of function and meets the nih definition. Hes getting away with this because hes not being questioned. He only goes on left wing shows and they say isnt Rand Paul out there. Thats the questions he gets. Nobody asks him why isnt it gain of Function Research. If this scientists say its gain of function, how are you still denying it . People have to understand theres a selfinterest in preservation for dr. Fauci not to be associated with the Wuhan Lab and to admit that he helped fund it. Martha and there was a ban against gain of Function Research which at one point had been funded by the nih to figure out how to fight the viruses if they got out. There was a ban on it. Thats why the definition of what it is very important. If they kept doing it, despite the fact there was a ban, it needed to be defined as something else. That is what dr. Fauci is saying here. I want to mention, Josh Rogan has done great reporting on this. He said Rand Paul was right, fauci was wrong. The nih was funding the gain of Function Research but they pretented it didnt meet the definition. Josh rogan has covered this in department from the washington post. Thanks, senator. Great to see you today. Thank you. Martha so President Bidens Department Of Education says an error landed a controversial organization in its Road Map to reopening. The group who is called Abolitionist Teaching Network seeks to infiltrate classrooms and dismantle oppressive as they call it structures. Its cofounder on record saying White Supremacy is in everything yes do. The department telling Fox News today that it does not endorse the recommendations of this group, nor do they reflect our policy positions. It was an error in a lengthy document to include this citation. Leo terrell eager to respond to this story. First, we go to Aishah Hasnie who has the reporting on this from new york. Hi, aishah. Yeah, weve been looking to this group for a couple weeks now. These are basically activists that want white teachers to go to antiracist therapy. Looks like the Department Of Education is distancing itself from this. After a turbulent year of protests and lockdowns, americas children are heading back to school and could be new lessons to learn. President joe bidens american Rescue Plan authorized 122 Billion to the Department Of Education for State Education agencies. 90 of that money will go to local schools districts, which in turn must address the learning lost in the last school year. The administration asks that they do that by using evidencebased programs like Summer Learning and afterschool activities. Thats not all. Inside the department of eds covid19 handbook called Road Map to reopening safely and meeting all students needs, the department recommends schools use some of the money towards race and social emotional learning. The manual office as direct link to the Abolitionist Teaching Network that will help schools transform. This is a network that is dedicated to not creating new schools or reimagining schools. Dr. Love, an author an activist created the Abolitionist Teaching Network in 2020 to develop and support educators to fight injustice in schools and communities. If you dont realize supremacy is in everything we do, we have a problem. White wants to stop them from calling Spirit Murdering black and brown students. One of the things i bring to this work is a significant history of trying to trouble my own racial identity and trying to help other white teachers trouble their internalized White Supremacy and antiblackness. We found the group hired paid activists whose job it is to go to school and mapping, canvassing, creating meeting and propaganda. Education cannot save us. We must save education. I want us to be feared. For example, if teachers find School Uniforms to be oppressive, atn would send in their activists to help abolish them. You call us, we will fund activists and he or she or they will find out how and do the research, do the organizing. Teachers and parents show up and we dismantle. We hope to have hundreds of them around the country doing this work. Love has a history of making controversial statements on twitter like this tweet from 2020 in which she writes mediocre greedy rich white men are killing us. Its unclear how the atn Hyper Link made its way to the handbook as the resource for race and social emotional learning. Bidens deputy education secretary, cindy martin, is an advocate of Bettina Love. Last year when she was superintendent in San Diego schools, martin invited love to train teachers to stop Spirit Murdering black students. Martha, a legal disclaimner the department of Ed Handbook says any resources or links dont reflect their own policies. The question remains here, who added this particular group in this very important guidance that technically would have gone out to about 13,000 school districts. Martha . Thanks for that reporting. Leo terrell is a former Public School teacher, a civil Rights Attorney and Fox News contributor. He joins me now. Good to see you. Thanks for being here today. The Department Of Education says this link was put into this document, which as aishah said is an important document because its helping all of these schools reopening and telling them what materials to rely on. The link to this group was an error. Do you believe that . No. The only reason why theyre claiming that right now is because of the Fox News reporting. Lets be very clear. That type of mistake doesnt get in there. Theyre backtracking. I dont believe it at all. Martha when you take a look at what is in here and they do encourage as a general Sense Race and social emotional learning. These are the source of materials in a broad sense that absolutely fall in to that category. They talk about this woman, Bettina Love talks about Spirit Murdering that is done by schools for black and brown students. What would be your definition of that and what do you think about that . Let me just tell you right now, this is another way of defining critical Race Theory. Every parent that is watching this program, you have to look at the Lesson Plans, look at the stated objectives and look at the curriculum. Im telling you, this is a Back Doorway of the biden administration of trying to get critical Race Theory, some type of Propaganda Indoctrination into the Public School system. That is my teaching hat. As a civil Rights Attorney, this attack against white children and white teachers has to be met with a lawsuit, this is a violation of the equal protection. To assume that white people are racist and white children are racist in Public Schools . Parents around the country have to file lawsuits on this. We have to stop this attack on white people in Public Schools. Thats nothing more than an attack of supporting critical Race Theory, martha. I would take that lawsuit immediately to court. Any time this type of Lesson Plan is in a Public School. Martha i think youll see that Case Land in court because this is blowing up in a big way. Heres alexandria ocasiocortez, the representative from new york. She says this is not happening and its trumped up. Watch this. Critical Race Theory is not taught in elementary school. It is barely taught in law school. Why dont republicans want their kids to know the tradition of antiracism in the United States . Why dont republicans want kids to know how not to be racist . Martha is that what is happening here . Absolutely not. Aoc has to stop trying to be an expert in these areas. She knows nothing about education. Shes not a civil Rights Attorney. She loves to be on camera but she has no qualifications to talk about this subject. Put her on this tv set program. Ill debate her on civil rights, education. She has no experience other than being a congresswoman. Its disheartening. She has a large group out there that listens to her hand shes sending out misinformation that is misinformation. Martha before i go, i want to mention one thing from your teaching years. In the obama administration, there was a push to end detention and suspensions in schools. I think this would fall under what dr. Love would say Spirit Murdering of kids. Not letting them act the way they want to act in school and didnt lead to good things. Now its extended to what were seeing here, we want to destroy this school and rebuild it. Martha absolutely. Because the current Public School system, if you believe them, is totally racist and brown and black people. Martha many would say that that system is broken. Were getting a big close look at it lately. 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For the archbishop of cincinnati says he doesnt have particular oversight of this university but he wouldnt have approved the event if he did. Mount st. Joseph says the university has always been and will continue to be a diverse and inclusive place where people from different races, beliefs and religions can come together to discuss and share their unique perspectives. President bidens commission considering a supreme Court Shakeup taking up potential unprecedented changes to the court that would include packing the court or adding more justices. David spunt with more. Hi, david. It is lively and a 36miles per hour bipartisan panel. The panel is meeting a few months before several hot button issues before gun rights, Abortion Rights and Death Penalties come before the court. The court formed in 1790. The numbers of justices have changed over the years. This commission is looking at several things. Possibly adding justices, taking some away and eliminating some. Republicans see it as a Power Grab even though its bipartisan and many progressives are complaining and hoping that changes are made to the court. One of the changes democrats want to see, a retirement from liberal justice stephen breyer. Many say its time for the 82yearold to step down and give President Biden a chance to put somebody on the court. President trump put three on the court. Many people are publicly split. I have no comment and the decision that Justice Breyer makes about his future that is up to him. I have no comment about Justice Breyer. When you look at the court, he has to be concerned about the makeup. He makes his own decision if he will retire. If hes going to retire, it should be sooner rather than later. Martha, this is what democrats are saying publicly. Justices on the Supreme Court typically retire at The End of the term, sometimes at The End of june. That was not the case this year. After all, theyre Supreme Court justices. They can retire when they want to. Justice breyer says hes not made up his mind. Doesnt look like its any time soon but could happen any time. Martha . Interesting. David spunt, thanks. Joining me now, clerk to Neil Gorsuch and president of the article 3 project. Joins me now. We know Justice Breyer in a recent interview just said no, he hasnt made up his mind on this issue. What do you think about this commission and how likely is it that they will put out a recommendation to ad justices to the Supreme Court . This is a political farce, this is President Biden trying to appease the extreme left of his party. Many people are screaming about packing the supreme Court And Making ate political issue. Weve had nine justices since 1869, more than 150 years after the civil war, fdr tried to pack the court. Didnt work. The late Justice Ruth Bader ginsberg made the unusual public denouncement of Court Packing because she said it would politicize the court. Justice breyer said the same thing. Its a terrible idea. This commission should just very quietly throw it away. Martha is there any precedent for the Pileon Weve seen, the buss in washington d. C. That say retire breyer on the side and now an increasing number of senators that are coming out, we saw Elizabeth Warren with a Comment And Amy klobuchar said if youre going to leave, leave now. The Demand Justice buses are interesting. Its as if conservativings should donate money to this left Wing Group to guarantee that he never retires. It will have an opposite effect of what the liberals are advocating. Justice brier is independent. Hes liberal, sure but hes not a political actor, not a democratic objective. Hes going to do what he thinks is right. Hes been on the bench a long time. Hes the senior liberal justice and in great health. We have to remember that President Biden has said hes only going to pick a black woman for his next Supreme Court justice. The most likely nominee, just jackson just got elevated to the d. C. Circuit recently. She needs to be on that court another year before shes ready. Martha back to my initial question. Is there a precedent for this, this open pressure on a justice to step down . Ive not seen it. You know, ive never seen a situation where people are driving around the Supreme Court with banners and buses calling on justices to retire. So its i have never heard of this. Martha yeah. Its pretty remarkable. Its aappointment for life and his decision to decide when he wants to go. The Ruth Bader Ginsberg left them thought with how this should go and theyre playing it out. Thanks, mike. Martha thank you. The 1. 2 trillion Infrastructure Bill failed the test. That would have paved the way for the vote to begin on the Infrastructure Bill. No republicans voted for it. Its significant. Remember the ten that went to the White House, the president said we shook hands on it. None of them voted to move it forward. They were asking for the vote to be held monday, which could happen when the measure is back up for consideration. So well keep watching it. Thank you. Thats wednesday for The Story. Ill see you back here today. Great to have you with us today. See you then. Thanks, everybody. Neil thank you, martha. Forget about voting on infrastructure. Theyre not even voting nor starting the debate on the bill behind it. Im neil cavuto, this is your world. Senate Republicans Today blocking the overall formal debate on a bipartisan infrastructure, at least a package, the Frame Work to go forward. So this punts on an issue that republicans and democrats that used to have a bipartisan backing with this have