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The city that i was part of for 22 years. Chris now President Biden is joining the he debate. This shouldnt be a red or bluish shy. Its an american issue. Chris well ask biden Senior Advisor Cedric Richmond about the president s plans to combat crime and get reaction from republican congressman Jim Banks, a critic of the White House policies, and well get the view in the frontlines with kansas City Mayor, quinn continue Lucas Quentin lucas. Plus if you want to deal with the problem, you cant just deal with the symptom of the problem. Chris Vice President Kamala Harris finally makes it to the southern border. Well ask our Sunday Panel about her visit and the rough road ahead for that bipartisan deal on infrastructure. And our Power Player of the week, a former Cia Officer on the invisible attack that ended his career. All right now on Fox News sunday. And Hello Again from Fox News in washington. President biden released a plan this week to combat the sharp rise in violent crime, all three of the nations biggest cities have reported increases in murders and shootings in the last year. The largest Homicide Increase in los angeles, up 26 . The sharpest spike in shootings in New York, up 53 . As with almost everything these days, theres a sharp partisan divide over whats behind the carnage in our streets. President biden blames far too easy access to guns. Republicans say calls to cut Police Budgets and an easing off prosecutions have encouraged criminals and discouraged Law Enforcement. This hour, we want to drill down on all this. In a moment, well start with Senior Advisor to the president , Cedric Richmond. First, lets turn to Mark Meredith at the White House with a look at the Growing Wave of violent crime. Mark. Reporter chris, the White House admits that crime is on the rise but they say that this has been a problem thats been developing for more than a year now. Still, there is no broad consistent Sense S Sus on why crime is consensus on why crime is up or how to fix it. Shots fired, shots fired. Reporter from Gun Battles In California to chaos on The Streets of detroit, americas Crime Problem is growing and easy to spot. This is unacceptable. People ought not live like this. Reporter the statistics are sobering, mass shootings are up 30 this year over last, Federal Criminal Prosecutions dropped double digits during the pandemic and nationwide Police Officers appear to be leaving the force in historic numbers. In minneapolis where the George Floyd Case still sparks outrage, there are growing concerns over public safety after 105 officers quit the citys Police Department. In New York, where shootings are caught on camera in broad daylight, the leading democratic mayoral candidate said people are fed up. We want to make it safe. Reporter President Biden says he too wants action. We can do this and save lives. Reporter hes urging new measures to address crime including arresting rogue firearm dealers, helping former prisoners reenter society and expanding Employment Opportunities for younger americans. While the White House says new Gun Control laws would be a major factor in saving lives, were hearing from republicans that want the White House to back Law Enforcement to expand law enforce machined and reject some enforcement and reject some democrats calls to defund Police Departments. Chris. Chris Mark Meredith reporting from the White House. Mark, thank you. And joining us now, Senior Advisor to the president , Cedric Richmond. Mr. Richmond, welcome to Fox News sunday. Thanks for having me, chris. Chris why does President Biden think the number of homicides and shootings is up so dramatically in the last 18 months . Well, part of it is the plethora of guns that are flooding The Streets of this country and Thats Something that the president wants to deal with. Knows the toll that violence takes on families and especially Gun Violence and whats its doing over the last 18 months in this country. Chris but lets discuss some of the factors that President Biden didnt mention in his speech this week. Take a look at Republican Senator Lindsey graham, here he is. The Biden Fivepoint Plan will not address the rise in murder and vicious assaults in this country. We have a lack of Prosecution And Weve declared war on the police and that is backfiring on those who have done it. Chris Dozen Tore Graham have a point does Senator Graham have a point there . Absolutely not. In fact, Senator Graham doesnt have a clue. Lets talk about who defunded the police. When we were in congress trying to pass a Rescue Plan not the Rescue Plan, but Emergency Relief Plan for cities that were Cash Strapped and laying off police and firefighters it was the republicans who objected to it. They didnt get funding until the american Rescue Plan which our plan allows state and local governments to replenish their Police Departments and do other things that are needed. Republicans are good at staying on talking points on who said defund the police, but the truth is they defunded the police. We funded Crime Intervention and a whole bunch of other things. So i think that this is a very smart comprehensive approach to dealing with violence in our communities. Chris but mr. Richmond, i mean, the Gun Problem has been a problem for decades a. That didnt get dramatically worse over the last 18 months, even as the number of homicides and shootings did. You talk about the police. Lets look at some numbers on the police. The New York Police Department saw 53 increase in resignations and retirements last year. The 50 biggest u. S. Cities reduced their 2021 Police Budgets by 5 . New York City by 15 . The president may not support defunding the police, but a lot of these cities are defunding the police. Well, chris, i dont think that you can just make that analysis or draw that conclusion. We were also in the midst of a pandemic where cities were cutting their budgets overall because their Cash Flow was down and so i think that you have to look at in a very comprehensive approach. But look, crime was down in the 90s when we banned Assault Weapons. Its time to ban Assault Weapons again. The president supports that. He asked congress to do that. And you have to look at access to guns when you talk about fighting violent crime but we do it in a comprehensive manner. We provide funding for Crime Intervention. We fund interrupters. We create funding for afterschool programs, summer jobs programs, Recreation Programs. So were trying to do this in a way that it has never been done before. Chris but i think the point that Senator Graham and some republicans make, beyond just the question of funding, is that there has been an attack on the police as if theyre part of the problem, especially from some democrats. I also want to talk about the decline in prosecutions and ive got some numbers here. According to one study, more than 90 of the charges against people protesting and rioting after george Floyds Murder were dropped in most cities. In New York, the ban on Cash Bail has resulted in the majority of people who are arrested getting released. Doesnt that send exactly the wrong signal both to police and to the criminals who are being arrested . Chris, look, the prosecutions that State Prosecutors make in their Charging Decisions those be analyzed by the people who live in those communities. And so i will hold my local Da Accountable and i think that everybody should. But we have to remember here that it is about being smart on crime and those people who are peacefully protesting should not be prosecuted. Those that are Rioting And Looting which the president has said from the beginning of the campaign, that they should be held accountable. But thats not causing a spike in murders, homicides, Gun Violence. Thats guns causing that increase. So lets try to keep it at least targeted in terms of what were talking about here. And when you look at cities like New York and over the last 18 months you saw a decline in funding and other things that we seek to address right now. Chris yeah, we should say that was done unilaterally by the mayor of that city, de blasio. I want to ask you one other crime question. There are, according to the fbi, 33,000 Violent Street Gangs in this country, which i think you would agree play a huge role in the violence and in the mass shootings that take place in americas cities, look at a city like chicago. Why is it that in his big Crime Speech this week, the president did not make a single specific proposal about how to deal with these Street Gangs . Actually, he did, chris, when he talked about the Atf Task Force and partnering collaboration with the cities, thats exactly what were talking about. And so when you look at the fact that weve partnered with 15 cities to look at everything from Gun Trafficking to gangs and so a lot of people want to pick out pieces and look at it but this is a comprehensive strategy that deals with those violent actors that use guns and those Gun Dealers that are selling guns out the front and the Back Door and to people who should not have them and so thats why the atf will have a zero Tolerance Policy on Rogue Gun dealers and the atf and other Law Enforcement federal Law Enforcement agencies are going to team up with local Law Enforcement agencies to go after those criminals that are using guns. Chris i mean, respectfully, circumstance ive got to tell you, we looked at the speech yesterday. The president says the word gangs exactly once in his speech and its only when he says we need to keep the weapons of war away from Organized Crime and fugitives and gangs but he never has a specific initiative with how to deal with gangs. I want to move weve got a couple minutes left. I want to deal with one other big issue if i can. President biden announced a bipartisan deal on infrastructure this week but then he indicated that he would only sign it if there was also passed by congress a straight Party Line Vote, multi trillion Dollar Spending Bill on Social Programs. Here was the president making that point this week. If only one comes to me, im not this is the only one that comes to me, im not signing. Its in tandem. Chris but yesterday the president issued this clarification, the Bottom Line is this, i gave my word to support the Infrastructure Plan and thats what i intend to do. I fully stand behind it without reservation or hesitation. Question, mr. Richmond. What does the president say to those republicans who felt doublecrossed when in that original statement on thursday the president seemed to indicate he wouldnt sign the one bill without the other and what does the president say to democrats on the left who still say no bipartisan Infrastructure Bill if we dont also get that big Spending Bill on Social Programs . Thanks for the question, chris. I think he says exactly what hes been saying in terms of this is a once in a lifetime investment. The largest investment in infrastructure ever in this country. Removing lead pipes from over 10 Million hopes, largest investment in public transit in our history, largest investment in rail since the creation of am track. I think what amtrak. I think what hes doing is making sure were talking about the issue and not the process. The issue is we have to invest in our country with crumbling bridges and roads and were going to deal with it and so we brought together republicans and democrats and we got it done and so to your larger question, i think he did exactly what the american people want him to do and that is republicans and democrats come together where you agree to fight about what you dont agree on afterwards. So we are going to fight about the american Families Plan, republicans are going to try to kill i were going to try to pass it. Were going to pass it. And well sign both deals. Chris just to be clear, 30 seconds left, if he gets the Infrastructure Bill, he is going to sign the Infrastructure Bill. No ifs, ands or buts, no conditions . This president has had a strategy since the beginning, Rescue Plan, Jobs Plan, family plan. And we expect to do exactly what the Jobs Plan, what we did with the Rescue Plan and well do the same with the Families Plan. Were going to sign all three because the country needs this. Chris but no conditions one on the other . Well, we dont have to talk about conditions. We can talk about how important the Families Plan and the Jobs Plan are and we plan to pass them just like we did the Rescue Plan. People keep underestimating us. We keep delivering. Chris mr. Richmond, thank you. Thanks for your time this weekend. Please come back, sir. Thank you for having me. Chris up next, Republicans Slam President Bidens plan to stop the surge in violent crime. Well discuss the Gop Response with republican Congressional Leader Jim Banks and well get the view on the frontlines from kansas City Mayor, Quentin Lucas who says his city faces an open he epidemic of Gun Violence. Retirement income is complicated. As your broker, ive solved it. Thats great, carl. But we need something better. Thats easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. And we can monitor to see that were on track. 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Senator biden in 2002 wrote an oped, he said more cops clearly means less crime. You will not hear Joe Biden say that today because today Joe Biden is being held hostage in the White House by the squad and the radicals in the Democrat Party who control their party who spent the last Year Stigma tieing one of the most honorable professions in america in our Law Enforcement. Its not just about defunding the police. They talked about stripping qualified immunity protections for Police Officers who do their job, they talk about cashless warrants and decreasing sentence as well, cashless bail, excuse me, and decreasing sentences, a recipe that criminals in every city in america are liking what democrats are selling and thats why youre seeing unprecedented Crime Waves across america, murder rates this year alone that are higher than anything that weve seen before because weve taken Police Officers off The Streets and now Joe Biden wants to take guns away from Law Abiding Gun Owners who have guns to protect themselves. Chris but Congressman Banks, let me push back on that a little bit because in the program that he announced this week, the president said that the central part of his anticrime package is the 350 Billion in the american Rescue Plan, the covid Relief Plan that was passed. Take a look at what the president said. It means more Police Officers, more nurses, more counselors, more Social Workers, more Community Violence interrupters, to help resolve issues before they escalate into crimes. Chris Congressman Banks, you voted against that package, against that 350 Billion just like every other republican In The House and senate. So cant you make the argument that its you and the republicans who are defunding the police . Not at all, chris. Lets go back again and look at the last year and the record of comments that democrats have made from Rashida Tlaib who said chris sir, respectfully, i heard you make that point but im asking you, theres 350 Billion in the package, the president says can be used for policing and let me put up some of the specifics the point im making is important. Chris Congressman Banks, let me finish and i promise ill given you a chance to answer. The president is saying cities and states can use the money to hire more Police Officers, invest in new technologies and develop Summer Job Training and Recreation Programs for young people. Respectfully, ive heard your point about the last year, but you and every other republican voted against this 350 Billion. When representative omar says that policing is rooted in he evil and Nancy Pelosi compares Police Officers to nazi storm troopers, it makes it very difficult for Police Departments around the country to recruit people to become Police Officers. And thats the crisis that we find in Police Departments all over america. You can give them more funding and thats good. But if they Cant Recruit people to become a Police Officer because weve stigmatized one of the most honorable professions in america, weve reached a dangerous point. Thats related to the rise in violent crime. If we turn a blind eye to Law And Order and a blind eye to riots and we take Police Officers off The Street were going to see crime rise. Chris you say that more Gun Controls are not the answer. You heard former Congressman Richmond say that guns and the easy availability of guns is one of the biggest issues. You say that more Gun Control is not the issue and that most of the crimes are committed with handguns, not with Assault Weapons. But i think you would agree that Assault Weapons create an enormous amount of damage, especially in the mass shootings and perhaps if we had stricter background checks that some of the people who shouldnt have Handguns Wouldnt have handguns. Is there any Gun Control that you can support . Remember, chris, that in 1994 when Joe Biden ushered through the socalled Assault Weapons ban, later the Department Of Justice came out and said it did nothing to decrease violent crime. 75 of Gun Crimes are committed with guns that are illegally obtained to begin with. So what im saying is that if we are serious about reducing violent crime in america, then Joe Biden will go on a national Public Relations campaign, and admonish the radical voices in the democrat that stigmatized Police Officers and Law Enforcement. Thats the first step toward reducing violent crime is to support Police Officers, back the blue. Thats what republicans are doing. I have the only bill in congress by the way to codify qualified immunity protections for our Law Enforcement agencies. I invite republicans and democrats sign on as a cosponsor, show your support for our Police Officers and our Law Enforcement. If we do that, we can reduce violent crime kv were running out of chris were running out of time. You saw the clarification on the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill that Joe Biden issued yesterday. I just discussed it with Cedric Richmond. How do you feel about the fact that if democrats were still to put now the president said theres no conditioning, no linking between the two bills. Will republicans sign onto the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill if democrats are then going to go ahead and push a multitrillion dollar special Spending Bill . Social Spending Bill . You saw as you mentioned earlier in the segment, chris, you saw Joe Biden already flipflop from friday to saturday. We dont know what he supports at this point. We dont know what a bipartisan deal will look like. Hes already gone back and forth and back and forth again on the Reconciliation Package coming with the bipartisan deal. Republicans want to support a bipartisan deal but not a 4 Trillion socialist green new Deal Type Infrastructure deal and right now it looks like it doesnt look like Joe Biden is negotiating with republicans, hes negotiating between the Joe Manchin Wing of the Democrat Party and the aoc, Bernie Sanders Socialist Wing of the Democrat Party, not with republicans. Chris Congressman Banks, thank you. Thanks for talking with us. Always good to talk with you, sir. Thank you. Chris joining us now, someone who has to deal with the Rye Lens in our violence in our streets every day, kansas City Mayor, Quentin Lucas. Mayor, we just heard the view from washington, both from the White House and from capitol hill. Youre on the frontlines. So let me ask you the same question i asked our prior two guests. Why do you think there has been this alarming spike in homicides and shootings in big cities across the country over the last 18 months . You know, i think there are a few different sources but one of them very clearly was a lot of the efforts we had on prevention and intervention. We were unable to do during the year of covid. We had so many youth programs. We had opportunities for people to actually who are coming back from prison to get involved in jobs, all types of other things, and those really went downhill during the pandemic because we do not be together. I also have to agree with Cedric Richmond. The preponderance of firearms on our streets creates a significant problem. Each and every day. We have young people getting guns in Kansas City, young people getting killed. Those are very significant issues for us. Chris you also heard Congressman Banks talking about the attacks on police, the demoralization of police. He said attacks by a lot of people on the left wing of the democratic party. In Kansas City, you have supported a 42 Million Budget Cut to the budget to the Kansas City Police Department budget. Isnt that a form of Police Defunding . You know, i dont think it is. I think that the defund the Police Kind of idea, particularly when articulated by republicans, is a bit of a boogieman. There is no major american City Mayor who made Budget Reallocation choices without actually first thinking about how do we continue to deliver core services. But then how can we do better in addressing mental health, violence prevention, all types of other things and Kansas City were in a unique situation because we dont have control of our Police Department but that actually is a 45 Million that were putting back into the police budget. We just want to make sure it goes to prevention. We asked the Police Department, make sure its working with intervention, the Police Department has Social Workers itself, officers who are crisis trained, community policing, the very things President Biden discussed are what were trying to invest in policing and if you talk to Rank And File Police Officers, they appreciate having neighborhood policing support. They appreciate having Crisis Intervention teams. Thats the work were doing in Kansas City and what most responsible american cities are doing right now. Chris but the Budget Cut you supported, 42 Million, thats almost a 20 reduction in funding for the Police Department itself and there is the Kansas City board of police commissioners, youre a member of it, theyre suing the city because of the increase and while you have defended it, the head of the board, says he views it as a form of police funding. Defunding, rather. Well, yeah, and i fundamentally disagree. I think theyre more concerned about who has power over the budget and Kansas City what were trying to do is say as we give our Police Department more money, more money than it had in the original budget allocation, we want to make sure youre doing the things our citizens want. I think a lot of people are misreading Eric Adams Success in New York. Its not a repudiation of Reform Or Community policing. What its saying is we recognize we can do better. But the police will be a fundamental part of out. It is not that were saying abolish the Police Or Anything of the sort. And while i heard the previous Congressman Talk about all those types of things, i think the way you actually back the blue and support support our communitiess actually supporting them in helping to prevent crimes, helping to intervene in a cycle of violentrime, teenagers and kids get killed on The Streets of Kansas City every day, thats what were investing in. I disagree with those that are trying to politicize it. I think our friends on the right are trying to say back the blue but without Offering Solutions on how things can be safer. In my city, where people are murdered mainly with firearm, i think we need to do better. Chris i want to pick up on this last point of you made when you talked about the kids, the teenagers in The Street who get killed and the answer is they mostly get killed by other kids and other teenagers and i want to ask you about those young people. Is there a change in attitude . Whats going on where weve shown videos, horrific videos earlier in the program where you see young kids with handguns, with Assault Weapons just going out in The Street and spraying The Street and killing people. Whats going on . Well, you know, there are a few different things. There is always a challenge of community. It takes a village to raise a child. I think we need to make sure we invest in our young people. I grew up without a father in my home. I had a lot of other people, including a Police Officer who helped and raised me along the way. We need to do more of that with our young people. I have to go back to firearms, how is that it a 13yearold, 14yearold gets access to firearms so easily. Thats why i support the president s plans with the atf to make sure we crack down on illegal gun traffickers, making sure we crack down on goat guns. These things are getting into the ghost guns. These things are getting into the hands of kids and are having fatal results in places like Kansas City, chicago and throughout the country. Chris if you were appointed the nations anticrime czar for 24 hours and forget the politics, even forget kind of the realistic practical solutions and as we know theres not going to be a big, strong Gun Control legislation passed by this congress, whats the one single biggest thing you would do to try to cut down on the violence in our streets . I think the one big single thing i would do is invest in our young people, make sure when theyre 11 and 12, you show them opportunities that gets them out of a life of crime. Yes, we need enforcement. We need Police Department and prisons. If were not getting to young people early so they dont get involved in the Gang Activity and shooting activity, were going to continue to fail as i think we have been doing for generations. The city has been confronting violence for years. We have got to break the cycle of violent crime in our communities and i think thats what the president s committed to. Thats certainly what we are committed to as mayors around the country. Chris mayor lucas, thank you. Thanks for coming in today. Always good to talk with you, sir. Up next, well bring in our Sunday Group to discuss that shaky bipartisan deal on infrastructure. Can the president keep everyone on board . Hey, mom. Ill never say this but. 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Thats a really tight spot. Dont worry. I used to hate parallel parking. [all together] me too. Hey. You really outdid yourself. Yes, we did. The Allnew Buick envision. An suv built around you. All of you. A bipartisan agreement in one breath and threaten to veto it in the next. Less than two hours. It almost makes your head spin. Chris Senate Republican Leader Mitch Mcconnell going after the president when mr. Biden conditioned a bipartisan deal on infrastructure on passage of a big democratic Spending Bill. Well, yesterday the president tried to undo the damage, saying he will sign the bipartisan bill, period. And its time now for our Sunday Group. Jonathan swan from axios, dana perino, coanchor of Americas Newsroom and mohamadou mbacke, from the Institute Of Politics and public service. Jonathan, help me sort this out here. Because first the president announces this bipartisan deal on infrastructure but then he seemed to condition it, he wouldnt sign that unless he also got on a straight Party Line Vote through the senate a huge Multitrillion Dollar Social Program Spending Bill, then when republicans started to back out, he issues this clarification that we talked about, saying no, no, the two are separate, theres no Intandem Deal here, Hell Sign the Infrastructure Deal and yes hes going to fight for the other one but theres no conditionality. One, how much scrambling was going on at the White House between the first statement by the president and this clarifying statement and do they feel that the clarification has fixed the problem . Scrambling was about 11 out of 10 and actually it was 11 or 12 out of 10. I spoke to democrats and republicans that were involved in the negotiations, they couldnt believe it when Joe Biden said this. We should acknowledge its astonishing to basically present this deal as nirvana, the greatest deal thats ever been struck essentially for the american people and then in a sort of very short period of time say im not going to sign it unless it arrives on my desk with this other separate bill for social spending. Initially the White House, their position was nothing changed, you didnt hear what you think you heard kind of thing and then he put out a statement, obviously that wasnt good enough. He basically walked it back completely with this statement that he put out. So, look, i think theres going to be a lot more twists and turns before anything gets signed into law but this was a pretty big one. Chris dana, let me pick up on that. Because yes, the president is now saying theres no linkage between the bipartisan deal on infrastructure and the other alldemocratic deal on social spending. But i still wonder, the basic problem, isnt it still there for republicans if you support the trillion dollar Infrastructure Bill and give the president this bipartisan win, you know that in the next step whether theres normal Link Yag or not hes linkage hes going to go behind you and try to spend a 2 or 3 trilliondollar social Spending Bill. I think the problems are still very much on the administrations and on the democratic side of things rather than the republicans. Because a couple things. First of all, the administration took what was a terrible, no good, very bad week and made it worse by the statement of a Vees Toe Threat and a of a Veto Threat and a walkback of the Veto Threat. I have a feeling that Senator Mcconsistent Connell wont let his members get roll. Its the democrats that are in a fix because they dont have enough votes to play with. If they had 55 seat majority, maybe they would be fine. But they dont. They have 50 and they still have senators like Manchin And Kyrsten sinema. Im surprised that the weakback was just so strange. I have to wonder, what was the chief of Staffs Strategy here, what was the intent. They made everybody mad and have nothing to show for it. Chris all right. Mo, lets now put it in the democrats camp. All would adegree, its never good when the president has to clarify a statement at such length as this one, a formal written statement. How much damage did he do by saying at first, right after, within two hours of the we have a deal in the White House driveway, saying, look, im not signing one without the other. Now hes walked it back. How much damage did he do originally and lets talk about it from the democratic side. Because by saying im going to sign this, now hes ticked off some of the democrats on the left who have made it clear they arent going to go for the bipartisan bill unless there is this big social Spending Bill. Yeah. The fact that they had to walk it back meant that the initial statement wasnt a good thing for them. But i do think where they are right now is i bodies agree with dana i would disagree with day ma a bit. I dont think its a bad place for them. They can celebrate the bipartisan legislation, making this deal and they can tout it and the president s going to get out there and hes going to try to sell it and republicans now have a choice to either back it or not. I think youre going to i think senate democrats will rally behind this. I dont think youre going to see them go against a bipartisan deal that has the president s stamp of approval and reject it. I think the balls in the Republicans Court on this. House democrats are going to be annoyed if this thing is not presented in tandem which is what i think the president was trying to signal. Its like its okay, im going to fight for that too. He may have done it inartfuly. But hes now walked it back and said were still going to have this fight. Lets separate these. Lets do the Infrastructure Bill in a bipartisan way and republicans you have the right to fight me on the other thing. Im going to fight for it and lets see where the chips fall. Its not a bad flies be in because hes indicating what his priorities are on both. Chris jonathan, i know youre in the reporting business, not the he prediction business. Weve got a minute left here. What is your best guess . How much of all of this, the biden domestic agenda, will get passed and how . Its a nightmare in terms of legislation. I mean, in terms of the scale of it. We are talking about two transformational vast pieces of legislation that touch almost every area of the american economy including basically an overhaul of the Tax Code on the social spending side. They have to get that written. Its not written yet. Its just proposals that people are talking about. They have to write it into law, get it into committees. They have to fund the government. Its a nightmare. If they get it done theyre Lbj Times 50. So i cant predict the composition, the final composition of this. There is so much road to go on this. And there are going to be so many times when this is declared dead and maybe well see it resurrected from the grave several times as well. Chris on that happy note, all right, we have to take a break here, panel. When we come back, Vice President harris finally, finally takes that trip to the southern border but is it enough to satisfy her considerate ex critics . You love rich, delicious Ice Cream. But your stomach doesnt. That disagreement ends right now. Lactaid Ice Cream is the creamy, real Ice Cream you love that will never mess with your stomach. Lactaid Ice Cream. A lot of snacks are packed with air but not planters nuts. Our dry roasted peanuts have an incredible ratio of size to substance a delicious, salty, crunchy ratio. 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If they lift title 42, isnt the flood of illegal immigration going to get even worse . Well, a couple of things. I think if they had a chance to do a doover, i believe that having been given the assignment by President Biden on The Border, they would have gone within the first 48 hours, do a fact finding mission. If youre doing a check the Box Exercise you have to fully check The Box and going to El Paso rather than to the places like down in mcallen where the real problems were, i dont know if this will end the critics. Forget that. So shes gone. Now she can say she went. What does she do next . And its one of the things theyre going to do is remove yet another tool that allows them to prevent people from being able to come into the country, when she went to guatemala and she said do not come, again, theyre saying that but all of their actions say actually come on across because were not going to turn away. Theyre adding to the backlog here of 1. 2 Million case thats need to be heard by immigration judges. I feel that she is underwhelming at this point. They may be frustrated with the West Wing and they may feel they need more support there in terms of a policy change. Until they have a Policy S Change theyre not going to be able to fix the communications on this. Chris mo, i want to pick up on that because it sure seems to me that if they were purposely trying do do it, the biden White House including Vice President Harris Couldnt be doing a better job of creating a big, bad political issue for themselves in the 2022 midterm. Well, look, immigrations not a good issue for anybody, frankly. Both sides have struggled with this issue over the years. Republicans tried to demonize democrats on immigration over the past couple years. What weve seen in poll after poll after poll, democrats maintain a narrow edge when it comes to which party people trust to deal with immigration more. Republican base certainly doesnt believe that but the rest of the country does. So i dont know how the politics of this is going to play out at the end of the day. The Vice President , her task was to deal with the root causes. So she went first down to visit the northern Triangle And Figure out what the root causes were and try to stop people from coming across in the first place, before then going to The Border to see the ramifications. So was it a Communications Mess . I dont think so. But i do think that they are approaching it from a Policy Perspective very differently than the previous administration and we know that thats what voters wanted in the last election. Chris right. Well, let me just say that in the latest Fox News poll, the area in which the president polls the worst and his under water, more unfavorable than favorable is on immigration and the handling of The Border. Jonathan, i want to move to another subject. Voting rights. The democrats suffered a big defeat this week, their s1, which gives you a sense of the emphasis they were putting on that, the for the people act, went down to defeat. They didnt get any republican support to break a filibuster but then late in the week you had the attorney general, merrick garland, announcing that the Department Of Justice is suing the State Of Georgia. Take a look at garland here. Our complaint alleges that recent changes to Georgias Election laws were enacted with the purpose of denying or bridging the right of Black Georgians to vote on account of their race or color. Chris jonathan, given the fact that it looks like democrats are not going to be able to get any big Voting Reform Bill through congress, is this the way through the Department Of Justice lawsuits that theyll try to deal with the new Voting Laws, with different restrictions, new restrictions on voting that are being passed in Red States . Not really. Because firstly, its the eighth lawsuit against the georgia laws, theres already a bunch of lawsuits, actually less ambitious than some of them. This says the purpose of the law was discriminatory. Other suits say the purpose affected the law. You have a conservative Supreme Court thats probably going to he remain a conservative Supreme Court, maybe for the next couple of decades a. So basically whats happening is democrats are watching republicans at the State Level pass these Voting Laws in state after state and certainly move and introduce them in the wake of the 2020 election and theyre trying to figure out how to combat that. Theyre trying to pass sweeping federal legislation which you mentioned earlier. They just dont have the votes to overturn the filibuster which is what they need to do to get that passed. So obviously theyre also pursuing legal strategy but its going to take a long time and its probably not going to get the result they want with the current composition of the Supreme Court. Chris ive got about 30 seconds, dana. Georgias secretary of State Brad Raffensperger who pushed back hard on donald trumps claims of Vote Fraud in georgia, he says hes looking forward to meeting the feds in court on this lawsuit and beating the feds in court on this lawsuit. Yeah, democrats might actually end up codifying some of the things that are in the law, Voter Id would be one of those things. There are some things i think that State Legislators across the country will pay attention to. Make sure the bills will pass constitutional Muster Or Youll have a challenge like this in the courts. Chris thank you, panel. See you next sunday. Up next, our Power Player of the week, a former cia secret Ops Leader hit with a mysterious illness and pushing for justice. Life. Doesnt stop for diabetes. 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Chris a former Cia Officer on the invisible attack that ended his 26year career. My life was endangered numerous time. Chris he was can chief of operations in europe and eurasia. In december of 2017, he was on a trip to moscow. Weve the darkest days of the cold war, the cia and the kgb would meet. Chris did you think it was dangerous for you to go to moscow . No, not in the least. Chris one night in his Hotel Room he awoke with a start. The room was spinning and i lost control. I had ringing in my ears and a Splitting Headache and so it was a really traumatic experience. Chris back at the cia, his condition kept getting worse. By early 2018, i also had developed Brain Fog and i also lost my you long distance vision. So i was going to see multiple doctors and really i was almost unable to go to work whatsoever. Chris he thought he had havana syndrome, a mysterious illness first seen in u. S. Diplomats living in cuba who were suddenly struck with similar symptoms. What kind of help did you get from the cia medical office. I call it a moral injury. Ultimately, the senior cia medical staff throughout 2018 and 2019 really didnt believe me that anything had happened to he me. Chris at the peak of his career, he retired. I think i was involved in every covert Action Program in the Middle East for two decades. I always did so knowing that the cia would have my back if i was 1kwr578d up, if jammed up if something happened to me and they didnt do it. Chris last year he went public with his story and after years of asking he finally got treatment at Walter Reed national military center. The doctors diagnosed me with a traumatic brain injury. I have a Path Forward and i have some tools that can really help me and it changed my life. Chris part of that path, art therapy, painting masks. Its superman with an Ice Pick going through it which signifies the headache. I carved in the cia seal, cracked in half. My Son And Daughter sent me texts saying dad, youre still our superman. Chris how do you think you were attacked . I think its a mobile directed energy weapon. We know the russians have had this for years. Chris how should this country respond to these attacks . We have to detect, deter and disrupt this and hold those accountable. I will keep speaking out because i owe this to my colleagues who are on the tip of the spear and who really are being affected by this. Chris he is out with a new book on leadership called clarity in crisis. He says writing it has been part of his healing process. And thats it for today. Have a great week and well see you next Fox News sunday. Office. Bye, guys pete go to church. Pete go to church. Maria good Sunday Morning, everyone. Thanks so much for joining us, welcome to Sunday Morning futures. Im maria bartiromo. Today, the doj gets political. Suing the State Of Georgia over its Election Law even as as many at 14 states right now are changing their own laws to clean up potential fraud and irregularities. Coming up, the Founder And President of america first legal, stephen miller, on the merits of the doj case. Then, the finger pointing towards corporate america now,wa which companies are working with

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