Planned. To Casey Stegall ahead of the president s remarks. Yeah, neil. We expect the president s remarks within the hour. Its going to include a whole lot of stuff, specific plans and policies that he says are designed to help African American communities thrive in this country. Everything from Real Estate to businesses to education. The backdrop could not be more fitting than here in tulsa, oklahoma. The site of one of the worst if not the worst racial incidents of violence in u. S. History. 100 years ago. The Greenwood District known as black Wall Street up until 1921 when a White Mob attacked the neighborhood and burned almost everything to the ground. Almost 300 people died. A century later, theres still a handful of survivors. Were not all equal. So were all we should all be equal regardless of the color, the creed, anything. But were not. Thats a big change in my mind. Now, President Biden also met with some of those the survivors this afternoon while also touring the greenwood cultural center. Part of the plan to be announced shortly is to reinvest in what are called underserved communities. The president says they want to expand access to homeownership and small Business Ownership as well. Neil . Casey stegall. Thanks very much. So is this coming at a time that the administration recognizes could be too little too late . They are going to make up for that time. Ben carson, the former secretary of Housing And Urban Development with us right now. Secretary, always great to have you. The administration is saying this is long overdue, that is were trying to level the Playing Field for blacks and others who have been behind the eight ball when it comes to getting Mortgage Lending, Business Recognition and a whole host of other things. What do you think . It was a topic of discussion in the previous administration and we made a lot of progress. I dont think that it really does any good to sit there and say we did better than you did. We have to build on what each administration previously has done. When you look at what happened the last 100 years, theres been a vast improvement. Is there still room for more . Absolutely. When were talking about making more grants available for small and disadvantaged businesses in the community, im all for that. As long as we dont attach a particular Race Or Color to it. Lets deal with those that are disadvantaged, those that are small, those that have lack of opportunity. Thats what this country is about. Providing opportunities for people. The one argument that the president will make, secretary, is that by almost all the numbers, at least the conventional numbers, mortgage application, approval, you know, homeownership, African Americans in general trail, substantially trail white homeowners and potential homeowners. Do you agree that theres a problem there or is this a statistical anomaly . There is definitely a problem there, particularly when were dealing with Wealth And Wealth gaps. Homeownership is the key factor. The average Net Income of a renter is 5,000 Net Worth. The Net Worth of a homeowner is 200,000, a 40 fold difference. We should be look at what are the reasons that discrepancy exists. You can throw money at it all you want. Weve been doing that. That hasnt helped what helped recently is creating a situation, a economic situation by having an appropriate Tax Structure and regulatory environment that caused businesses to blossom. There were so many businesses being created. They were looking for people to work. The black Unemployment Rate went down not to a tenyear low or 20year low but to the lowest its ever been. The wellgap was starting to be filled. What that tells you, the way you fix that, create the right environment. You dont grow government and throw more programs at it. Neil so depending what we hear out of the president , hes not been short on spending. To what he says turn an economy around and move us in the right direction. By the latest math, his budget, a 6 Trillion plus budget. Im wondering. He says the difference with his and his plans is he pays for them. Do you think a, that he does pay for them and b, do you think we need that spending . I certainly wish we did have a way to pay for them. Theyre going to fall on the laps of our children and grandchildren, the people that are following us. Thats why Thomas Jefferson wisely said that it is immoral to steal from future generations. Yes neil wasnt your old boss doing that . Im not casting political aspersions. A bipartisan buying binge. Theres no question. As you may recall when i was running for president , that was a big deal for me, talking about deficit spending. What we are doing for those in our future. Doesnt matter who does it, republican or democrat. Its the wrong thing to do. We Cant Use what one did as an excuse to put it on steroids for the next group. We need to start thinking about all of our people what we need to do for them. Neil so when we look at the spending coming up and the administration is saying youre making investments here, particularly in the Housing Area for minorities and the Rising Tide will left all of those votes, do you believe that . We have seen that it does. We also ought to be looking at some of the real reasons the Wealth Gap exists. The Brookings Institute did a good study on poverty. There were three or four things that people could reduce their poverty to 2 or less. That should perk our ears up. Number 1, finish high school. Number 2, get married, number 3, get a job. Number 4, wait until youre married to have children. Do those things, youre unlikely to live in poverty and more likely to be able to realize the american dream. Our policies should be aimed at things like that, not at just throwing money at people without providing the appropriate background in order to use it correctly. Case in point, were all familiar with the stories of people who win the lottery. 60 of them end up worse than they were before. So when you just throw money at a problem without really understanding what youre doing, youre not necessarily doing people a favor. And i think a lot of people in the Minority Community say get out of our way. Lets have a flattening of opportunity so were all on an even playing ground and stop trying to manipulate us and manipulate everything that we do. Neil ben carson, very good catching up with you. Thanks for talking with us. Some of the survivors, yes, there are survivors of the tulsa attacks a century ago hearing from President Biden Today about Belatedly Making Rights from wrongs including increasing Government Contracts for a small minority businesses and expanding loans and new opportunities in the Mortgage Arena where black acceptance of mortgages is running an 1 8 what it does for whites. The president with a large financial commitment to say we can turn this around. Well also take a considerable amount of time. When he speaks, well go there. I also want to update you on a cyber attack. A few weeks ago, we had colonial pipeline and that led to a runup in gas and related prices. Now jbs, the big beef processer. Not a lot of the companies operations are online and wiped out a number of systems that control Meat And Meat prices. Were told as well that the target was the Meat Processers or this one in specifically and 1 5 of the u. S. Beef capacity has been wiped out by this attack. 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Neil going live to Oklahoma City now to hear the president speak. Racial progress has been kept back for decades all leading back to the event. The president hopes to correct a lot of that by evening the Playing Field for minorityowned businesses, for those seeking mortgages and a host of systems in place to help businesses not only thrive the African American community but thrive in the very place that they were burned. This is one survivor of the horror a century ago. To stop a mob there breaking into the jail and lynching a black teenager named dick roman. Sparking the backlash, which ended in the grievous massacre. My family worked to get these changes against j. B. Dropped posthumously. I know how lucky i am to have this passed down from generations. Just as there are survivors, still with us today from this tragic event, the mentality of the mob to declare that there would never again be another black Wall Street in tulsa, that mentality also still survives in many institutions and fortunately in many peoples hearts. Today we welcome president Joe Biden here to stand beside us as we continue the fight for justice, for the survivors and descendants of the tulsa massacre. He understands as a nation that we are and we must be strong enough to confront the dark period of our history with a bold agenda of equity, repair and healing. J. B. Stratford died without seeing justice for crimes against him and his community. Im sure well see justice In My Lifetime thanks to the efforts of all of you here joining us today. Now i introduce to you president Joe Biden. [applause] thank you, please, if you have a seat, sit down. I just had to make sure that the two girls got Ice Cream with us. Imagine how excited youd be if youre 4, 5, almost 5 years old coming to hear a president speak. My lord. My faith we call that purgatory. [laughter] lauren, thank you for that gracious introduction. In case youre wondering, in delaware were a small start. We have the eighth largest black population in america. We have one of the most talented members of congress. So if i didnt walk around and pay my tribute to lisa blunt rochester, my congresswoman [applause] how are you . Good to see you. Wee have a distinguished group of people here. I want to thank lauren for sharing the powerful story and for helping the country understand what is happening here. And to all of the decendents here today and to the community and civil rights leaders and members of the Congressional Black Caucus that are here. Thank you for making sure that we all remember, we never forget. You know, theres a verse in first corinthians that says for now we see dimly. Face to face, now i know part that i shall know fully. I just toured the hall of survivors here in greenwood cultural center. I want to thank the staff for hosting us here. [applause] if i didnt say what my father insisted on, please excuse my back. I apologize. But the tour the tour i met mother randall, who is only 56 years old. God love her. And Mother Fletcher who is 67 years old. And her brother, van ellis, who is 100 years old. He looks like hes 60. Thank you for spending so much time with me. I mean it. It was a great honor, a genuine honor. Youre the three known remaining survivors of a story seen here. No longer, now your story will be known in full view. The events we speak of today took place 100 years ago. Yet im the first president in 100 years ever to come to tulsa. [applause] i say that not as a compliment about me, but to think about it. 100 years. The first president to be here during that entire time. And this place, this ground to acknowledge the truth, what took place here. For much too long, the history of what took place here was told in silence. Cloaked in darkness. Just because history is silent, it doesnt mean it did not take place. While darkness can hide much, It Erases nothing. It erases nothing. So injustices are so heinous, so horrific, so grievous that they cant be buried no matter how hard people try. So it is here only, only with truth can come Healing And Justice and repair, only with truth. Facing it. That isnt enough. First we have to see, hear and give respect to mother randall, Mother Fletcher and mr. Van ellis. [applause] all those lost so many years ago. For all the decendents of those that covered, for this community. Thats why were here, to shine a light, to make Sure America knows the story in full. May 1921, formerly enslaved black people and their decendents are in tulsa. A boom town. A new frontier. On the North Side across the rail tracks that divided the city already segregated by law, they built something open their own. Worry of their talent and their ambition. Greenwood. A community, a way of life. Black doctors and lawyers, pastors, teachers, running hospitals, law practices, churches, schools. Black veterans like a man that i had the privilege of giving a Command Coin to. Volunteered and fought and came how many and still faced prejudice. [applause] veterans coming back after helping win the first World War. Building a new life back home with pride an confidence. A Mom And Pop black diners, Grocery Stores, barber shops, tailors, things that make up a community. At the dream land theater, a young black couple holding hands. Friends gathers at music clubs and Pool Halls at the Monroe Family Roller skating rink. Victors, staying in hotels like the stratford. All around black pride shared by the professional class and the Working Class who lived together side by side for blocks on end. Mother randall was just six years old. Six years old. Living with her grand mom. She said she was lucky to have a home and toys and fortunate to live without fear. Mother fletcher was 7 years old, the second of seven children. The youngest being mr. Van ellis. He was just a few months old. The children, former share croppers. When they went to bed at night, Mother Fletcher said they fell asleep rich in terms of the wealth, a wealth in culture, community and heritage. One night [applause] one night changed everything. Greenwood was a community to itself, it was not separated from the outside. It wasnt everyone but there was enough hate, Resentment And Vengeance in the community. Enough people believe that america does not belong to everyone and not everyone is created equal. Native americans, Asian Americans, hispanic americans, black americans, a belief enforced by law, by badge, by hood and by noose. Speaks that lit the fuse, lit it and a spark that it provided. A fuse of fury. It was an innocent interaction that turned into an a terrible Headline Allegation of a black male, teenager attacking a white female teenager. White mob of 1,000 gathered around the courthouse where the black teenagers were being held. They lynched that young man that night. 75 black men including black veterans arrived to stand guard. Words were exchanged and then a scuffle and then a shot. Torches and guns, shooting at will. A mob Tied A Black Man by the waist to the black of their truck with his head bangs on the pavement. A murdered black family dropped over the fence of their home outside. A lonely couple knelt by their bed. Private planes dropping explosives, the first and only domestic aerial assault of its kind on an american city here in tulsa. Nearly two dozen churches burned like mount zion, across the street at ame. Mother randall said it was like a war. Mother fletcher said all of these years later, she still sees black bodies around. Greenwood newspaper publisher, a. J. Smitherman penned a poem of what he heard and felt that night. Heres the poem. He said kill them, burn them, set the pace, teach them how to keep their place, rain of murder, Theft And Plunder was the order of the night. Thats what he remembers from the poem that he wrote. 100 years ago at this hour on this first day of june, smoke, dark in the tulsa sky. Rising from 35 blocks of greenwood, that were left in Ash And Amber raised in rubble. Less than 24 hours, less than 24 hours, 1,100 black homes and businesses were lost. Insurance companies they had insurance. Many of them rejected claims of damage. 10,000 people were left destitute and homeless. Placed in interment camps. As i was told today, dont ever mention you were in a camp or well come and get you. Thats what survivors told me. Yet No One no arrest of the mob were made. None. No proper accounting of the dead. The Death Toll records by local officials said there were 36 people. Thats all. 36 people. Based on studies, records and accounts, the likelihood, likely number is in the multiple of hundreds. Im told bodies dumped into mass graves. Families at the time waited for hours and days to know the fate of their Loved Ones are now decendents that have gone 100 years without cloture. You know, as we speak, the process of exhuming the unmarked graves has started. And at this Moment Id like to pause for a moment of silence for the fathers, mothers, the sisters, sons and daughters, Friends Of God and greenwood. They deserve the dignity and deserve our respect. Maybe their Souls Rest in peace. My fellow americans, this is not a riot. This was a massacre. [applause] among the worst in our history. But not the only one. For too long for gotten by our history, as soon as it happened, there was a clear effort to erase it from our memory. Our collective memories. From the news and every day conversations. For a long time schools in tulsa didnt teach it let alone schools elsewhere. Most people didnt realize a century ago, the second Ku Klux klan had been founded, The Second Clan was founded. A friend of mine, john meachem, when i said i was running to restore The Soul Of America, he wrote a book called The Soul Of America not because of what i said. A picture about page 160 in the book showing over 30,000 Ku Klux klan members in full regalia, pointed hats marching down Pennsylvania Avenue in washington d. C. Jesse, you know about this. Washington d. C. If my memory is correct, there were 37 members of the house of remembers that were open members of the klan. There were five, could have been seven, members of the u. S. Senate open members of the klan. Multiple governors were open members of the klan. Most people didnt realize it the klan was found six years before the horrific destruction here in tulsa. One of the reasons why it was founded was because of guys like me are catholic. It wasnt about African Americans. It was about making sure that all of those polish and irish and italian and eastern European Catholics that came to the united states would not pollute christianity. Flames from those burning crosses torched every region of the country. Millions of White Americans belonged to the klan. They werent even embarrassed by it. They were proud of it. That hate became embedded systematically and systemically in our laws and our culture. We do ourselves no favors by pretending none of this ever happened. It does still impact us today. We cant just choose to learn what we want to know. And not what we should know. [applause] we should know the good, the bad, everything. Thats what great nations do. They come to terms with their dark sides. Were a great nation. The only way to build a common ground is to truly repair and to rebuild. I come here to helpful the silence because in silence wounds deepen. And only as painful as is in remembrance do wounds heal. We just have to choose to remember. Memorialize what happened here in tulsa. So it can be so it cant be erased. We know here this hallowed played, we cant bury Pain And Trauma forever. At some point, there will be a reckoning, an Inflection Point like were facing right now as a nation. Many people hadnt seen before, simply refuse to see, cannot be ignored any longer. You see it in so many places. Theres great recognition that for too long, weve allowed a narrow cramped view of the promise of this nation to fester. The view that america is a zero sum game. Where theres only one winner. If you succeed, i fail. If you get ahead, i fall behind. If you get a job, i lose mine. Maybe worst of all, if i hold you down, i lift myself up. Instead of if you do well, we all do well. We see that in greenwood. [applause] a story about the loss of Life And Prosperity that still reverberates today. Mother Fletcher Talks about how she was only able to attend school to the Fourth Grade and found work in the shipyards. Mr. Van ellis detailed how enlisting and serving in World War ii, he still came home to struggle with a segregated america. Imagine the hotels and diners a and Mom And Pop shops that could have been passed down this 100 years. Imagine what could have basketball done for black families in greenwood. Financial security and generational wealth. The working Class Family is the only way we were ever able to generate wealth, the equity in our homes. Maybe what they contributed then and what they could have contributed all of these years. Imagine the thriving greenwood the last 100 years. That was for all of tulsa. While the people rebuild, it didnt last. Eventually neighborhood wheres redlined on maps. Blocking black tulsa out of homeownerships. The highway was built through the heart of the community. I was talking about the west side, 95 did after we were occupied by the military after dr. King was murdered. The Community Cutting off black families from job and opportunity. Chronic and state federal governments denied greenwood the chance of rebuilding. [applause] must find the courage to change the things that we know we can change. Thats what Vice President harris and i are focused on. Along with our entire administration including our housing and urban Development Secretary Marsha flood who is here today. [applause] today were announcing two expanded efforts targeted to black Wealth Creation that will also help to entire community. The first is my administration is launched an aggressive effort to combat racial discrimination in housing. That includes everything from redlines to the cruel fact that a home owned by a black family is not similarly appraised as one owned by a white family. [applause] i might add and i need help answering this, but i Cant Figure it out, congressman, but if you live in a black community and theres another one on the other side of the highway a white community built by the same builder and you have a better Driving Record than the guy with the same car in the white community, you pay more for your auto insurance. Shockingly, the percentage of Black American Homeownership is Lower Today in america than when the fair Housing Act was passed more than 50 years ago. Lower today. Thats wrong. Were committed to changing that. Just imagine we made it possible for them to buy a home and build equity into that home and provide for their families. Second, small businesses are the engines of our economy and the glue of our communities. As president , my administration oversees hundreds of billions in federal contracts, everything in Refurbishing Decks of Aircraft Carriers to installing railings in federal buildings to professional services. Im determined to use every Taxpayer Dollar that is assigned to me to spend going to american companies and american workers to build american products and as part of that, im going to increase the share of the dollars the federal government spends to small disadvantaged businesses including black and brown small businesses. Right now calls for 10 and move that to 15 of every dollar spent in america. [applause] just imagine, instead of denying millions of entrepreneurs, making it possible to take their dreams to the marketplace to create jobs and invest in our communities. The data shows young black entrepreneurs are just as capable of succeeding given the chance as white entrepreneurs are. But they dont have lawyers, accountants. They have great idea. Does anybody else doubt in the investment . I promise you set up the national small Business Administration that is broader. Because theyre going to get those loans. Instead of to underresourced schools. Lets give each and every child three and four years old access to school, not day care, school. [applause] the last ten years studies have been done by the great universities that shows that increased by 56 the possibility of a child No Matter What background that they come from. No matter what. If they start school at three years old, they have a 56 chance of going through all 12 years without any trouble. Being able to do well. A chance to learn and grow and thrive in a school and throughout their lives. Lets unlock more than an incredible Creativity And Innovation that will come from the nations historically black colleges and universities. [applause] i have a 5 Billion program. Giving them the resources to invest in research centers and laboratories and high demand fields to compete for good paying jobs in a future like cyber security. Their students can learn as well and start 90,000 and 100,000. They dont have the money to build those laboratories. So guess what . Theyre going to get the money to build those laboratories. [applause] instead of just talking about infrastructure, lets talk about the business of actually rebuilding roads and highways. Filling the sidewalks and cracks, installing Street Lights and high speed internet, creating space to work and play safely. Lets ensure access to clean water, clean air, nearby Grocery Stores stocked with fresh vegetables and foods. These are all things that we can do. Does anyone doubt this whole nation would be better off with these investments . The rich will be just as well off. The middle class will do better and everybody will do better. Its about good paying jobs, financial stability. Being able to build some generational wealth. Its about economic growth for our country. Outcompeting the rest of the world, which is now outcompeting us. Just as fundamental as any of these investments that i discussed, this may be the most fundamental. The right to vote. The right to vote. [applause] a lot of the members of the black caucus knew John Lewis than i did. But i knew him. On his death bed, i called john to speak to him. All john wanted to do is talk about how i was doing. He died i think about 25 hours later. But you know what john said . He called the right to vote precious, almost sacred. He said the most powerful nonviolent tool we have in a democratic society, this sacred right is under assault with incredible intensity that ive never seen even though i got started as a public rights lawyer. An intensity we have not seen in a long, long time. Its simply unamerican. Its not, however, sadly, unprecedented. We shall overcome, a long time main stay of the civil rights movement. Jesse jackson can tell you better than anybody. The obstacles that have to be overcome are a constant challenge. We saw it in the 60s. With the current assault is not just an echo of a distant history, in 2020 we faced restrictive laws, lawsuits, threats of intimidation, voter purges and more. More americans voted in the last election than any in the midst of a pandemic in any election in american history. [applause] we got voters registered. We got voters to the polls. The Rule Of Law held. Democracy prevailed. We overcame. Let me be unequivocal. Ive been engaged in this work and were going to ramping up our efforts to overcome again. I will have more to say about this in a later date, the unprecedented assault on our democracy. An effort to replace nonpartisan Collection Administrators and intimidate those challenging the results. Today as for the act of voting itself, i urge Voting Rights Groups in this country to begin to redouble their efforts now to register and educate voters. In june [applause] in june will be a month of action on capitol hill. I hear all of the folks on Tv Saying why doesnt biden get this done . Because biden only has the majority of effectively four votes in the house and a tie in the senate. With two members of the senate that vote more with my republican friends. But were not giving up. Earlier this year, the House Of Representatives passed for the people act to protect our democracy. The senate will take it up later this month and im going to fight like heck with every tool in my disposal for its passage. The house is also working in the John Lewis voting Rights Act, which is critical to providing new legal tools to combat the assault on the right to vote. Signify the importance of our efforts today, im asking Vice President harris to help these efforts and lead them among her many other responsibilities. With her leadership and your support, we will overcome again but it will take a lot of work. Finally, we have to we must address what remains a stain on The Soul Of America. What happens in greenwood was an act of hate and domestic terrorism. The through line that exists today still. Just close your eyes. Remember what you saw in charlottesville four years ago on television. Neonazis, white supremacists, the k. K. K. Coming out of the fields at night in virginia with lighted torches, the veins bulging as they are were screaming. Just remember. Picture it. Mother fletcher said when she saw the insurrection at the capitol on january 9, it broke her heart. A mob of violent white extremists, thugs. Said reminded her of what happened here in greenwood 100 years ago. Look around at the various Hate Crimes against Asian Americans and jewish americans. Hate that never goes away. Hate only hides. Jesse, i think i mentioned this to you. I thought after you guys pushed through with dr. King, the voting Rights Act and the civil Rights Act, i thought we moved. What i didnt realize, i thought we made enormous progress and so proud to be a little part of it. But you know what, rev . I didnt realize hate is never defeated. It only hides. It hides. Given a little bit of oxygen, a little bit of oxygen by its leaders, it comes out from under the rock like it was happening again. Never went away. Folks, we can, we must not give hate a safe harbor. As i said in my address to the joint session of congress, according to the intelligence community, terrorism from white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the homeland today. Not isis, not alquaida, white supremacists. Thats not me. Thats the intelligence community. [applause] under both trump and under my administration. Two weeks ago i signed in to law the Covid19 Hate crimes act that the House And Senate passed. My administration will lay out our broader strategy to counter domestic terrorism and the violence with Hate Crimes and other forms of bigotry. Im going to close where i started. To mother randall, Mother Fletcher, mr. Van ellis, to the decendents and all survivors, thank you. Thank you for giving me the honor of spending some time with you earlier today. Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your commitment. Thank your children and your grandchildren and your nieces and nephews. To see and learn from you is a gift. A genuine gift. Dr. John hope franklin, one of americas greatest historians, tulsas proud son whose father was a Greenwood Survivor said and i quote whatever you do, it must be done in the spirit of good will and mutual respect and even love. How else can we overcome the past and be worthy of our forbearers and face the future with Confidence And Hope . On this sacred and solemn day, may we find that distinctly greenwood spirit that defines the american spirit, the spirit that gives me so much Confidence And Hope for the future. Helps us see Face To face the spirit, helps us knee fully who we are and who we can be. Thats the people as a nation. Ive never been more optimistic about the future than i am today. I mean that. The reason is because of this new generation of young people, theyre the best educated, this least prejudiced, the most open generation in american history. Although i have no scientific basis for what im about to say, but those of you over 50, how often did you ever see how often did you see advertisements with Black And White couples . Not a joke. I challenge you, find today when you turn on the stations, Sit On One station for two hours, i dont know how many commercials youll see, eight to five, two to three out of five have mixed race couples in them. Thats not by accident. Theyre selling soap, man. [laughter] its not a joke. Remember old remember what is happening in American Culture . Watch advertising. They want to seal what they have. We have hope. Folks like you, i mean it. We have hope. We have to give them support. We have got to give them the backbone to do what we know has to be done. I thought any of you would be here if you didnt care deeply about this. Sure you didnt come to hear me speak. I mean it. I really mean it. Lets not give up, man. Lets not give up. As the old saying goes, hope springs eternal. I know we talked a lot about famous people behind my colleagues in the senate used to kid me because i was always quoting irish poets. They think i did that because im irish. We irish have a chip on our should sometimes. Thats not why i did it. I did it because theyre the best poets in the world. You can smile. Its okay. A famous poet, theres a stanza of what i think should be our Call Today for young people. He said history teaches us not to hope on this side of the grave, but then once in a lifetime that long Tidal Wave of justice rises up and hope and history rhyme. Lets make it rhyme. [applause] neil you been listening to President Biden. This 100th Anniversary of the Tulsa Race Massacre that stands of one of the most brutal in american history. As painful as it is quoting president , only in remembrance do wounds heal. With we have to choose to remember what happened here so it cant be erased. The president outlining new measures to narrow what he calls a serious racial Wealth Gap including providing more federal grants for smaller minority businesses and initiatives to address the inequality Mortgage Lending right down to home appraisals. Hes reversed a number of Trump Era rules that he said were getting in the way of that kind of progress. Lets very view this with Kon Bevin from real clear politicians and denine here and marjorie clifton. Tom, we dont have a break down on the cost of these initiatives. We know the federal government carries a big lever when it comes to Prioritizing Project in this case that will boost Minority Lending initiatives. How do you think this will go . Well, i dont know. Joe biden talked about we had too long had this narrow i have of a zero sum. I win, you losetype of thing. He talked more in terms of Rising Tide lifts all votes. Thats the sort of the republican philosophy. Joe biden is now employing it, but employing it in the sense that the government is the one going to lift the tide by all of the spending, and all of this investment. Hes going to do what he can to shrink the racial Wealth Gap. Historically speaking, its not worked out that well but thats what biden is proposing now. Neil he acknowledged as much when he talked about the progress on homeownership. Im generalizing here. With all the money thats been spent, its lower now statistically than it was. Im just wondering if he accidentally stumbled upon an issue that critics will raise . If money were the answer, we would have an even Playing Field. We dont. What do you think . Sure, neil. Let me just say that what happened in oklahoma was absolutely a tragic event, and americans must learn our history to not repeat it. I got to tell you, and im being sincerely honest here, President Biden is a propagandaist and hypocrite, period. Kamala harris took his head off during a debate. Everyone knows that. The man supported segregation as early on in his political career to get an upper leg. James e. Flynn, herman tallmadge, he supported George Wallace who blocked the doorway for black children to enter a school. George wallace when segregation today, tomorrow, forever. He also supported robert byrd, the former Majority Leader in the senate, a klansman. Grand cyclops, whatever it means to get that title. Joe biden is a hypocrite and a propagandist. Too bad that audience does not know that. Neil if you look at his most recent actions, the overall career, i would respectfully disagree with that. Hes been in politics a long time and has not done anything for black americans. Neil marjorie, let me step back and look at how likely it is that any of this stuff comes to pass. Hes got a very pricy infrastructure package. 6 Trillion budget. Can he get this done . Yeah, what he can calling for is a transformative view of how we approach these issues. The steps like acknowledging the massacre happened and talking about how we repair what has happened and interrupt systems that are creating barriers to black americans in a disproportionate way to White Americans. So i think the question is, are people willing to invest to shift away from what has become cyclical poverty, which is cyclical devaluation of homes and things that are creating unnecessary barriers. So it depends how you look at investing. Do you look at it in terms of outcomes in the longterm. Neil right. Still early on. Right . To his point, acknowledging that a lot of the money that has been spent to address poverty to dealing with the poor in general, spent a lot of money here and we still have poverty and still have the poor and still have problems. He wanted to put a stop to that. Whether this is that answer or a step in that direction, went dough know. The five is now. Jesse hello, everybody, i am Jesse Watters with dagen mcdowell, sandra smith, and greg gutfeld. 5 00 in new York City and this is the five. Notice anything different . The five in studio and boy, does it feel strange. No more remote set ups, no more to second delays, we are back here