building or something. they didn't have guns, but a lot of them had extremely dangerous ideas. talk about the constitution, or something called their rights. some of them made openly seditious claims. they insisted that the last election wasn't fair. the whole thing was terrifying. and then, they committed unspeakable acts of violence. by the time thousands of soldiers arrived to restore order, on unarmed air force veteran lay dead. to that day, that woman is the one verified casualty, the only death we can say definitively was caused by specific events on january 6th. we know how she died. the funny thing is, you almost never hear that woman 's name. possibly that is because she was not a democratic member of congress or even a job biter bi. when you are fighting insurrectionist, you don't have to explain yourself. you just hyperventilate about qanon and then you do whatever you want. when they show up at your office, you don't have to listen to their complaints. not for a second. why would you? you listening to people's complaint was democracy? no, these people threaten democracy. you could even shoot one of them if you want to get away with it. killing people without extending yourself is an established part of counterinsurgency. and if you don't believe it, check out what happened in the second world war. >> president franklin roosevelt set aside december 7th, 1941 as a day that will live in infamy. unfortunately, we can now add january 6th, 20 or tell mark 2021 to that very short list of dates in american history that e forever in infamy. >> tucker: january 6th was pearl harbor, says senate majority leader, chuck schumer. he has never really gotten appropriate credit for the grandeur of that statement considering the very next day after pearl harbor, we entered the second world war. that war went on for four years. more than 100,000 americans died. but that was the cost of stopping fascism. we don't yet know the cost of stopping white supremacist qanon insurrection. but you can be certain that chuck schumer is prepared to have you pay whatever it costs. until late last month, the man called michael sherwin worked for the administration as a prosecutor in washington. he brags that his office had rounded up about 400 people who were in or near the capital ungenerous six. you may be wondering, did 400 people really commit serious crimes that day? well, that depends how you define crime. listen to michael sherwin 's definition. >> we had inauguration on the 20th. so, i wanted to ensure at our office wanted to ensure that we could charge as many people as possible before the 20th, and it worked because we saw through media posts that people were afraid to come back to d.c. because they are like, if we go there, we are going to get charged. we wanted to take all those individuals that essentially were thumbing their noses at the public for what they did. >> tucker: oh, so now it's clear. it wasn't that 400 people broke actual laws. no, their crime says the federal prosecutor was "thumbing their noses at the public, meaning the democratic party. so, it wasn't really an insurrection pier the problem was that they show disrespect to joe biden and his enforcers like michael sherwin and that can happen anymore. that is why michael sherwin decided to use shock and ought to teach them a very nasty lesson about accessing their political opinions to the public. "the scope and scale of this investigation are really on precedent, not only in fbi history, but possibly -- well" and he may be right. how big and how serious is this investigation was for mark so serious that the fbi has stopped investigating other crimes and not minor crimes. according to usa, investigators who typically work cases including the trafficking of drugs, child pornography and sex -- oh, so in order to stop people who might express on acceptable political ideas in washington, d.c., we are not going after people who self retinal, for example to over 100,000 americans or child pornography. they won't be punished. so, were these people who are being pursued in lieu of tracking down dealers? was response of a question mark, people like anthony alfred griffin. he didn't throw firebombs at police cars. he did something worse than that. here is what he did. "he walked into the u.s. capitol building through the open doors on january 6th telling the agency did not see any police officers as he entered the building. he then went to a nearby office where he interacted with some individuals before exiting the building. however, he reentered the u.s. capitol building again a short time later, where he meandered through the hallways and took a few photos." he meandered through the hallways, if you can imagine. and for that act of terrorism, anthony griffith faces 7 years in prison. prosecutor, michael sherman is fine with that. at one point in his "60 minutes" interview, he was asked about bringing sedition charges against the people he arrests here people who meander. well, of course, sure, why not. >> sedition occurs when anyone opposes by force the authority of the united states or by force hinders or delays the execution of any law of the united states who you anticipate sedition charges against some of these suspects. >> i believe the facts do support those charges. and i think that as we go forward, more facts will support that, scott. >> tucker: yeah, meandering is sedition, says michael. now, just for reference, federal prosecutors typically are not supposed to reveal their partisan lunatics on television. his comments were so grotesquely out of line that a federal judge appointed by barack obama so that he was considering issuing a gag order to make michael sherwin be quiet. stop saying the quiet part out loud. just order of the doj to start distinguishing between actual criminals and people who walk through open doors inside the capitol building. that ruling came after the doj so that two codefendants, dominic should face indefinite n here neither lisa eisenhardt nor her son damaged either property at the capital or committed any violence. they just walked in to what we used to refer to as the people's house. and yet somehow, joe biden's department of justice is convinced that she was a "threat to our republic" and that her son was a would-be murderer. these are people whose crime was trespassing in the capital. we are not endorsing that. it took a ruling from the d.c. circuit court of appeals to bring that perspective. "two individuals who did not engage in any violence and were not involved in planning or coordinating that activity seemingly would pose little threat. yet, seemingly. but the judges still do not release eric or his mother, lisa eisenhardt. that is how much power federal prosecutors have. they can keep you in prison even when a judge concludes there is no reason for you to be in prison. that is probably why prosecutors still have not as of tonight released a man called jacob, otherwise known as the chewbacca guy. you may remember him. jacob is not accused of committing any act of violence. he is not accused of breaking any property. so what exact we did he do? well, we can actually answer that question because it's on video. >> hey! [bleep] glad to see you guys. look at the sky. god bless you. do you need any medical attention? >> i got shot in the face with some sort of plastic bullet. stick okay. i just want to let you guys know. >> tucker: yeah, he's a threat to the republic, that american flag and all. chewbacca guy is still in jail. he will be there indefinitely. think about what that is actually like. you don't want to think about it. tonight we learned the number of people arrested on january 6 are still rotting in the d.c. jail municipal lockup. that is one of the foulest places in this country, a truly repulsive and mismanaged place. what would you do not to be thrown into the jail? it is that bad. some of the people held on january 6, have been beaten, not surprisingly by guards, or beaten badly. lawyers from one man, a man called ryan says that he was beaten by guards so badly he has a skull fracture and is now blind in one eye. how many antifa or blm can say that? as a group, they didn't spend much time in jail actually. politicians like kamala harris helped them pay to get out. authorities released a terrorism suspect in oklahoma called eric after black lives matter posted his $750,000 bond. according to authorities, he "encouraged others to burn in oklahoma county sheriff's ban and oklahoma city's bail bonds. it was destroyed. he had $850,000 in damage from broken windows. but eric christopher ruffin went home and he went home for one reason. unlike the chewbacca guy, he did not upset the people in charge. he didn't walk in their sacred chamber and talk about liberty and rights. he just tried to vaporize some police vehicles. he has fined tonight. he hasn't lost his eyesight getting a beating. this kind of thing, unequal treatment under the law is on stark display across the country right now. we could spend an hour giving you examples. here are a couple. on saturday, emergency coronavirus bill stabbed a elderly asian woman to death. she was in jail for a very serious crime. she was accused of assault with a deadly weapon. but is that really serious as meandering to the capitol building? no. come on. so, she got to walk out of jail. in december, a new york judge released a suspect called benjamin, just in time for him to allegedly stab a woman in the stomach. jordan benjamin then got out of jail again. again. meanwhile, in the city of detroit, a judge decided to release 4 felons who have been convicted of assault. the judge said that the coronavirus justify the release. according to prosecutors, one of those felons went out and raped two women. but it covers it. it happens too often to notice. but in march, one of those was caught on video. it was impossible to ignore. it happened in washington, d.c. two teenage girls carjacked and killed an immigrant driver called mohammed. a bunch of kids just trying to work. trying to make a buck. as he lay dying on the sidewalk, and this gives you a sense of where these girls are coming from, one of them complained that the real crisis was she couldn't find her cell phone. >> stop it! 's because she is stealing the car. we called the cops. they stole a car! they stole the car! hey, they stole the car. they stole the car! that's it. that's it. that's it. that's it. >> everybody step back! everybody step back from the car! >> tucker: so, you kill a guy who was just trying to work and then you can't even be bothered to notice that he died on the sidewalk because you are worried about your phone. there's a big problem with these girls. they are young for sure, but they did something awful. they are not being treated that way. they got a plea deal. they will be released as soon as they turn 21, maybe earlier. there is a good chance that chewbacca guy will spend more time in jail for trespassing with an american flag then the people who killed mohammed will spend for murder. and that's not an accident, actually. disproportionate treatment of crimes. the biggest threat is people who commit actual violence. you can use them. the biggest threat to you if you are an autocrat is people who mock you and don't take you seriously and sneer at you. you want them in prison. and they are putting you in prison. candace owens is the host. she joins us. it's rare to see you. you just can't help but notice, and this is once again for the 120th time, not an endorsement of trespassing or blowing past cops, or hitting cops or anything like that that happened on january 6th. however, if you are putting people in jail indefinitely for meandering through a building that all of us have a claim on in the capital and letting murderers go free, maybe your agenda isn't law and order or justice. >> yeah, of course their agenda is not law and order or justice. i can tell you specifically asked somebody who lived in washington, d.c., who lived in washington, d.c., over the last few years. during the summer, tucker, d.c. burned for 6 weeks since the george floyd protests. people who had private businesses were invaded. there was looting. there was rioting. you cannot go outside. we had to wonder, is our car going to be smashed? every day you woke up and there were more issues because democrats are basically saying, it's fine. black americans are allowed to run over and with a want because george floyd died in minnesota here what of those black americans get? they got a bunch of celebrities that were basically rallying to make sure they could get them out of prison. the mayor of d.c. actually painted an entire district, entire street, pardon of black lives. we now have a lack lives matter. they were awarded for their bad behavior. so, wondering why these young girls, they can go up to an uber driver and do the sort of thing on camera and they don't expect to get in trouble here we have a system that has told them they are not supposed to get in trouble because violence and anger is understandable if you are a black american. and you look at the capitol riots. i remember actually getting phone calls from my parents and saying are you okay customer what's going on, kansas? is every thing okay? they were watching the media and not realizing it didn't even register. on a scale of one of black lives matter, what happened in d.c. was virtually nothing. i could not believe the overreaction. also during the brett kavanaugh hearing, i was there. also absolute madness. what wasn't that called an insurrection customer and then we have rabid feminists chasing down. you want to talk about aoc saying ted cruz almost murdered me. what about all of those rabid feminists were hunting down people, storming. they were inside of his office saying this man, we cannot have brett kavanaugh. let me tell you, i'm a survivor. running after people into elevators. and yet, it was not called an insurrection. it was called, what? a mostly peaceful protest. we were just trying to vent their concerns about the direction in which america was going into. it is a double standard and it is a sinister double standard. what happened on january 6th, the fire happening all over again in america. democrats use it to consolidate power and to trample over the civil rights of half of the country. they want to make sure that they have no political adversaries going forward. >> tucker: amazing. i had actually forgotten about the brett kavanaugh moment. i not to keep score because i want to go insane. candace owens, ray to see you as always. so, you may have followed us from arkansas. the legislature sent a bill to the governor banning castration of children. he vetoed that bill and now that vito has been overridden by the legislature. the governor joins us in just a moment to explain why he vetoed that bill. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ i mean i know it's silly, but i have an image. ya know, 6 foot 5, 300 pounds. so the thought of getting a hearing aid, i was.. i was scared. for the last couple years i've been having real hearing loss. all i knew from the past was seeing folks with big things on their ears, so i didn't want to be that guy. one of the joys of my life is riding my motorcycle with my wife. if you're not confident riding a motorcycle, you could get in trouble. i would always have to turn, so i could hear better, that was a... that was bad. and i just kept fightin' it. with lively, did a hearing test on the computer. when they sent them in the mail they were already set up for me. the whole process was so simple. right away lively started working. my confidence is 100% boosted, it's night and day. this little thing right here, has made me whole again. a test in minutes, hearing aids in days, better hearing in no time. get started today at listenlively.com this thing works, ya know. i can hear again. want to save hundreds on your wireless bill? 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>> well, first of all, your teaser as you lead into this program did not accurately represent the bill. if this had been a bill that simply prohibited chemical castration, i would have signed the bill. but tucker come as you know, this bill was extreme. it went far beyond what you just said. and i it clear that this was about prohibiting procedures of sex reassignment surgery. absolutely, i would have signed that bill, but this was the first law in the nation that invokes the state between medical decisions, parents who consent to that and the decision of the patient. and so, this goes way too far. and in fact, it doesn't even have a grandfather clause that those young people that are under hormonal treatment -- >> tucker: if i could just correct you for a second. this is chemical castration, of course, if you stop puberty and suppress the sex hormones, you are chemically castrating. we are talking about miners, children here. there are all kinds of things in arkansas, kids in every state are not allowed to do. get married, drink a beer, get a tattoo. why do you think it's important for conservatives to make certain that children can block their puberty, b chemical castration customer why is that a conservative value, if you would tell us? because first of all, you have parents involved in very difficult decisions. you have positions that are involved in these decisions. and i go back to william buckley. i go back to ronald reagan. the possibles of our party, which believes in the limited role of government. are we, as a party abandoning a limited role of government and saying we are going to invoke the government decision-making over and above physicians come over and above health care come over and above parents and say u can't do that? >> tucker: how deeply have you studied this topic? with respect, it doesn't sound like you have studied it very deeply. i mean, this is an emerging field. there's not a lot of research. but the research that exists suggests the depression and the urge to self harm and suicide is a component. it's a side effect of taking these hormones. a study in the u.k. showed the overwhelming majority of kids come of children on puberty blocking hormones had the urge to hurt themselves. why is that responsible medicine to do that to children? why would you support something like that? >> actually reviewed some of that study. i reviewed the high court decision there and i think they are different than what you are talking about here. sure, there's a lot of unknowns here. i studied this bill and in contrast to what you just said, i spent a lot of time reviewing cases, meeting with people, listening to the experts as well as to faith leaders as well. and i'm a person of faith, but at the same time, i'm a person of limited role of government. i signed pro-life bills. i sign many bills that would be looked at as very conservative. but this is one that crosses the line. there is no need for it. >> tucker: i'm sorry, but hold on. you just said that you have seen research that shows the mental health of children who received puberty blocking drugs improves? what is that research exactly? >> well, the research that i've seen shows that these troubled youth, these ones that have gender dysphoria, that they also have depression. they have suicidal tendencies. it's a higher suicide rate than others. and they go to their parents. the parents go to doctors. and they try to deal with this very difficult issue. i don't think we should deny them health care. >> tucker: hold on. i'm sorry. you're the governor. you just vetoed this bill. you said you are familiar with the studies. no one disputes that children who are asking for puberty blocking drugs may be depressed. that seems very likely. i think the studies show it. cite one specific study that shows puberty blocking drugs improve the condition. does that make children less depressed? does it make them less likely to harm themselves or commit suicide? just name one study. the guy would refer you to the american academy of pediatrics. i will refer you to the physicians that came out in opposition to this bill, because they understood the risk to these young people. if you prohibit the medical care that this bill prohibits, then you're going to endanger these young people even further. so, i would -- >> tucker: how do we know that? this field barely existed 10 years ago? cases of gender dysphoria have increased by thousands% in the last decade. so actually, we can't know the answers to these questions. the research that we have suggests the opposite of what you're claiming. clearly you are not familiar with the research appeared and so, my question is have you spoken to any of the biggest employers, big companies in arkansas about this? have you taken any calls, from walmart. have any of those companies called you about this bill? >> no, but tucker come you are saying first of all there is no study -- >> tucker: no, no, no. there is not a single study that i'm aware of that shows an improvement in the mental health of children who take puberty blockers who are chemically castrated. and you couldn't cite one. you are not familiar. you were told by doctors that it's a good idea and you went with it. but i just want to clarify very quickly, have you come and i just want to be clear on this. have you spoken to any corporate interests in the state of arkansas about this bill? >> tucker, i answered that. i answered that question and i said, no, i have not. you have another caution? >> tucker: i'm skeptical because we have certainly seen across the -- let me just say, governor, with respect, i am skeptical that not a single corporation in the state of arkansas has weighed in with you one way or the other on this bill. i am skeptical. >> you asked me if i had talked to them. i said i hadn't. let me emphasize, tucker, you are a conservative. you have a great background. where are we getting back to the limited role of government? we don't have to invoke ourselves in every societal position out there. let's limit the role of government. let parents and doctors make decisions. >> tucker: then why don't we allow 18-year-olds to drink beer in arkansas? why don't we allow them to get tattoos? why don't we allow 15-year-olds to get married? you are allowing, you have vetoed a bill that would have protected children, not adults, children from a life altering permanent procedure that has effects we can only guess at. but the early indication is they are very serious and very negative in some cases. and now you are telling me -- why are we preventing kids from getting married or drinking, having sex? they are not old enough to have sex but they are old enough to be chemically castrated? i was at work exactly question mike i will listen eyes you explain. >> thank you, tucker. first of all, these are difficult decisions. you ought to listen to the medical professions. you want to listen to professional counselors. you want to listen to parents? or do you want to leave all of these decisions to the legislators that come from all different kinds of backgrounds? yes, they are elected to represent you, but they do not necessarily make the right judgments for parents and for doctors in the most sensitive issues. >> tucker: then why are we regulating the behavior of children at all if we are allowing children to decide. and by the way, i read a study today that showed the overwhelming majority of kids who do not take life altering hormones in the end decide not to "transition to a new sex." oh, there's a lot going on here. i am asking is a conservative, you incited ronald reagan as if he were in favor of the 28. >> look, tucker. you want to keep talking or do you want me to answer the question? well, thank you. and so, whenever you, whether it's there for minors. these are all issues that you have to address in the legislature. you make judgment calls on it. but we also try to restrain ourselves as conservatives so that we don't have to be involved in every issue. and if you want to broaden the party, if you want to get back to the principles, then let's at least think through in a reasoned way as to whether this is the right bill to interfere with parents and doctor's decisions on a health care matter, as you pointed out does not have thorough research in every area. and so, i yield to that. whatever you look at this bill and my veto of it -- >> tucker: if someone ten years ago said you are going to be governor of arkansas and you are going to veto a bill that would have protected children from chemical castration, what you think you would have said? stick, just like i said today, if you are talking about a reassignment surgery, i would have assigned that bill in a minute. but when you are talking about less than 200 kids in arkansas that are currently on hormone treatment and they are immediately cut off without having a grandfather clause in the legislation, i don't think that's treating those kids or their parents or their health care providers fairly or equally. >> tucker: all right. that is the conservative position. governor, thanks. i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: he is a longtime friend of the show, one of the very few independent journalists currently working. he was recently convicted of a crime. kind of an amazing story. he joins us next to explain what happened. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: got great wealth is an independent journalists in front of the show. you can find his work and we hope you will. he just wrote an amazing piece about an experience that happened ten him in early march. 5 gunmen stormed the house outside of rio de janeiro. the government health him hostage for over an hour. they stuck a gun in his mouth. they broke the security guard 's ribs. he is the author of "securing democracy" the book is out today. he joins us now. glenn, it's great to see you. this is a shocking story. i think everyone was really stunned to read it. what happened? >> yeah, so you know, i was kind of reluctant to write about it. it happened a month ago. when you are a journalist, you don't really want to write about your own, but i was really encouraged to buy especially journalists and friends of mine who work on the crime, who said this was a really good opportunity to convey to people, especially with skyrocketing crime in major american cities about how brutalizing and traumatizing it can be, even if nobody ended up dead. and so, i decided to tell a story. it was very similar to what you just said it around 9:00 at night, i heard my dog barking incessantly. i went out to see why and suddenly were there were three men pointing guns. when i went in there, they had already contained the security guard of mine who is an off-duty police officer. he was laying on the ground and they were standing over him with guns pointed at his head. and i was actually very relieved when they began demanded money, because my first thought was, this could be a politically-targeted crime. we got a lot of death threats in brazil. my husband is a working congressman. when i told them that, they didn't believe it. the kind of worked into a rage. that is when they started becoming more violent. breaking his ribs. putting a gun to my mouth. they stayed about an hour and when they left, they tied our hands together behind her back, bound her legs together and locked the door. stole the car that we had in our driveway. >> tucker: so, subsequent, i mean come after this happened, you came on both show and never mentioned it. pretty amazing. an experience like that has got to get you thinking, i'm not sure about what, but what did he get you think about? people change when they go through an event like the one you described. >> yeah. i mean, the reason i wrote about it is because actually read about a very similar story of the vietnamese immigrant family in oakland who had 4 armed gunmen break into their home at 9:00 at night when they were putting their 7-year-old daughter to bed and threatened to shoot the daughter repeatedly and ransacked their house and stole their valuables. and i felt like that story was worse and i wanted to tell my story to encourage people to donate money to them. so, part of it is you just start empathizing with other people who go through it. but you also realize how fragile life is. you know, very easily it could have ended that day. and you want to maximize the value of each day. and also, you think about social pathologies. what is the effect of lockdowns, and quarantines, and isolation, and social distancing. not to make excuses for people to do this, but it drives people to this level of desperation. >> tucker: well, that's right. i mean, there's got to be a -- people are getting more fearful. there has got to be some effect on the broader society of that. >> yeah. i mean, there were people who tried warning when everyone was demanding lockdowns in the u.s. and u.k. and elsewhere, including in brazil. look, there are costs obviously to the pandemic. but there are huge costs to shutting down the economy, to separating everybody, to locking people in their homes. there is mental health costs. it is really kind of a taboo on being able to weigh those costs. everyone just said no. the only thing that matters is the coronavirus and stopping it. i think we are going to be dealing with the devastating effects of the solutions to the coronavirus for many, many, many years to come. >> tucker: did anyone catch, i should have asked this. did anyone catch the guys who did this customer spigot in my case, they did. they were stupid. they use the car that was in my husband's name. he was a congressman to try to break into three different stores that same night. they were professionals. they got caught in the police apprehended them. i am happy to say those four men are at large, and if you listen to the 7-year-old girl talk about how she can't sleep because she believes they are going to come back at any moment, you get a sense for how much things like this deprive you of your sense of security. >> tucker: that's right. that's exactly right. glenn greenwald, i hope you will keep writing as much as you can. thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: welcome a major league baseball has decided that georgia's voter fraud law, jim crowe, they are leaving the all-star game to colorado. how do colorado's laws compared to georgia? he is here to explain for us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: major league baseball, which seems to be controlled by the bite speedadminister ration, they are claiming the voter i.d. law is racist. so, why is major league baseball getting involved in politics? and in voting? by the way, what are the differences between colorado's law and georgia's law? he has been on this in a much deeper way. fox news' senior political analyst paired he joins us tonight. it's great to see you. >> you too, tucker. >> tucker: i will just let you take it, but what is this about? >> well, because i think major league baseball felt they were under pressure from the campaign that had basically been whipped up to make the argument that the georgia law is racist and involved in voter suppression. it is actually quite a balanced law that has some things that people would like and some that they do not. but it is nothing approaching jim crow. while colorado now, that is another matter entirely because in colorado, all you need to know about colorado is that they send the ballot to every registered voter. they all can fill out their ballot and mail it in. now, i'm not the only commentator to suggest that the opportunity for fraud in a situation like this, but that is how they do it and of course they'll think it's it's wonderful out there. and that's why i think denver was chosen, never mind the fact that this is a great benefit to this game, to the economy of the city. >> tucker: of course. >> and in the city of atlanta, the city is more than half people of colorado. denver is under 10% black. >> tucker: you probably wouldn't want to pull out of atlanta. >> well, if you are striking a blow for the community, you wouldn't necessarily want to pull out of atlanta. but that is an economic regiment. that's not a voter rights argument. but you've got a wide-open situation. nothing more perfectly fit and illustrated two divisions in this country than this battle. because on the one side, you have the democrats, who think that anything, or almost anything to do with ballot security, to do with voter integrity, it has to do with i.d. votes and all of the i.d. requirements and all of the rest of it is an attempt at voter suppression. on the other hand, conservatives and republicans are worried that this lax border security provision, such as nearly 100% mail-in voting are ripe for fraud. neither side trusts the other's motives. so, the result is that you have this bitter controversy into which major league baseball is now injected itself in the middle. now they may feel they have won a lot of points on one side, but they are going to lose a lot of ground with people on the other side. >> tucker: there are a lot of things to say about this, but you've got to wonder, the capital ryan on january 6th, it's not an excuse for what people did or the laws that they broke. the people were fundamentally distressed about the election interference. a lot of people believe that. a lot of people feel that way. it's close to half the country to say we are going to make the voting requirements even looser. how does that unite the country customer >> i don't think it does and i particularly don't think president biden, you know, who has repeatedly insisted that he wants to be a healer, would f this controversy and say so many things that even the mainstream media have declared to be false that he keeps on saying them. he said once again today that the georgia law is a jim crow law. by no reasonable stretch can you compare the voting regimen in georgia, the voting regime in georgia today to what was going on during jim crow. it is outrageous exaggeration at best. and there he is in the middle of it. my guess is that there will be a price to pay for this. but it's not clear when. >> tucker: hard to imagine a more racially divisive thing to say. it's hard to measure when you talk like that. really quickly, why do they care so much about this? >> well, if you are a conservative republican, you think this. this is an interesting thing. there is actually a kind of, there's a kind of joining of the viewpoints here. i think democrats think that their voters may not be all that smart or may not be all that devoted to voting, so they want to make it as easy as possible. republicans on the other hand think that people ought to do something. they ought to have to do something to exercise. it shouldn't be that easy to cheat. so, they both come in effect, think the same thing about democratic voting. >> tucker: [laughs] thank you. well, homelessness is the problem nobody talks about. it's getting bigger. tomorrow on the show, we will have a remarkable video of just how completely homelessness has taken over some american cities. be right back. ♪ ♪ you know it's silly six-foot five, three hundred pounds i ride motorcycles on the weekends. so the thought of getting a hearing aid, i was.. i was scared. with lively, did a hearing test on the computer, when they sent them in the mail they were already set up for me. this little thing right here, has made me whole again. a test in minutes, hearing aids in days, better hearing in no time. get started today at listenlively.com the sky is the limit now, on what i can go do. fact i'm going to go riding this weekend. >> tucker: saw an amazing tweet yesterday from the disgraced lincoln project that shows you just how corporate the democratic party has become. if corporations start pulling support for your party or state, move your the problem. [laughs] so if coca-cola doesn't like you, you are immoral. before i go tonight, we had an amazing conversation with piers morgan yesterday on fox nation. made a fair amount of news. worth seeing. go to foxnation.com. this show is called "tucker carlson today." have a great evening. sean hannity takes over from here. >> sean: thank you and welcome to "hannity." we are learning more about 60 minutes fake fraudulent fail them intentionally lying hit pia governor ron desantis, it's worse than we thought but cbs is still refusing to issue a full retraction and an apology. we have a full report tonight. along with the major development on what the biden administration is considering doing at the southern border. it may surprise you. a more serious questions surrounding the stamina, the cognitive decline of joe biden. i'll explain all coming up. also lease a

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