>> but the directive has not changed with the administration? >> nope. >> juan: that happening after president biden got called out by his own voter official. they claim he is denying reality what is happening. the same officials warning they were being overwhelmed and don't have the resources to handle thousands of children coming into the country. the biden administration also under fire for not letting the media into migrant facilities. agents reportedly feel like "they are under a gag order. the white house being called out for lack of transparency. >> you all came in and to be truthful and transparent administration. and you will oversee the department of homeland security. so if you all wanted to grant access to the press couldn't you just tell them to do it? >> again, we fully support transparency and call homeland security for any press access or what you are looking to accomplish. the white house, we all need administration support in finding a way to grant access to the media to the hhs. no, the facilities are the shelters where these children are staying for a temporary period of time. >> juan: let me begin with you, she is the word crisis as you saw there. it is a big deal by critics of the biden administration border policy but my question to you, does it change anything in terms of the reality of what we are dealing with at the border? >> the reality that i'm most concerned with is reality of the children. i don't care what you call it, detention centers. i don't care if you call them cages, i don't care if you call it a crisis come i don't care if you call it a challenge but at least care about the kids, seem like you are caring about the kids instead of just hearing about words. and as far as access, there are two things that will sink any administration aside from the pandemic that is a big immigration crisis and tax policy failure. m biden could be on fast fast track to both. so let's talk about, these pictures are awful. the reality for these children is awful but you are not saying that because they are not granting access. and cdp and hhs are saying they are not allowed to take journalist on ride-a lungs and critical for how local and federal works and also for telling the story of these children who are writing by themselves with no end in sight. >> juan: jesse, this kind of surge of under age immigrants happens under republicans as well as democrats. i wonder if we can agree both republicans and democrats see more advantage in blaming president trump or blaming president biden then they are at solving the problem? >> jesse: this is shaping up to be a record surge of unaccompanied minors. and everybody cares about that if you are a republican or a democrat. but the crisis spot that the immigrants aren't they built that box. the last several years they slept the crisis label and everything to justify extreme and immediate reaction. remember the climate crisis, we had to spend $100 trillion or we will die. a constitutional crisis. we have to impeach trump immediately. a covid crisis, we have to spend $350 billion to bail out the blue states. they have done that to themselves. remember rahm emanuel said never let a crisis go to waste. finally, they found a crisis they don't mind wasting time confronting because they don't want to appear they have the tools to address did it. joe biden can come out right now and reinstitute the remaining in mexico policy. he can strong-arm the mexico government to force the mexican military to stop the caravans. he could expel the 16 and 17-year-old unaccompanied minors who are coming here. he could stop the catch and release and finish the border wall so you don't leave a mile of open space to come into. all of those things he can do, juan, to your point he can demand to not do comprehensive immigration forum but single out the asylum fix. he can fast-track that and that would stop the entire surge. but is not doing that. that would mean he would have to take action in he's too afraid of his radical, open borders left-wing base to do anything that might be similar to what donald trump did, even though that was actually effective in letting those people remain in mexico or central america and apply for asylum in their home countries like everybody else has done. now, he's playing this rhetorical game with the press to buy time so we doesn't have to take action. it is not what adults do. adults solve problems. they don't mess around and play word games. i'm surprised the president is wet, nearly 80? act like an adult and solve the problem. >> juan: all right, dana, today president biden tweeted out "the two house bills that will get voted on to take vote deal with immigration, one of the dreamers, one on foreign workers in both popular with the american people" and biden asked congress to come together and here i'm quoting "to find long-term immigration for the system." do you think there is any hope, dana, that they will get something done? >> dana: this is a classic way the democrats will do this. they will wait until a crisis, don't know how to solve it and why aren't the republicans coming up with solutions? they had solutions and you decided to go a different direction. lindsey graham from a senator from south carolina, said -- i don't want to put words in his mouth, but there were ideas on immigration reform that you would be willing to support but he said border security issue is one that you deal with and they will demand that it is dealt with first. and the white house press secretary, she doesn't need my help, but this is what i think there there is a name on twitter referring to the white house chief of staff as prime minister. yesterday, he held a meeting with the congressional progressive caucus, basically promising the sun, the moon, and the stars. when they do infrastructure, you bet, we will throw all of these things on their fear that meanwhile, the press secretary taking on endless water, unable to figure out this rhetorical situation that they put themselves in into me, they should rip the band-aid off. it is a crisis, move on or they will not be able to deal with the fact that they have a fact problem causing a communications problem but the communications problem initially from the campaign has caused their fact problem. the sooner they will be able to deal with something else. the white house chief of staff and prime minister, the communications director, where a susan rice? where is anybody to help her remind the president of the united states? she is taking on water. just call it a crisis and it will be over in 24 hours. and you can move on to try to deal with actual substance and not just the crisis challenge story. >> juan: greg come in fact, picking up on what pain is talking about, you have 20 centrist senators bipartisan coming together saying "we are looking for solutions in terms of immigration come in terms of infrastructure and beyond health care." i don't see schumer, the democratic leader in the senate come i don't see mcconnell, the republican leader getting behind these people. why not? >> greg: great question. right now i just feel bad for jen psaki. after that press conference. i heard her brother called afterwards and said don't cry, sis. anyway, you guys are missing, in my view, there is a really, really, really big story going on regarding immigration. but it is going on outside of this show. right now, if you try on any other channel, viewers are being sold the idea that america is the land of white supremacy. yet, right now we are seeing thousands, tens of thousands and it will be millions of nonwhite people risking life and limb to come to america. why would they do that? if they believe what they saw on cnn that we are a nation of free citizens come away are they coming? because they know it is not true. they are actually voting with their feet, which is destroying the big lie about what this country is, the big light that speaks souls to american by cnn and other media outlets. the america that is the land of opportunity and not the land of white racism. that is tearing a massive hole in the white power narrative that is being played 24/7. the bottom line about immigration, a country has to be able to dictate its borders. that is obvious. other countries can't dictate your border by having large numbers of people go to it. yet, we have to control it and they have to control they are a spirit i want people to come here that want to be here with me. that makes me feel good. that makes me feel good because they were validating our country. they are validating error values and they crushed the fallacy oft this country is forever stained with white supremacy because there are people that we are seeing right now on the border who blast that i did it all to. that should make everybody happy. and that is why other networks are not covering this story, because it destroys all the other stories and it destroys all the other stories they are doing. >> juan: up next my john kerry being called a first-class hypocrite. after being cut not wearing a mask on a flight. next here on "the five." ♪ ♪ not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 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[laughter] that was a good one. that was a good one. >> jesse: that was a good one. and i miss seeing people's faces, even john kerry so i'm with greg, he's probably vaccinated. i'm not going to mask shame, that is their game and they can have that. i think kennedy is right, draw affect that he's flying coach. you know, i don't even know how much masks have to do with flattening the curve. and a mask investigation. so pay attention to that. and when aphid in texas dropped, the cases went down. and they continue to go down. you know what is kicking covid's you know what now. in january we were averaging a quarter million of cases a day. today $50,000. and in january 4000 deaths a day but now we are averaging just a thousand. and i don't think it is because everyone is wearing masks since we have been since september. i think it is herd immunity, vaccinations and seasonality. that is all it has to do with, not masks appearance before we can look forward to that on saturday night. juan whatever do you want to talk about zoom zoom or claimant climate czar? >> juan: i don't understand why this is a big deal. >> dana: do you not remember what they did to ted cruz? >> juan: no. i just think that anybody, anybody would say if you want to scratch your nose come if you want to have a drink, if you need to take a deep breath, drop your mask for a second but my guess this is a big deal because people remember that trump didn't encourage people to wear a mask and he didn't wear a mask himself. and i think this is very much petty politics. a little bit of biden mp. biden announced today his administration is 100 million vaccinations. that is why you see the death rate and infection rate going down. that is way ahead of schedule. he said he would get there in 100 days. he has got there in 59 days. right now, you have school's opening, wall street hitting record highs, covert relief package that has like 70% support from the american people. and by the way, hats off to trump but i just wish everybody else wasn't playing politics. trump said that he would recommend that people get vaccinated. he and his wife have been vaccinated. but still you get half of republican men saying, i'm not going to do it, not me. i think it is petty politics. >> greg: more than half. >> dana: coming up, majored developments in the cuomo scandal with complaints about the policies that were ignored. ♪ ♪ those who du more with less asthma. thanks to dupixent. the add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma. dupixent isn't for sudden breathing problems. it can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as 2 weeks and help prevent severe asthma attacks. it's not a steroid but can help reduce or eliminate oral steroids. dupixent can cause serious allergic reactions including anaphylaxis. get help right away if you have rash, shortness of breath, chest pain, tingling or numbness in your limbs. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection and don't change or stop your asthma treatments, including steroids, without talking to your doctor. du more with less asthma. talk to your asthma specialist about dupixent. if your financial situation has changed, we may be able to help. ♪♪ ♪♪ comfort in the extreme. the lincoln family of luxury suvs. new projects means new project managers. comfort in the extreme. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: a big time development in andrew cuomo's cover up you are at a whistle-blower speaking out about the governors deadly nursing home scandal that killed 15,000 people. the nursing home administrator says he and other executives and other facilities were petrified by cuomo's decision and that complains about the policies were dismissed. take a look at this exclusive interview with aisha hosni. mccoy said that is ridiculous, we can't be doing this. it is just not right to the residence. >> and you vocalized that on these phone conversations. >> i did vocalize it, and then once it was shot down, i never spoke again. we were told, please don't send us your sick patients. there were multiple hospitals that were threatening. >> threatened in what way? >> i never saw the exact emails, but they were threatened that they would be reported. for noncompliance. >> jesse: dana, did he silenced the whistle-blower? i was told that was a big no-no last year. >> dana: an incredible interview by aishah hasnie and she's a person that can get to the heart of the matter here. and for him to be willing to come out and talk about it, but struck by what you said, jesse, is there something here nefarious? could be and that could be part of the investigation, which now there are many on multiple issues including sexual harassment allegations. but i also think about him, and i know he cared about the residence. and when you are an administrator at homecoming you are taking care of. and they have a lot of heart. i can understand why so upset. a very curious, i think and probably will find out more -- more why he couldn't speak out more. >> jesse: grade, we remember his book deal is hanging in the balance. bacon fans coming through at this time and people wondering if that had anything to do with this decision to cover it up. >> greg: there is a few interesting things, and i mentioned this a while ago, why is the harassment store the one that the democrats in embrace where the instinct is to protect their kind? it didn't feel right but what if you have the sexual harassment case, there was one culprit but with the nursing home, there's a whole bunch, right? so the sexual harassment scandal is real, but it's also serving perhaps a deflection from a scandal that could bring down more than one democrat or one governor. the sexual harassment scandal is a scandal of one. the nursing home is a scandal of many. of course, i believe back in may when cuomo gave the nursing home's immunity against lawsuits, and then got a huge donation from the nursing home industry. what if he had not done that? and maybe he could have been a hero and gone after them but too late. >> jesse: ju