overwhelmed the border. >> here's the deal. we are sending back people -- first of all, the idea that joe biden said come because i heard the other day that they are coming because they know i am a nice guy, well, here's the deal. they are not. i can say quite clearly don't come and we are in the process of getting set up, don't leave your town or city. >> greg: wait, you didn't encourage migrants to come over? then in the very same breath you say don't come yet, because we are not ready? like america is a rock concert in the doors don't open until 9:00? he literally just did what he denied. too bad there's no tape of him saying you shouldn't come -- oh, wait. >> i would in fact make sure that there is, we immediately surge of the border. all those people seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard, that's who we are. we are a nation who says if you want to flee and you are fleeing oppression, you should come. >> in a heartbeat we would take another 2 million. i would also move to increase the total number of immigrants able to come to the united states. >> greg: of course this is easy to say if you pretend they are all fleeing oppression and once you factor other variables, the effect on minorities and the job market and disregard for those who legally came here, the impact on the country and medical crisis, the moral importance of process, you see the idiocy. their feeble defense, pointing to previous surges under trump. >> they are coming in because you promised to make things better. it seems to be getting worse by the day. was it a mistake not to anticipate the surge? >> first of all, there was a surge the last two years in '19 ant '20 as well. >> this might be worse. >> well, it could be. >> greg: in those surges weren't egged on by trump. remember? >> we will continue to be a place of refuge, a place where immigrants can come to and where they can feel safe. [all chanting] >> note to the wall! >> we are going to stay a sanctuary city. >> i can't say it any more clearly what it means for washington, d.c., to be a sanctuary city. and we will continue to be a sanctuary city. >> greg: you see, it's the dems who promised a safe haven in order to handicapped trump's immigration plan for the promises were amplified by a sympathetic media. but it was trump's blunt honesty and action that stopped the flow. the dems called his comments on system inhumane, yet they do worse. luring criminals and helpless kids over. they created this crisis every single time, and to deny that denies facts. but if the dems stop denying facts they get no more friendly press and that's their incentive against truth. all right, juan, a lot of people are saying it's always been trump's mean, inhumane manner that they are trying to fix yet what we are seeing here is a crisis caused by soft words and inaction. >> juan: you know, i think for trump support is to go after joe biden, i think that's fair game. he's the president and he should be criticized, greg. but i think seriously, comparing what biden said in 2019 on tape as you just played to what he is saying today i think it is like comparing apples and oranges. it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. in 2019 he is talking about 2 million people coming in an orderly process, saying that the american economy could barely absorb that, we can use the workers, all this is true. what he's talking about now is dealing with a surge, principally dealing with a lot of these unaccompanied minors, largely boys and making sure that we have adequate facilities to care for them. so today, alejandro mayorkas, the homeland security secretary was testifying in congress and he said we are trying to get this together. we don't have it together yet but we are trying because he says the real crisis was when trump was separating children from their families. what we got now, he refused to use the word crisis but i'm willing to. what we got now is a crisis in terms of how we as an american people can sincerely deal with these people who are requesting under american law amnesty and protection, so that's what congress needs to deal with, everyone understands it, i've been saying it for weeks, congress, do your job. republicans and democrats stop taking harsh stands. democrats understand, republicans need increased border security, republicans understand that democrats say we need to do something about the dreamers and about the people that are here. let's just get it done. >> greg: we've made some progress. juan said it's a crisis, take what we can get and run! [laughter] >> jesse: i honestly think juan's heart is in the right place. juan does not want to see kids in cages, juan does not want to see children pushed into the hands of cartels. no one wants to see that. so the question is how do you prevent that? and what joe biden has done is encouraged that their policy and through rhetoric. saying don't come now is too little, too late. right now, parents in central america and mexico know that if they send their kids to the united states, they get to stay. they know that. so they are sending their kids into the hands of smugglers, the smugglers are getting paid, the cartels reap the profits, and these kids are traffic like pawns into the united states and then used for god knows what, potentially chain migration and also used as a distraction for border control, to send in drugs when the border control people aren't looking. that's not in dispute, we know that, those of the facts on the ground and that is the situation and joe biden has not done anything since inauguration to reduce the flow of illegal immigration. saying you're just going to pay off corrupt central american politicians doesn't work, it never has. and then also saying we need to get congress involved, that has never worked and we know that's not going to happen. he needs to take administrative action and he needs to do things like expel children, have them show up unaccompanied and show up in neighboring companies and provide for asylum like the rest of the world dead. that is what donald trump had organized and joe biden tore that up and now we are seeing the results of this. democrats in congress on the border are fuming because joe biden is going to get them tossed out of congress. they are not consulting with these people, they think it's a crisis, mayors can't absorb this, and citizens of the world don't want covid infected people coming in and undercutting wages. joe has a lot of work to do and so far he hasn't done anything. >> greg: i was listening to jen psaki today and she said you know what this is, it's a complicated circumstance. i always like when democrats discover nuance. it's always when they are in power. >> katie: at least they are using words now to describe. i don't think this is fun, i don't think this is a horrific situation. it's a tough one to deal with, we asked for press access, some of these facilities to see what's going on and you haven't done anything to get us that access. we also can't go on right alongs and border patrol, agents can't tell us about what's going on but governor greg abbott said today, local authorities are going to be overwhelmed and the federal government's job is to enforce the law and they are not doing that and you also have child sex trafficking and preventing it in the stories they told about what's happening are absolutely horrific and hard to listen to but that's the reality here. i keep hearing from the white house that this is a humane process, that they are the ones who are being humane. so inhumane that they will not allow reported then, they won't release photos or let border patrol agents talk to journalists about what's happening and now we are seeing an increase in sex trafficking and abuse of women as well and yet they are still unable to call it what it is or implement policies to reverse this trend. it's just going to get worse. >> greg: dana, you've approximately 2 minutes to solve this problem. >> dana: the idea that congress is going to get together and solve this in a meaningful time, but today we talked to a mayor from texas, they are at capacity for the facility that they have in that district to take care of children at that time and there are 565 children crossing every day. obviously, there is a huge crisis. plus nbc news reported that families are sending children unaccompanied specifically in response to the biden policy that children can't be returned to mexico or anywhere else, so i thought that last night, that is a strong message. that is not what they are going to hear. a big car about saying don't come, yet. what do you think that -- for people who are saying they're desperate, what do you think they hear when they hear that? did i solve it? >> greg: kind of. i didn't know you were ending there, though peer but it was a good ending. >> dana: it's a wrap. >> greg: i know. coming up, democrats and joe biden planning a power grab that could pave the way for their radical agenda. ♪ ♪ not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 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>> i am, that is what it is supposed to be. >> just put a hold on? >> i am, yeah, it's almost to the point where democracy is having a hard time functioning. >> katie: republicans warning democrats there playing with fire. mitch mcconnell saying any potential rule change would lead to a "gorged earth senate." mitch mcconnell oftentimes warns democrats they're going to regret changing the rules. and then he is always right when republicans get back in power and use the rules that democrats change to their advantage. do they risk doing that here? >> juan: yeah, i think that's exactly why my prediction, katie, the filibuster stays because i think there are all kinds of options for republicans and especially large options of republicans take the senate back, whether it's '22, '24, whatever. but no matter where you stand on the filibuster, i think all of us have to answer this question, do you really think that the united states congress is working for you and me and the american people? and i think the overwhelming answer is no, and i think the filibuster is part of that problem. nothing gets done, nothing can get done. it's just too big, 60 vote majority to solve our problems and deal with what congress intended to do, help us help the american people be a better country. i think mitch mcconnell talks about, if the democrats take away the filibuster is going to be a 100 car pileup, nothing is going to move on this highway. senator mcconnell, we have got a train wreck right now. a train wreck in which nothing gets done. zero. we don't deal with any major issue in congress at all. to me, this is stunning and for the first, for most of the history, people would may be one filibuster a year and it would simply slow down legislation, it didn't stop anything. but since 2010 and obama, my gosh, it's been 80 filibuster is a year and it stops everything from being done. it's not right, katie. >> katie: dana, president biden says that democracy is having a hard time functioning, but it isn't just reading senate of a minority position against democracy, considering those people are also elected by the voters? >> dana: you also hear some people say it's unconstitutional. that's not the case, it is allowed under the constitution. just be eighth point, they have been used a lot. what has been used most recently? the democrats. one thing they used recently was covid relief. and then nothing got done, they got something done under reconciliation, so there's that. i think the democrats' plan right now is to pass so many bills in the house and send them over to the sun and then complain that mitch mcconnell won't allow anything to go through while trying to pressure senator manchin and senator sinema to get them to change their minds. to juan's point, is there a problem when the majority with such a narrow margin says nothing can get done? okay, maybe you should try to persuade 60 senators. that is actually something that would be worthwhile. what could get 60 votes in the senate? why don't we try a little bit more on the persuasion side of things rather than trying to end minority rights in the senate? >> katie: greg, i would argue the filibuster helps with not pushing through bad legislation. the whole point is to make sure that something is good and thoroughly debated and representative of everybody and it is supposed to slow things down so things that get through actually decent. >> greg: exactly. it's like an imodium tablet. what you're talking about, what dana said, why don't you stop trying to create this monster bills that satisfy the most woke members of your party and actually create something people want and be persuasive? look, when the dems are in power, they don't like the filibuster. when they are out of power, they are pro-filibuster, so it's a position one holds and reverses based on where they are in terms of power. if this position were in the kama sutra it would be called reverse hypocrite. i hope i didn't make you blush, dana, with that joke. >> dana: very funny! >> greg: i'm going to repeat what ari said today, which is a great point, abolish it but make it go into effect in the next congress so the people voting for it may or may not get a benefit out of it and see where that goes. my belief is it probably won't go anywhere. or take it to the supreme court. they're not doing much. they can probably handle this. this vote shouldn't be by people with skin in the game is what i'm saying. >> katie: i want to know from you whether you think joe manchin and kyrsten sinema will actually hold the line and vote against eliminating the filibuster? >> jesse: i don't have a lot of trust in joe manchin but i think he will hold the line. i think he will hold the line. you guys have said it all, i don't have much to add. i think juan is right, i can't believe i'm saying that but the filibuster is not going anywhere. they're saying democracy is having a hard time functioning, no. democrats are having a hard time functioning with checks and balances. the whole reason you have the senate is to put a cap on mob rule in the house. it's a deliberative body that is trying to forge consensus and if you get rid of that you're going to have the republicans control all three branches, you get gun legislation, abortion legislation, you get immigration restrictions and democrats come in the next congress, tax cuts. the next and the democrats come and they spend the whole time trashing that and then republicans come back and they trashed that. it's just unstable. and if you are a senator, if you really want to be a congressman, the whole reason you got elected to the senate is because you don't have to be in congress. that is the selling point. >> dana: true. we will play by your rules if you want to, that's just fine. >> katie: up next, are democrats going easy on andrew cuomo? 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>> yes, i think he will probably end up being prosecuted too. a woman should be presumed to be telling the truth and should not be scapegoated and victimized by her coming forward, number one. but there should be an investigation to determine whether what she says is true. >> juan: and critics are piling on vice president kamala harris were not yet speaking out about the cuomo accusations. this is all happening while a new report says cuomo's inner circle was looking to damage the credibility of accuser lindsay boylan and link her to trump supporters. the report also said cuomo helped write a letter to retaliate against her. jesse, let me begin with you. biden, is he landing in a good place here? obviously, these are serious accusations. biden saying there should be a serious investigation and if found to be responsible, cuomo should resign. as of the right stance? >> jesse: that's my stance but stephanopoulos let him off easy. probably why he always asks george to do these sit downs with him because george doesn't do follow-up questions. the follow-up question when joe biden says all women should be assumed to be telling the truth and there should be an investigation to determine whether it's true or not, i would have said okay, mr. president, you were accused of sexual assault by tara reade, should americans assume that she was telling the truth? and then the president says oh, well, that was investigated. i would say mr. president, it was not investigated at all. are you calling for an investigation into the sexual assault charge against you and he says no, the media looked into this and i would say, the media is not the entity that investigates this, mr. president. in fact, when the media try to look into your senate files at the university of delaware you shut them down. that is how you conduct an interview fairly of the president but he would never agree to do an interview with me because i would make that argument collapse. >> juan: wow, a prosecutor. katie, what do you think? is there some praise for nonsweeping this thing under the rug? they're the ones going after cuomo right now. >> katie: i definitely give the legislators in new york at her for going after him but i would hope they also go after him for the nursing home scandal but on the issue of the sexual harassment, the vice president now, kamala harris, can't come out and talk about this and comment because that would open up a whole can of worms when it came to ta