calamity." fox news confirms 565 unaccompanied children are flooding in to the united states every day. president biden is now telling the report number of migrants trying to cross to stay home. >> do you have to say quite clearly don't come. >> yes. i can say quite clearly don't come. we're in the process of getting it set up. don't leave your town or city or community. >> he said that after saying there on the campaign trail. >> i think people should have to get in line. if people are coming because they're seeking asylum, they should have a chance to make their case. >> i would in fact make sure that there is -- we immediately surge to the border those people seeking asylum. they deserve to be heard. that's who we are. we're a nation that says if you're fleeing oppression, you should come. >> and the ice directeder and victor davis hanson. first griff jenkins. he's live in mexico. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. we're at the port of entry. any moment, we're awaiting a group of 30 to 50 migrants that have remained in mexico under the policy. with the new administration, they'll be allowed to cross that bridge. one of those migrants that has been waiting a year and eight months, a gentleman in the middle here. selling newspapers. he's a cuban migrant that came here. he's been waiting for a year and eight months. i asked him, trace and had to be translated from spanish, i asked about that stay-at-home message. here's what he said. >> was he told that he would get in? >> we understand that mpp is priority for biden's government. i trust the government of the united states to accept me and my family. >> it is when these migrants are getting in under the new administration that is causing the surge. that's why they're coming, whether it be unaccompanied children, families or single adults. we were in the processing center with migrants that were expelled on the same bridge. we saw families, we saw children with run any noses, coughing. they crossed illegally and expelled under title 42. at the bottom line here, trace, is that the numbers that you mentioned and i want to show the number of unaccompanied children, 565 unaccompanied minors per day up from 313 in february. blows out of the water the average in the year 2019 when we called it a crisis and saw it as a crisis. that was 208 a day. the officials here that run the ports, runs the migrant population, enrique venezuela says the shelters at full. they're at capacity. they hope the migrants hear the message not to come because he's out of resources and overwhelmed on what to do here. trace? >> more than double the numbers of 2019 to 2021. griff jenkins. now we bring in ron batello. you heard griff jenkins there. these people are under the impression that joe biden wants them to come up there. he said he wants them to come. now he's saying they should not come and he also said in the interview with abc that he's surprised. he did not anticipate the surge. how can you ask them to come and not think they will? >> correct. at least a mix signal going on if not an actual signal that says we're going soft on the border. removing the migrant protection protocols and letting those folks comes in to the u.s. to awith wait their asylum puts them in the same category for the people in the pipeline now. the unaccompanied children are treated under the law that they will be released in the united states. that's been happening since 2008 when the law was reformed. in 2014 through the court contests. they have to be treated under the law and released in the country to their parents hopefully or some kind of foster situation. i'll remind everyone in 2014 when this was a big problem and it was smallner 2014 than it is today, 94% of those kids are still in the united states. so there's an incentive for them to send their children to the border, bring their children to the border or come as kids alone. this is the situation that we're in. it was predictable. now everybody is playing catch-up. i feel terrible for the dhs work force and their families. yet again, they're going to go through another surge. agents and officers, folks in ice, they have to pick up the pieces here. >> i want to pick up on a point you just touched on. there are about 2014, 2019, most of those unaccompanied minors are still in the united states. former acting dhs secretary chat wolf said the following about who is talking to who on both sides of the border. listen to this. >> they listen to other illegals who have gotten in to the country that call them and tell them that they're here, they're staying in the u.s., they're not being deported or removed. that is how they vote. that's what they're listening to. >> they're listening to it. president biden now says we just need a little time to set up the system. three months ago the system was largely in place, ron. >> the system was there. we didn't need as many shelters nor unaccompanied children because they were using title 42 to remove them and repatriate them to mexico or another country. they didn't need the shelter space that they need now. what i heard, there's 500 plus kids coming every night. i saw reports that hhs releases. bringing the children to their families or reuniting them, they're going out 140 a day. if you have 500 coming every night and getting 140 out of the shelters, you need a lot more shelter space. you need to augment the border patrol locations so that they can socially distance, they can do their dangerous work in the proper setting. these people have to be brought in to the system in order nor the law to be operationized. there's no choice with children. that i have to be treated in this way. >> former acting ice director, ron batello. good to join us. thank you. >> thank you. >> also with us, victor david hanson who says biden's border policy is unhumane. thanks for coming on. you have to go back. when i read a lot of these never trumpers are saying, trump's border policies were working. what are your thoughts on what is happening at the southern border? >> well, i've never seen anything like it. it's entirely self-created, trace. after three acrimonyious years, trip trip had public support, he rebuilt or built a 400-mile wall plus and a system where refugees, if they had claims of entry into the united states would file in their own countries. when biden came into power, he threw it all away. i have never seen a situation where the presidents of mexico in a sarcastic fashion gives him a comment and calls him the migrant president. we had the president of el salvador saying we don't want this. it's all being driven by the united states. we have never had a government that said, you know, we're not saying don't come, i.e. you can come illegally and break our laws in the time of a pandemic but we don't want you to come now because it's embarrassing. this is very new. >> you have the dhs secretary -- oh i apologize -- that he expects the number of crossings that could reach the highest level in two decades. he went on to say that people should not come. then he said yet. so right now they want things to slow down because they have no idea what to do down there. there's no solution. there's no remedy. but as soon as they think they can figure this out, the signal is, you know, there's a time that you will be able to come. >> i think, trace, they're entirely bewildered. they thought this was a talking point to their left wing base and nobody would take them seriously. they could traipse into the united states and they did. now they can't even use the word crisis or trying to blame donald trump in some, you know, melodramatic fashion that doesn't make sense. here in california, governor newsome facing a recall election, what is his first public statement? it's all an alt right effort of people afraid of the browning of california. so the left is desperate to find some excuse for this self-inflicted catastrophe. polls show 70% of americans don't want this to happen. >> we have reported that, you know, these cartels and the smugglers are actively marketing the biden program. the governor of texas, greg abbott, he asked an important question during his news conference. i'm not going to play it. i want to paraphrase. he says america needs to know how these young children and who is helping them come across the border, we need to know if they were forced, did they carry contraband. these are things america needs to know. is that a fair assessment in your estimation? >> absolutely. this is passed off from the biden administration, the most inhumane thing in the world. parents are deliberately sending their children over here to serve as conduits for their own later entry, which is inhumane. the idea that cartels and smugglers are piggybacking on this is even worse. that's why you're getting this push back from governments south of the border that are saying to the united states, wait a minute. we had an agreement. things were calm, this is not in your interest and surely not in our interest either. that is a new phenomenon. we've never seen that happen. governments south of the border objecting to what we're encouraging. >> if i can quickly put these numbers up. you talked about them. we talked about them. today 565 unaccompanied minors today. that's the average. last month it was 313. back in 2014 or 2019 when they called it a crisis, it was less than half of that. victor davis hanson, great to have you on board. thank you, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> meantime, the white house briefing is underway. so far the issue of the border has not yet come up. florida senator marco rubio out with a blistering statement blaming the biden administration for creating a crisis there. he will join us. a shocking plot twist. a massage parlor shooting that left eight people dead. why the officials believe the suspect may have been triggered by sex addiction. former homicide detective ted williams is next on that. so you're a small business, or a big one. you were thriving, but then... oh. ah. okay. plan, pivot. how do you bounce back? 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>> trace: thanks, steve. breaking news at the white house. jen psaki giving a press briefing now on the surge of unaccompanied minors. let's listen. >> to prepare what has been an unprepared and dismantled system. it's going to take some time. our policy is that we're going to continue to make sure that we're working through our laws and the border is not open. but we also as you know have changed our policy to approach it in a more humane way and keep kids safe that requires putting in place more effective and efficient processing at the border. it will take time. we're working through it. every day new steps and new improvements to make the system more efficient and effective. >> is there a limit or cap to the number of unaccompanied minors allowed into the u.s.? >> a limit or a cap? should we send some kids that are 10 back at a certain point? is that -- >> i'm not setting the policy here. i'm asking you what the biden administration policy is. is there a limit to the number of children that will be allowed in. the numbers we're hearing now, 565 on average every day. i'm curious, what the end game is here. how many ultimately will be allowed in. >> i think where we are is we're focused on some of the very specific numbers. so when we came in to office, there existed 13,000 permanent beds in hhs, the shelter facilities during the last administration. thousands of these beds, approximately half were taken off line due to covid. staff was taken off line. this was sufficient for the prior administration. this is how we got here. they were expelling children. in addition to families and single adults. we decided as you know that we will be more humane about how we approach this. there was an operational capacity built. the prior administration did not consider there were mitigation efforts like masking and preventlation, cohorting and other measures that would contain the spread of covid. there's revised cdc guidance, which means there's greater capacity where we can expedite children. expedite getting children in to them. we're taking steps to ensure that when kids come to the border, we look and see if they have a phone number to call the family member and get them to the family members as quick as possible. these are the steps that we're taking at this point in time. our policy continues to be, we're not going to send a 10-year-old back across the border. that was the policy of the last administration. go ahead. >> and your commitment is to the young children under 17 or 17 and under stay. is the u.s. government incentivizing parents to send their children across the border alone because that is their best chance to enter and stay in the united states? >> certainly you heard the president say in this interview that he conducted that he is encouraging people not to come. now is not the time to come. this is not a safe journey for people to take of any age. he believes as he talked about last night that no parent is looking and making a bet whether their kid can make it, this is a difficult and treacherous journey. most of these kids are fleeing very challenging circumstances. his view is that there's a number of steps that we need to take and steps he hope he can work with democrats and republicans on. that's his goal. >> how is that message being communicated by the u.s. government to those thousands perhaps tens of thousands already in the midst of this dangerous journey that they're making to the border right now and not receiving that message? >> the thousands of children or thousands of families -- >> children, families, adults. all of them. >> we convey with every official that speaks -- secretary mayorkas, you've heard roberta jacobson and officials speaking with countries, working in partnership with them, speaking through channels in the region that now is not the time to come. the border is not open, this is a treacherous journey. the vast majority of people will be send back on their journey. >> it seems maybe it's a mixed message. initially alejandro mayorkas said don't come now, right? then we heard from the president saying don't come, the u.s. is in the process so in your home country you can apply for asylum. >> yeah. >> how do you -- it appears to be mixed message or a mixed message which is don't come now, others don't come at all. >> i think this is no doubt a complicated circumstance. what we're trying to do is address this and effective and humane manner. that requires putting in place additional policies and measures. you referenced one of them, which is reinstituting the cam program, which would allow kids to apply from their home country that is an option -- >> how long would that take? >> we're hoping that can happen soon. i don't have act exact time line. we would like that back in place. it was a program in place and ended in 2017. so that's an example. we want to build beyond that so we can have programs where it ensures that kids are not taking this difficult journey, that they have other choices and other options. and this will take more time. we're going to keep seeing the cycles. this is not the first cycle. 2014, 2018. the numbers have been increasing since april 2020 of last year. unless we work together, democrats and republicans to address the root causes. the president worked with now senator lindsey graham as an example on a bill to get more funding to address the route causes in these countries. if we don't take the steps now, we'll keep being on these circles year after year. >> last question. we talked about the topic of the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. my question is why did president biden feel the need to weigh-in, to say the claims of these women were confirmed the governor would likely be prosecuted? >> the president respects law enforcement and the justice system as we state from here and he's stated. he was asked a specific question about what should happen and if the investigation confirms the claims of t