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spending project in united states history. where is that money going to go? dan henninger writes that as soon as the bill is signed, covid is over. we'll talk about that when he and jason riley joins us. prince william speaking out about his brother's accusations. a royal insider that has more on harry and meghan with brand new response to the latest from prince william on this story that everybody is paying attention to. first, it is the case that caught the attention of the entire country. it's celebrated the black lives matter movement. third degree murder is now back on the table for derrick chauvin. he charged in the killing of george floyd. this broadened the possibility for the jury in their decision and that jury selection is underway. it's a difficult process as you might imagine. some are asking to be removed for fear of what could happen to them or their families. watch this. >> can you tell us why you weren't sure? >> it's more from a safety standpoint. as far as i'm concerned, i feel comfortable and safe but i wouldn't want any issues or harm to come to my wife or my family. learn individuals are out to intimidate or cause harm. they knew where i lived. it's a potential they could damage the house or spray paint the house or garage door or break a window. >> martha: long process there. minneapolis bracing for what could happen if chauvin is found guilty or not guilty and what will be the most watched case in a very long time in this country. we think parts of the city are being wrapped in fencing and barbed wire. matt finn is on the ground in minneapolis as this story gets started. matt, good to see you. >> remarkable. four days into this trial and we have the issue of whether or not derrick chauvin would be charged with third degree murder. the prosecution asked for the trial to be stopped until this issue was resolved. the judge reinstated the third degree murder charge against former officer chauvin. it's considered a loss nor the defense. the judge said from the bench, he doesn't agree with the third degree charge but he feels bound by the appellate court rulings that it should be reinstated. former officer derrick chauvin is charged with second degree murder and third degree murder. the judge said he disagrees with the third degree murder charge because by definition in this case, third degree murder is when a person causes the death of another person or people by a dangerous act to others. the examples given were firing a gun or driving a car into a crowd. however, the appellate court saided that single person is george floyd. here's the judge. >> i'm bound by that. i have to apply the rule. even though they're factually different, i have to follow the rule specifically murder in the third degree inflies in the person's intents or acts are given to a single person. >> martha, you mentioned the jurors that fear for their lives. we've been listening in. a short while ago, an unidentified potential juror took to the bench and told the judge when he filled out his questionnaire, his wife indicated that they feared being harmed and that he wrote or indicated he didn't want his wife to know. you can see the trucks behind me, the fencing, the razor wire. the national guard is here. this court is under an immense lock down, high secure here in minneapolis, martha. >> martha: thanks, matt. my next guest, shelby steele, has study the issue of race for decades. last year she released a film called "what killed michael brown." he was killed by a white police officer in ferguson, missouri. shelby steele is a senior fellow at the hoover institution and he joins me now. welcome back. good to have you with us today. obviously there's a lot of parallels in many ways. every single case is individual. every circumstance is unique to what happened in these situations. that's why we have trials, that's why we have juries and that's why we do investigations. as you look at your work on michael brown's case, what goes through your mind as you look ahead to this case of derrick chauvin and george employed in -- floyd? >> it's like so many cases. there's trayvon martin, freddie gray, michael brown. each one of them sort of boils down to a kind of power struggle in which we're -- when a white shootses and killing a black, it revokes imagery of our past, our shameful racist past, the oppression blacks is lived under and brings forward a moral power that is really considerable. so an event like this, freddie gray, is covered all over the world, there's so much power there. seems to confirm the idea that racism is systemic. that it touches every area of life. the minorities are not forever, almost for breathing air, victimized by racism. and therefore empowered to change society, to have an impact on society. and they do. look at what freddie gray has transformed corporate america already in a matter of months. major corporations have diversity programs, include programs, all sorts of symbolic gestures to indicate that they're not a part of that ugly shameful racist past. >> martha: you see an impact in schools and curriculums. you know, cancel culture and all of that, don't you? >> let me back up for a minute. what happened in the 60s was that american confessed to evil, to four centuries of oppression. what we have not fully absorbed, we're beginning to, the deficit of moral authority that that gave traditional america. white america particularly. they now are associated with that confession. you can't confess something without opening yourself to a vulnerability. and that vulnerability is what i call white guilt. white guilt is sort of weaponizes that historic shame. uses it to coerce people. so in the article that you're referring to where the parents and very elite prep school feel that their kids are being pushed around by this sort of political correctness that is so pervasive today, essentially we're looking at a white guilt phenomenon. they don't feel the moral confidence to resist it. >> martha: terrified. >> take a stand against it. >> martha: terrified the impact would have on their kids futures. the children don't want to speak out. shelby, thanks very much. always good to talk to you. hope you join us as we move through this trail with the background that you have and writing about it. good to see you, sir. joining me now, richard fowler, senior fellow at the new leader's council and a fox news contributor. your thoughts. the barbed wire, the fencing, the difficulty in placing a jury in this trial as we look ahead to a story that we'll be hearing and thinking a lot about in the weeks and months to come. >> well, i think you're right. we'll be thinking about hearing about this story. what this story should do for all americans, should cause us to pause and ask us what we can do better to treat each other. anybody that watched that video of the eight minutes and 47 seconds that ended? george floyd's death can see that we have a societal problems that goes around -- call it hatred and how we have to do everything in our power to ensure that moments like that don't happen. we teach our children -- >> martha: anybody that watches that video is disgusted for humanity and for george floyd. but we're about to enter a process, a jury process, about to enter a courtroom process. this is what the country is built on. each side has the fair moment to have every bit of evidence play out in this case. so the truth is that we have to wait for that process to play out. we have to respect that process. i don't know that it is wise for us as a society to extrapolate about the ramifications of this incident. we know it set off a lot that made people think and reflect and set off a lot of changes. but i think it's really important to respect this process and not prejudge what will come out of this. >> i think that's right. i don't think anybody can prejudge what this jury will do. my hope is here, martha, action we watch this trial happen, we can begin to have honest conversations about how we create a better society and how we look at people based on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. >> martha: exactly. we've gotten so far away from that actually. >> that's right. >> martha: go ahead. >> and i think we have to ask ourselves the question, if george floyd were white, would this be the fate that he would suffer. if the answer is no, then we've got to do better work as neighbors to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> martha: thanks, richard. just the beginning of this process as we watch it ploy out. great to see you. so the ink is not yet dry on president biden's $2 trillion spending bill. have you looked at what is in this bill? and how much money $2 trillion actually is? so is this a turning point in covid? are we about to turn the corner based on this bill and based on the reality of where we are with the virus? stick around for wise words from the "wall street journal." and it's a long flight 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henninger joining us with jason riley from the manhattan institute. thanks for being here. dan, what do you mean the pandemic goes away? that means it goes away tomorrow. >> yeah, it does. normalcy will start to return tomorrow. you know, martha, the data suggested that it is returning. a lot more people are getting vaccinated and you know, the white house keeps saying the previous administration left them with a covid mess. the previous administration indeed left them with were three excellent vaccines from moderna, pfizer and johnson & johnson. those vaccines are now beginning to have an effect. the second corner being turned, the economy is clearly recovering. jobless claims this week were way down. people are going back to work. even states like new york and california are beginning to rep open. so the economy is reviving. hopefully nearly two trillion bill that the president signed today will be the last of these multi-trillion dollar bills that we have to see to revive the economy. now it's time for people to get back to work, get vaccinated and get back to normalcy. i think we're going to see that. >> martha: i think it's happening. people were honking horns. the only people honk horns is there's people in your car or cars in your way. that is a good sign. jason, you see something deeper in this bill that it's not just a turning point, which is a separate point to be made. it also transformative in terms of the way that it treats the united states economy. >> certainly. the best evidence and even acknowledgement by the democrats that we turned the corner is the small portion of the bill actually devoted to covid, martha. a small fraction is going to things like testing and contract tracing and vaccine distribution. a tiny goes to it. the rest is state bailouts and unemployment insurance and obama subsidies and the like. stuff that has nothing to do with covid and all about i think making the welfare statement much larger than it has been, this is about expanding the cradle to grave entitlement system. the democrats have seen the opportunity and pounced on it. that's what you see in this bill. >> martha: it's a transformative measure and keeps people on unemployment longer. what is the impact of that? >> keeping people on unemployment longer is a disincentive to work, a lot of this money is a disincentive to work. there's a contradiction in there. employers in construction are saying that they cannot find workers to do the jobs that are available right now. if people are deterred from taking the jobs because of the bill the democrats have passed, the economy -- it's going to be a strong recovery. no question about it. it's going to be strong. but employers are going to have trouble finding people to work and some point the biden administration is going to have to deal with the consequences in this bill. >> martha: jason, big address from the president. he said he would be speaking tonight after he signed the bill in a moment in the oval office there. >> i expect him to take credit for the progress we've seen and to say this bill is necessary to continue that progress. but of course, i think that progress would happen irrespective of the bill. the initial objective was, that was to shut down until we can lower that hospitalization rate. so our healthcare system wouldn't be overwhelmed. that was the goal. not to shut down until the virus had been vanquished from existence. this is something that we have to live with going forward. just like we get past flu seasons and vaccines. this is the post covid reality for the foreseeable future. we have to deal with that. we can deal with it without expanding the welfare state to the extend that the biden administration wants to. >> martha: thanks, jason and dan. great to see you both. coming up, the migrant president. that is the way that the leader of mexico is referring to president biden now in terms of the hope that he's given to a lot of people in south and central 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covid-19 relief and the covid-19 stimulus package, the $1.9 trillion that he inked his name on today. there's going to be a celebration here tomorrow but we found out a few minutes ago that the invite list only went to half the congress. >> the celebration tomorrow will be a bipartisan -- i mean, a bicameral event. it will not be bipartisan. it will be -- it will include leadership. >> concerning immigration, the crisis -- they don't want to call it a crisis. the situation at the border is building. we've heard from sources down there that revealed to us that unless somebody goes through a port of entry or apprehended somewhere else and shows symptoms, they are not tested for covid-19 by a nongovernmental association. the federal government is not giving out any covid tests for people at the border whereas they do that if you fly in to the country from a foreign country and say land at an airport. so i had some questions about that. >> people at the border say migrants are only tested if they show symptoms. that seems like it's a loop hole. >> this is system that was addressed to ensure that people are tested. governor abbott, i raise that because he raised the concern about that. i wanted to be clear that we put forward a proposal, so the question is why is he standing in the way of local communities getting the funding and support that they need to help with isolation and quarantining efforts. >> jen psaki said that the president will make news tonight but we expect it to be about covid relief. >> martha: thanks, peter. my next guest has been crunching the numbers on the southern border surge, marc thiessen, a fox news contributor. i'd like to ask you about something that peter reported. it's been over a week since president biden has addressed this migrant situation in any way. he's been shouted questions about it and it really feels like a situation that is crying out for some assessment by the president and what he plans to do about it. >> that's right. he has not spoken to us about anything. hasn't had a formal press conference since taking offense. covid, why he's not pursuing a bipartisan approach on covid, why he's not approaching the crisis at the border. it is a crisis. tuesday there were 3,400 unaccompanied minors. ten day as, 1,700. doubled in ten days. to put that in perspective, at the height of the border crisis in 2019, the most the customs and border patrol had was 2,600. this is bigger than what ever acknowledged was a crisis in 2019. the dhs projections are that about 117,000 children are going to attempt to cross the southern border this year. this is a massive crisis. we don't have anywhere to put them, we don't have enough beds. the law says that these kids are supposed to be transferred into custody of health and human services and family friendly or child friendly facilities. but the hhs had 500 beds available. 2,300 kids in adult detention center and nowhere for the government to put them. thi

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