"the ingraham angle." the upcoming trial has had people bracing for weeks of protests. have you seen that razor wire. tonight we get an update from business owners who had their dreams burned to the ground literally during the george floyd riots last summer. also, the unreported details of megan merkel and harry, cast you new light on that big interview. raymond arroyo has it all in "seen and unseen." time to retire the control freaks. that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> it was just about this time last year when people began to lose their minds. remember? they were paying $50 for a $6 pack of anti-bacterial wipes on amazon and lining up at all the grocery stores to buy carts full of toilet paper, paper towels, diswashing detergents, bleach, and enough batteries to power a small city. dr. fauci, he was still only a fledgling star, but you could tell he was basking in the glow. >> what's the danger of minimizing the risk of an infectious disease outbreak? >> well, i mean, the danger of minimization in any arena of infectious disease and outbreak is that you might get people to be complacent, number one. number two, when bat things happen your credibility is lost because you downplayed something. >> laura: and now one year and a staggering number of deaths later we know what we should know, truth about covid. namely, fact that young americans have a greater chance of being killed in a car crash than dying from this virus. and then there is this truth. states with mask mandates fared no better with the virus than those without mask mandates. and we know that lockdowns don't change the cycle of the virus either. just look at california and new york versus florida and texas. we know that kids kept out of school suffer greatly. the isolation, the loneliness, has driven more teenagers to take their own lives or overdose on drugs. we know the schools that have stayed open, they haven't become super spreaders, parochial schools with smaller budgets somehow managed to keep their kids in the classroom and kept everyone safe with creativity and simple protocols. we know this virus is especially hard on those who are obese, diabetic and hypertensive but if you were watching "the angle" last spring, you would have already known. all of these things hypertension, diabetes, made people much more susceptible to having a serious complication. even co-morbidity. your patient's preconditions when they come in and that they already have underlying conditions, many of them. obesity being one, and high bmi. well, we know that we have therapeutics such as inhaled steroids. simple over the counter medicines, vitamin d-3 and zinc. we know the fda has in many way failed us by not allowing for the hughes o use of ivermectin hydroxychloroquine. the cdc stipulates that 83 million americans were infected in 2020, which means they are protected by the antibodies and run likely to develop covid. at least for the time being because of their innate immunity as well. t-cell immunity, you bet. so it wasn't surprising to see this headline today. in illinois, they just had the lowest one-day death toll since september. florida saw its lowest hospitalizations since september and in arizona covid charts are looking good across all metrics. and in hawaii and wisconsin, even more good news. the data, we're currently seeing the slowest spread of the coronavirus since the pandemic began. what's the cdc's respond? more guidance disketted from reality. you've got the vaccine and now you think, thank goodness i've got the vaccine. i'm home-free. apparently it's masks forever. >> when fully vaccinated people are visiting with unvaccinated people in multiple households everyone should wear a mask and physically distance and meet outdoors in a well ventilated space. >> laura: wait. we're closer to herd immunity. we have more vaccinations. a lot of people with t-cell immunity and the cdc still doesn't think we should be free? >> everyone whether vaccinated or not should continue to avoid large size gatherings as well as nonessential travel and when in public spaces should continue to wear a well fitted mask, physically distance, and follow other public health measures to protect themselves and others. >> laura: this is completely insane. and it's the reason we still see people wearing masks while driving alone in their cars. the vaccines were sold as a way to get our lives back but obviously that's not true. of all the public health officials, though, who have been consistently wrong, former biden covid adviser michael -- is in a category of his own. recall he's the one who consistently claims that we're in the worst weeks of the pandemic. and he never does a maya kulpa when he's wrong. he simply keeps repeating himself and doubling down on doom. this is his big pronouncement. >> you wouldn't catch me tonight in a crowded restaurant somewhere even with my vaccination. >> laura: good. stay home, mike. more room for the rest of us at the restaurant. too many of us, though, have lost our ability or maybe the will to think for ourselves during this time. sometimes we've abandoned common sense and instead we adhere to the edicts of an expert class that's neither expert or classy. their rules and advise keep changing. it was 15 days to slow the spread. now it's closer to maybe 15 months. last summer dr. redfield said masks were as good as vaccines and if we wore masks for about two months it would basically be over. instead cases spiked. and just for all time's sake let's remember the wise words of dr. fauci one year ago today. >> there is no reason to be walking around with a mask. when you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. >> laura: of course, he later did a 180. for noble reasons, though, right? he went from no masks to you must wear a mask to you must wear two masks. it's time for us to break free from the cycle of failed experts. and frankly, unconstitutional orders. if you're trapped in a blue state that won't open up, that denies the data, and the science, that bows to the teacher's unions, it's time to get up and either leave altogether or get involved in politics. on the local level, on the state level, in any way you can. a year later it's time to retire or just ignore the control freaks. it's time to declare victory and move on. and that's the angle. joining me now is dr. harvey rich, professor of epidemiology at yale school of public health and dr. jay -- from stanford university, epidemiology professor as well. doctor, why have we allowed the cdc to apparently have so much sway about the way we think about our lives and even think about our freedom? >> yes, i saw a cnn headline that said that the cdc has given people vaccinated their freedom back. the cdc doesn't have that power. what the cdc should be doing is they should be giving good scientifically-based advice and trust people to make good judgments based on what they know. for vaccinated people that means you're immune. it's very, very unlikely you're going to pass this on to anybody. live your life freely. it long pastime they give that advice and i'm glad they finally stepped up to that. >> laura: dr. rich, the big announcement today from the cdc, if you're vaccinated, strike up the band because then you can be in a room indoors with other vaccinated people and maybe take your mask off or be with small children and people are like thank you, thank you, for giving us a little bit of our lives back. dr. rich, i'm not an immunologist, but it seems a lot of people have forgotten basic i am nothing who supposedly learned it in medical school? >> we've made everything black or white. so either the masks protector they don't. either the vaccines reduce transmission or they don't and this kind of thinking has led to the closest approximation to the truth which isn't the truth. the masks help maybe a little. the vaccines help a bit. everything helps when you add it all up but you can't make definitive statements so when the cdc makes definitive statements it's just an approximation and it's not very accurate. >> laura: with most adults who have not yet been vaccinated, dr. fauci is already talking about vaccinating children. watch. >> we project that high school students will very likely be able to be vaccinated by the fall term. maybe not the very first day, but certainly in the early part of the fall for that fall educational term. elementary school kids, they likely will be able to get vaccinated by the very first quarter of 2022. >> laura: doctor, why are we even talk vaccinating a group that's extremely unlikely to get sick from covid, die from covid, and that we don't even have a lot of indication that have spread covid to teachers or the adults around them? >> yes, i think it's just a mistake. the vaccine trials themselves have not actually checked for whether they work in children at all. the vaccines work in children. the harm from infection, from covid to children is actually, i mean, more children died of the flu last year. even though the flu disappeared in the fall, than covid. so for children, the idea that they should be vaccinated sort of fails the basic test. would you benefit a child by vaccinating them with covid? no. i think the answer is on net no. for someone who is older and in vulnerable groups, absolutely. vaccine is a great idea but for children i don't understand why you would want to vaccinate children with this -- for a condition like this. vaccinate children for measles, absolutely. vaccinate children for covid, i don't see the argument. >> laura: dr. rich, i hear this from parents all the time and they watch this segment because this is what they are so interested in. you both have been so invaluable as time has gone on. they are really worried that their child is not going to be able to be enrolled in schools, public and private, if they don't get this vaccine. do you see this coming conflict, and where do you see this playing out? how do you see this playing out? especially if kids were already exposed and had some type of exposure and obviously conferred some immunity that way as well. >> this is unconscionable. the state has no interest in vaccinating people that doesn't reduce the transmissability very much because the only interest in the state is to protect people who get exposed to other people. if vaccination doesn't reduce that very much then the state has no interest. it cannot mandate a behavior that's an experiment on humans. it violates the nurenberg code in order to do experiments on people that have no interest from the state in the first place. >> laura: doctor, really quickly, we mentioned him before, michael osterholm is out with yet another dire prediction. >> we still have a lot of high-risk people out there that when this surge comes basically they are going to be highly vulnerable. the other thing we see right now is every governor wants to open schools but the problem is if you look at europe right now the challenge we're seeing is a lot of transmission in schools with this new variant. >> we're going to have some tough days ahead in the older population and in the younger population. >> laura: dr.? >> i think you have to understand, we've already vaccinated something like 50% or 60% of people, in many states over 65. a lot of the people who are at risk of dying are actually vaccinated. are not going to die. it's pessimism for its own sake and not likely to come true. >> laura: dr. doom once again. gentlemen, great to see you again. thank you so much. >> it's a pleasure. >> laura: we'll get to some other really important news on covid in just a moment but right now breaking news at the border. despite biden's denials of a crisis brewing the "new york times" is reporting just moments ago that the number of unaccompanied migrant children detained along the southern border has tripled in the last two weeks alone to more than 3,250. more than 1,360 of the children have been detained beyond the 72 hours permitted by law before a child must be transferred to a shelter. joining me now is senator cotton and i know he wants answers here. senator, why is joe biden waiting until later this week for a briefing from his team on this growing security health-related and humanitarian cries kiss of his own making? >> hi, laura. it's good to be on with you and that's a great question because we have a crisis at the border. this is the biden border crisis. joe biden and the democrats may not think it's a border crisis so they don't believe in borders so by definition they don't think there can be a crisis at the border but the american people know we have a crisis there and this is altogether predictable, in fact, predicted. i said last year during the campaign you cannot promise amnesty and open borders and healthcare for illegal aliens and not expect a migrant crisis at our border. what's happened? not just in the last few weeks but every month since the election we've seen increased numbers at our southern border and they sent a team down this week to ask about whether or not there were enough teachers there or what the accommodations were for kids. how about the team ask what are we doing to stop it and turn these migrants back and tell them this is not the way to come to america? >> laura: senator, press secretary or president biden today said they have to basically be better with their messaging on this. is this a messaging problem when you have 1 hundred and what, 80 kids or 30 kids, under the age of 13, some kept in these cement cells that they were getting on trump for having to keep people in temporarily until he basically solved the border problem. >> no, laura. when a politician tells you they have a message or communications problem is that they have a reality problem and the reality problem is that they created a crisis at our southern border by inviting the entire world to show up and claim asylum. look. donald trump turned away people who were seeking asylum and told them to stay in mexico and that their claims could be adjudicated in an orderly fashion from mexico. joe bide isn't seeking out those illegal aliens and inviting them to come back to the border. we've gone far beyond catch and release. this is recruit and release. they are specifically recruiting illegal aliens we've already turned once and letting them back in. the simple fact is, if you're from central america and you're seeking asylum you do that at the southern border of mexico. when you get to the southern border of the united states, you're seeking asylum, a better job and better living conditions. >> laura: remember, they were sent out of the united states immediately during covid because we're not supposed to be bringing people into the country who are potential covid risk, but that was suspended, done away with by president biden. >> a little over a year ago i remember this, you were getting hammered for suggesting that covid originated in wuhan lab but now josh -- today revealed that in 2018 diplomats warned of risky coronavirus experiments in the wuhan lab and the u.s. government had evidence that the labs were performing gain of function research on a much larger scale than was publicly disclosed. has the nih explained why the trump administration was kind of lowest with that order by the obamas, to relieve us of the suspension of gain of function because it was suspended in the united states for a number of years and then it was resumed at the end of -- basically at the end of the obama administration. >> yes. the nih has not explained that and they have some explaining to do, laura. there have been recent emails and other correspondence turned up. the freedom of information act releases that shows the nih was more focused on coordinating their message with china and not offending chinese sensibilities than they were on getting these facts before the american people. the existence of these cables goes back to josh rogin's reporting last year. diplomats went to wuhan in 2018 and they found that sometimes chinese labs have sloppy practices. even back to the sars practice 20 years ago, we knew some of the sars viruses had escaped because of negligence and competence at labs and when you combine incompetence and negligence on the one hand and communist malady on the other -- >> laura: we'll find out more, but i'm not holding my breath. thanks for your work on the gain of function issue and the border issue as well. >> thank you, laura. >> laura: with the jury selection of george floyd in the trial, the city is at risk of descending to chaos. we're going to hear from two people. >> my husband was asleep. i said you need to wake up now. -- is going to burn down at any minute and we sat there and watched it melt to the groundings all of our hard work. ♪ it's only human to care for those we love. and also help light their way. ♪♪ it's why last year chevron invested billions of dollars to bring affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy to america. ♪♪ hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? 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