eventually in future missions will be returned to earth. it is staggering everything that had to go well in that seven minutes from orbit to touching down on the crater believed maybe some billions of years ago to have sustained water or the means of life. it is going to be digging in to that sediment, which is, well, seem like nasa was dig all that it was hearing. this was welcomed news. there are landings and then there are historic ones like this. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto and you're out of this world today. to put this in perspective, this was like trying to throw a dart from new york to washington. sight unseen and hit it right in the middle. that is a generous comparison. statistically something like this had never been done before and this at a time when right as we speak right now china and the united arab emirates have space craft circling mars at this time and eventually aim to land on that martian surface in the very near future. we are there right now. this is the eighth successful martian mission for the united states out of nine attempts. the mars polar lander crashed on entry but still was able to record results back in 1999. but, other countries haven't come close to what is being mastered here. but this is a global achievement. and the magnitude of it and getting back to the idea that we can find light and maybe the origins of life and hints that we are not alone is staggering the possibility. some of the things that will make this interesting and i want to pick up what the former nasa administrator jim bridenstine of the fact that this will include the use of a helicopter. you heard me right. traditional helicopter and a rover and cameras, lots of themselves. 4 k quality and more than a dozen of them. oh, yeah. something else. two microphones to pick up sound on the martian surface. i don't know why someone never came up with that idea in the first place but now it's going to be there. jim bridenstine, very good to have you. thank you. >> thank you, great to be here. >> neil: i cannot express enough -- same here, jim. i cannot express enough just how remarkable this is. mission we have ever seen the unmanned variety. there is a lot that they had to do just right and they did it just right in this landing. what do you think? >> it's amazing. i want to start by congratulating the nasa workforce and our contractors, the jet propulsion lab, call tech all of the partners that helped put this together. what an amazing day for nasa and the united states. your level of excitement, neil, is palpable. and i hope all of america feels that same way. think about this. all of those missions that came before that you mentioned this is the eighth time we have landed on mars. all of those missions that came before, we learned that mars at one time the northern hemisphere was covered in water. two thirds of it was covered in water. we know that thick atmosphere that it had a magnet ic sphere that protected it from the deep space. we know it because of past missions. now, for the first time, we actually sent an astro biology mission to mars to make a determination if there was in fact past life on mars. and just in the last two years, neil, we have discovered that mars is covered in complex organic compounds. the building blocks of life exist all over mars. they of course exist all over the earth. but they are not on the moon at all. zero on the moon but they are all over mars and all over earth. we also know that mars very well could have had -- could, in fact, it does have even today, water. liquid water, 12-kilometers under its surface. and we know that the methane cycles of mars match the seasons of mars. all of this conspires to say that the probability of finding life on another world is going up and it's going up rapidly. so it is perfectly appropriate that now we are sending an astro biology mission to mars and we are going to one of the hardest places to land. this is why it is so important to congratulate the nasa workforce. they landed in the jezro crater not just in the crater at the river delta. there is evidence of an ancient river there. and that river delta that flows into the crater which used to be a lake bed landing in that is one of the hardest things nasa has ever done. and it' as as of right now it appears that they have successfully done that the reason that matters is if there is a chance to find signs of ancient life that is a place to find it. this is a very exciting day for nasa, for the united states and certainly for me. congratulations to the amazing work of the nasa team. >> neil: yeah. i remember you were in the planning days for this, jim. what makes it remarkable is i was thinking, you know, landing in this crater all sorts of boulders and everything there has been well photographed and also it was already fed all of this data to try to be like the. >> neil: armstrong of this vehicle where in his case in 1969 landing on the moon discovered boulders and rocks that he had to on his own renavigate that landings a little bit. that was something that he saw. this was essentially a case of this vessel having to see trouble and act accordingly. it was like a sequence. you needed the heat shield and degree balanced and everything coming into the martian surface. you needed the parachute and rocket thrusters and sky crane that lowered it into the crater to avoid all those rocks in the crater. man o man if i'm watching this and 11 minute delay to get the signal back, i'm having palpitations at cape canaveral. >> that's right. >> neil: i'm sure you have been through these sort of things you are too, right? >> what makes this even more unique is the actual touchdown itself was done under autonomous terrain relative navigation. think of a space craft that can actually see the surface and then make smart decision decisions and all of this is done autonomously on a vehicle that was launched back in july. this is, again, one of the most complex things nasa has ever done. and it appears, i want to be clear, we haven't seen the pictures just yet, but it appears that they have nailed it. so, it's pretty exciting. >> neil: yeah, now we are waiting for that first image and you don't want -- some people oh my god what if they landed upside down. it doesn't look like that's the case. we don't know so we will see. the helicopter thing, jim, just blows me away. this thing can fly for 90 seconds at a time. 16 feet in the air. i guess it's going to take some aerial photos. and it can deal with the harsh atmosphere which is mostly most carbondioxide. that's got to be one strong little helicopter. >> it is. very light about four pounds. , it's unlike any other helicopter in the sense that the atmosphere on mars is about 1/100s of the atmosphere on earth. which means the aerodynamics are very different. here is what is fundamentally traps for immigrational. how we explore world in the future if this helicopter works, to be clear, this is a technology demonstrator. but, if it works, this can fundamentally transform how we do exploration of other worlds in the future. and right now we have a mission called dragonfly that's going to, you know, a moon of saturn called titan and we are going to actually try to fly a helicopter on another moon of another world to get more science and more data than we have ever been able to get before. so this is just -- this is great time in space exploration. and if this little helicopter we call it ingenuity, named by a student. it's little helicopter is successful, it's going to transform how we do exploration. >> >> neil: do you know what i think is really cool two microphones and pick up sound. >> that's right. >> neil: what if you landed on something somebody get off of me. i always -- why didn't they ever do that before? it seems like such a neat thing. i'm looking forward as much to hears a i am to see, you know, these images and sounds coming, you know, from the martian -- >> that's right. and we will be able to get all kinds of weather data, if you can imagine. that so when fox news does its weather broadcasting you guys are going to call jim bridenstine and you are going to say hey what's the weather like on mars and we will be able to tell you the temperature, the pressure, the humidity. we will be able to share with you what the dust storms are doing and there are all kinds of great censors on this thing that are transformational. the capability of assessing whether or not there is ancient life on mars it will be transformational because if we do find out evidence, it's going -- i would imagine there is going to be a lot of enthusiasm for nasa's budgets to increase and for us to go do even more spectacular things. the question is going to be, if we find that there was answer shent life on another world, the question is going to be where else is it? and what else does life look like that's not on earth? obviously we haven't made that discovery just yet but certainly if that discovery happens, it's important that that discovery be made by the united states of america and our partners and that we leverage that discovery to go add chapters to science books and history books. that's what this is all about. >> neil: just amazing thing is 50 years. we first made these attempts at circle mars and land on mars and it viking in the 70 here we are now rovers and helicopters return flights to bring rocks back. it's incredible. jim, thank you so much for taking the time. your enthusiasm young man is palpable so thank you. >> thank you, my honor. >> neil: all right, jim bridenstine. i want to go to dr. -- talk about a guy who is enthusiastic about this all over the possibilities of this long before. doctor, so good to have you. you know what's amazing if you think about it is eventually the goal is to get these sample specimens, and all of that back to earth to be studied. it won't be done with this mission but follow-up missions that are already being choreographed to hook up blast off the surface, transfers a lot of this stuff to these new rockets and back to earth. that is unprecedented. what do you make of it? >> that's right. >> think of rock retrieval as a treasury hears sal. a mini dress rehearsal for astronaut retrieval. the steps we are going to use to bring back rocks that is have a lander there. collect samples, have an orbiter, go back to the orbiter and planet earth. those are the same steps necessary to put humans on mars and bring them back alive. so i see this as a mini dress rehearsal for the ultimate exploration human exploration of mars. remember that in 2024, or so, we are going to go back to the moon. perhaps build an orbiter around the moon from which to build a mars rocket. or if you are elon musk, why not do it in just one big jump? so, when you see this mars mission, realize that this is the beginning, not the end, the beginning of a new era of space exploration. in the first era, we beat the russians, okay, we did it. we beat the russians. in the second era, we are going to outer space to stay in outer space. >> ready to begin. >> neil: john getty recently said it's in man's blood to look to the stars to conquer the stars. he could have just as easily talked about planets and satellites like the moon. but this is one leap in a direction complicated so much by these very precise features to get this going rover that will stand the martian surface and this helicopter that will be, you know, not only taking a look at images but giving us heretofore sights unseen. what are some of the things you are looking for, professor, or looking forward to? >> well, you know, rock retrieval is going to be a game changer. because we know that the conditions of mars once upon a time, if you few billion years ago, it had seas. it had oceans. but did it have life? and this could actually answer that key question. are we alone? that is life only on the planet earth or is it in outer space? and just, remember, this has other implications as well. the dinosaurs. the dinosaurs did not have a space program. and that's why they are not here today to talk about it. they didn't have a mars program. they didn't explore other worlds. and they paid the price. they are no longer here. we do have a mars program. we do have a space program, and this shows the ingenuity of nasa engineers shows a tremendous technological superiority that we have in country. >> neil: professor, so glad i have you here today. you put the right into you that as stick punch to it is a historic day. thank you, we are waiting for that first image to come from the space craft here. but i'm so reminded of my friend gene the last man to walk on the moon you know, neil, we are born to explore. we are born to acknowledge the times we live in and that we can't do this or won't do this. this attaches to our better assets, our better possibilities. our better frame of mind when you push your mind, when you reach for the stars. when you grasp at an opportunity like this when everyone says this is impossible. moments ago we learned something. it is not. and moments ago we also learned that though it is very, very cold in much of the atlantic covid-19 right now, where new york city it's 28 degrees, could be a little worse on mars right now it's 137 degrees below zero. stay with us. reat, carl. but we need something better. that's easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. and we can monitor to see that we're on track. like schwab intelligent income. schwab! introducing schwab intelligent income. a simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. oh, that's cool... i mean, we don't have that. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. go pro at subway® for double the protein on footlong subs and the new protein bowls. and if you want to go pro like marshawn, you don't let anything get in your way. here we go! yeah, appreciate you, man! go pro and get double the protein for just $2 more. it's not “pretty good or nothing.” it's not “acceptable or nothing.” double the protein and it's definitely not “close enough or nothing.” mercedes-benz suvs were engineered with only one mission in mind. to be the best. in the category, in the industry... in the world. lease the gla 250 suv for just $399 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. ♪ ♪i've got the brains you've got the looks♪ ♪let's make lots of money♪ ♪you've got the brawn♪ ♪i've got the brains♪ ♪let's make lots of♪ ♪uh uh uh♪ ♪oohhh there's a lot of opportunities♪ with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700. saving is easy when you're in good hands. allstate click or call to switch today. want to make a name for yourself in gaming? 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we report. you decide. >> isn't it true that being concerned about having enough to meet deposit requirements isn't that a liquidity problem or could you just answer "yes" or "no"? >> chairman waters, i appreciate the opportunity to address that. >> just yes or no. >> why did robinhood restrict the buying but not the selling of game stop? and why it did folks get locked out on the buy side only. >> robinhood order comes from a community, a community of traders who tend to trade in smaller size. >> that isn't my question, sir, you are evading my question by making up other questions. >> neil: all right, hillary vaughn you covered this. yes or no were you bored out of your mind? what was that all about, hillary? >> when you have someone like roaring kitty on the witness list, you cannot be bored, neil, but a lot of the. >> neil: true. >> drilling that came from lawmakers was really pointed to robinhood and their ceo today and their decision to cut customers off from buying gamestop stock right when it was starting to get good. it triggered outrage from their customers that wanted in and today it sparked a lot of questions from lawmakers who wanted to know why this happened. the ceo of robinhood under oath says they did not pause purchases of game stop because short sellers at big hedge funds were losing money but because they were running out of money to cover the deposit required for the sales because of the surge. that's a requirement that was put in place under dodd frank. but hedge fund's manager or ceo of citadel was also put on the spot and asked if they called up robinhood to try to pressure them to stop people from buying the stock. >> who is getting socked in this thing in the bullies are. the hedge funds. and that's why people were excited about this. the public thinks that there was collusion and you talk to them about restricting or doing anything to prevent people from buying, not selling but buying in game stop? anybody in your organization? >> let me be perfectly clear. absolutely not. >> so if we depose everyone in your organization, what will find that. >> that is correct. >> the question earn wants the answer to, what will congress do once this hearing is over? there was an idea floated by some democrats that a financial transaction tax might be the answer but they heard from an expert witness today from the cato institute that said a tax like that would only hurt retail investors, many of them that are trying to benefit from the stock market to save for their retirement. neil? >> neil: all right. hillary, that was a little longer than a yes or no answer. [laughter] you did a great job covering this today and man o man, that was a lot to cover all day long on both networks covering that hillary vaughn, thank you very much. where is taylor's point, where is all of this going? south carolina republican congressman william is with us right now on the house financial services committee doing all of this questioning. congressman, good to have you. >> good afternoon, thanks for having me on. >> neil: no, thank you, sir. maxine waters, the chairman, it seems to be moving on the side of washington doing something. should it? >> well, i think it should do something. and that's reconsider the capital requirements for every day americans investment vehicle. and that's robinhood and ameritrade and it's these up and coming businesses are unable to have three plus billion dollars cash on hand to meet the capital requirements under dodd frank. we should revisit that and we also need to revisit the fact that in 2021 here we are taking two days to complete a trade? ridiculous. we should do something but not the things i believe my colleagues across the aisle are considering. >> neil: all right. who is at fault for this, do you think? >> say that again? i'm sorry. >> neil: who is at fault in your eyes? who do you blame? >> i actually think that dodd frank was written 11 years ago. and if we're going to look at culpability, i think we have got to look at the root cause of this. and robinhood did not have sufficient capital to continue trading. it had a choice to essentially shut down its entire plot form or to restrict trade with certain stocks. so, it did the best it could. it is a disrupt tia technology democratization of finance. i think we should encourage access to markets to every american that don't have hedge funds or institutional investors representing them. i'm fully in favor of allowing people that want to he invest in publicly traded companies that ability. so i don't think robinhood is at fault. congress need to revisit dodd frank and make sure that everyday americans have access to investing in publicly traded companies. >> neil: they certainly have the access, congressman. it might have been a case of, you know, everyone wanting access all at the same time. and there is only so wide endured to exit when you want to exit. some people also got a little greedy. do you blame some of these individual investors that are chasing stock's that are gunning them up from a game stop that started around 20 and 40 and almost $500 a share that sometimes it's on them that, you know, it's not an issue of regulation as much as it's on you. sometimes you make money. sometimes you don't. what do you think? >> i think personal responsibility is everything in this world. whether that's with covid or investing. you know, if somebody wants to go to out in public and not wear a mask, i think they should be able to do it. if somebody wants to invest in game stop at $48 a share. i think she should be able to do. this whether either one of those is wise is another conversation. our entire free market is based on personal responsibility. that's where i end up. >> neil: all right. we will see what happens. congressman, thank you very much. i want to bring charlie gasparino into this right now. charlie, you know, something to be done to make sure that i guess things are liquid enough for any firm robinhood among them to be able to handle these orders. i think that's what the congressman was getting at. what do you think of that? >> well, robinhood wept out and did that, just that. it raised capitol because now it knows it needs do that. it learned by its mistakes taking a reputational hit by not being able to do its ipo so soon. you have to realize the market do work in mysterious ways. people lost money in this trade because they were overextended and overleveraged and were gambling. those were both big hedge funds like melvin capital and small investors. robinhood was not prepared with enough capital to handle massive flow of sales of buying volume. therefore had to raise capital and it annoyed its customers. and that's the way it's supposed to work. i don't think there is anything systemic here. it's funny listening to these congressman ask questions in such a way like in such a gotcha way when they all know the answer. they know the answer that robinhood wasn't colluding with citadel. citadel wants more trading. robinhood wants more trading so it can sell those -- so robinhood can sell those trades and make the markets in those trades. it's all about making money. everything they have brought up is absurd. melvin capital made a mistake and they got crushed for it. they needed a bailout, essentially. you know, the market -- >> neil: limited for time, my friend. i just want to be clear. i wonder if the environment we li in where rates are so low and they are getting a little higher but very, very low. you know, and you see this enormous run-up in some big stock technology stocks, amazon, everyone want something like that. and i'm wondering if the environment with these ridiculously low rates. fully justified. i'm not here to judge that that it's the only place to be. you have to the to be in the market. the more you are in, the more you seek out crazy ideas to stay in the market. and you are going to get burned. you will get screwed. and i don't know if there is any legislation that could prevent people from doing stupid things. >> you are so right. because every bubble that has occurred if a bubble game stop thing is a bubble. there was a housing bubble. before that a.com bubble. you have these things. most of these things directly related at least in large part or in part to easy money from the fed. now we have the mother of all easy money. so you are going to get. this that's really the problem. the rest of this stuff everybody poundings the table saying you are a bad guy. let's hold wall street accountable is all nonsense. it's bologna. and, you know, but we never learn from that. you know, easy money comes with a price. and it's often in speculation because you have to go out on the spectrum to make a return. and it's easier to borrow. so, therefore, you can buy whatever house you want or any stock you want on margin. and it just feeds on itself. >> neil: if it sound too good to be true, charlie, oftentimes it. >> absolutely. >> neil: great reporting on this my friend. all over this story gotten more on this than anybody has. charlie gasparino. teachers, what's the problem? 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>> i mean, when will nancy pelosi, the democrat politicians and the teacher's union stop playing politics with our children? they are being held hostage. they are pawns in their political game. and do you know what nancy pelosi is really trying to do here? first of all we don't know where this money is going to come from. second of all it's a back door way for her to funnel money to liberal cities and states that have failed because of their lockdown policies that are now bankrupts these states and they have you know, basically nothing to show for it because we know these lockdowns don't work. red states like florida have been open all year without incident. what is the difference? nothing but republicans. do you know that kids that are back in school probably in private school and in my state it has been 100 days that they have been back to school. kids have missed 100 days. 500 hours of learning that our children are not going to get back. and do you know who is hurt most by this? generally inner city and under served communities where these children get two of the tree meals a day in the school. all this is doing is creating a bigger chasm between the haves and have notes. it's really shameful. >> i also on wondered uphill battle even for democrats to get 130 billion for schools. better ventilation, structural changes in classes way beyond what, you know, other states are doing right now to get those classes open. i'm wondering if it's sort of like a marker by which to delay getting kids back, period. that this is still -- until a couple of these are done, your second greater and other kids across the country are going to have to keep doing the virtual thing. what do you think? >> i mean, i think she is kicking the cap be down the road here. where is this money going to come from? she has been in washington the swamp so long that she just thinks money grows on trees. we have a massive deficit in this country. honestly she is not focusing on the children. she is focusing on the teacher's union. and the ones that they are failing is our children. it makes no sense. what about our frontline workers. what about our grocery store clerks? what about our truck drivers and other essential workers who have been in the streets and on the job since the beginning of the pandemic a year ago? why are the teachers any different? why are the teacher's union thinking they are above those other people? it's very sad and very disturbing and very very are a laundry rooming because we need to get these kids back in school. >> neil: all right. erin, thank you very much. remind me not to get in an argument with you. erin elmore a mother of a second grader legitimate beef and this is something that a lot of people are not thinking about that, you know, you could delay and delay all you want, but something has got to be done and preferably soon. we are on top of that you probably heard the ruckus watching this 1.9 trillion-dollar stimulus plan they want to hike the minimum wage. sometimes companies make decisions for own workers like walmart like now like a $5 wage already for maybe more than 425,000 of them? 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>> i think it does. i think other companies are going to have to compete to have the best employees. and i think amazon and walmart and targets can all afford. this unfortunately as i said the small businesses can't. what's really interesting and what proves this point on this announcement, despite great earnings, walmart stock dropped like crazy today. and it was just interesting. they know that they are going to recover from that and as the cost of living is continuously moving higher with commodities prices going up, you know, hard asset prices going up, et cetera, et cetera. you know, people are going to be more enthusiastic about shopping at places like walmart. walmart historically has disrupted the small businesses and so this is sort of more of the same. but, unfortunately, we have this wealth gap that we're going to have to deal with and small business is the big driver behind the historically low unemployment rate before the pandemic. >> neil: all right. we will have to sort it out. walmart put the hatchet down on this. right now the stock was under pressure talking about in its latest earnings report and frances touched about slowing growth this year. so this happened apart from that we will see. in the meantime here is there is a battle or a list of test of wills between president biden and chuck schumer over the issue of how much student debt to forgive? 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the two, alexandria ocasio-cortez and chuck schumer, want president biden to go further than $10,000 per student debt. they want $50,000. the president said that's not happening right now, and "i can't do that right now." they are not on the same page. i wonder if this is getting -- >> i don't know if it's getting nasty. i think what the president's saying is totally reasonable. he sang he doesn't favor $50,000 in student loan relief without limitation. he saying "let's assemble our team at the doj and talk about what kind of relief -- $10,000. it needs to be targeted based on income, the debt in question." he's asking the right questions, approaching this the right way. there's going to be a discussion about this within the democratic party. people are these things out publicly sometimes. the president is approaching this anyway that we can develop durable policies. we need to have a discussion about it. it's not always just about immediately signing an executive order. it's about coming to a determination about the smart way forward, and i think the biden administration is doing that. >> neil: this is the first time -- the president is taking on progressive sam saying "that isn't going to happen." the hike in the minimum wage, he is flexible on that, can be spread out a few years. to progressives, they were fighting words. what do you think? >> in the neighborhood i grew up in, we would say joe biden has finessed many of his voters, left them bamboozled, and hoodwinked. he led them to believe he was going to build back better, when a few days into the job, he had ended the keystone pipeline. he said he was going to build back better, and we seen almost 1 million new unemployment claims, when he said he was going to be amendable to doing something about student loan debt and -- the ability to debt via an executive order. he's not doing that. people like aoc and chuck schumer that have a plan to push that forward isn't going to get a result, just like african-americans who voted for him believe they would get reparations, some new civil rights policies, criminal justice reform, et cetera. they are not going to see those either. what we've seen with democratic politics -- has a hole, not everyone -- they make a lot of claims and never deliver. joe biden, 50 years and office, you would think as a progressive young person, you've got a war. you thought student loans were going to end. he would think he would be doing something. >> neil: he did show there is a limitation to government. it may be the issue here is that he's trying to temper down. we've got infrastructure. that could cost trillions. we've got a lot on the plate, including launching this $1.9 billion stimulus plan. nancy addressee pushing billions of dollars to get teachers back to work. he's got fights on his hands. this time, not with republicans. when you have the control of the white house, there will be disagreements within the party. -- >> he has inherited this huge problem, because of this pandemic. we've got millions of americans out of work. he's got a number of things on his plate. you can't walk and chew gum at the same time, and he's doing that. he's not saying we won't have loan forgiveness. we all don't live by one person's idea is the best. figuring out the best way to implement this. >> wasn't he an expert who came in government experience and quote unquote -- donald trump and his policies, not knowing what he was supposed to be doing? he was going to be the savior? what we've seen is lie after lie there joe biden just got in office. he'd like to time time again! >> he does not lie. >> neil: her recalibrating. >> neil: we are recalibrating. do you think the stimulus plan will get through? >> yes. >> to some degree, there's going to be supportive, especially from the vaccination. >> neil: that's not a "yes" or "no"! go yes, i think it will. >> neil: that's all i wanted to. why don't you go back to your podcast. 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