That science is on the side of the parents and students. Not the union. Safely open the school and keep a school open. Doesnt require that 100 of the participants be vaccinated to accomplish that. Examples throughout our country of schools that are able to reopen safely and do so while following mitigation strategies. Martha during the debates, President Biden said clearly i am the Democratic Party right now. Today the Wall Street Journal called on him to lead on this issue. Writing this in an oped. Perhaps you heard a few thousand times as the Biden Administration will listen to science. The science says schools can safely reopen. The white house is still listening, make that bowing, to the nonsciences who run the teachers union. How about the science of impact of Generational Learning Loss that were experiencing right now . We have yet to see the numbers. But my anticipation is that they will be difficult when we do. What about the emotional toll of being deprived of Human Interaction with teachers and friends . Listen to chris buckner, one of the many parents across this country who has lost a child to suicide since the Covid Lockdowns began in march. His son, dylan, captain of his High School Football team, had 14 offers to play in college. According to his dad, dylan was one of those students. He struggled with Mental Health issues. His father believes it was the isolation of the past year that put him over the edge. Theres no doubt in our minds that the stress that he was feeling as a result of school closures, not being with his friends, not being able to play football contributed to his death. Cook county, where i live, theres been 30 suicides of kids 18 and under since last march when the pandemic hit and only five covidrelated deaths in that same age group. Martha i couldnt believe how strong he was this morning when the broke with brian kilmeade. He struck to the core of what this might be look for families. Will cane is the host of fox and Friends Weekend and the father of two school age children. Great to have you with us. Thanks, martha. Martha what goes through your mind when you listen to Chris Buckley . What goes through my mind, John How Judgment will come. John when judgment will be passed, but the judgment on the teachers unions the past year should and will be harsh. This is tantamount to child abuse. What were watching unfold and what you eloquently laid out is subsequently tantamount to child abuse. If i might, i like to think of this as a scale, scales of justice. What weighs open both sides . As you pointed out, the teachers seem to be weighing on their side of the scale, the fear of getting covid. Its not backed up by science or data or the cdc. Its not backed up by anthony fauci. What more, the only thing i would have to add to what you laid out is, are the teachers trying to live a zero risk life . No chance of ever getting covid . Are they living that life, by the way . Are they not going out to dinner or leaving their homes or traveling . Are they only applying this zero risk part of their life to when it comes to educating our children . When we look at that side of the scale, its not backed up by any real data or analysis. That only leads to harm. The other side of the scale, it adds up to child abuse. Martha i was struck by this dad who i think a lot of people have seen this video. He was so gut wrenching when i listen to him. This is a dad from virginia where the teachers have pushed for vaccinations. Many of them have received the vaccinations. Theyre still saying that even though they have been vaccinated they wont go back. This is brandon michum. The Garbage Workers that peek up my freakin trash risk their lives every day more than anybody in this school system. Figure it out. You know what . Theres people like me and a lot of other people out there that will gladly take your seat and figure it out. Martha just its just palpable. This is the part that hes so angry about. He should be. You laid it out well. Were looking at Teen Suicides rising. In some places like indianapolis, up 250 . In oakland, california, its doubled. In las vegas, i heard you say cook county, your clip you played, you said in cook county it was up to like 30 Teen Suicides. In las vegas, its 19. Its 13 since july. The paint is on the rise. By the way, martha, thats what we know about. What about what we dont know about . What about child abuse . People in their homes, the parents in the same home, not working, perhaps dealing with their own depressions . School, social interaction is the first reresponse to child abuse. Its witnessing it, seeing it, reporting it. None of that is happening. Were not seeing whats going on Behind Closed Doors. Of course, the educational costs. Thats the point. The other side of the scale, the teachers are worried about covid concerns. The other side of the scale is real. We can measure it now and its heavy and weigh outways the teachers concerns. Martha so i think back to joe biden, President Biden now in the debate saying im the Democratic Party now. That was in the response to a question about are you going to be pushed by the left, pulled more to the left than you want to. You have a moderate record as a lawmaker over the course of these years. The question that the Wall Street Journal raises, which is where is joe biden on this issue . Everyone is waiting for him to be bold. When you hear that hes in the first 100 days, thats april. Most schools are closed by the end of may or june. Theres not an urgency on the part of this new president. No urgency. You mentioned several times, i have two sons, a 13yearold and a 9yearold. Theyre in Remote Learning. Their school has committed to Remote Learning through the end of the year. I consider myself lucky. Its a Charter School in new york. Primarily serves minority students and low income students. These are the exact people suffering under these stayathome school shutdowns. So i have seen first hand the Mental Health aspects. Now that brings us back to joe biden. What can he to . It has to be one of Public Pressure, a movement of Public Pressure. Its not about money. You and i know that. Joe biden last week or the week before in a Press Conference said well, we have to make sure theyre ventilated proper, ppe. These are hurdles that unions that are putting up the prospect ever to coming back to work. Joe biden needs to speak clearly, mount a Public Pressure campaign, be very clear about what you and i laid out here and force these teachers unions to come back. Were losing our children. A year so far lost. How much more can we lose . Martha at some point the governors have to step in and say this is the deadline. Get back in your classroom or lose your job. Theres circumstances that everyone would understand for perhaps a teacher in a dangerous age bracket or someone who has a very serious condition that might complicate things for them. At some point, everybody has to get back to their job. I think like this guy points out, the Garbage Workers are taking the risk every day. Risk is a part of life. Always has been in the american experience. Its not one that you want to take in a reckless way. But in a discernible way to be sure. Will, thank you. Great to have you with us. Thank you. So joining me now is alex farrenson, author. Great to have you with us back on the program today. So this is like its a Cost Benefit Analysis for society, right . How do you weigh that when you listen to this . What is the responsibility on the new president when it comes to this . Everything will said is true. Except i would say, for most teachers, certainly, you know, a teacher under 50, unless youre morbidly obese, teachers are very low risk from this. Thats what the data from countries that have kept their schools open have demonstrated. Its not like a scale. Its like everything is on one side. Heres the political calculation for joe biden. Its quite obvious in this case. You know, President Trump tried to reopen schools. He tried. He failed. Okay . So at the national level, theres very little that joe biden can actually do. So he has the choice of getting into a fight with his biggest political backers and fund raisers that he cant win. That is clearly what is going on. So you know, biden is going to make some of the right noise and his people will make the right noise. We want schools open. At the same time, theyll they want new School Buildings for the entire country. They know they cant do anything. Martha the argument about money and redoing School Buildings the Catholic Schools are open and okay. Colleges have made their own decisions as private institutions. The ones that are open have done really well. So how do you claim that you need more money or you need a Different School building . Listen, martha, this has been nonsense since last may. Okay . Were now fighting we lost this year. We have lost 2021 school year. These teachers are fighting to stay out next year. Heres one thing every parent should know. They want to get your kids to be forced to take these experimental vaccine. They are experimental. They have not been fully approved in the u. S. Or europe. The teachers are going to want force to take them before they go back. The teachers look, lots of really good teachers. Martha absolutely. I come from a long line of teachers. Its not about some of them have done an extraordinary job what they have had to do the zoom classes. Its about the unions. And i dont know if theyre responding to the concerns of the most scared, least educated members or if its a Bargaining Chip to get more money. Martha bingo. I can tell you theres lots of teachers that i hear from them that cant stand this and furious about it. Martha a lot are moving to private schools and Charter Schools without the unions. Great to see you, alex. Thank you. Martha so as schools across the country teach black History Month, a middle School Principal is now apologizing for making an alllives matter theme. The debate that you dont want to miss after this. My auntie called me. She said uncles had a heart attack. I needed him to be here. Your heart isnt just yours. Protect it with bayer aspirin. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. Important news for Veteran Homeowners. Introducing refiplus from newday usa. Refiplus lets you refinance at todays alltime low Interest Rates plus get cash. With home values climbing, now is the smartest time ever to turn your homes increased value into an average of 50,000 cash. Refiplus. Its new, its only for veterans, and its only from newday usa. 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I hope that my students, many of whom look like me, believe in the possibilities of their unlimited potential. One more said that she found the principals comments ignorant and disturbing. Former maryland republican congressional candidate and michael hopkins, founder of the john lewis bridge project. Great to have you with us. Kimberly, lets start with you. The principal of this school that as i pointed out is a black woman and said her parents fought for civil rights. She seems to be presenting a different picture of what she wants her students to focus on over black History Month. Yeah, sounds like she wants the students to focus on all of their classmates are equal. Heres a woman that is black herself, her father was a civil rights leader and shes being shamed and told that shes not black enough. I dont know why were pushing politics in school. We should be thinking about what we should be teaching our kids, which is financial literacy, american history, things like that. I have to say, this is the only country in the world that focuses on dividing people by their race. We talk about African Americans, chinese americans, hispanic americans. If youre black in the u. K. , youre called british. Just like everybody else. If youre another country and you go to an embassy for help, when you go to the embassy, you identify as an american. It would benefit this country if we focus on being american and just human beings in general. Martha michael, what do you say to that . You know, i think all lives matter is a nice Rhetorical Device but negates the fact in this country even to this day black lives are not treated equal to white lives. In the last 54 years, it just became legal for a black american and a White American to be married. That shows that this country, while its come a long way, still has a lot of work to do. Certain will i while we want to get to the point that we can say all lives matter in this country, at this moment while we have things like flint michigan, individuals in new orleans left to scramble for themselves during katrina, weve proven that we havent reached the point. Martha I Want A Quote ByMartin Luther king jr. Here up on the screen, if i may. In it, it says let us be dissatisfied until the day when nobody will shout white power, when nobody will shout black power but everybody will talk about gods power and human power. Kimberly, i go back to this with black lives matter, what happened last summer. The pulling of that movement by some elements of it, extreme elements of it in to areas that were dangerous over the course of the summer. This message from Martin Luther king jr. Is not prevalently pushed in schools across the country right now. No. Its like were going backwards in time. Michael is right. We came so far in this country and now were being regressive rather than progressive. I have to ask, what does it mean . I know you said not long ago, blacks and whites can finally marry. I have to ask you, im black, my husband is white and we have a biracial daughter. What do i teach her . Do i tell her shes one side of the coin here . Makes no sense. Youre alienating people that are mixed race. Martha michael . First, first thats a conversation you and your husband have to have. It diminishes the reconciliatio and a lowering of the tensions until we can have those difficult conversations. You know, i want to get to a point in this nation where we can say that all lives matter. Right now what were seeing is African American men are disproportionately 2. 5 times more likely to have deadly interactions with Law Enforcement. Michael, all lives matter includes black lives. It includes black lives. Its all lives as in black, white, hispanic, whatever. Allow me to finish. The Mortality Rate among African American women is something along ten times that of White Americans. We have to have those conversations honestly and uncomfortably so we can why is that . Why is the Mortality Rate higher . Martha kim a final thought here. Go ahead. Yeah, i would love for michael to explain why is it the Mortality Rate is higher . They never have these conversations in the full context. They pick and choose these pieces to push this narrative. Yes, this is a conversation that ive had with my husband. Our daughter is biracial. Shes beautiful, an american and she has to treat all of her friends equally. Martha have to leave it there. Thanks to have you with us today. The fallout from the defund the Police Movement leaves a trail of homicide and shrinking Police Forces in some american cities. Our deep dive with journalist, author, andy goh that went undercover to see the inside of antifa next. 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