hunter and james biden recently. but our story is not about them tonight, as shocking as some of the details are. the story we're about to tell you is about joe biden, the man who days from now could be elected president of the united states. joe biden, and we can tell you this with certainity, has direct personal involvement with his family's business dealings in communist china and likely in other countries as well. the former vice president of course has vehemently denied that. he is lying. tonight we can prove that. before we begin, a word about tony bobulinski. bobulinski is not a conventional whistleblower. he has no political agenda, to the extent he supported candidates in the past, he's given exclusively to democrats. nor is he seeking money from this story, this is not a shakedown of the buy dense or anyone else. bobulinski is already rich, significantly rich. he is a significant figure in american finance. and that's exactly why the biden family sought him out in the first place. they had no idea how to structure the deals they hoped to cash in on so they enlisted tony bobulinski to do it for him. now they're attacking him as an agent of russian disinformation. that's why bobulinski is appearing on this show. it's an effort to clear his family's name of that slur. he had no choice. the rest of the national media have suppressed his story. reporters have ignored, intentionallyiignored it. never in american history have more power centers in this country aligned to kill a legitimate news story in the days before an election. that's what's happening right now. if you're looking for a real threat to our of democracy, an actual threat, you're watching it unfold. we're seeing it firsthand. last night we experienced an extraordinary attempt to interfere with our reporter on the biden family. we'll bring you details on that soon. for now, here is tony bobulinski's story. we recorded this interview with him a few hours ago in a hotel in los angeles. tony, your connection to this deal came through james gilyard, an english businessman who you met while doing business in various different countries. then on christmas eve, 2015, he sent you the following text. which explains the deal with china that he wanted you to become part of. i want to read the first sentence. there will be a deal between one of the most prominent families from the u.s. and them constructed by me. >> yes, that's correct. tucker: tell me what he was saying? >> so james gilyard was referencing something he had been working on throughout 2015 with rob walker and a chinese company called cesc and he had been traveling around the world, developing that deal and that text was just the culmination of him making me aware that the deal was moving forward. tucker: he doesn't say i want to do a deal with hunter biden or even you, me, hunter biden and jim biden. he said between one of the most prominent families from the united states. he's talking about the biden family. >> yes, that's correct. it was never about hunter biden or jim biden. it was about the family name, the biden legacy. tucker: at this point, joe biden was the sitting vice president of the united states. >> yes, that's correct. tucker: so i want to fast forward to 2017, early may, 2017. and at this point you've agreed to become part of this deal. hunter biden, jim biden, the vice president's brother, james gilyard and they're asking you to meet with the former vice president in los angeles. describe the context, describe why they wanted you to meet with him. >> okay. across those days in los angeles in may of 2017 that you're referencing, i met with hunter biden multiple times at the chateau marmond and rob walker and the discussion was they wanted me to sit down with the father just to meet him and at a high level discuss the biden family and how they approached things. tucker: will you explain who rob walker is? >> rob walker was a partner in rosemont seneca and had a close relationship with the biden family and had developed and been working with james gilyard throughout 2015 and 2016 to develop the deal with the chinese and cfc. tucker: what was his relationship with the biden family. >> my understanding, he worked in prior administrations and had a close relationship, in rob walker's own words in an e-mail to me, he states that everyone was contributing or telling me how they wanted to participate in synahawk in and e-mail he states to me i want to continue acting as a proxy for hunter biden, jim biden and the bidens around the world. tucker: the biden family? >> the biden family. >>.tucker: so they wanted you o meet with the former vice president in la. how did that play out? that's correct. the former vice president was flying in and we were to meet at the beverly hilton. the milken conference was going on, one of the top three conferences in the world for anybody that's a global investor or anyone developing humanitarian causes, a variety of things. joe was flying in to speak about the cancer and the moon shot, stuff he was working on and hunter and everywithin was in town and they wanted to coordinate me meeting with joe. it was set up for the night of may 2nd at the beverly hilton. i first met with hunter biden and jim biden and just had a light discussion where they briefed me that my dad's on the way and we won't go into too much detail on the business front but we'll just spend time talking at a high level about you, your background, the biden family, and then he's got to get some rest because he's speaking at the conference in the morning. tucker: so this was at night. the president -- vice president had just flown across the countrdone.he's -- country. he's an older man. he's got work to do. >> right. tucker: they carved out a piece of his schedule for you to meet with him. why would they do that? because they were sort of wining and dining me and presenting the strength of the biden family to get me more engaged and want to take on the ceo role and develop both in the united states and around the world in partnership with cefc. and i, as you can imagine, i've been asked by 100 people over the last month why would you be meeting joe biden and i sort of turned the question around to the people that asked me. why at 10:38 on the night of may 2nd would joe biden take time out of his schedule to sit down with me in a dark bar at the beverly hilton sort of positioned behind a column so people couldn't see us to have a discussion about his family and my family and business at a very high level, where jim biden sat and hunter biden participated. i'm irrelevant in this story. they weren't raising money from me. there was no other reason for me to be in that bar, meeting joe biden, than to discuss what i was doing with his family's name and the chinese. tucker: this is a company with direct connections to the communist government of china. so the former vice president has said he had no knowledge whatsoever of his son's business dealings and was not involved in them at all. but this sounds like direct involvement. >> yeah, that's a blatant lie. when he states that, that is a blatant lie. obviously the world's aware that i attended the debate last thursday and in that debate he made a specific statement around questions around this from the president and i'll be honest with you, i almost stood up and screamed "liar" and walked out because i was shocked that after four days or five days that they prepped for this, that the biden family is taking that position to the world and once again i'm irrelevant in this discussion. i just was brought in to run this company and have been exposed to all of this and i believe the american people should see the facts. i would have much preferred the biden family go on record and define these facts for the american people on the globe versus me sitting here having a discussion with you on it. tucker: so joe biden has not denied meeting with you in los angeles, correct. >> correct. tucker: tell us about the conversations you had with him. >> i initially was sitting -- because i got there a little earlier, was sitting with jim biden and hunter biden and joe came through the lobby with his security and hunter basically said hey, give me a second, i'll go over, give me 10 minutes to brief my dad and read him in on things so hunter and his father and security came through the bar and i stood up out of respect to shake his hand and hunter introduced me as this is tony, dad, the individual i told you about that's helping us with the business that we're working on and the chinese. tucker: so it was clear to you that joe biden's son had told him about this business. >> crystal clear. tucker: crystal clear. tell us about the conversation that subsequently occurred between you and joe biden. >> the conversation as you're well aware, tucker, i grew up the son of a career naval officer so the president of the united states was always the commander in chief, whether they were democrat or republican or other so i had the highest respect for joe and the office that he had held so i stood up and shook his hand and obviously we sat down and ordered some drinks. i think jim biden was hungry, might have ordered some food. and joe asked me to talk about my background, my family. he thanked me for my service. i'm obviously very proud of that. proud of my brother's service and my grandfather's service. and then he whacked through sort of his -- walked through sort of his family, obviously some of the tragedies they've dealt with, his political career at a high level. we didn't go into too much detail on business because prior to joe showing up, hunter and jim had coached me, listen, we won't go into too much detail here, this is just a high level discussion and meeting. so it's not like i was drilling down with joe about cap tables and details. tucker: so you've said that they wanted you to meet joe biden as a way to induce you to participate in this deal. you were the actual business guy here who had management experience, deal experience. but it also sounds like joe biden was vetting you to some extent. >> yes, of course. i didn't request to meet with joe. they requested that i meet with joe. and he putting his -- and hunter says this in writing. it was referenced multiple times. they were putting their entire family legacy on the line. they knew exactly what they were doing. they were dealing with a chinese owned enterprise, run by chairman ye that had strong financial and political support from the chinese communist party. that's how they presented it to me and read me in on it. tucker: they being gilyard and hunter biden. >> they being hunter biden who was very proud of that and taking credit for it when i sat with him for two hours on the patio in la. tucker: proud they they were doing a deal with the chinese communist party. >> proud they had a relationship with chairman ye and the ability to get deals done around the world. tucker: you've seen a number of journalists, reporters, covering this story including some who should know better, he declare pry um faintly that -- triumphantly that no document you released connects the former vice president to this deal. how do you react to that? what's your answer to it? so you can imagine what i've been through over the last couple months and knowing all this to be fact and watching joe biden and his family and their lawyers trot around the world, stating there is no involvement or even at the debate joe biden referenced that you've seen my tax returns and there's no money from foreign enterprises and that. i want to similar -- simplify this for the american people as much i can. on may 13th that e-mail was sent from james gil das yard to he me. i didn't generate that e-mail. james gilyard generated that e-mail. in it, he goes through intimate detail of what each individual's requests were from a compensation perspective and how the equity in the enterprise would be divvied up. very important. may 13th. that e-mail was generated by somebody else to me. in that e-mail, there's a statement where they go through the equity, jim biden's referenced as 10%, doesn't say biden, it says jim. and then it has 10% for the big guy, held by h. i 1,000 percent sit here know that the big guy is referencing joe biden. that's crystal clear to me because i lived it. i met with the former vice president in person multiple times and i had been meeting and talking with hunter biden and jim biden and rob walker and james gilyard. where the media's tried to hide and i personally feel it's disgusting, is between that may 13th e-mail and the final document that was executed called eneida holdings, llc. in oneida holdings llc the equity is broken up 20% hunter biden, 20% jim biden, their llc's that represented them, 20% james gilyard, 20% rob walker and 20% me and my investment entity. but i'd ask the american people to read and look at is how from may 13th to the final oneida document that got executed did jim biden go from a 10% owner to a 20% owner. that's not my question to answer. i'm sure there were discussions within the biden family. i wasn't privy to that discussion. but this is jim biden, the brother of the potential future president of the united states. it's not a distant cousin. it's not an employee. it's his brother. who in documents defines himself as a political advisor to his brother. i'll leave that to the american people to answer that. i don't understand how the american journalist is allowing that gap to be talked about and defined. tucker: i should say -- i want to put the document on the screen. in his pitch to the chinese, jim biden describes himself as an advisor, a current advisor to his brother. so was it clear to you from the beginning that what jim biden was bringing to this deal was his relationship with joe biden? >>?>> yes, 1,000%, crystal clea. after i met with joe biden the may 3rd and was taken back stage after joe had spoken, we joked around for about 10 minutes, 15 minutes and then i walked him out to his car. i think he was -- i think they referenced he was off to see the lieutenant governor. tucker: this is joe biden. >> joe biden, yes. after that, i went over to the peninsula hotel and i sat with jim biden for two hours where jim biden walked through his history and his own of words of, stating all the work and effort he did to get joe biden elected initially in delaware and then through the family history and the role that had he played in it. and in that meeting, remember i'm the son of a naval officer. i was a naval officer myself. and a because i held a q clearance t equivalent of a top secret clearance, we're audited every year. if you receive a gift, i think the barrier was $25. anything larger than $25, we had to disclose it to the government because obviously anybody with a clearance, the government is watching closely that they're not influenced by the russians, the iranians, the chinese and stuff like that. so as i was listening to jim walk through this, i have a big heart. if you talk to anybody who knows me, they would weigh in on that. i'm a kind person. and i'm thinking about the biden family, like how are they doing this. i know joe decided not to run in 2016 but what if he ran in the future. aren't they taking political risk or headline risk? and i remember looking at jim biden and saying how are you guys getting away with this, like aren't you concerned? and he looked at me and he laughed a little bit and said plausible deniability. tucker: he said that out loud? >> yes, he said it directly to me, one on one in a cabana at the peninsula hotel after an hour and-a-half, two hour meeting, with me asking out of concern how are you guys doing this? aren't you concerned that you're going to put your brother's future presidential campaign at risk? the chinese, the stuff that you guys have been doing already in 2015 and 2016 around the world? and i just can almost picture his face where he sort of chuck he'lls and a -- chuckles and says plausible deniability. tucker: he said to your face, essentially we're lying about it? >> anyone watching this interview can look up what plausible deniability means. and the definition's very distinct. tucker: that's remarkable. so just want to back up a second just to be clear. you met with joe biden twice. >> yes, that's correct. tucker: what did he say to you -- he gives his speech at the milliken conference. this is checkable. this is a public event. >> you can go to milliken. i wasn't attending milliken. they had to issue me special credentials, a whole team walked out into the valet of the beverly hilton and walked me into that speech that he gave and sat me at the head table in front of everyone. so this is more than checkable. i'm sure there's photos or documentation and stuff. tucker: the press corps doesn't seem to be rushing to verify this. tucker: it's checkable because it's true and the fact you may be hearing some of it for the first time here tells you everything about the lying the rest of us have been subjected to for the past six weeks. when we come back, tony bobulinski will tell us what he and joe biden discussed as they were back stage in los angeles at the milliken conference in may of 2017 and he will respond directly to claims by the former vice president and many other democrats that he is working against american interests for a hostile foreign power. that's straight ahead. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum. go to autismspeaks.org tucker: we just showed you the first 20 minutes of our interview a few hours ago with tony bobulinski. well-known international businessman who was asked by the biden family to do business with them in china. he met with the former vice president, joe biden, two separate times and they talked about the china business deal. now, this information has been out for several weeks. it's been in the hands of a number of different news organizations. the reason you're hearing a lot of this for the first time tonight on this show is because they've resolutely ignored it and tried to suppress the story. joe biden has rarely been asked about it though there's an enormous amount of detail and documentation that no one has refuted because it's real. this topic did come up because the president pushed it at last week's presidential debate. what was notable was that joe biden didn't deny any specifics about his connections to the chinese communist party, his family doing business there. he himself participating in that business. instead, biden dismissed the entire story out-of-hand and suggested that tony bobulinski, who is a veteran, a former naval officer, was part of a russian disinformation campaign aimed at this country. his evidence? there wasn't any. he cited a letter from former national -- none of them had directly assessed the information, not one of them called tony bobulinski. they knew nothing. joe biden said that on stage. and so when we spoke to tony bobulinski, we asked him his reaction to that and here's what he said. tell me about the conversation that huh with joe biden, what did he say to you. >> you mean the morning after he spoke? tucker: that's right. >> there was 10 people running around, gotting him something to drink and we were back stage in a cramped space and he asked me to walk with him out to the car and he asked what i thought of his speech and i thought he did a great job on the speech and obviously cancer is a serious thing that we should all be working together to solve. i just lost a sister-in-law within the last two weeks, sadly to cancer. and then he just sort of asked me to keep an eye on his son and his brother. tucker: what do you think he meant by that? >> i think he was conscious of things and i can't speak for him. i mean, i would love for him to did on record. as i referenced earlier, i'm only sitting here because they have not -- not only have they not gone on record, they've denied it and they tarred my family name and a long history of serving this country and have other congressmen now talking about russian disinformation. >> this whole smear on joe biden comes from the kremlin. >> i held a top secret clearance from the nsa and doe. i served this country for four years in one of the most elite environments in the world, naval nuclear power training command and to have a congressman speaking about russian information or joe biden at a public debate referencing russian disinformation when he knows he sat face-to-face with me that i traveled around the world with his son and his brother, to say that and associate that with my name is absolutely disgusting to me. tucker: did you complain about that? i mean, to suggest that you were committing treason or part of a foreign attack on our democracy, which is how they characterized it. i mean, that's such a serious and i think unfair charge. did you bring this up with them. >> basic form, you're exactly right. they're publicly accusing me of treason right now, treating me like i'm insignificant or 50 years of history that my family served this country is insignificant. that's why i'm sitting here having this -- i assure you this is the last place i want to be right now and last thing i want to be doing right now but i feel like i have a patriotic duty to this country and every american citizen to go on record and define the facts for them and let them do their own work, let them decide how they view those facts or not. for the biden family to deny these facts and not only deny them that, could have just said no comment, but they didn't say no comment. they then brought in russian disinformation and basically associated my name with that which is absolutely disgusting to me. and i had to go on the record. last weekend i was in virginia. sally, my sister-in-law passed away around 6:38 saturday morning, that's the wife of my brother. spent 28 years serving this country as a naval flight officer and just retired. you can imagine me dealing with that and the tragedy of that. when i saw adam schiff go on record talking about russian disinformation, after this e-mail had been posted online by the new york post and, remember, that. mail was to me -- that e-mail was to me from james gilliar. i wasn't blind carbonned or cced on that. it was to me, stating i was going to be the ceo of this enterprise. i was at the end of my rope. and so i called rob walker and i told him that if that statement isn't retracted by congressman schiff by midnight on sunday that i was going on record and i was disclosing all the facts to the american government, to the american citizens and the world. i was hoping the bidens would do the right thing or schiff would retract his statement but i could not allow another minute, another hour, or day for my family's fam name to be associad or muddied up around russian disinformation. i would ask the biden family to come on record and stop using my name or associating it with russian disinformation. it's absolutely disgusting. tucker: so this is rob walker, the representative of the biden family, i believe his wife worked for the biden family apparently. so you said this to him. i won't go public, i just want them to retract the accusation that i'm an instrument of russian disinformation. what did he say? >> that's correct. rob was under a tremendous amount of stress, obviously his wife and a child, and he said, listen, let me make some calls. let me call george who is hunter biden's lawyer and see what i can do but he sort of presented it as if that's going to be impossible for me to get done and i'm not naive. i know -- that's a single phone call from joe biden to adam schiff saying basically go on record and retract your statement. you got over your skis. and when i -- i was up late that night. when the statement wasn't retracted on monday morning i was ready to go on record and how that record was, i was willing to go in front of any senator, any congressman, the department of justice, the fbi, or sit here with you, tucker and basically provide the facts to the american people and let them make their decision. this isn't a political focus of mine. people were accusing my family of treason after i served this country and defended this country. tucker: so the reason you wound up here in this interview and i just want to affirm for our audience, i don't think you had any desire to do this interview. >> absolutely no desire. tucker: is because nobody else told your story. so were you surprised, given the trove of documents you have, given the credibility that i think is apparent, that you have, that no other news organization took the time to unpack this story? >> surprised is probably an understatement of the year. shocked. because it would be different if this was my word against jim biden, hunter biden and joe biden. that would be a very slippery slope. not something i would take the personal and family risk on it. but i provided more documents and facts that validate times, meetings, who participated, that e-mail to me on may 13th was generatessed by somebody else, sent to me. it wasn't me generating. these text messages that i provided are hunter biden jim biden, in the first person. it's them speaking so. you can interview them. the fbi can interview them. our government can interview them. i was shocked the media is not only not discussing this, they're dismissing it as russian disinformation. this country has heard enough about russia. we went through three years of every day, russia, russia, russia. it's absurd. the cold war is over. tucker: and they're saying it about your family? >> yes. tucker: the biden family knew that you were going public with this. you spoke to rob walker about it. again, the self-described biden family representative. and biden family, meaning joe biden as well. what was his response when you let him know that you were going public with this? >> trying to coach me. [laughter] trying to sort of say, hey, we don't want to do that. we don't want -- you know, press trucks out in front of our house, i'm going to have to move. i could lose my job. and all that. i'm not trying to cause any harm to anyone in this situation, let alone rob walker and his family, james gilliar and his family. but basically rob's position was if you go on record with all these facts, you'll bury all of us. >> if he doesn't come out on record -- >> you're going to bury all of us, man. tucker: what was your response to that? >> i was focused on pushing these guys to do the right thing, to demonstrate an ounce of integrity in front of the american people. they all know the facts. i lived the facts and luckily for the american people all the facts are extremely well-documented. i'm irrelevant in this discussion so i can ride off but the american people can read these texts, listen to the recording you played, read the legal documents that were executed in delaware and they can form their own conclusion. they don't need me to form the conclusion for them. tucker: give us a sense of your contacts with hunter biden. i just -- a lot of this is complex. there's a lot that we're not -- this is television so we're not putting everything that we have on the screen because we can't. but for those who might suspect that you don't -- didn't really have a lot of contact with hunter biden, give us a sense of some of the places you had conversations with him and over what timeframe. >> obviously as we already discussed, throughout 2015 and 2016 while joe was still the sitting vice president of the united states, these guys had been doing extensive work around the world in places like oman, lucksen boring, -- luxembourg, romania, that i hadn't come off if bench and tried to be parts of this. tucker.tucker: oman, luxembour, romania, they don't speak these languages. none of these people had experience in these countries. why were they doing business there? >> they had the biden name and people were going through hoops in an interest to get to joe biden. tucker: sounds like gilliar is a legitimate business guy, someone who is flew meant the language of international business. >> he served his country. he's british. he traveled around the world for decades. he's a low profile individual. but he's sharp and legitimate as they come. tucker: hunter biden and jim biden have a well-documented decades long record of business disas tears. -- disasters. did you get any sense that any of these guys was qualified to conduct this business. >> the only qualification they had was the biden name. tucker: but they seemed to have par laid that into -- par layed that into quite a few deals in quite a few countries. >> you had asked the extent of my communication with hunter biden. so when i decided to come off the bench and entertain being the ceo of sinehawk holdings, i was brought up to speed ton the work they were doing in oman, luxembourg, romania, kazhakstan and stuff like that. that was going to be integrated. you asked to the extent i spend time with hunter biden. i was in romania with hunter biden, jim biden, james gilliar, rob walker. i was in monaco for the annual grand prix there. i was supposed to sit with hunter biden. i met him. i met on the patio of his hotel and i sat there and waited for two hours and you can imagine how angry and i was frustrated after sitting there for two hours waiting for him without a text, a phone call to let me know i can't make it or i'm tied up and a text that i think you guys are aware of and saw, the next day, he aggressively comes back at me that he couldn't attend the meeting that he himself set up. i stepped away from family and friends on the yacht that i was on with my friends to go sit with him for a couple hours and he's effectively screaming into the phone that he cannot pick up the phone and text me because he was with the ukrainians and the founder of burisma and he was fighting for the only income he has on the kazhakstan deal that apparently he negotiated. now, i had no exposure to the kazhakstan deal. i'm not aware of any of the particulars of the kazhakstan deal. i just know for a fact there is a kazhakstan deal because hunter biden in the first person told me there was in the text that i think you guys have and you will show to the american people. it's not my job to determine what that deal is. i'll leave that up to the fbi or the senate and the congress to figure that out. tucker: i want to restate this. you are not a grifter. you're not someone who is selling access. you're a legitimate businessman who has done deals in a lot of different countries. i want you to assess once more, is there anything about hunter biden's personal experience, personal qualifications, that would justify him doing a deal in kazhakstan? >> absolutely nothing. the only thing that he had was the biden family name and the fact that his father at one point obviously was the sitting vice president and potentially would run as a future president. tucker: sounds like a remarkably ambitious international business program they had running. >> extensively. extensive. tucker: this is a small point but i can't get over it. so you saw a number of reporters say, again, in an effort to bat away your story, your testimony on this, that the chairman referred to in a bunch of these e-mails was not joe biden, it was in fact the government of china. when you see people refer to the chairman things this, the chairman thinks that, they're talking about china, not joe biden. here is a text message you received from hunter biden to you. hey, tony, i have an idea. in light of the fact that we're in an impasse of sorts, james' lawyers and my chairman gave a no, i think we should meet in romania next week. you're hearing reporters say that chairman was in fact the chinese government. here you have rob walker responding to you, clearly there's confusion over this. he's saying -- when he said when hunter biden said his chairman, he was talking about his dad. >> correct. there's two chairmen this story. there's chairman ye, the chairman of cfc. the text from hunter biden, he was not talking about the chairman of cfc. what hunter is referencing there is he spoke to his father and his father is giving a no to the ask that i had which was putting proper governance in place around oneida holdings. tucker: so joe biden is vetoing your plan for putting stricter governance in the company. i mean, and it's right here in the e-mail. >> i want to be very careful in front of the american people. that is not me writing that. that is not me claiming that. that is hunter biden writing on his own of phone, typing in that i spoke with my chairman, referencing his father. if the world thinks that that my chairman is not his father, then hunter biden would come forward and go on record and state to the world. tucker: but you have the biden family representatives, rob walker saying right here, may 19th, no, when he said his chairman, he was talking about his dad. >> exactly. tucker: joe biden had no knowledge of any of these business deals, he told us that and the press has repeated that message every day since. it is a lie. and everyone is saying it knows it's a lie. where did the money go? when we return, tony bobulinski will explain where the money went. there was a lot of it. we'll be right back. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum. go to autismspeaks.org tucker: bits an pieces of the story have been out there. if you've been paying close attention, you may know that in september two senate committees issued a report about a series of suspicious overseas financial transactions that involved the former vice president's son. but their report did not tell the full story. there was a lot of money here. a lot of it flowed to the biden family. where did it go and where did it come from. we asked tony bobulinski that. tell me about the money. so in the end, the chinese did send quite a bit of money. >> correct. tucker: where did it go? >> so documents were all executed. even after this back and forth. and chinese cfc director zhang, number three of the company, worked directly for chairman ye and the way it was presented to me was a senior chinese communist party member was assuring me that $10 million was being sent to our bank account that was set up at jp morgan chase to basically fund operations and grow the business and that of that $10 million, we were capitalizing the business so $5 million of that $10 million was being loaned to oneda holdings as a nonrecourse loan from cfc and the other $5 million was coming as cfc as their capitalization of the business because we owned 50/50 in the partnership. the chinese and cfc never viewed -- i'm the insignificant and irrelevant in this discussion. to them it was always the biden family. it wasn't hunter biden. it wasn't jim biden. it was the biden family was obviously led and operated by joe biden. and in a document that you guys have and i think has been provided to the world, the chinese reference that because of their trust in the biden family, that chairman ye and director zhang are excited about moving forward in this and in that document they reference loaning $5 million to the bd family. the bd family is the biden family. and notice they didn't say we're loaning that money to oneida holdings or loaning that money to tony bobulinski or we're loaning that money to james gilliar or rob walker, they, once again, a document not generated by me but generatessed by cfc that they're loaning that money to the biden family. tucker: what are the implications of this going forward? if joe biden is elected president which could very well happen. how does this consistent strain his ability -- constrain his ability to deal with china. >> are you asking for my personal opinion? tucker: i am asking for your opinion as someone that worked with the chinese. >> i think the biden family is compromised. i held a q clearance. you're briefed on compromise and who you're able to talk with and deal and do business with. i don't see given the history and the facts how joe can't be influenced in some manner, based on the history that they have, where here with cfc and stuff like that. so as a citizen and american taxpayer, i'm very, very concerned. tucker: it seems at this point that there's so much documentation and, again, we have your documents, the ones that you retained, the texts, the e-mails and the legal documents. presumably there are many others. there are a lot of other people involved in this. is it possible that this stuff just disappears and nobody covers it for the next four years if biden's elected? seems like there's a lot of evidence out there. >> i think the american people should be demanding that this is investigated and i don't know what the right party to do that is. is that the doj? is that the fbi? is that congress? is that the senate? but there absolutely should be no scenario that this isn't investigated and as you said, i probably have purview into 10%, just picking a round number, of what was actually going on and i would encourage the american people to go online and download senator johnson's 87-page report after watching this and read pages 65-87 and form your own conclusion. what i've come forward with is a piece in that puzzle that senator johnson and senator grassley did not have. they didn't have it because i hadn't gone on record and all this information and documentation was kept very, very tight. you asked h me if information disappeared. i would expect that other parties have probably destroyed or gotten rid of information. i didn't. i have every e-mail, every text, every what's app that was exchanged and i provided that to the authorities and here i am discussing it. tucker: so you learned from the senate report that the chinese sent a great deal of money but it didn't go where it was supposed to go, correct? >> yes, that's correct. so take the american people back to july 2017. i was being told by director zhang, a senior executive at cfc, that's the $10 million was going to be funded in two tranches of $5 million and $5 million. once again, the way they were approaching that is $5 million was a loan to the biden family and $5 million was their contribution to capitalize sinhawk holdings. that money didn't come in june, didn't come in july. i was in europe, traveling with friends and family and i was frustrated because culturally there's a tendency to, hey, it's coming, it's coming and it wasn't come canning so i was very frustrated but also in july 2017 something that happened is over july 4th weekend while we were celebrating our independence day, president xi was in moscow meeting vladimir putin on an official visit and in that meeting and in that multiple days, director zhang was in moscow participating in that. and rossneff or media in russia had leaked to the press that they were he entertaining selling 14% of rossneff which is the state owned u.s. sanctioned energy company at russia to cefc. when i saw that leak, you can imagine once again the clearance i held, the military background, sort of push away from the table like whoa, this is stair stepping things at a level that do i even want to be associated with or do i even want to be near. shortly after that information got out, i was told that director zhang's visa was denied. he could no of longer get back into the u.s. for meetings or to bring his wife and his kids to go to school in new york. and that it was denied multiple times. jim biden confirms that in text. james gilliar references it. kevin, the individual that's referenced and senator johnson's senate report, he went by kevin. and so i was sort of walking on egg shells, what's going on. you're saying this money's going to be funded. it hasn't come in yet. i was sort of near the end of my rope here. and then in september easily validated, it's officially announced that cfc is buying 14% of rossnett, the state owned energy company. so at that point i short of push away from the table the money hadn't been funded into synehawk and i was having daily discussions with james gilliar, you know, what's going on here. the biden name, russia, china. i don't want to be anywhere near this. i've got to understand all the moving pieces. and so we went into the fall of 2017 he very well documented, when patrick ko who is an employee or siste associate of c landed in new york he was detained by the u.s. government and put in jail for corruption for leaving shoe boxes of cash for two african presidents and it started this down-hill spiral of cfc as a company. remember, president xi was traveling around the world under the one belt, one road. that was their political approach and cfc was the capital capitalistic side of the chinese government doing things they could do on the capitalist side that the government couldn't get done. it's well documented the work they did in kazhakstan, in georgia, all over the world. when they announced that, that they were officially tendering for 14% of rossneff, a deal valued at $9 billion, i sort of pushed away from the table like okay, obviously that's taking priority over this discussion and i just sort of was watching things play out once they detained patrick ko. i did reach out to hunter biden in october of 2017, asking him, hey, listen, they haven't funded the $10 million. have you done something that i'm not aware of? have you gone around us? have you started a parallel discussion with chairman ye that i should be conscious of? and in a variety of text messages that you've been provided and i think the american people have been provided, he says no, i didn't go around you. but oh, by the way, i'm acting as the personal attorney to chairman ye. now, imagine being in my shoes, looking at my phone, reading this text message from hunter biden. i just spent six months all out of pocket myself, nobody was paying me. i was paying for my own travel, my own meals, my own cars, anything that was needed. and hunter biden is now telling me that he's meeting personally one on one with chairman ye in his $50 million penthouse in new york and if he can't meet him, he's picking up the phone and calling him but they only discussed things in person. you can imagine my anger and frustration there because then i'm like this has gotten slippery, you have gone around me. what's going on here. by the way, hunter, you're acting as the personal attorney for chairman ye while their tendering in a deal valued at $9 billion. what am i missing here? and he sort of just plays it off and he said i'm working on a bunch of other personal things and visas and stuff like that but doesn't go into a lot of detail. i would love for you to ask him that. i would love the american people to ask what those other special things were. tucker: you've told your story in a very public way. what do you expect the consequences for you and your family will be? >> so my focus right now is not the consequences on me. i'm actually trying to be selfless in this discussion. i think the consequences our country faces that average american voter that's thinking about what presidential candidate they pick today, or picked over the prior two weeks or in the future all the way up to telex, i'm doing this for then, not for my family, not for any money. i'm doing this out of a patriotic duty to our country based on my military background and my grandfather's background. so other people can determine the facts and what matters and how they want to vote. but i had to go on record because they chose to sort of mar up my name so i have a former seal team protecting my family. i'm not at home right now. and i'll travel the next four years if i have to. i had to do this. tucker: are you worried? >> of course i'm worried. i've gotten death threats, calls. obviously i sat with the fbi. they assured me i would be more than be protected by them when and if needed. i think i'll slowly become irrelevant in this discussion because the facts are so powerful and so necessary that hopefully i'll just sort of go stage left and hopefully our government and the appropriate people, the biden family, will go on record and basically provide facts to the american people. tucker: tony bobulinski, thank you for talking to us. >> thank you, tucker, for having me. tucker: joe biden servants in the media want to pretend that tony bobulinski doesn't exist but he does exist. he's a real person. he's telling the truth. he's not going away. there's too much evidence to support his story. it's starting to come out. we'll bring you more. that's it for us tonight. we'll be back 8:00 p.m., a show that is a sworn enemy of lying, smugness and group show. show. chris: the first americans could begin receiving the pfizer vaccine tomorrow as the fda gives the green light. >> our nation has achieved a medical miracle. chris: millions of doses from pfizer to all 50 states. we'll track plans to distribute the vaccine. we're joined by dr. slawey, head of operation warp speed, only on fox news sunday. then, a last push for covid relief before congress adjourns for the year. we'll ask a leader of the bipartisan gang of eight, west virginia senator jo j

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