commitment is around ukraine. how does the president really approach the question of aggression from russia? does he think that we're in a 1938, 1939 scenario where the aggression in china and russia is something that will be continuous and that we need to address on a scale of what we stand for and who we are? you know, i'm not sure that he was definitive in terms of a call to duty that is clear especially when you look at how the ukraine aid has been very measured, they ask for something, we say no, give it to them down the road and we have this situation where we have allowed them to use weapons that range into russia around the kharkiv area. what happens if in the zelenskyy meeting i need it in three other places as well? so i think there is a lot of questions about the rhetoric versus the reality. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: one other thing.