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several times. >> jesse: intense room. and understatement. thank you so much. a former federal prosecutor, houses case shaping up? 's is going to be not guilty? >> no. look, the only way to go to be which is the defense strategies during -- which is equally unlawful and unethical defense to propose and also the judge will likely instruct the jury that nullification is an inappropriate way to arrive at their verdict -- >> jesse: what is that mean, tell the audience. >> assured, nullification is one of the jurors are convinced or beyond a reasonable doubt what it because they feel sorry for the defendant or they don't like the prosecution team that of the quit anyways. is no legal basis for the not guilty verdict, it's just the jury nullifies all of the