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has a particular relationship with the president. regionally he does not need vans in ohio, pretty solid red state but it does fit his loyalty and is somebody he could see working with. there is others on that list and i would just be careful to limited to those three because as we have seen with the former president, that is a lot of intrigue and possibilities that pop up. >> jesse: and it's also personal chemistry, we know how much personal chemistry means to the president. what about robert a sandys, that name is not on there. when johnny goes out and injurious people at people still his name. is that out, is that a crazy option? >> i think it is on the list that i've talked to several people as of tonight, the list i just gave you including the three you started with is where their headspace is. as far as turning over paper.