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principals, yet graham excused himself from his duty to demand justice in the biggest political scandal in american history. >> i'm not a prosecutor. i've told you this, like, 10,000 times. it's not my job to put people in jail. i can't fire anybody. durham is the prosecutor. i'm not going to get in his way. my time is over, and i'm proud of what we did. it was my committee that got everybody to come before the country and say if i knew then what i know now, i wouldn't have signed the carter page warrant. lou: graham is still dissembling. we'll have more on graham's dereliction of duty in the four-year effort to overthrow president trump with "just the news" editor-in-chief john solomon. he'll have the latest for us on what is happening with the white house release of those declassified documents. and it's been nearly ten years since barack obama said he didn't have the authority to independently overhaul immigration law. listen to this. >> and sometimes when i talk to immigration advocates, you know, they wish i could just bypass congress and change the law myself. but that's not how democracy works. what we really need to do is to keep up the fight to pass genuine, comprehensive reform. that is the ultimate solution to this problem, that's what i'm committed to doing. [cheers and applause] lou: that's what he was committed to doing, he said, but then-president obama went at it alone and, well, through daca he granted unilaterally illegal immigrants exactly what he said constitutionally he could not do, alleged legal status. obama's dictate was by a federal judge now the incoming administration seems determined to finish the job and grant amnesty to nearly 20 million illegal immigrants. that's right, that is exactly what joe biden says he will do. we are moving dangerously close to losing this constitutional republic, make no mistake about it. why are our political leaders afraid to debate these important issues like illegal immigration and border security in the public forum, a nationwide dialogue, perhaps a referendum? that'll be amongst the subjects we will take up with attorney and former federal prosecutor robert ray here tonight. joe biden says he will unify the nation, but he's failed to rein in the radical left of his party, and the radical dems in their efforts to silence conservatives, have become the party of hate. even today the president-elect vowed to confront systemic racism in the nation. former civil rights activist bob woodson joins us here this evening. he says the radical left is exploiting the civil rights movement, stoking racial tension throughout the country. bob woodson with us. and and we look forward to that. the radical dems have spent the last four years sowing division, portraying president trump as a bogeyman. now the radical dems have found a new villain, the national guard. >> i was thinking, the guard is 90 some odd percent if, i believe, male. 20% of white males voted for biden. you've got to figure that the guard, which is predominantly more conservative, they're probably not more than 25% of the people that are there protecting us who voted for biden. the other 75% are in the class that would be the large class of folks who might want to do something. and there were military people and police who took oaths to defend the constitution and to protect the fence and didn't do it and were in the insurrection. so it does concern me. lou: steve cohen's twisted remarks there pass as thinking in his judgment. cohen's attack on our national guard comes as nancy pelosi praises the guard's presence. yet when president trump asked for a military parade in the nation's capital, the pentagon said it was far too expensive, and the radical dems, they couldn't possibly support the idea. instead, pelosi and the dems are fine with 25,000 troops now in the nation's capital to protect what is a virtual inauguration for a man who just received 80 million votes. how does that work? giving our nation's capital the appearance of a third world nation. for more on what's happening on the ground in washington, we turn to fox news correspondent mike tobin. mike in. >> reporter: and, lou, let me give you a quick look around in this area of north capitol street very near union station. you can see the presence of the national guard with one of the vehicles there as we're here on north capitol street. as we look in the direction of the capitol, you can see some of that fencing. it's all over town. on top of that, 12,000 feet of razor wire that surrounds the capitol and also the presence of some of the capitol police. you can't go a few blocks in this town without running into fencing, a roadblock, another checkpoint with security forces and the ubiquitous presence of the national guard. as we watched yesterday, squad after squad, platoon after platoon of forward were showing up. there are now some 21,000 troops on the ground, excess of 25,000 troops are expected, and they will be vetted by the fbi and the secret service. the secretary of the army confirms that. the acting defense secretary says there is no intel of a specific plot, but experts watching the process say that security forces are operating with this overabundance of caution largely in light of the criticism that they were unprepared for january the 6th. >> it's not surprising that our security forces, having seen that take place, are erring on the side of being overprepared and providing as much deterrence as they possibly can to anybody coming to d.c. to interrupt the inauguration. >> reporter: and the checkpoints have resulted in arrests. one man was picked up friday night with non-governmental credentials, a weapon and ammo. he later told our fox affiliate he was working as a security guard, he got lost in this maze of checkpoints and fencing, and he is not, he insists, a domestic terrorist. a woman was referred to mental health, and another man was arrested over the weekend carrying weapons and high capacity magazines. lou, back to you. lou: mike, thank you very much. mike tobin. quite a sight. 25,000 of our national guard in the nation's capital. to protect what will be a virtual inauguration. well, as the nation's focus is focused on security in washington, d.c., a caravan of 12,000 immigrants, illegal immigrants, is making its way through central america. why am i calling them illegal immigrants? because they are all legally in mexico, and -- illegally in mexico, and they seem determined to make it to our southern border. this weekend that caravan clashed with guatemalan are soldiers who tried to hold back the crowds. guatemala's president saying these illegal caravans will not be accepted in his nation. guatemala determined to stop illegal immigration, yet the incoming biden administration has already announced it will offer amnesty in its first days in power through executive order. customs and border protection commissioner mark morgan says the president-recollect's rhetoric is encouraging -- president-elect's rhetoric is encouraging that caravan. morgan also washing about what will -- warning about what will happen once biden's immigration agenda is implemented. >> they can't do what they say they're going to do. think about that. you know, no deportations for a hundred days, they're going to get rid of mvp which stops catch and release, and now it's clear they're going to give amnesty to millions and millions of people who are here illegally. if they do what they say they're going to do, the only result will be an unmitigated illegal immigration crisis that will make 2019 pale in comparison. that's the only result. lou: elections, as they say -- well, more specifically, as the former president barack obama said, elections have consequences, and we are about to behold them. radical dem congressman adam schiff doesn't want president trump to receive intelligence briefings after he leaves office. >> there's no circumstance in which this president should get another intelligence briefing, not now and not in the future. i don't think he can be trusted with it now, and in the future he certainly can't be trusted. indeed, there were, i think, any number of intelligence partners of ours around the world who probably started withholding information from us because they didn't trust the president would safeguard that information and protect their sources and methods. and that makes us less safe. we've seen this president politicize intelligence, and that's another risk to the country. lou: by the way, that risk to the country has been led by adam schiff for the past four years. he is a liar, he is misrepresenting reality to everyone who will put up with his nonsense. and he's also an awful hypocrite. when president trump considered revoking john brennan's security clearance back in 2018, this is what adam schiff called it. quote: insecure and vin dick tuf. he also -- vindictive. he also said an enemies' list is ugly, undemocratic and un-american. i also believe this action to silence a critic is up lawful. up next, will we ever see the obamagate documents, and if so, when? 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[laughter] >> good point. lou: this is the most politicized intelligence, the most politicized that the intelligence agencies have ever been. it is outrageous that this president and the republican party had to put up with it. it's a continuation of the obama era, and it is looking awfully bad. unfortunately, we're also watching the fbi stop the white house as the president has vowed to release obamagate documents that he has declassified, and they're trying to run out the clock over the next, what, little less than 48 hours. >> yeah. well, i have a high degree of confidence based on the reporting i've done today that the declassification's not only done, but the documents are being prepared, and sometime between tonight and tomorrow midday we'll see them. these are all the justice department, remaining justice department and fbi documents known to be of interest to the american public. there are two sets of documents i want to highlight though that i'm not sure are going to get, one of those are the cia intelligence documents. devin nuñes wrote a remarkable report in 2018 on failures of the last intelligence assessment, russia allegedly trying to help donald trump even though that evidence has been called into question. it's not clear that's going to be released -- lou: to be clear, john, i'm sorry, just to clear that up a bit -- >> sure. lou: -- the assessment was that there was no basis for that assessment that russia was, in fact, trying to help donald trump. correct? >> not only that, there were intelligence analysts who disagreed with the assessment, and they were silenced. again, getting to that idea of politics in our intelligence communities. that would have been a great thing, if we could have gotten den devin nuñes' report out to see how dissenting voices were squelched by john brennan. lou: and right now devin nuñes, as the chair of the intelligence community back in the day, the report prepared by his committee, and he can't get his hands on it to release it to the more than people, nor to this point has the president of the united states -- and very specifically we have to explain, that's because the cia will not turn it over to anyone. they won't permit it, as i understand it, to even leave the gun box at the cia. >> yeah. it's a travesty that this doesn't get out there so that we can make a better assessment of things we need to fix in our intelligence community. a lot of great people do a lot of great work every day to keep us safe, but the russia case exposed the sort of flaws that once in a generation we need to pause, stop and fix lest we become less secure because of our ignorance if. i think gina haspel, the cia director, and all those others who are thwarting the release of that document are doing a great disservice to the american security infrastructure. there were no sources and methods that couldn't have been protected. this information could be out there. the only reason it's not being released is because it protects the is institutional reputation of the cia. they're trying to hide their failures and the dissent within their own ranks. i don't think that's good for america. lou: i know it's not good for america, and i know this: what they're really doing is violating the constitution and disobeying the direct orders of the commander in chief. it's an outrage, and we are witnessing the deep state absolutely defying constitutional authority and telling everyone who's boss. >> yeah. lou: it's no less than that, john. do you disagree? >> your right. no, i agree with that. there's -- you're right. we only have 40 hours left to make a difference. at the state department there's a document dated november 22, 2016, it's a remarkable document by george kent, very important impeachment witness, the guy who was trying to tell joe biden he had a conflict of interest, the guy who said he saw two -- he was worried that two bribes were paid while hunter biden was on the burisma board. no one would listen to him then either. he wrote an e-mail that sums up joe biden's sort of responsibility or failure of responsibility in burisma, and that has been kept classified. it has no national security information whatsoever. if mike pompeo could do us one last favor in this country, declassify that document before you leave office at noon on wednesday. the american people would benefit to see what career state department officials really thought about burisma and joe biden. lou: we, we watched an impeachment hearing. george kent figured prominently. >> he did. lou: we heard none of that this his testimony. you and i have talked about the difference between lies and omissions. that was an omission that rose to the level of a lie as far as i'm concerned. and what we watched in that parade, in that impeachment theater fraud was an absolute assault, again, on the constitution. not just on this president. and everything that we expect of our state department employees, our foreign service, they violated that day. without reservation. if they were appearing there before that committee. [inaudible conversations] >> no. you know, it's funny you used the word assault, lou, because during the height of that i had a very good source inside the intelligence community that worked with the state department. and he said if you knew what was being withheld from the president's impeachment team, if you knew what was being it with held from the american people, you would consider this an assault on the common sense of the american people. the bureaucrats are trying to pull a fast one on the american people. not just the president, not just the congress, on the entire american people. and here we are two years later or a year and a half later from that, we still can't get the truth out at this last minute. i hope mike pompeo can find that document, get it to the rightful people to release it. senator johnson is entitled to that document, the president's lawyers are entitled to that document. it would be one last act of transparency that would make us all feel better, i think. lou: well, i don't think i'm going to feel very good about finish. [laughter] any of this for a very long time. >> i agree. lou: i'm serious about that. >> no, i know. lou: this is a government that is broken. and president people in it are unworthy of trust who are leading it whether they're elected officials or whether they are career employees of the federal government. this is an awful moment in american history. i -- to pompeo, your judgment about how helpful he has been in bringing transparency to the state department. >> you know, i think he's had a lot of foreign policy accomplishments. i don't think transparency from the bureaucracy has been one of them. he's done a great job on many important issues, and i think if you watched his twitter account last week, he's done a great job of summarizing the trump foreign policy victories. but he just wasn't willing to get down into the bureaucracy and force them to give up the truth. lou: i thought, john, we should put that on the record. as we await the release are of those documents from the trump white house, john solomon will be on it throughout. the clock is winding down on this presidency and the opportunity to see those documents. john, thanks for being with us. john solomon, "just the news" -in-chief. up next, how can the senate try to convict president trump after he leaves office? we'll take that up with attorney, former federal prosecutor who is among those on the president's impeachment defense team last year. stay with us, we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ [ engines revving ] ♪♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. 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was it an act of conscience as they carried out hearings and investigations on the hillary hoax that was embraced by the fbi, the department of justice and became the narrative against president trump as both a candidate and as president about two years into his presidency? what do you think? >> well, the vote that they should be taking at this point if this thing ever gets to the senate, i got a vote of conscience for you. how about the fact that close to 75 million people voted for president trump, and the senate is trying to consider supposedly as a vote of conscience whether to prevent him from ever running for public office again. i don't think that should be in the hands of 17 republican senators to decide what should be the decision made by 75 million americans. lou: and the idea that he would have to face trial after he has left the presidency. that wouldn't be an impeachment because an impeachment is to remove someone from office at which point he will not be in office. what to you make of that specious -- what do you make of that specious, venomous reasoning, if you can call it that, on the part of the left? >> well, if i were defending the president before the senate, if and when it gets there, the first thing i would be doing would be making a motion to dismiss. because i agree with you, the principal purpose of impeachment is removal from office. now, i understand that the democrats and the left are, you know, their big dream here is to preempt the political process so that donald trump cannot run for president again in four years. again, a judgment that i think is reserved for the people. but to the extent that they proceed town that path, or we are in uncharted territory. none of this has ever been tried before against a former president of the united states, and it would seem to me that before there's ever going to be a trial in the senate, what should happen is there should be a motion to dismiss. if the senate doesn't grant relief, if i were the president and the president's hour ares or the former president -- lawyers or the former president, i would be going to a district court and ultimately on my way to the supreme court for a decision about whether or not this is within the constitutional design or yes. lou: the fbi, robert, is blocking, stonewalling, impeding the release of documents previously classified, declassified by president trump, because they don't want those documents out. the fbi, again, blocking a president of the united states, interfering with his presidency at the behest of his political opponent -- namely, hillary clinton in 2016 -- and pursuing a plot that, an accusation of a plot they knew to be false. this is outrageous, that the fbi and the deep state has the power to block the will of the people as it's expressed in the person of president trump. your thoughts about the fbi and the department of justice as we wrap up. >> lou, you and i have talked about that many times. i mean, the fbi has it all backwards. they think that their first allegiance is to the constitution of the united states, not the will of the people, and that they don't believe they really report to the president of the united states. i have news for them, the president is the executive branch. the fbi works for the president. and the notion that the deep state could pull one like this including interviewing michael flynn four days after the inauguration in 2017 unbeknownst to the white house at the white house, believe it or not, is really a rather extraordinary thing. and ultimately, the people of this country are going to catch up to the fact that that's a very dangerous thing to be doing, and it should never happen as president trump said many times. it should never happen to another president again of. lou: and there's nothing that would stop it, because this administration, the senate leadership and the person of particularly mitch mcconnell, the majority leader, and when they were in control of the house, speaker paul ryan would not, would not issue subpoenas to get to the bottom of obamagate. and that -- history will judge them harshly as, in my judgment, it should. robert ray, it is always good of to have you with us. thanks for being with us, and we look forward to talking with you soon. thanks so much. up next, our next guest says the radical left has exploited the civil rights movement. we talk about that with former civil rights activist bob woodson. we'll be right back, stay with us. ♪ ♪ research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? 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they're silent about that. lou: and that question, and that question should be asked of whites, every american as well. because right now there isn't enough conversation about what we've achieved as a nation, what we have achieved in large measure because of what martin luther king achieved with his movement. we have come a very long way on this journey, and to have the radical left trying to distort history while they derail good and strong efforts to do even better and to watch corporate america go along with this exploited left is sickening, certainly, to me. and, bob, i thank you for your op-ed. >> thank you. lou: you get the last word here, bob. very quickly. >> lou, sometimes something small similar wises all of -- symbolizes all of what you're trying to say. i saw a white woman on the mall with a black lives t-shirt beating a black woman pushing an infant in a stroller. and others were trying to keep this woman -- but there was no outrage. it wasn't reported. now, that's -- i just don't understand how we have declined to the point where this kind of outrage can occur. it doesn't matter what your political philosophy, left, right. but for me to see a mother attacked pushing a baby in a stroller by a white woman who is supposed to represent an organization, black lives matter, supposed to be pursuing justice for blacks, i just don't understand it. why do we permit this? lou: yeah. well, we -- it's, to me, bob, in some ways it's even worse than that. the left has tried to make this a see something, say something society. this great nation was founded on people who did not see something, say something, but when they saw something, they stepped in, they interceded on behalf of whoever was being attacked. they didn't tolerate gangs, they didn't tolerate unfair and vicious public conduct. we've had better times. we can restore those values and those times to our great nation. and because of people like you, bob woodson, i'm optimistic that we'll do so. thanks so much, bob. great to see you. coming up here next, republican leadership, defending those who voted to overthrow the president and to forget 74 million people who voted for donald trump? we take that up with congresswoman lauren bo bart. that's right, she carries a gun, and she's our guest here next. and she's our guest here next. stay restless with the icon that does the same. the rx crafted by lexus. get 0.9% financing on the 2021 rx 350. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. yeah, i mean the thing is, people like geico because it's just easy. bundling for example. you've got car insurance here. and home insurance here. why not... schuuuuzp... put them together. save even more. some things are better together. like um... tea and crumpets. but you wouldn't bundle just anything. like, say... a porcupine in a balloon factory. now, that'd be a mess. i mean for starters, porcupines are famously no good in a team setting. save even more when you bundle home and car insurance. are you frustrated with your weight and health? 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>> this is a page right off the democrat playbook. this isn't anything that i haven't experienced. i just went through a campaign where the dccc and other democrats teamed up to spend more than $5 million against me in a very rural district. nevertheless, their attacks didn't work. people are tired of the politics of personal destruction. they want someone who is going to go to d.c. and know who they work for. i work for the people who sent me to washington, d.c., and i promised them that i would be their voice. and that's exactly what i've been doing in washington, d.c. ever since i've been there. it's been an exciting start, but these attacks from the left, they don't slow me down, they don't deter me. i am, i am excited and ready to get to work for the people of colorado's 3rd district. i'm the first woman, the first mom to have the opportunity to serve the people here in my district, and i'm excited to get to work for them. unfortunately, the democrats would rather run through sham impeachments and accuse us of suppressing voters when i'm doing my constitutional duty to look at the electoral college results that come in to congress and accept or reject those. i was proud of the stand that i took in upholding the constitution of the united states. in looking at some of these states that didn't behave as they ought to, they did not behave constitutionally, and they sent us electoral college results that were unconstitutional. so i am proud to have taken that stand. but now democrats want to say that we are suppressing voters while at the same time wanting to -- well, they did impeach president trump again, and now they want to quite a bit him in the senate. to what? to suppress voters. to make sure that he never runs for president again. it's hypocrisy on full display. lou: it is hypocrisy, and much has been made of the resignation of your communications director just, well, effectively a little over -- >> hey, you know, with that, the reports are not accurate on why he's not with us anymore. but i gotta tell you, lou, my office is different than any other office in congress, and we certainly don't run our office like a d.c. bureaucracy. so it's a very exciting place, and there is always something going on. so i am very proud of the team that we have put together. we are aggressive, we are out in front of the issues, and we are focused on the people of colorado's 3rd district. and i am so excited for the things that we have coming out to help them -- lou: we've got about -- >> we are going -- lou: congresswoman, i hate to interrupt you. i've got to ask you one quick question because we have about 15 seconds. are you going to be carrying a gun to congress? >> i certainly will be carrying. you know, and it was unfortunate that i was left in a vulnerable situation on the house chambers january 6th. and now speaker pelosi is playing these political games by putting magna tommer thes outside of the house chambers to tell the whole world that we are unarmed. and at the same time i have colleagues on the other side who are saying false things about me who are inciting -- lou: congresswoman, you're going to get used to this a lot, but we have these time constraints that i can't -- [laughter] i can't resist. and we're delighted that you spent some time with us. lauren boebert, congresswoman from california. good luck to you -- from (announcer) do you want to reduce stress? shed pounds? do you want to flatten your stomach? do all that and more in just 10 minutes a day with aerotrainer, the total body fitness solution that uses its revolutionary ergonomic design to help you to maintain comfortable, correct form. that means better results in less time. you can do an uncomfortable, old-fashioned crunch or an aerotrainer super crunch. turn regular planks into turbo planks without getting down on the floor. and there are over 20 exercises to choose from. incredible for improving flexibility and perfect for enhancing yoga and pilates. and safe for all fitness levels. get gym results at home in just 10 minutes a day. no expensive machines, no expensive memberships. get off the floor with aerotrainer. go to aerotrainer.com to get yours now. ♪. lou: investigative journalist john solomon says he is confident president trump will be releasing those declassified obamagate documents tomorrow. joining us tomorrow historian victor david hanson and victoria green victimized by twitter. we hope you kennedy: welcome to it. the truth is finally out the cat is out of the bag. and i do not like cats. democrats now admitting the main reason they want to impeach president trump is to punish him. it's a way to keep him from running it may be waiting in 2024. ain't a politics grand? president trump is 40 hours to go in his presidency. joe biden takes over at noon on wednesday. for many democrats that simply not an effort last because speaker nancy pelosi led the charge impeaching the president one count of inciting insurrection. a clear and present danger pretty must go now.

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