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Scapegoated as part of what the president famously called a witch hunt. And now, o man are the president s critics. Among them House Speaker Judiciary Committee chair jerry nadler who had many of the russian hearings. And he said quote this pardon is undeserved, unprincipled and one more stain on President Trumps a rabidly deleting presidency. Subject is abusing his power . Lets get into our prethanksgiving party panel weve got former cia officer, mike baker is here pretty what about diligence . You can say that. Weve also got reason magazine reason. Com editorinchief and former House Press Secretary the one and only Rochelle Ritchie hello everyone. Kennedy lets discuss, mike baker this is clearly an abuse of power. The president has gone mad and has a waning days in the white house. Tell me what happened . The republic is ending this is yet another example. This is a nobrainers far as i am concerned. If you are going to use the president ial pardon power. As offered to the president by the constitution, then i think pardoning flynn makes very good sense. I dont think this is going to lead to any further widening of this. I think right and people are breathless is going to pardoning amanda forward next. Hes going to pardon himself, which is almost as inane as that narrative that went on for three years or so. That we need the military to pull President Trump out of the white house if he lost the election. Everybody needs to calm down. The case against Lieutenant General flynn was shot from hull from the beginning. It was a very, very light sensor was a process crime. The prosecution and the defense won this case dismissed then dutch Emmett Sullivan decided it was his responsibility to ignore that. And rather than act as an umpire between two competing parties now they both want to dismiss and he said lets keep it going. Im fully on board with this pardon. Kennedy there were some issues about the fbi questioning of general flynn. At one point he was told there was an informal meeting. He asked if he should have a returning and theyre like if you have an attorney then working have an attorneys going to get real serious real fast lets keep it informal part lets keep the party polite. But rochelle, you do take issue with this pardon, why . Absolutely. This is an obstruction of justice and abuse of power. I mean Michael Flynn, she said candy, pled guilty twice. The thing about it is now that he has to pardon he cannot plead the fifth. Once he has to testify again. But i dont trust him. If he lied once hes going to lie again as he has before. You cannot trust his actions for you cannot trust his words. But you can trust his pattern. This should not have happened for this is a menu pled guilty to this. There are people sitting in jail right now, right now for crimes they did not commit. There are people who pray for those crimes and cannot vote in an election. And yet this man is able to walk away scott free. Is definitely obstruction of justice. Kennedy i dont know that we are going to talk about equal weight to those comparisons. Someone like james comey, he perjured himself before congress and Andrew Mccabe lied to fbi investigators present Andrew Mccabe essentially created the same crime that Michael Flynn did. Maybe he should rot in a turkish prison as well but i like to ask you, katherine who else would you like to see the president pardon with his writing time . I have a tremendous list if he is interested. But i think one category you should really think about is whistleblowers. And i know this could be controversial. I think Edward Snowden is a candidate. [inaudible] these are people who for better or worse it did what they did because i thought it was best for the country. I think it would be a real opportunity for trump to make a name for himself. The other category he should think about is people who are in jail for up victimless drug crimes. He made a big deal about the first step act. He should be applauded for that. He is already high profile has tons of applause for paired rightly sober there are still so many people who deserve a second chance. He could do that if there are federal crimes absolutely. Matt gates had a creative one, florida congressman said he should pardon joe exotic part of all for that ill tell you why a little later in the show. Very quickly mike baker really have about 15 seconds. You are all for that snowden party earned you . I am. You know ive never answered a question of 15 seconds. Ellipsis an impossible task. Im fully on board with the victimless drug crimes. I think the Prison Reform is essential and absolutely important part i think we are going to go to the mat on this on pardoning snowden thats just me the widow i know. I think if you make the bar, your pardoning somebody because they thought they did what was best for the country, what they thought, then i think we are opening up some issues here. Anyway that is just me, would wind up respected certainly has led to reforms in an ongoing sevenyear conversation that does not look like were going to the end of that chapter soon put in the meantime it looks like no theres trouble in paradise for progressives and the biden transition team. Since the day sleeping joe is made the big uber the lefties have been demanding more from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren get some plum gigs in the biden cabinet. Secretary of labor, secretary of treasury perhaps . On nbc news old joe threw cold water on that idea, watch. We arty have significant representation among progressives in our administration. But there is nothing off the table. One thing is really critical, taking someone out of the senate. Taking someone out of the house at a particular person of consequence is really difficult decision that would have to be made. I have a very ambitious, very Progressive Agenda. And it is going to take really strong leaders in the House Speaker and senate to get it done. Kennedy but not that strong principally socialist progressive stand for this kind of snob . Rochelle, this is very interesting. Should joe biden think about nominating Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warner for two of those cabinet positions . No, i dont think so. And the reason why is he needs them in the senate right now. Their republicans are still controlling the senate. If he has a Progressive Agenda is going to need their support to push that agenda through. I understand those on the far left want to see warren and sanders sitting at the table. But i still think that biting is going to give them a special year when it comes to how he is leading in the oval office. I think is just exactly where they are pretty arty had the governor of massachusetts say that hey, ive warren was appointed to a position in the cabinet, they are going to actually veto legislation that says they have to place her seats with a democrat. Thats problematic there as wel well. Kennedy there are republican governors in vermont and massachusetts. However in vermont governor phil scott would say he would appoint an independent who caucuses with a democrat. Grow a pair phil. Katherine, i think joe biden actually likes the idea of having a Republicancontrolled Senate do you think he is sort of happy about not putting bernie and liz on the cabinet . You and i have talked about how im really getting on team gridlock here. I think we are getting really good results already even from a plausible threat of gridlock. It is not a sure thing at of course because were waiting for georgia. It gives biden cover to do what he has done his whole career which is sticking to the middle of the pack. Follow the party, even now when he is undeniably the leader of his party he would like to not stick as net out for these progressives. I would also very much like him not to stick his neck out for these progressives. And so if this lines up my desires and joe bidens desires im all for it. Before that so kinky. So mike baker what are you willing to bet that joe biden puts one of these two progressives stalwarts, its fun he said he needs people of consequence in the senate. But they are no so consequential that they need to be in a cabinet position that require senate approval. No, im willing to go on the table right now and bet your entire years salary that neither warren nor sanders and ebony cabinet. And part of it is exactly that. They need to stay in the senate. To accomplish anything. I dont believe biden has a mover progressive itinerary out there. Kennedy no way. That would indicate hes changing his ways. Washington loves this. We are moving into a period of time but is most comfortable for washington d. C. Part they love it. The career diplomats, the lobbyist, the politicians. Everybody loves when nothing happens. For arty seeing it to some of the appointments are coming down the pike as we are not going to get that shock in our cabot that some on the rights are throwing out there in an effort to fear monger. Its all my god hes going to appoint omar to the cabinet. Her birdies and be the secretary of labor. I dont see that happening. I think we are going to get is what washington loves best which is status quo. Kennedy because status quo in a partially katherine knows this all too well, that only breeds more spending. And it is sad. But at this point they have enough to disagree about split houses. And we pan will be returning to talk about thanksgiving pretty want to check out my pole twitter. Com at kennedy nation. 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I think Big Companies Like Airlines acting in concert with the government to track where we have been and how healthy we are with Health Passports. What parts of this give you pause . Its an efficacy thing for one thing. He taught shallot of variables. The big one of course is a lot of these tests have been used are not necessarily that reliable anyway. We get to this whole issue of the vaccine, for starters the vast majority of people until sometime in 2021. All this for my suit happened the spring. When covered became it thing for all of us. I see a lot about contact raising apps and the rest of that. They make you demo this on your phone and so on and so forth. And to be clear there are absolutely concerns there. Even in the time thats going on, my reaction is its probably not going to happen because most about not going to download the app. Its happened its not going on here in virginia. And secondly, we talk about contact raising and try to keep track of people, we are way beyond that point. Spector not janco job contact tracy. Im going to talk to dr. Nicole saphier at a little bit. They cannot even trace 80 of the covid cases. So that is not happening. But there is a difference between going out of your way to download an app when you really have no intent to fulfill that on your end. And people who really want to travel. People who want to go see Family Members. And people with wonder at last to want to go to europe. Because now, my worry is Something Like a Health Passport will follow you. And they are going to figure out what you have had. Where you have been. And who youve talked to. Its not just the airlines that are doing this. It is also governments that screw privacy. Theyre going to put all of your Health Records on there. The thing is, right now on this planet there are 13 countries where you cannot even set foot unless you present a certificate of fox nation for yellow fever. Right . And there are dozens of other countries whereby if you go through a country that has yellow fever hotspot, if you are in the airport for 12 or more hours you better have that certificate with you. The idea of having to prove immunization. Kennedy you know covid and yellow fever are vastly different. You can avoid yellow fever and avoid places where there has been an outbreak. With covid that is pretty prevalent, widespread and globa global. Stupid but so is the flu, right . The flu is something that happens that happens all over the globe. If anyone wants to raise an objection to this they should basically be saying we shouldnt do this for the flu why do need to do for this . Why didnt we do it for sars 17 years ago . Why do we do it for bola . Why do we do for this . Theres a level of discrimination is taken place here. I think it is ill advised. But again i think people going wrapped around the axle about the wrong thing. But people ought to be angry about his real id. Make bring up such a good short i want to bring it back up on the show to talk about that. I dont think people realize was going to happen the following 2020 when we are forced to get all new ids, drivers license, anything short of a passport. That is also crazy business. My worry about the Health Passport it is a bell that would not be on wrong even when covid passes. Patrick eddington thank you so much. Select thank you. Kennedy is a stunning admission from the Los Angeles County Public Health. They said they have no Scientific Evidence to justify shutting down in person dining in restaurants, let alone Outdoor Dining. The u. S. Is hitting some grim pandemic milestones. Yesterday the most deaths in one day since maple hospitalizations are up around the country. Weve got to separate fact from fiction but whats the smartest way for americans to continue to fight the spread as we officially us from the Holiday Season with a Family