We have pushback against a biden coindividual advisor that the federal government should enforce a nationwide u. S. Lock down, that u. S. Taxpayers pay for it, paying everybodys wages including u. S. Government workers. The white house covid19 task force is warn about this. The debate is lockdowns did throw 30 Million People out of work. The debate tonight, is that really the fix . The pandemic is bad. Everyone understands that. The half the country according to gallup would be against another lockdown. They would not comply with it. Plus experts say, federal lockdown run by the u. S. Government is unconstitutional. This is likely why people are taking to the streets to protest lockdowns in dozens of countries around the world on five major continents. In every region of the globe from poor to rich. As more u. S. Politicians warn, dont you dare turn your thanks giving or Christmas Celebration into a superspreader event or well punish you big time. Dont you talk loudly or sing in bars. That is a warning from a democrat governor. Well play you the sound tonight. Plus is the Trump Administration preparing to declassify more trumprussia probe documents and more Michael Flynn documents as the president makes person until changes at the nsa and pentagon. Could we see more bombshells . Well show you our recap of the media in the time of President Trump as members of the unbiased, nonpartisan free press now advising people to go ahead, move to georgia, to ruin republicans chances of winning in the Senate Runoff there, even though georgia Officials Say that is voter fraud and a felony. To this story, are government authorities finally throwing the book at rioters and looters . As a portland gentleman, an individual was charged with a disturbing vicious beating caught on tape t was a beating that nearly killed a man. He get as sentence critics say is not tough enough. Thanks for joining us. Im elizabeth macdonald. The evening edit joins us right now. Elizabeth okay. Lets go right at it with me on the phone right now is mick mulvaney. He is former white house chief of staff. Mick, always great to have you back on the show. Mick, are you advising the president to concede . Are you telling anyone close to President Trump he should concede . Absolutely not. I have not talked to the president the last couple days. I talked to other folks at the white house. No, im giving them the same advice Hillary Clinton gave joe biden, there is no reason to concede. Al gore waited 37 days. He fully litigated the matter in 2000. That is exactly what the trump team should be and is doing right now. There is no reason to concede. It doesnt have any bearing anyway. The results are going to be what the results are. Concessions are some of our practices so forth, the history, not really binding. It doesnt make any difference. Joe biden could concede tonight. If he wins it wouldnt make any difference. No, concession is one of the things a lot of people in the leftwing media care about. They ignored the fact that biden was getting instructions never to concede. Thats fine. I do not expect a concession in anytime soon if ever. What you will see continued battle in the courts which is exactly what we expected. That is the right place for them to be. Elizabeth you know, weve got reports of multiple trump advisors telling, telling the president that lawsuits wont change the outcome of the election. That they dont see a path to victory. Were hearing that President Trump is coming to terms with this he is talking about running in 2024. Weve got sources saying that multiple news outlets, including fox news, that trump would concede if a lawsuits dont work and closest he may come to conceding, we cant trust the results but im not contesting them. Is that what youre hearing . Im not. That may be. By the way, that is legitimate conversation to have. If you think you can win the lawsuits but it doesnt change the outcome, that is a conversation that needs to be had. That is a rational thing to be discussing right now in the white house. No, im not hearing anything that the people are encouraging one way or the other what the president should do. Im glad to see what theyre doing trying to figure out who really won. You would think everybody on both sides would want to know who won this election. With all of the rumors, which are now starting to be back you had up by evidence. That is important, liz. Were starting to see affidavits first time. Starting to see hard evidence for the first time. That is development the last 24, 48 hours. There is no reason to rush it. No reason to give up. You go through at the end. Day you look people in the eye, people can no who the real win are is the race. Important for the country we do that. Of the it is important that nobody give up early. Elizabeth weve got a growing number of republican senators joining senator James Langford saying that joe biden should be given classified briefings. Senator Chuck Grassley saying that. Senator Lindsay Graham saying that. Senator rob portman, john thune saying that. What do you think . I dont see the harm in doing that. Joe biden was Vice President. He has been senator for decades. There is no harm that i can see coming from actually getting him read in on some of these matters. If he turns out that trump wins, there has been no harm by sharing that information with joe biden. If joe biden ends up winning the country benefits from having a president getting up to speed. That is one of the places i dont see harm in allowing biden to start to be read in those things. Elizabeth go right at it. The Trump Campaign dropped the lawsuit in nevada challenging the ballot counting. Included hundred of outofstate addresses used by active military families vote absentee while stationed away from home. We hear what youre saying about the affidavits and Trump Victory today in pennsylvania disqualifying a number of mailin ballots for pennsylvania voters unable to confirm their identification but the issue is this big enough to turn around the vote down right now . Because you know, were seeing the math, it would have to be tens of thousands of societies spread across pennsylvania and two of three other battlegrounds in order for this to be reversed. In the past weve seen recounts involving hundreds of votes, not tens of thousands of votes, mick. Fair enough. Liz, dont lose track of the fact that the president is leader of the party. While there may not be enough votes, i dont know, there may not be enough votes in pennsylvania to turn the president ial election, there may be enough to turn a congressional race or local county council race or school board race. We need to know all of the winners. All of the legal winners of this race. I hear what youre saying. I know sometimes those or the races, those down ballot races get lost but integrity of this election matters just as much for school board as it does the president of the United States. They are completely right i think, at the white house to continue to press the issue. Elizabeth yeah. We hear what youre saying because it is congressional races and senate races. It is understood. You would think nobody would want to go into office with a cloud over their head or an asterisk by their name, mick, is that what youre saying . Why doesnt everybody want to know who won . That is why i ask my democrat friends, i ask the media, do other networks, dont you want to know . We hear same rumors dead people voting. We hear same anecdotes. Or is it important enough your guy wins you dont care what the facts are. Yes, it could take a couple weeks. Yes, it could be ugly but at the end of the process if the majority of country can look yourself in the eye, if you know what, i believe this person won and this person lost. There is benefit of that to this nation. It is worth going through little bit of difficult times the next couple weeks to get to that end point. Elizabeth okay, the trump team is doing a long shot effort to try to stop state officials from certifying election results. That is what the wall street journal is reporting reporting with lawsuits and the like. The certification starts next week in georgia. It rolls through pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, arizona and nevada. Do you think this is going to take how wrong . Do you think it will take a month or longer . What do you think . Took, what, 37, 40 days for gore, bush in 2000. By some miracle the country still managed to soldier on. Well do it again, if it takes shorter than that, thats fine. If it takes longer than that thats fine. The value of the knowledge and the value of having some integrity in the system is worth taking extra couple weeks. We will have either a peaceful transition of power come january 20th. You can simply take that to the bank there is not constitutional crisis. There is not undermining democracy. Every time someone asks me do i think the trump team undermining democracy . I ask them if the circumstances were exactly the opposite, trump had every vote biden had and vice versa, fox declared donald trump to be the winner the left would be screaming they are undermining democracy. That is not happening. No one is undermining democracy. We have to take time to do it right. We can and should do that. Elizabeth shut be pointed out trumps allies talked about counting any votes. That would delegitimatize trumps victory. You hear one side. This is over. Biden won, game over, this is done. The other side said wait a second, there issues, there are voting irregularities. The question again and again, mick, is it enough to overturn the vote count. What are you hearing, what are you saying . Im having difficult get a straight answer to your question, im having difficult getting good information about the number of votes outstanding in arizona. The number of votes outstanding in pennsylvania. I suggest the point is moot whether or not it is enough votes to change the president ial election. It may change the Georgia Senate race, it may change a Pennsylvania House race. We get caught up at the top of the ticket you about every race matters. I think the trump team as head of the party is right to be leading that charge. It may be they dont have enough votes to win pennsylvania, if they beat conor lamb in his House District outside of philadelphia, that makes a difference. That is worth debating. It is worth litigating. It is worth spending time and energy to resolve. Elizabeth okay. You know, mick, lets move on. We have another issue we would like to talk to you about if you have a second. We have a report by politico coming in the white house will potentially making big, conservative policy moves. Potentially 15 executive orders and executive actions in the next ten weeks on trade, on health care, china and school choice. White house chief of staff mark meadows is being quoted asking senior this is quote, he was asking senior aides on a call for considered. You know, we dont, we dont know how legally binding each of these actions might be but the president did sign an executive order today barring americans from investing in some companies that help chinas military. So we could see more actions like that in coming weeks. What do you think of that, mick . I think it is great. He is the president until he not the president. He is the president , if he loses he is the president until january 19th. If he wins he is president another four years and two months. He is right to be doing that, to tee up the next administration. Look what happened today. We banned people from investing in certain things related to china. Do we think joe biden will come in on the first day of his administration to undo that . I hope not. Maybe he will. It is worth laying on the table. Okay, to possibly incoming biden administration, do you really want to undo these things . The president is the president until he is not. He has the right to do this. The Constitutional Authority to do. This is nothing wrong. Certainly not first president to do executive orders in a lame duck. Huge pieces of legislation passed through a lame duck. There is nothing magic about this period of time. Elizabeth mick mulvaney, we love having you on. Youre a straightshooter. Tell it like it is. Thanks for joining us. Good to see you. Thanks, liz. Elizabeth go right at it again, well bring back on the show, former louisiana governor bobby jindal. Governor, i want your take on this story. Good to see you again. Bidens covid19 advisor, dr. Michael osterholm says the u. S. Should go into a total National Lock down for up to six weeks to control the covid19 pandemic while a vaccine ramps up. He says it would revive the economy and the u. S. Taxpayers can pay for everyone as wages during it including government workers. We know the White House Covid Task force saying hospitalizations are up. This is really dangerous, lethal virus but do you think this is the right move at this time . First of all, liz, thank you for having me back. Yes, look, numbers will get worse. Were seeing the number of cases go up, setting records. Number of hospitalizations go up. Fortunately we have new treatments, vaccines about to be approved. Pfizer is first. Probably moderna and others soon thereafter. This is absolutely the wrong move at the wrong time. You have to wonder what advice is Vice President biding getting . First one advisor, dr. Emanuel america should give vaccines to other countries before america gets a vaccine. He contradicted Government Experts say we shouldnt across the world prioritize elderly others most vulnerable a second advisor saying he wants to lock down the entire economy for four to six weeks. Liz, why is he being so cheap. Why is he federal government to use money to replaces everybodys dollars. Why not buy everybody a car . That is ridiculous plan. Governor of mississippi, tate, this is not constitutional. The federal government down have the power this is something states, governors can decide based on local circumstances. We can be safe, protect the vulnerable from the virus without shutting down the economy. What i am worried about, biden speculating about a National Mask mandate, before he realize he doesnt have the power to do it. Speck lating about shutting down the economy. This is not about the economy. This is not legal, constitutional from a top down, one size fit all federal approach. Elizabeth with a lockdown that threw 30 Million People out of work, right . So and by the way, you know, the federal government, would they even have the man power to enforce a federal government, nationwide lockdown, right . How would they enforce it . You raise a great question. I talked to parents, friends of mind whose kids are in college. You hear about onerous requirements testing kids every three days. Students are reporting on each other. Tracking their i. D. Cards to see where they go on campus. Imagine if the federal government tried to do that across the country. Can you imagine coming to your house to make sure you dont have too many people for thanksgiving . Come into the your house to make sure you do not have too many people in the backyard. We can barbecue outside. It is little warmer down here than up there. Theyre monitoring peoples social media accounts to make sure youre not hanging out with too many people. This is ridiculous. It is are consistent. You heard what Governor Cuomo said. He said it was good news, but bad news the Pfizer Vaccine would come out during the Trump Administration. Time tore democrats to put country before party. Reality is they should welcome the good news. Operation warp speed is producing new therapeutics, new medications. Were seeing new vaccines. That is great news. It will be rough, lets be monnest for American People. Next few days, next few weeks, during cold weather came, flu season it is getting worse. Not only here it is gets worse. Lockdowns are not the answers. Criticizing vaccines is not the answer. Criticizing is this not the answer. Elizabeth you lock down, people go indoors. We understand the nature what is happening. Dr. Osterholm is talking like the federal government has the power to do it. He saying the spring lockdown was not uniform and tough enough across the board, states like minnesota deemed 80 of workers essential. This is top down. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz talking about people singing or talking too loudly in bars. Or shut down Dining Service after 10 00 p. M. If youre singing, playing darts, standing next to someone in crowded bar you will be a super spreading, he says you will be spreading it. This is top down talk were now seeing again we heard back in the spring. What do you think . Liz, first of all, sounds like the good doctors real complaint is with the democratic governor of minnesota. If he didnt like the lockdown, probably only person in the country looking back at spring the problem in america we didnt have lockdowns long enough, strict enough. I dont know how in the world they expect any kind of compliance. The American People will not put up with this nonsense this is fundamental approach between the left and right. This is they want topdown approach. This is dangerous virus. You need to army the American People with the facts. You need to tell them the best things they need to do to protect themselves. They shouldnt unnecessarily expose themselves to risk and make responsible decisions not to goes their children and families. We play outdoor sports. Im glad theyre able to do that. Some districts some states theyre not able to do that. There is no way for the federal government to enforce this. This needs to be a state and local decision based on local circumstances. I dont think the left understand what the damage is done to the economy. The businesses dont magically come back. It is easy to an academic preyou shut off th