Documents showing fbi agents personally bought insurance for themselves fearing they would be sued because of the, quote, madhouse going on behind the scenes of the fbi, the misconduct there. The flynn probe was such a problem, it was a, quote, nightmare at the fbu, that the agent running it, quote, was obsessed with conspiracy theories. That person thought to be Andrew Mccabe. And so flimsy was the case against flynn, that the fbi planned to shut it down earlier than realized, in november of 2016, the day trump won. But top fbi officials kept it alive to satisfy the Obama Administration. Plus, ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent who worked on both the flynn case and the Mueller Probe said he believes the flynn probe was part of a, quote, push to get trump, that trumprussia collusion was not there, it was a dead end, that the flynn probe was so, quote, problematic and based on such dumb theory thats a quote that he even warned there would be an investigation into what the fbi would do, and he threatened to quit. Also with us tonight former Trump Campaign adviser carter page. Remember, he was targeted by fbi agents who are now accused of deceiving that fisa court to get wiretaps to spy on him. Carter page on this new bombshell, that the main source for the debunked antitrump steele dossier, remember are, it was paid for by the democrats and the campaign, they helped paw for it and it was used by the fbi to get those wiretaps . That this guy was likely a russian spy who the fbi had already investigated for two years and deemed a possible threat to National Security. Also with us tonight, the hill media reporter joe concha on a new revelation. Just how many days has joe bide been spending off of the campaign trail . Not doing any Campaign Events . With just days to go before the first debate, and now this nancy pelosi again doubled down today saying cancel the debates. And detroits police chief on a frightening story, a family of Trump Supporters who had to flee their homes with their two infant children after rioters set on fire and burned to the ground their home garage and their vehicles. Why . Because they had a trump 2020 sign at their house. Well, thanks for joining us. Im elizabeth mcdonald. Weve got a jam of packed show, the evening edit starts right now. Elizabeth okay. Joining me on the phone now is Sidney Powell, attorney for Michael Flynn. Were going to start rolling on the f with wi text the fbi Text Messages that were revealed. Sidney, what exactly was president obama and the Obama Administration doing to put such pressure on fbi agents and analysts that they said they were glad to close the flynn case on the day trump was elected, then there was pressure to keep it open, they felt that they had to personally buy insurance because they thought they were going to be sued because of the misconduct going on at the fbi . What was president obama and the Obama Administration doing here . Well, obviously, they were exerting significant pressure on comey and mccabe to keep the investigation going, apparently particularly through comeys meeting with biden and obama and susan rice and sally yates on january 5th and apparently for a few days before either by phone or some kind of other meeting that i think is reflected in strzoks notes that were given to us a few weeks ago indicating that obama said he wanted the right people put on it and the investigation to continue. Biden mentioned the logan act. I think there was a meeting before the 5th or at least a conversation before the 5th that included that information. Elizabeth you know, are you going to take this to the Supreme Court . If we have to. Im hoping judge sullivan gets it right and salvages whats left of his reputation. Because hes, he was the hero of my book license to lie only to be a major disappointment when a different context involving a republican that was and a Republican Attorney general. Stevens, of course, was asked to be dismissed by eric holder, but that wasnt what happened in this case. Elizabeth the fbi Text Messages talk about how the flynn probe was based on, quote, conspiracy theories, was a nightmare, that basically, you know, if this ths becomes public, theres going to be tough questions through freedom of information act requests. William barnett, hes the fbi guy who work on the trumprussia probe and the sit right there, sidney, were going to cut to President Trump. Hes speaking right now. Lets listen to President Trump. [inaudible] well, shes outstanding, but i havent said that. Ill be announcing it tomorrow at 5 00. We are going to make a round table now, and then im going virginia, as you know. Were doing a rally tonight. And then well call it a day. I would say thats a pretty good day. [inaudible] in florida . Say who . [inaudible] no, i did not. By the way, a very highly thought of person, but i did not. [inaudible] amy coney barrett. Is that what theyre telling you . [inaudible] youll find out tomorrow. Shes very look, theyre all great. It could be any one of them. Could be, actually, anyone orphan anyone on the list. Theyre outstanding. But ill be announcing tomorrow at the white house. So were going for a round table now. We had an exciting day with hispanics and the africanamerican community. Were going to have a big round table now at the hotel, and then were going, i dont know whos going we me, is anybody going with me on this . The rally. Steve, you want to see another rally, i know that. [inaudible] go ahead . [inaudible] okay, good. [inaudible] well, i havent said it was her, but she is outstanding. But theyre all outstanding. Theyre all very outstanding people. Top of the line academically and every way possible. [inaudible] i did not. No, i did not. I didnt. Have a good time, everybody. [inaudible] say it . Do you promise to appoint prolife justices [inaudible] is the goal to overturn roe v. Wade . No, no. Youll be seeing all of that tomorrow. We have not made our intentions felt, but youll be seeing tomorrow, okay in good. Thank you. [inaudible] and ill see some of you, some are traveling with me tonight. And i think i speak tonight at 9 00 in virginia, okay . Thank you. [inaudible conversations] elizabeth thats president okay, thats President Trump on the way to virginia talking about the Supreme Court nomination announcement will come together. Lets get back to Sidney Powell and our discussion of what happened with these fbi Text Messages revealing serious abuses of power going on behind the scenes at the fbi. Sidney, you know, theres also talk of, you know, just keeping it open by going after general Michael Flynns financial records through the use of National Security letters, that sort of circumvents subpoenas. In other words, do that, keep it hidden from Michael Flynn. These are major abuses of power. How do you hold the guys who are doing this accountable . Well, the ones who were trying to make up a crime against him certainly should be prosecuted for obstruction the of justice. The abuse of power that went into the extended investigation and the harassment of him and his son proposed violations of section 242, i think, abuse of power involving his civil rights, and those are at least misdemeanor offenses that should be prosecuted in this circumstance. Lawyers should, at minimumming lose their law licenses, and those who knew exactly what they were doing and working so hard to do it here should be prosecuted for their conspiracies and falsification of documents and everything else. Elizabeth you know, we just were showing Text Messages indicating that the fbi analysts talking about what was going on in the flynn case behind the scenes, indicated that they felt white house senior official were the ones leaking to the media. So thats parking lot of the story too, right part of the story too the, right, about media leaks coming out of james comey has already admitted that and white house senior officials, your reaction to that, in order to keep the flynn and the trumprussia probe going when there was no sure. Yes, we know now that the fbi leaked information at different times to put articles in the media that they could then justify whatever they wanted to do, and special counsel did the same thing. I think more evidence at some point will come out about that too. Of course, right after flynn entered his first guilty plea, the evidence exploded in the press that all the Text Messages between strzok and page indicated their affair and their hatred of President Trump. But that was, they managed to suppress that until right after the guilty plea. Elizabeth it just feels like when you put it all together, this was a topdown effort just to get, you know, President Trump and michael for instance. When you look at it in toto, you know, everything. Weve been covering it since 2017, fbi agents talking about, you know, behind the scenes people here are scrambling for information to support their theories, its a madhouse, you know, things like Andrew Mccabe was supposed to be, thought to be the, quote, worst offender of rabbit hole thinking and conspiracy theories about this. So, you know, when you put it all together, it just feels like a real push to, you know, to bring down and block President Trump to be elected on the part of the Obama Administration. Thats what i think thats what people want to know, how much was president obamas fingerprints on this . His fingerprints are all over it. Theres the reference in the new Text Messages about how his briefing went on january 5th. So it was a fullfledged briefing. And, of course, we have susan rices memo on it and james comeys memo on it. Theres a lot of information about that, and now we know that there are other people who need to be asked about it as well. And mr. Barnett, the fbi agent whose 302 is included in the governments filing last night, says it was a topdown operation. Hes absolutely clear about that. Elizabeth yeah. And he threatened to quit over it. You know . So well be staying on the story. Sidney, we always love having you on. We really appreciate your insights and perspectives, and well be staying on the general Michael Flynn case as well. Sidney powell, thanks again. Thank you so much, liz. Elizabeth sure. Next up, former independent counsel ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent, William Barnett, who worked on both the flynn cause and the Mueller Probe, says he believes the flynn probe was part of a push to, quote, get trump, that trumps russia collusion was not there, or they didnt have the case, didnt have the predicate for a criminal probe and that the flynn probe was, quote, so problematic and base on such, quote, dumb theory, he even warned there would be an investigation into it, and he threatened to quit. That story next. But it turned out to be the opposite story. It was them who were dealing with russia. Think of people in a place. But when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. So, when you get a check. You can deposit it from here. And you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. You can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. And you can pay your friends back from here. 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Barnett, a respected fbi agents indictment, as it were, of the special counsels office and their fanciful theory of collusion, all made up. The theory of the day. Andrew weissmann having the here theory of the day being, hey, weve got the evidence of a quid pro quo. It all happened on a yacht near greece. And then that socalled evidence doesnt develop at all. And that theory is forgotten within a day or two. And that attitude within the special counsels office, bob muellers office was were not out to get the facts, were out to get trump. This is a terrible indictment of the special counsel. Elizabeth yeah, its totally poison for the american system. Again and again weve been saying, you know, the viewer out there has to understand that we dont this is, using the Intelligence Community to go after an opposition candidate. William barnett told the u. S. District attorney he didnt want to pursue trumprussia collusion because it was, quote, not there, there was no criminal basis for it, that it was supposition based on supposition that it was, quote, a dead end, that this was basically run by lawyers from the top down, Andrew Mccabe, james comey on down. It was a fishing expedition, you know, basically searching for facts to fit a crime when they didnt have a criminal basis to start the probe to begin with. Thats what William Barnett is saying. Whats your reaction . My reaction is shame on Andrew Mccabe and shame on peter strzok. And likely, although comeys name is not all over this particular 302, but the leadership at the fbi or is very much to blame under james comey for all the bad things that you rightly said happened, and thats at the fbis feet. Again, the last part of the 302 goes on to his service, mr. Barnetts service, in the special counsels office, and that is really disturbing. They werent professional. Read the 302, and you will come away, a fairminded person will come away that mr. Barnett, a career fbi agent, integrity unquestioned, saying lack of integrity on the part of bob muellers team. They had a theory. They, again, were not out to get at the truth. Shame on them. Shame on them. Elizabeth yeah. What they have put this country through is, if its not a crime, it certainly is a travesty of justice. Elizabeth yeah. Its a theory in search of a crime. And William Barnett is indicating that, you know, the mueller team and the fbi officials are basically acting as if they were part of something bug, they wanted to be part of something big, theres the evidence out there, we just have to find it. So instead of just letting the facts and the evidence take you to the conclusion, they had this umbrella theory that didnt pan out. Your final word on this. Yeah, exactly, didnt pan out. Instead of doing it in a professional way, doing precisely what you said, lets find out the facts and assess the facts, instead they superimposed a theory. The president of the United States is essentially engaged in traitorous acts, and that was so unfair and unfounded, and he was blowing the whistle all throughout. He wanted to be taken off the investigation, it was so unprofessional, and he thought, in fact, there might even be danger of charges against those who were involved in the investigation. So its a very damning insight into the special counsels office as well as the fbis leadership. Elizabeth ken starr, its great to have you on, sir. Come back soon. Thank you. Elizabeth coming up, Detroit Police chief james craig with us on the frightening story of a family of Trump Supporters who had to flee their homes with their two infant children after rioters set on fire their garage at their home and vehicles. Why . Because they had a trump 2020 the sign out front. That story next. 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