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FBC The Evening Edit July 13, 2024

Campaign deputy manager david bossie, and the intercepts Founding Editor, Glenn Greenwald, whos taking a wrecking ball to cnn, msnbc and other media for what he calls resistance journalism against trump instead of just reporting the facts. Republicans now say the media got played by the Obama Administration and the fbi with predetermined leaks in the trump russia probe a and the flynn probe. Weve got that and much more. This is happening, Senate Judiciary moving in its probe, firing off document requests about obama officials demanding the nsa unmask the trump Team Including President Trump, his children, donald, ivanka Jared Jared Kushner and more. And wed have this, House Republicans now driving ahead. They want to talk directly to one of the fbi agents who interviewed Michael Flynn. Also this that curious email from susan rice saying the Obama Administration and president obama did things, quote, by the book is now declassified. Were going to talk about that and how anything, it was basically done, far from being done by the book. Also Michael Flynns attorney files a motion to boot, to get rid of the judge on the flynn case for egregiously a overstepping his authority. Im elizabeth macdonald, the evening edit starts right now. Elizabeth welcome to the show. Youre watching the fox business network. Lets welcome indiana senator michael brawn. Senator, great to have you on. Hi, liz. Elizabeth hey, senator, you had a lunch meeting today with the president. Can you fill us in on what you guys talked about . I would say that the general with tone of the discussion was broad ranging, but on the topic were going to talk about i think that the president is sensing that maybe his moment of vindication is coming. There was an exchange between him and Lindsey Graham, and the president , a i think after al that hes been through where hes been harassed from the moment he was elected through the Mueller Report that fell flat, through impeachment that we need to get to the bottom of what was going on. And from what you just mentioned in terms of the number of individuals, letters, potential subpoenas, this looks like its the real thing. He threw the gauntlet down at lunch that, you know, stick together on the topic. Democrats always do when they come at you. And i think its fully warranted because the president s been under a assault. Its impacted the agenda. The agendas been working wonderfully in terms of the economy, and thats one reason well get through coronavirus, and the economy will get back on its feet. But, in general, i think he felt upbeat because finally e the day of reckoning is coming. Elizabeth you know, senator, Senate Judiciary led by senator Lindsey Graham, theyre going to vote june 4th to approve subpoenas of potentially 53 obama officials. The list is extensive, its james comey, john brennan, loretta lynch, also john podesta. Also demanding thehe nsa un yu know, finding out who demanded that the nsa unmask the president , his children, donald j. And ivanka trump, jared kushner, Kellyanne Conway and others. Usually you unmask if people are doing talking to foreign governments. Its unclear if that was happening with these individuals or if this is just, you know, unmasking for political opposition purposes. Whats your, whats your take on that . Whats going on there . I think well are that revealed. Have that reveale. I think the big essence of what you said, 53, that is so many. It means it goes deep and broadly into an institution that we should expect differently of it. And thank goodness lindsay is bringing it to the forefront. If there really are are that many individuals involved where you immediatete to find out and even if it gets down to a small fraction of it, thats significant. The American Public ought to be concerned about that. That is really the deep state kind of run amok, and its time, like i say, that we get the truth. Elizabeth you know, senator, House Republicans led by jim jordan, also devin nunes, they want to get to the bottom of the trump russia probe. Jim jordan wants to talk directlyly to fbi agent joseph y yen ca. He interviewed Michael Flynn somehow those interview notes are nowhere to be found. The fbi wanted to drop that case. Peter strzok and the seventh floor of the fbi kept it open. The questionnd is, was that by e book . Now we have that curious email from susan rice to herself saying obama did things by the book. Its now declassified. James comey and obama really look like they were really looking hard and focusing sharply on Michael Flynn. Was this, any of this does this sound like all of this is by thef book to you . Sounds like a Rogue Mission, to me. And i think when you put the two and two together as we watched it all unfold, if you recall, it was immediately kind of dismissed as Conspiracy Theory. No, thats been debunked. Those were kind of the two dismissal statements that youd hear that never did make sense. And there was so much going on in the process of trying to get at the origins of it. I knew from just talking to lindsey and ali few other Committee Chairs that it was going to happen. I think the fact that its taken this long, maybe that means theyre just martialing the case to make it effective. Ffbecause my discussion with lindsey would have been probably back in december or january. Things never move quickly around here to begin with, but, no, i think its more than just with not i following the book or getting out of line. I think that was revealed with horowitzs, you know, initial pass onni it. Im also interested to see elizabeth yeah. Where durham goes, because the Justice Department will be weighing in as well. I think thisll all be con verging in a way thats going to make a clear case. Youll see that it wasas a Rogue Mission to go after the president which looked like it had the foundation from right after he was elected in terms of how it was going to be orchestrated. Never imagined that something likeli that could be done in ths country. We need to get to thehe bottom f it. Elizabeth you know, senator, the question about whether susan rice is right that things were done by the book, you know, you could see the pushback on that wasnt by the book to have the steele dossier with russian disinformation in it used to launch fisa wiretaps and the trump russia probe. Was it by the book to leak information to the media to get, basically, the special Counsel Robert Mueller appointed . Was it by the book to leak information to the Washington Postto t get to set the stage for flynn interview that the fbi initially wanted to shut down, but then they, or you know, set upp a potential perjury trap for him. Was that by the book . That stuff is i all by the book. You know, i thinknk we need a nw book. And that, again, would be a talking point where, to be honest, this was getting no traction. Other than in a place or two. And when i talk to the folks that have brought it to this point, especially lindsay, he said it will happen, well get there, i didnt think it would end up being early june. But i think when you is have got to pry as hard as hes apparently going to have to pry in the preparation to do on. Elizabeth senator, great to have you on. Thankal you. Elizabeth this coming thursday, may 28th, 11 a. M. Eastern time with host Stuart Varney join by best selling author and radio host david ramsey e and much more. You know what . They just might answer them during this special. Coming up, weve got the intercepts Founding Editor, Glenn Greenwald, taking a sledgehammer toe what he calls resistance journalism. Hes calling out cnn and msnbc for spending the last three years, quote peddling all sorts of ultimately discredited conspiracy theories about trump russia collusion, but they didnt have on their airwaves anyone who would disagree with them. Glenn greenwald is our guest coming up later in the show. Its best we stay apart for a bit, but youre not alone. Were automatically refunding our customers a portion of their personal auto premiums. Learn more at libertymutual. Com covid19. [ piano playing ] then you might have a dcondition called dry mouth. . Biotene is clinically proven to soothe and moisturize a dry mouth. Plus, it freshens breath. Biotene. Immediate and long lasting dry mouth symptom relief. As the covid19 pandemic sweeps the world we urgently need your help. 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Well, im not going to get into specific names, and ive had a longstanding policy of that because ilo just dont thik its appropriate. I think we have to have a strong Justice System in this country. And what i have talked about is i have talked about what we did rear if for. So we have two conspiracy rear if for. We have one referral specifically on a set of meeks, another referral on leaks and a referrals on lying or misleading congress. So thats the breadth of the referrals. I also expect now that a lot of people have been ablet, to reada lot of whats been declassified over the last couple months, i do expect to have referrals on what i call the mueller dossier team who put together a twopart fantasyland story and then also indicted people from that. If so i expect to have some indictments on that also at some point. Or, im sorry, referrals. Elizabeth you were just h sayi, the conspiracy referrals, could you explain just in general terms . I know you cant get into specifics, i understand that, you cant name names. Generally, what is it about conspiracy here . Yeah. So theres two specific ones. So there question is what did people conspire to do. So if you look at defraud the United States is a good one. Lie and mislead congress, obstruct, obstruction of justice, civil rights violations. So people conspired to do that in two different areas. From our perspective, from our investigation. One was for the purpose of they manipulated, they conspired to manipulate intelligence to break all m of those laws. And that, you know, that refers, everything from the Intelligence Community assessment to other things that were done. On the other side, they conspire to abuse the fisa system, the system that we use in this country to target criminals or terrorists or people that are trying to steal our nations secrets. And thats the other referral. Very similar referrals but kind of two different areas that we have been investigating over the years. Elizabeth you know, the breaking news, the full text of susan rices email to herself where she said that early january 2017 meeting, that that meeting that obama did things by the book, it has been declassified. It shows james comey suggested obama and his officials not share information related to russia with Michael Flynn. Whats your take on the new information about this email . Well, i would say, first, why would this classified to begin with . Why wasnt this made public . It took ambassador grenell, the acting director of intelligence, to actually come forward and declassify this. This is something we have wanted to see for a very long time. Secondly, if you really read it closely, its actually exculpatory, right . Because comey admits to obama, according c to if you can believe anything they say, okay, which is a whole other question. You have to really, you know, if you read the fine print, its actually p exculpatory on generl flynn, because they admit they didnt have anything. But when you go to things that we actually do know that are factual, the day before there had been a closing the day before the meeting, remember, the email was from two weeks later, which is thats a strange circumstance in and of itself. But you go back to january 4th, 2017, the fbi agent who was in charge of the flynn case had wrotete a closing communication, and it was prepared to be filed. Then you had the dirty cop start toll call, to stop that closure from happening. Then you have the ultimate interview of general flynn, i believe on january 24th, in the white house where that 302 that congress had been briefed on and we had had other people tell us about the existence of it, that 302 for your viewers, a 302 is a report that fbi agents do after every meeting. There is no 302. Its gone missing. So there was one and its gone missing. Those are the types of things that when you look at hard evidence thatt we know exists, i think thats going to be tough, tough to really get away from hopefully once indictments come forward. With that said, you know, the purpose of that email, i dont know, but clearly it was exculpatory on general flynn. Clearly and, also, you have to look at was comey lying to the president at that time, because there was no information that would say that general flynn was, you know, any type of, you know, shouldnt even be hinted that there was anything that general flynn could possibly do that one would be concerned about in the u. S. Government. Elizabeth quickly, can you give us a general feel about your referrals, about lying and also referrals about leaks . Yeah. And, you know, let me go back to what you just you know, your first question on obama and biden. I dont want people to think that obama and biden are, are innocent. In fact, i think theyre, i think theyre very much involved in this. [laughter] i think they knew a lot about it. But just because knowledge about it doesnt necessarily mean that they were in on it, you know . Did they break any laws. And thats really what were trying to get to the bottom of. I feel very confident that durham doing the job that we expect him to do. Elizabeth allll right. Congressman nunes, we ran out of time there. Will you come back on . Come back soon. Thanks so much. Id be glad to come back on. Elizabeth sure, terrific. Well have you on. Coming up later in the show, republicans and immediate what critics increasingly media critics increasingly say the media t did get played by the Obama Administration and the fbi. They leaked to the media in order to fuel and power ahead the trump russia probe even though there was a lot of problems. Also it happened in the prosecution of michael flip, a lot of problems there. Were bringing in former doj official tom dupree to talk about how this happened and whether it should be with stopped from happening again. The storyryryryry you ever wish you werent a motaur . Sure. Sometimes i wish i had legs like you. Yeah, like a regular person. No. Still half bike half man, just the opposite. Oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top . Yeah. Yeah, i could see that

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