In, he was not alone in slamming them along with jonathan allen, declaring the trump campaign, the winner of the first democratic debate. But if you ask most viewers they would say the real winners were people who did not watch. So can democrats find a formula to derail the trump train on day number two of the debate . Or have they given that way too . The policy at site lets meet this panel. The managing director and trump 2020 Advisory Board member david meister. Along with cohost of the fox news channel, decorated author and servant of mankind, williams and a wwe superstar Dolph Ziggler back in action. Juan, i will start with you. I am not the only boy on the panel. Kennedy but your one third of the man and three times the delicious lets talk about some of the people who did well. I thought that Julian Castro did very well. And you know most people did not know who he was so is confusing because as a brother. A twin kennedy yes, and public service. A congressman. Kennedy that is right. I think he was the breakout star in several levels. First this is very democratic audience. When he says something like, you know what, we have to do a better job on the border and it is not about criminalizing border crossing, he went after one of your favorites, beto orourke. And made it plain that he did not know what he was talking about. I mean if you really undress it. Kennedy which is good because theyre both democrats from texas paid the ultimate border state. I thought that was a breakup moment for him. And of course, people talk about this photo, the very sad votive child in a fire that died in the river and he was clear in saying, he was pissed off. And people wanted to know who was this guy so he was trending big time on social media. Kennedy and gabbard got a lot. People were trying to figure out who she is. Right. I think i still am trying to figure out who she is. I think the broader theme i saw last night was, it is a party that has moved so far to the left and ernie, by the way was not even up there. He is up there tonight. But i think there were some highlights but i think beto orourke evaded a question, and i wanted but in two languages. [laughter] on the tax rate. Kennedy before he was against it. That you have. 000 percent. We should get reparations. Kennedy we should deftly get a refund. I think gabbard trending, the russians might be behind that one. Kennedy she had a couple of symbols on Foreign Policy. Considering she is a very outspoken and laid out her Foreign Policy and noninterventionism and also military but i was happy to see bill de blasio not do well. But if he had every singer and every policy proposal just packs, no matter how he did, most of the media lives in new york and most new yorkers hate bill de blasio. So he wasnt going to get a good review from anyone. I think you did great heres why. Everyone, almost everyone had this low expectation. Especially for him. More than the people they do not even know on the stage which a lot of my friends did not know half of the people on the stage. Like bill de blasio, that guy . That is all they know. That guy and he was the guy that was supposed to be a partial but later that night he ruined it i think. How did he ruin it . He quoted i dont know the exact quote but now everyone went right back. Kennedy everyone was interrupting everyone. He had wanted to do okay in a couple of hours later instantly back to everybody mocking him. So i get that. Tulsi gabbard, what is your redline . She went you know, trump is getting us and i said oh i thought she was having a great night. Kennedy but that is a great question for an antiinterventionist. What will make you push the button . There has to be something the iranians or hezbollah attacking the u. S. On our soil . You have to have answers. And the big missed opportunity was the swing voters. They did not address, how are they going to do better than president trumps record. Kennedy it was the only time he had a good moment was tim ryan. And tim ryan and john delaney both did a good job of refocusing what they thought the question should be. And ryan said you know, you guys have completely forgotten about the working class which is true and then delaney smacked down rachel maddow, stop focusing on russia. Lets get back to healthcare, lets get back to the economy. But here is the thing. The problem for trump and the republican party, you come to an issue like healthcare which is the number one issue across the board, they do not have any answers kennedy no one does. Wait a second now, you have the congress, the house, senate for two years in the white house. Nothing so a lot of people say at least the democrats are throwing something out there. Im not sure its going to work. And today huge criticism of Elizabeth Warren for backing medicare for all. Because some people said you just opened the door to the republicans kennedy and later in the show i will talk about this with bill cassidy who has a vested interest in the outcome of all of these Public Health options. But i want to shift now, when they were not fighting over who can pander the most the latino voters Julian Castro and beto orourke were throwing down the gauntlet over immigration with castro taken affect everybodys favorite skateboarding beta male. Watch this. Hope to introduce legislation that would ensure we do not criminalize those who are seeking asylum and refuge if you are fleeing in desperation i want to make sure [multiple speakers] section 18, title 18 of the u. S. Code, title 21 and title 22 already cover [multiple speakers] if you did your homework on this issue kennedy all right, florida senator marco rubio was not impressed by the bidder back and forth. If the democrats being serious about think the border the need to put their money where their mouth is. They want to decriminalize crossing the border, their fighting is now providing more money to take care of people that are already here. They do not want to do anything about the laws of actually luring people here but they dont have answers how to fix it. They dont have answers how to fix it in english, not spanish. [laughter] kennedy the Republicanled Senate has 4. 6 billion bill today to adjust the migrant crisis on wednesday and after vowing not to support the House Speaker nancy pelosi signed off on it a revision that is been headed to the presence just ramp to sign. The commanderinchief would end his approval shortly before we went to air tonight. We finally reached a ceasefire and the border battle, if we have, what language will democrats be speaking on stage tonight . I will let you take that one, juan. The key here is we see the pictures we understand suffering of children. I just dont think those are American Values everyone says we have to do something. The problem has been that the president initially described what was going on as a caravan, and invasion peers of the democrats say we dont see an invasion, we dont see the crisis. Then of course he became a humanitarian crisis mistake obama did the same thing, he put kids no, those were unaccompanied minors pete seeger this pingpong that doesnt deal with the issue. Its almost beyond my role, i really please the democrats did something. Kennedy i have to and just resisting the president is not enough. Every dollar the coast immigration does not go to a border wall. And i do not think a wall, nothing putting troops on the border will solve families are desperate to get out of you know hell holes in south america, it will not stop people from trying to get in here. But decriminalizing illegal immigration will bring more of that. It will bring more of a monetary crisis more narcotics and drugs over the border. I think the zerotolerance policy has made people have a sense of urgency like you better get there. Is there something in the mail though with 100 percent of whatever man, come on in, the water is nice. And absolutely not, no one, we are slamming the door in a causes the desperate caravan of people coming in. There is a middle ground here. The problem is that democrats today, they have to be antitrump and antitrump policy every step of the way. Kennedy i think they can hurt themselves here. Will hurt them and 2020 for sure. Kennedy what it really is watching this is not the will in texas not like ted cruz, texas politicians despise each other. [laughter] and Julian Castro is waiting for beto orourke to Say Something dumb so he could jump on him with title 19 and title 22. He is almost looking at the way cory booker was in the mean this morning while speaking spanish. And that issue is very much like families, whether republicans and democrats want to be in the middle or not if no one has a stake, said families do that too. Just to hear talk of all kind of think the exact same way. We can all meet somewhere, you cannot just have a revolving door you meet somewhere and everyone things are giving up power. They talk of compromise and zero people do it because i think it will make them look weak. And you have to resist trump but you also want to help the crisis on the board but if you do it while trump is in office you might look like you had helped him make a good thing happen. Everyone has to take a step back. And they are calling this a manufactured crisis, that is not helping. Kennedy and also goes to show yet to be able to assess the situation and anticipate you will get a lot of people. You know it happens in cycles. Especially with immigration. And if youre going to get a big influx you have to take care of people. I mean i think the president presented this as a crisis in a way that is not in keeping with what we really see. He shut down the government at one point, he was sending troops to the border. Again, these are families, these are not terrorists trying to cross the border and it will come in, these are desperate people. I think that is the reality. Kennedy i still feel the government has not done a good job of figuring out who the families are and who the awful people are renting at the children and people paying money to cross with those children. Fine but i just do not think it is Alliance Share of the issue we are dealing with. Kennedy i do not think so either but i still do not trust that the government has figured out the system. Republican or democrat kennedy no one will stay handled as hot potato. And the president did incorrectly say, all of these drug dealers are coming across. If he had ordered it slightly different and said theres a crisis with all of these Different Things here, lets one thing he has done very successfully, he has used unconventional approaches to problems both republicans and democrats have not fixed. For example, the threat of tariffs on mexico. He has got mexico to do more than the democrats. Kennedy we will talk about the tariffs with china because we dont know if that one is working. There are still quite a few variables. We have to see how it works. Kennedy the waiter has not returned with the food so [multiple speakers] we absolutely do, with a shot of tequila thank you so much jason [laughter] coming up, Supreme Court dealing a blow to the present blocking his plan to include a question about citizenship on the 2020 census per the president not going down without a fight. When he get what he wants . I will ask an attorney next. 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Kennedy the Supreme Court closed out his term with two highly anticipated decisions today. One is a big win for the gop another potential blow to president trump. The justices ruling that federal courts should not have a role in resolving partisan gerrymandering claims meaning no stopping state legislators from drawing electoral math to their advantage, republicans will control most statehouses, they love this and the second case they shut down the trumpet menstruation reasoning for adding a Citizenship Question to the 2020 census. Prompting the president to threaten to delay the constitutionally mandated headcount, but decisions affect how voters will be represented in a 2020 election. So how will these rulings impact which party holds the levers of power . Joining the attorney and coauthor of the federalist society, how conservatives took the law back from liberals, Danielle Mclachlan is here. Hi kennedy lets talk about gerrymandering a little because there was a lot more emotion from the decision than i originally thought. Having spent my adult life in california, the whole state is gerrymandered to democrats. Right in the case involves two different cases, one in maryland and one in North Carolina and basically we have democrats in maryland who created their own advantage. Kind of a little bit one for the other. The real emotional thinking from justice kagan. She really saw this as the court educating its responsibility to make sure that our democracy is not torn apart. Her point was gerrymandering gop, legislators were taking over, holding a power in 22 states. The problem being, the way to get to this, the political question the court cannot get involved is through legislative. Of course if your gerrymandered out of power, kennedy which wasnt every republican congressperson in california. Absolutely in some respects, it is better that the court does not weigh into this because robert said how much is too gerrymandered . He says there is no test, with no power kennedy they do not have to go over every single issue in every crisis. And they punted it back to the state. But can the state Supreme Court now decide and do their judgments, is that now the official precedent . That is exactly it. And what roberts did kennedy he said it and im wondering if he is the new one thing interesting is that the absence wasnt felt in either of these. Kennedy he loves the power, doesnt he . I think he is an institutionalist. Kennedy he is the swing voter. While the balance of the court remains as it is. And we see this with president s of think theyre getting aconservative and end up not being. It will be interesting because it is a young chief justice that will be there for a long time. I think they are very much single step out of the political fray. It is very important. Kennedy lets talk a little about the census question because Clarence Thomas was very upset about this. And he wrote in his dissent, not of the quarters opened up the avenue of attack, permissive executive actions have strong incentive to craft narratives that would derail them. And basically, what he is saying that the court questioned the intent of putting that question on the census. Right. Kennedy you can question the intent of any federal agency and that gives a lot of ammunition to people who do not like the epa sure. And this is a slightly obscure statute of the administered procedures act. General agency actions, actions of you know, the executive, a huge event of discretion. Kennedy is not included in chevron deference . You exactly right. Unless you are arbitrary or doing something clearly unlawful. The agencies can do pretty much whatever they want. There was an unusual amount of evidence actually introduced in the lower court showing that actually he wanted to come in and it was something really on the Trump Administration right from the get go. They put forth the rationale is being tied up at the concern about diluting the votes of minorities. Kennedy and the, they show that this is really put on there to silence people because if they see a question like that they will not fill out the rest of the census. Therefore they will be underrepresented. Yes and they say, so this means a portion of funds, congressional seats and when you have mixed households as many immigrant hassles are if you are five Illegal Immigrants and one illegal immigrant you will not count the people kennedy they do not want that. Interesting we will see where this one goes. 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