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Transcripts For FBC Cavuto Coast To Coast 20180215

Washington, d. C. , give police the power, if they see something on social media, if they see graphic pictures of rifles and blood, and gore and guns and bombs, if they see something horrific language, if they see person talking about i want to grow up to be a serial killer, we need to have the power to take that person, to bring them before Mental Health professionals, at that particular time involuntarily, have them examined. People will be rightfully so concerned about their rights, as am i, but what about the rights of these students . Neil there is the president of the United States. He had his own message for victims. Blake burman at the white house with more on that. Hey, blake. Reporter i covered scott israel in miami, interviewed him when he was running for sheriff. What you get is out of the Broward County sheriff, and nation is seeing that today. Shortly after he spoke the president spoke at the white house. President trump had a message for americas children, saying you should not feel alone. You are not alone. You should feel protected. There are people who you can talk to. There are people who you should go to talk to. The president also addressed very briefly what he feels needs to happen to change the tide of what seems to be one mass shooting after another. The president never mentioned the word gun. Instead he talked about the need to address Mental Health. We are committed to working with state and local leaders to help secure our schools and tackle the difficulty issue of Mental Health. Reporter top democrat in the house nancy pelosi took a much different stance earlier this morning, she would rather get something accomplished legislatively as it relates to gun safety than win the upcoming election. Attorney general Jeff Sessions focusing on the need to enforce the current laws on the books. It is not good if we have got gun laws that say criminals cant carry guns and they never get enforced. So we intend to force our laws. If anything, the recent events have caused us to know we need to do even more. Reporter in this case as you know, neil, the killer, the shooter, acquired this ar15 legally. As for President Trump and his schedule going forward, he was expected to be in orlando tomorrow for a infrastructure event. That has since been canceled. As you heard from the president himself earlier this morning he is planning to go to parkland at some point here in the future. Neil. Neil i caught governor rick scott saying something at that same presser those that are mentally ill should not have access to a gun. It was the furthest ive seen him go in that regard. What about the president . Reporter furthest i have seen rick scott go as well. Keep in mind it is Republican Legislature in florida. Rick scott is widely considering, widely rumored to run for the senate in 2018. He is termlimited here. As for the president , keep in mind, neil, they have not answered questions yet on las vegas, on the shooting that happened 130 days ago. They say now is not the time to address Something Like this. They havent come out with a defined stance as far as i can remember. But as you heard from the president there, they clearly feel there is a Mental Health issue that needs to be addressed in this country. Neil thank you very much. Blake burman on the latest on that. The president outlined he wants to go to florida. They havent fixed a time on that. To everything that you read about after the fact nicolas cruz was a powderkeg. How to address powderkegs before they blow . We have paul violis who joins us. Security brief host. Paul, you and i chat after something horrific like this. We piece together signs of trouble. We piece together, you know, signs of discord, all of that. And here, maybe on social media as well in the case of cruz. What do you do . Well you know what, neil . The most telling thing about this, ive been working School Violence shootings since the mid 80s, the behaviorial profile is exactly same as what it was then. Nothing has changed. The only thing that hasnt changed were not doing anything about it. He spoke about it to people and spoke about it on social media. The level of predictability is frightening. We need to keep our eye on the ball, telling people, not just if you see something, Say Something, and what is something. These certain behaviors will in fact lead to this type of incident. Neil when he was on social media the reference you made to a youtube posting, i am going to be a professional school shooter. At first we didnt know the source of the comment. We do know his name t was picked up by someone who caught that, and alerted officials. In fact alerted the fbi. How does that get dropped . What happens . I have, you know what, neil . Thats a great question, i dont know how that gets dropped. There is gross disparity when people make threats, someone can say you are going to die, everyone is going to die, but to make a Statement Like that myopically focused on intentionally taking life i simply cant see how the ball got dropped in that area. I simply can not. Neil i could see if it was an alias or using a different name t was his name. He was holding up a flare. Neil they can check on that. His behavior when he got kicked out of this high school. He was angry. A lot of kids there even predicted apparently he might return. Right. Neil furthermore that he was disgruntled, angry, a little scary. Now there are many who fit that kind of definition. I understand its a needle in a haystack deal but, the sheriff seemed to intimate it was matter of resources. We need more Law Enforcement. We need more sheriffs on site, deputies on site, there was one at this very large school, but nowhere near the shooter at the time cruz came to the school. What do you make of all that . That it is matter of more weaponry, more people, more agents, that sort of thing . Well, neil, lets just break that down real quickly. I really dont agree with that. The reason why i dont agree with the sheriff in that particular regard if you look at the sheer size of the particular campus, or most high school campuses, if you have one School Resource officer or one Armed Security guard, that will not do anything to preemptively mitigate the incident yesterday unless the person walks in the direction of that person. What we really need to focus on are two thins. One, investing in the reality of security at schools, not the illusion of security at schools. And two, we need to embrace the fact that this is avoidable. That we have to teach students and teachers about not just who this particular person is, which youre right, many people share those characteristics that actions and behaviors they put in motion that tells us in Law Enforcement this is a high probability incident right here. Those are the things we need to arm our students and teachers with, so they preemptively mitigate with validity and liability Law Enforcement so they can do their job. That i truly believe is the answer to this. Neil wellput, paul. Very good seeing you. This area doesnt necessarily fit the classic definition where you will have violence at a high school or violence at a middle school or violence period. In fact this different fit a lot of typical definitions this is us, america. Senator marco rubio pointed that out earlier. Parkland, by the way is one the of the safest communities in america. It is a place people move to get away from this i say youre not going to get likely to get mugged there, or carjacked there or home likely to be broken into there. It is very safe community. It can happen anywhere. It takes one person in the wrong circumstances. Neil this Community Last year was considered the safest in the United States. To psychologist robi ludwig, that we can learn on that. We shouldnt generalize. We shouldnt generalize. I agree with everything that paul said. We needed indicators teaching not only other teachers, but students, what the signs are because the difference between these young kids murdering other kids and adults and adult murders, kids leak. They share information. They brag about it in some cases. Theyre telling other kids they like the idea of killing people. Theyre sharing it on social media. They might even be revealing it in the work that they produce, so teachers need to keep an eye out. Neil if you did for every kid with a questionable comment or drawing or runin in a teacher or administrator you would have a lot of kids lined up. You might. Put all the factors together so better safe than sorry. We want to encourage kid to Say Something if they see something and what to look for. Is there a kid saying there is a dday . Theyre planning to come back and it is going to be dangerous . Are they stockpiling weapons that they have access to . Are they loners . How do they handle aggression. Neil what would you tell parents, doctor . One of the things, this was the case with the columbine killers and social media isnt at all what it is today, where they were piling up weapons. They were getting more and more stuff. People knew about it. Now of course, it is all over the internet when Something Like this goes. If you know about it, what do you tell kids who are privy to this, their parents who want to be privy to this . Say something. My daughter is very disturbed by this she is in high school, she said, you know, there is this kid at the school who kind of remind me of the shooter in some ways. I said you have to Say Something. She said, i dent want to say that he is going to do something. I said that is not your job. Your job is to observe and Say Something. So i said something. Have a Good Relationship with your kids. Encourage them to talk to you. Be willing to share that information. Neil theyre afraid of sounding like tattletales. They are. They need to be reeducated, listen, you as student, you as peers may be the first to hear this information, through bragging, through social media, we dont even know about, neil. Because were a different generation. Neil right, right. My daughter was seeing things on snapchat so violent from School Shootings that they havent even put it on tv. Our kids have access to information. They need to be given permission and told what to do with that information. Neil you know, so many kids today, their lives are online. Their emotions are played out online. Thats right. Neil theyre back and forth. Their interchanges are online. Then there is privacy advocates are going to say, they have reason to be shielded from policing online. Where is that line then . You know, i think what paul said, instead of the illusion of safety, we have to understand there are terrorists within our own school system. We have to do something about it. So, yes, youre entitled to privacy if youre not endangering anybody else. If there is question about that, or a kid identifies with killers and School Shooters and likes the idea of doing it themselves, then that need to be reported. Neil all right. To that end, the marco rubio on floor of the United States now talking about what if anything republicans in particular would get behind now to make sure Something Like this doesnt happen again. Lets listen in. Its a tough issue. It is part of the reason why it is so hard to prevent these is because if someone decides that they are going to take it upon themselves to kill people, whether its a political fascination of one person, or the mass killing of many, if one person decides to do it and theyre committed to that task it is a very difficult thing to stop. That that again, does not mean that we should not try to prevent as many of them as we can. Perhaps the answer in how to prevent them begins asking ourselves, what do these things have in common . They have two things in common of the first every single one of them was premeditated and planned. None of these shootings were act of passion, someone got up in the morning and was upset and decided to do something out of rain. They all involved careful planning and premeditation. They took deliberate steps to get the guns and ammunition they needed. In many cases they carefully studied the outline of the target which they were going after. They specifically planned soft targets. There is evidence of that in this case. And they planned to maximize the loss of life. They acquired the weapon that they needed, and, they used tactics that they needed to kill as many people as they could. By the way, because of that premeditation and planning is one of the reasons why these flaws that have been proposed wouldnt have prevented them. Because when someone is planning and premeditating an attack they will figure out a way to those laws or quite frankly to comply with them in order to get around it. That may be a argument for new laws of a different kind but it is what makes it hard, though not impossible. The second thing they have in common almost all of these attacks were preceded by clear signs of what was to come a cursory review of all the recent cases point that out. We all remember the loss of 20 people at a church. This is the case of a person said that he tried to killer. This person was arrested an convicted for domestic violence, unfortunately not reported to the back groaned check. A person left a Mental Health facility, caught taking guns on a air force base. He had special media posts buying dogs to shoot them and actually expressed admiration for the South Carolina killer in that Church Killing a few years ago. An individual was actually charged with animal mistreatment a few years earlier. And sandy hook we know the killer had a spreadsheet with details of the previous School Shootings. It was also an individual whose mental state was rapidly deteriorating to the point where he spoke to no one but his mother who he ultimately killed before carrying out the horrific massacre but someone who was isolated in their room all day largely playing video games. And the pulse attack which was precip it at thatted and inspired by adherence to jihadist ideology, as senator nelson pointed out this individual not once, but twice been on the radar screen of the fbi, both times was cleared. They interviewed him. They asked him question. He didnt meet the standard for staying on the list and he came off. Were still learning facts about yesterdays killer. Unlike these others we may learn more because he was apprehended alive and authorities have had an opportunity to question him and that will continue. But heres what we know. We know he was exfelled from school for behavior that the administrators thought was dangerous. We know that from press accounts now both teachers and students did not act surprised that he was the assailant. In fact many of them said that there was a running joke, obviously not a joke anymore, that one day he would do Something Like this. We know that the media and others have discovered social media posts which are in hindsight deeply disturbing as they point to glorification of gun violence and murder and animal cruelty even apparently. We saw reports this morning of a post on youtube a year ago where he posted that he wanted to be a school shooter. This was alerted to the fbi, who followed up by the way in an interview with that person who alerted them. They all have this premeditation in common and we sit here in hindsight see all of these little points and say, taken together those are warning signs. The problem is, theyre not taken together. The people who might have known about him being expelled may have not known about the social media posts. The people who knew about the social media posts may not have known about what he wrote on youtube. The people who knew about the youtube may not know the fact that police were called for several different times and reasons and so forth. So americans the challenge why it so hard to find something that works. There are a lot of proposals. I hair them and i heard them before and i hear them today and im not diminishing them. Because it wont work i dont want to hear your argument i understand, i really do. They used a certain kind of gun, make it harder to get those kinds of guns. I dont have some sort of defacto religious objection to that or some idealogical commitment to that per se. There are all kind of guns that are outlawed and weaponry that is outlawed or special categories. The problem we did that once. It didnt work for a lot of reasons. The one is there are millions in the street. Those things, they last 100 years. And so you could pass a law that makes it hard to get this kind of gun in new condition but youre going to struggle to keep it out of the hand of someone who decided that is what they want to use because there are so many out there already that are grandfathered in. Neil we are monitoring this. Senator kuhn rob saying senator marco rubio saying there are no easy solutions hire. A lot of for example, republicans not eager to address gun control issues or even reining in guns period. A lot of democrats against republicans criticisms that a lot of this is inspired by violence in movies and videogames. You might add treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin to this. In what otherwise was a discussion about the budget speaking before the house ways and Means Committee the treasury secretary added something rather interesting saying personally i think gun violence it is a tragedy what we saw yesterday. I urge congress to look at these issues. Speaking before the house ways and Means Committee, when this issue came up about what if anything the administration, or anyone else for that matter can do on this. You already heard earlier today from the Broward County sheriff who said that we have to reassess the risks that are out there and

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