Investigating collusion between the russians and the trump campaign, but it seems to be circling the president ial noose around obstruction of justice. The mueller camp wants to give the president just enough rope to hang himself. The other train is full of republicans railroading the damaged fbi. You have the memo which reports that the investigators lied to a federal judge to get a fisa warrant. There may be enough in those papers to derail the fbi and any other agency that spies on americans in the dark. And the string pullers may have affected the outcome of the hillary are investigation and those are only the texts we know about that allude to a secret society. And the truth there was nothing to the russia investigation in the first place. Whats most of problematic for the bureau is the unknown pinless grenades in the unreleased memo and Robert Mueller cant be as canned for cleaning up the agency he used to run. At some point these trains will crash and it will be loud and messy. If they would only out up and let us see the embarrassing facts at hand we could have avoided a manufactured constitutional crisis. Glad you are here, im kennedy. The investigation has more story lines than a novella. But which part is actually the most of troubling. The missing text, the fisa memo, the gop piling on the fbi . Lets go to my battle hardened party pant for some answers. Former miss america Kristen Haglund is here and matt welch and superior director at bustle. Com jessica tarlov. So much to discuss and dissect. I think there is weirdness all around. What do you think is most of problematic when you think of these two trains. Where do the American People place their confidence and trust. Government only operates based on the trust of the people. You have a government undermined by the mueller probe, and you have Law Enforcement fbi and doj undermined by the gop. Kennedy there are too many people hiding facts. You hit the nail on the head in the opening monologue about the need for transparency. At the end of the day, Robert Mueller is in his camp. He has got russia probe. As soon as the administration can get that out of the way they should start dealing with the fbi. Kennedy matt, i dont think mueller needs to be fired. If there is something so disconcerting that it really undermines the fundamental Intelligence System in this country, we need to know what that is. Is it the abuses we heard about since the Edward Snowden revelations . What is most of troubling for you . To follow up on your question. I dont want to just see the memo. I want to see the underlying intelligence its based on. I have heard a lot of descriptions from a lot of republicans. Republicans are calling it worse than watergate which at some point starts to be highe stae hypehieb hoper bowlic slush. Its getting close to being finished. The fact that trump is ready to negotiate his questioning which he would be totally stupid to do. We are going the see some kind of fruition of this. That leads to a question of what happens if its just an obstruction of justice charge well be in for a political fight. Kennedy if something serious happened here, thats why you have special counsel. Thats fine. I think they are not mutually exclusive. And you have a lot of weirdness at the fbi. There are a lot of unanswered questions. They need to be answered. My question to you, if matt is right and its an obstruction of justice is job against the president , in a Democratic House of representatives, is he are comarnlgts of impeachment brought up . I dont think so. Kennedy in a Democratic House . The gravity of doing that and the repercussions. A president pence is so spch more frightening than a President Trump. Kennedy you hit the nail on the head. There are so many people on the left who are so disturbed by this president and what he may have possibly done in so many different realms. Whether its potential illegal dealing tore collusion with wrush. They dont with russia. It would be president pence who is far more conservative. And far more effective as a politician. The entire gop caucus likes mike pence. Kennedy there are some democrats who worked with him on the hill who like him as well. Based on policy preferences i cant imagine how likeable this person can be. But i understand he has some charm so that works in his favor. I dont think we should move ahead with articles of impeachment for that reason. Understanding that news week is wrong and we dont get Hillary Clinton out of this at the end of it. Kennedy this is where this level of politicization is head. In the next couple months the tenor only goes up and up and up. And a lot of stuff on the legislative agenda. A possible immigration deal. Who has the advantage and who has the most of leverage . It will be back and forth for the next 6, 7 months. Talking about pence and using that as a consideration undermines the argument against trump. If hes equally unfit and has done these terrible things. It doesnt matter what he thinks about gay people or mike pence. If hes violated the rule of law. The effect on the lives of americans, thats what you need to think. The policy implications for americans are so much graver under a president pence, and thats how i believe democrats would look at this. You dont impeach Richard Nixon because spiro agnew is vp instead of gerald ford . Kennedy we have so much more to discuss with the panel and well see them later. The russia investigation isnt distracting the president from his battles on capitol hill. He doubled down on his battle for the wall. He tweeted last night. If there is no wall, there is no daca. We must have safety and security, together with a strong military, for our great people. This after schumer took his previous offer for wall funding off the table. The thought was if we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support and the house and senate would get it done and it would be on the president s desk. He didnt do that. So well have to start on a new basis. And the wall offer is off the table. Kennedy so which side is going to cave in the white house or democrats . Joining me National Reviews jonah goldberg. Reporter its wonderful to be here. Kennedy at this point im more opposed to wall funding than Chuck Schumer. This is amazing to me that he admitted he went to the white house and threw wall funding at the altar of our president s feet and it was somehow rejected. What is happening here . Hes perfectly allowed to withdraw an offer. If you are negotiating with a car sales man and you make an offer and they dont accept it. And he calls you back next day and says ill take your offer, there is no Binding Authority in any of this. My own theory about whats going on. I believe it was on fox news sunday, Mick Mulvaney said Chuck Schumer did not actually offer to fund the wall. He offered to authorize the wall. Which is one of the most of wonky, detaily things in washington we could talk about. Schumer tried to pull a fast one on trump over the wall. He was trying to pressure the white house to cave, and the white house didnt, and schumer caused. Now hes trying to say i never really offered that. The base of the Democratic Party is losing its mind. And if Chuck Schumer gives donald trump a win, you will see the guys from media matters and move on, and all of these progressive groups like vietnamese mondays in vietnam pouring gasoline over their heads setting themselves on fire. I dont think seal see an immigration deal. I dont think well get funding for the wall. I think this will be obstructionism that we saw with republicans and obama. And trump will be faced with a decision which he could do of extending the daca stuff for a little while longer through executive order and that kicks the can down the road. Kennedy lets say republican fortunes turn and fade and democrats win the house. What happens to the immigration debate when you have potentially split chambers and the white house who has a variety of positions on immigration Border Security and the dreamers. I think dogs will be sleeping with cats. If you have to bet, the dems probably do take back the house. Then all bets are off. Certainly Chuck Schumer will be in a much better negotiating position. So i think its in his interest not to actually have a deal and force donald trump to start deporting these people which is bad optics for the republicans, or caving which is bad optics for the republicans. Meanwhile the white house will have much bigger problems than immigration because wet there is any truth to the russia collusion stuff, democrats day one are going to start like one of those old ticker tape parades just raining subpoenas down on the white house, the second they get the power to do so when they take over the house. And that will create all sorts of other pressures on the house and make 2018 look like a pillar of stable genius. Kennedy it does feel like we were so close. When you have Luis Gutierrez and the Senate Minority leader saying at some point in some regard they were in favor of trading a walkinglike thing for a daca agreement. And both sides seem to be swallowing their medicine and negotiating. It would have been smart to trade the wall for daca. If democrats take back the house in 2018, the wall still wont be built. The wall will take years to build no matter what form it takes. The democrats can come back later and say we have done enough of that. Kennedy the Eminent Domain issues that manifests in 2006 are still there. The ongoing fighting in syria is forcing america to take sides without a clear picture of who is our kennedy just when you thought things couldnt get more complicated in syria, yeah, it did. Its a textbook example of why we shouldnt have gone the involved. The civil war has been raging for 7 years, dozen of factions involved. U. S. Military stepped in to try to quash terrorist organizations like isis. But now turkey is attacking the kurds. So what do we do, abandon the kurd . Or fight our fake nato ally turkey . What are we doing there. Joining me, Lieutenant Colonel ralph peters. Its always great to speak with you, kennedy. Even on grim topics. Kennedy lets discuss this a little bit. We are now in a position where we cant attack turkey because they are a nato ally. And we cant help the kurds because turkey is attacking them. But the kurd helped us out so much. Why dont we just kick turkey out of nato . Thats a good question its a complicated process, but we can do it. We have long been aligned with turkey, but turkey has become a worse and worse ally. It has gone from frenemy to virtual enemy. Erdogan backs the Muslim Brotherhood internationally. He put tens of thousands of political opponents in jail. A clearcut situation. Turks bad, kurd, good, us, stupid. It was important to crush the caliphate. The boots on the ground. Kurd are the ones giving blood on the ground. But we have no clear longterm strategic goal in the area. And we dont understand after decades of failure we believe we can be the honest broker. Honest brokers dont exist in the midwest. You pick a side and stick with it. We have been allies with the kurd for 25 years. There are 40 to 50 million kurds. Nobody allows an accurate census in the region. We had a chance in 2003 to break up iraq. All these countries in this region. The borders were drawn by greedy europeans. If we want away from if we walk away from the kurds. What little shred of credibility we have in the region goats away. You dont abandon your allies. You dont do it on practical terms. It gives you a bad name. But also ethically. If someone has given blood for you, beside you. Kennedy they are the on ones who have been aligned with us over there. Its confusion and scary. You are right, we dont have a clear objective. Russia and iran know what they want over there. I dont see how of any that leads to the conclusion that we know what we want. Our greatest weakness in the middle east are the warm and fuzzy goals that barely squeak buy. In the middle east you better know what you want. You better go after it to get it. And you better know who are your friend and allies. Russians know what they want and they are getting it. Bashar alassad the butcher of syria knows what he wants and hes getting. We dont know what we want and our allies are getting shafted. Kennedy thats the deadliest position to be in when we dont know what we want and we are halfway committed to something. Could the end of civil Asset Forfeiture be at an end. Lawrence jones discusses the whole issue next. Thank you clients . Well jd power did just rank them highest in Investor Satisfaction with full Service Brokerage firms. Again. And online equity trades are only 4. 95. I mean you cant have low cost and be full service. Its impossible. Its like having your cake and eating it too. Ask your broker if they offer awardwinning full service and low costs. How am i going to explain this . If you dont like their answer, ask again at schwab. Schwab, a modern approach to wealth management. Stay at la quinta. Where were changing with stylish makeovers. Then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level. Bravo, tall meeting man. Start winning today. Book now at lq. Com you or joints. Something for your heart. Start winning today. 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Are we finally look at the undoing of civil Asset Forfeiture . Lawrence jones, from blaze tv. I loved your intro. You take a shot at Jeff Sessions. As you know, he hates getting a criminal conviction before you steal someones property. Kennedy he says its one of the most of powerful tools Law Enforcement has. If you get pulled over for a Traffic Violation and you have got some cash in your car you look like a drug dealer. So the cops take it. If you dont have a lot of money, you cant afford to appeal that taking and get your money back. We have seen that with cash and house and cars. Whats going on in alabama and what effect might this have on the overall conversation. When people see Asset Forfeitures, they go to drugs. If you are an elderly person in the audience and you believe in keeping more cash. We have thanked elderly people from new mexico who have had their money saved so they can pay in cash. They dont want to deposit their money. They are following the lead of new mexico and trying to get Law Enforcement officers to follow the law. Get a criminal conviction before you take someones property. Follow the law and get a criminal conviction before they seize someones property. Kennedy you should have a conviction. If someone is a criminal, thats a different story. But this is such a violation of the fourth amendment. Its scary that we have the rail against an attorney general house so wrong on this issue. So if this does pass in alabama. Do you think it a. G. Will try toy tinker with it on the federal level . Most of definitely. I think this a. G. Web also says he respects the constitution. Im not sure this is a constitutional fight he will win. But i do think he will block this. He railed against this saying this somehow is how he supports Law Enforcement. And its quite to the contrary. This encourages lazy police work. We know they dont do the real investigation. Some lot of these cases that were take without due process, we found out they were innocent and they still didnt get their property back. I dont understand how Jeff Sessions made the comparison. For them to say that money is Funding Police officers salaries. Kennedy no unconstitutional double dipping its not right. You are awesome. Thanks for being here. There has been plenty interparty fighting on the right since President Trump took office. But senator schumer is under attack by if he slow democrats. They were furious that schumer took senator mcconnells word that he would bring up daca in the next spending bill. Bernie sanders, elizabeth warn, kamala harris, all voted against the spending deal. Tax cuts, which schumer and his cohorts roundly oppose. It turns out americans like more money in their pockets. Isnt that weird . Can schumer maintain the support of his party and steer them to victory in 2018 . Schumer is seen as the biggest loser. How does that help people hopefully running for office in 2020. You will see a shift of people speak out against the leadership. We saw that in a special election, connor lamb, a real up and comer saying he doesnt want nancy pelosi to be the leader of the party any more. What schumer did do which was smart is he said to our blue senators in r