Disappointment. Congressman trey goudie creating concernin concerning a, declae does not see enough evidence for a special count sell to investigate clinton corruption. Roy moores attorney today fires back against the Sexual Misconduct accusations began his client. Goudie saying, not enough has been presented for a special counsel. I dont think that threshold has been met for the appointment of a special counsel, you can investigate something without special counsel. 99. 9 of all investigations in this country are done by the women and men at department of justice and u. S. Attorneys offices, and none of them is called special counsel. So there is a threshold that has to be met. And i dont think it has been. Lou trey goudie, our first guest said that congress is incapable of handling the clinton criminality, and Justice Department is paralyzed. Chris ferrel, good to see you, i have to say, i was taken aback when trey goudie, a former federal prosecutor. Made those statements. Your reaction . I tend to agree with him. I am a former federal law officer, there are all sorts of complex criminal activity whether racketeering or transnational criminal organizations, they are investigated every day, by u. S. Attorneys, and by other federal Law Enforcement officers. It brings successful prosecutions, and Clinton Foundation, in all clinton activity, over the last 27something years, nobody is more familiar with them than Judicial Watch, a competent, hard nosed, tough prosecutor, can bring that case. When you go to special counsel land, it own weird existence. You know you get weirdness. Lou like Robert Mueller. Exactly. That is not necessary. It automatically becomes a political football with all kinds of fingerpointing and hysteria. Lou let me be candid with you. I am looking as well at a Justice Department that i think you agree, is paralyzed. Yeah. Lou incapable of making a discreet decision at top without any kind of electrical political storm around it occurring immediately. They have not, this Justice Department has been so politicized under president obama, i dont know how you wade 3 it through it. And Trump Administration has been unsuccessful in removing obama hold offers, in replacing prosecutors and investigators bee the president , in that department. How do you get around that other than a special counsel . I think first thing is attorney general sessions should consider resigning. He is a wonderful man, he is a man of integrity, but he has been neutralized, he is unable to lead the department effectively. Lou i concur. In the interest of Justice Department and Trump Administration, i think the handwriting is on the wall, the best thing to do is step away, give the president an opportunity to appoint a new attorney general. We need grand juries and indictments. I agree. Lou my problem and i think problem for this government, and this administration is we need also a countervailing, if you succeed in asking in having Jeff Sessions actually resign as attorney general, if you were to succeed as well in getting Robert Mueller out of special counsel role, i would be doubley happy. But the fact of matter is, i see no sign to mueller will acquiesce or that Jeff Sessions will. I am looking for a countervailing force to that much special counsel mueller, this is madness. This man is making it clear he is figur going to spend whateven money it takes without any evidence to continue to harass, plague and obstruct this administration and interfere in the legitimate operation of this administration. You are correct. Weve seen further evidence from Senate Intelligence committer committee. They said they have been looking for 9 months, and found nothing, now were really going to look. And muler in the same boat. They are trying to find out how much Paul Manafort spent on his suitsnd sehow crinalizing that, they a desperate, desperate people do desperate things. Mr. Mueller, i think when tally added up, they spent god knows how many millions of dollars, there is a tendency to find a scalp to justify it. That is where we get in trouble. We have at all costs avoid another special count counsel. Lou i take your point, and understand your position and of that congressman goudie. If we could bring two eventualities to pass, first Jeff Sessions resigns, and mueller resigns, there is at least prospect of peace in the land. But until then, we have criminal enterprise in the Clinton Foundation and the way in which corruption has just followed the clintons throughout their careers and lives. There is no consequence. At some point this country las it fine a way to hold high place elected officials accountable for their transgressions or give her a clean bill of health if that is the result of the investigation. But when people look at face of this, it is in and of itself, it stinks to high heaven. No one can explain to my satisfaction to this point, thousand 143 million was placed to Clinton Foundation for the out of noble inspiration of the person who wrote the check. The Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise, period it needs to be invest graded and taken apartment audited forensically. All sorts of criminality, it is a Money Laundering operation in my opinion. Given this expa th that and clie leveraged their political offices, for years and years. There was no daylight between Clinton Foundation, and secretary of state Hillary Clinton. We know that because we have thanks to Judicial Watch litigation, we have the emails. Ordering uma abedin so set up meetings for mrs. Clinton, there is no daylight between the two of them. You talk about paytoplay, and leverages government was on the for personal benefit, that is very definition of corruption. Corruption. Lou turning to the administration. Trump administration, what is it to do here . President has voiced his frustration with Jeff Sessions, and clear about that. He fired an fbi director in my opinion, there is no doubt what so ever who deserved to be fired in the interest of the country had to be fired,. Fired. Yes. Lou here we are paralyzed at Justice Department, you mention senator burr and warner. This is ignorance come ponded with corruption compounded with paralysis, this government has to move forward in the national interest. What is the president , his damage t dodge to do. All these scheduled c obama appointees, who are still currently occupying offices, and they are doing so across the spectrum, right . Not must just, justice it state department, hud, their resignations need to be accepted, they should be told, thank you, and goodbye. There are ample folks that i believe who are schedule c appointees who are supporters of Current Administration that do not require senate approval, lower ranking folks who need too be put in place at of march, months ago. Lou a matter of some urgency, now. Yes, there is no further time for delay. If you are a schedule c obama person, your last day is the end of the month, than thank you vey much. And a full court press to put people who support Current Administration. Lou why is Trump Administration not doing that. Part is what you have referred to so many times, swamp, they rely on these people who know various levers offing or oracle anoregon ans of the sy know how to work the system they rely on them, these people are not well served. The president is not well served. By people who spay one thing in a meeting then walk out in hallway, then Say Something else. Lou chris ferrel, Judicial Watch, thank you. Thank you. Lou were coming right back, there is a lot more to this story, and many other stories, well have them for you next. Stay with us. On issue of a Second Special counsel to investigate clinton corruption, it is now a cage match between congressman jim jordan and congressman trey goudie, one in favor, one opposed. It needs to be any everything, including mr. Comeys handling. I did not sign the letter, i dont think that threshold has been met, i think in important, you can investigate something without special counsel. Lou we take up need for attorney general Jeff Sessions to do his duty with former doj official tom dupree. Well have full report from capitol hill, well be right back in just a moment. Back in just a moment. Afterrrrr my business was going nowhere. So i built this kickin new website with godaddy. 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I was going to say that is true, there is a new sheriff in town, Jeff Sessions will look at evidence in a responsible way and make that determination himself. Lou he has this three and a half months to respond to a letter from the judiciaryy committee, seeks answers from what in the heck he is doing, three and a half months, he has been there almost 10 months, nothing has happened. At what point do you say, mr. Attorney general, it is time to light a damn fire, and every monu waste is a month in which perpetrators have to wipe away the evidence of their crimes. Well, i can tell new world of criminal justice, a lot of time wheels of justice turn slowly. Not as fast as we like. Lou i am telling you as a citizen, i dont care how tough it is get off their duffs and come to conclusions. We still have not seen report from benghazi or fast and furious. Weve seen a attorney general, first time in history, cited for contempt by congress. Tom, you know that swamp is consumer people whole, it has to stop. I think that attorney general has done something start. He has assigned this decision on whether Second Special counsel is needed to look at by career prosecutor, that is smart, if they find there served that war warrant further prosecution. Lou you are one of the smartest attorneys i know, the fact of matter is that rod rosen stein, is compromises in every way from sunday. He was involved in the investigation of uranium one, he and Robert Mueller special counsel, it was a contrivance and you know it. On form of comey to creates special counsel and hu put his d buddy, mueller there. Men with integrity would never allow themselves to be named to begin with. We have to part ways on rod. Lou part ways, i have not called him an sob or anything, i said he has been compromised. My point is he cannot be impartial. I am confident he will recuse himself, these people are not looking. Lou they recuse themselves based on personal and professional relationships between Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller, tom. I think that at the end of the day if Rod Rosenstein finds himself in a position, he makes decision in a matter he had personal involvement, i think he would recuse himself. I dont think they are looking for conflicts of interest. I think it easier to be out of political line of fire, that happened with Jeff Sessions when he recused himself from russia. Lou from a whole and at same time, before the same committee, he basically was sort of snorting dismissively at idea high was leader of a he was the leader of a campaign, he was not really involved. Honorific. But reality as we know, was he was hardly involved. I think if it tern turns out people say will move session to board that would give president an opportunity to start fresh, get someone in Justice Department who would not be recused from russia investigation, that would bring special counsel investigation back under the administrations control. Lou that would be a good thing, what do you think . I think that bob mueller is handling this in a responsible manner, i know have you a different view. Lou i do. I know you do. My view is mueller moving. I dont think he will be done any time soon, we have seen chapter one. Lou who the hell gave him the right to justed investigate, and investigate until he trips over an empty cannot dark there is more evidence of collusion and corruption against Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation alone, than there there is no evidence what so ever of collusion between the russians and Trump Campaign to date. I mean that is the fact, can we okay agree on those facts, a narrow set. I could agree with you tos large extent. I think that regulation, that exist, gives special counsel broad dis discretion to look at what they want. It is that generality that is given rise to things in the past like the iran contra investigation, that been it seemed for 20 years, whitewater, brought in beyond original view. Lou you are arguing, making my point, this is a government out of control. That is now special counsel is in charge of this government, that is last damn thing most americans want. Tom, how do we resolve it . Well, i guess one thing is, cautious about appointing other special counsels. Lou that great, i will make a note of it in my history book, tom dupree. Thank you. Lou vote in tonights poll, do you believe that doj is reluctance to examine the exin clinton corruption. Cast your vote on twitter. Follow me on twitter, like my on facebook, follow me on instagram. And breaking news, get ready, this is an amazing story, nfl escalating its attacks on cowboy owner jerry jones, league sending a letter to jones attorney, accusing the cowboy owner of trying to sabotage the contract negotiations with rodger goodell. And calling his conduct quote, detriment at to thdetrimental tt interest. Says who . Says rodger goodell, now well find out what jerry jones, amongst view with courage to to take on madness of the leadership in the nfl. Volume on big board 3. 5 billion shares, target shares plunging 10 , offering a disappointing outlook for holiday season, retail sales rose in october. Reminder to listen to my report, three times a day coast to coast on salem radio network. Up next, the republican tax cut plan, facing new opposition. From some republicans. Can the g. O. P. Ever, ever pass tax reform . Will or will Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan get back to the swamp . Well find out, well have a full report ahead. Stay with us. Lou President Trumps push for tax reform, tax cuts being met by object trucks by congress. Imagine that. House republicans set to vote on their tax bill tomorrow while republicans in the Senate Already facing setbacks on their tax reform legislation. Mike emanuel brings us right up to date. Reporter republican senator ron johnson says hes a no. He says it favors corporations over individuals. Getting our tax rates down helps us raise wages. Reporter Speaker Paul Ryan is selling tax reform in a web video ahead of a critical vote in the house tomorrow. When we look at it line by line the vast majority of everybody will see a tax cut and it will be a longterm effect for everyone. They throw a scrap to the middle class, provide a banquet for the wealthy and corporate america. Transform america in doing so, well not let that happen. Kill the bill. Reporter orrin hatch rolled out changes to its plan including use 380 million from obamacare individual mandate repeal. Increase the child credit to 2,000. Drop the rates 22 , 24 and 32 . The Corporate Tax lowered from 35 to 20 would be permanent. No deduction would be allowed for any settlement, payout as a result of sexual abuse if