Bernard kerik is on the ground, Running Police department for new york city after 9 11. The suspect yelled allahu akbar after he exited the vehicle avraming a school bus. Bernard, what is your reaction on what is going on in Lower Manhattan . Liz, unfortunate [inaudible] that these things are happening. They happen in europe. Theyre escalating this is [inaudible]. Right out of the al qaeda and isis training manuals. That is the world we live in. Liz again the suspect yelled out allahu akbar when he exited the vehicle. This also happened near a school, Stuyvesant High School in Downtown Manhattan. The scene were looking at, live shots what is going on in hower manhattan in new york city. This is near the World Trade Center this is halloween. This is a day when people and families getting together. We have the halloween parade. The city is in lockdown in Lower Manhattan. Bernard, what will happen tonight as we move into the evening hours . Well, as as a result of this, the naturally the nypd and fbi will escalate their alert status. They will make sure soft targets are covered the best they can. They will have extra resources in the streets, which they already do for halloween anyway. You know, as bad as it is as tragic as it is, keep in mind it could have been worse. If this guy pulled a stunt like this at rockefeller center, ran into 50 or 60 people, instead of a couple of groups here or there, the casualty list would be of bigger. This is terrible and sad, something we have to deal with. I think it would be much worse if he was in a different area of the city. Liz bernard, lets back up. This is being treated as a terrorist incident. And the, the thinking among intelligence officials is, this is, could be called a form of micro terrorism where you get these lone wolves with limited access to explosives or training, they dont need a lot of training. Theyre seth ising with anger seething with anger and easy to get into a car and plow into innocent civilians. Go ahead. This we talk about all the time this comes out of training manuals for al qaeda and isis, weapons if you cant get firearms or explosives, use knives. If you cant get knives, use a vehicle. The bigger vehicle, more damage, the heavier vehicle more damage. This stuff is actually in their books. And people that are radicalized, whether through the internet, social media, this is what theyre reading. So, thats probably where a lot of this comes from. And came from in this case. Liz you know, were 12 minutes away from a new York City Press conference on this terror attack. That is what the fbi now is calling it, treating it as deliberate terror attack. Sir, we are looking at vehicle attacks, and we just checked it since the early 80s. There were 40 vehicle attacks. 80 of terrorist vehicleramming attacks happened within the last 10 years. They are ratcheting it up dramatically. What is going on . What is going on especially in the states and europe, they dont have access to weapons. They dont have access to explosives. Not like they have access to this stuff in afghanistan or iraq or syria. Here they have to look for different types of weapons, and vehicle, the vehicleborn weapon is one they can use. So youre going to see stuff like this continue. You will see the numbers increase you have to be naive to think these people are not here. That theyre not out here surveilling certain locations to do things like this. The key to stopping this in the future is going to be intelligence. Making sure we know who they are or where they are, where theyre from, what theyre up to. The more intel we can get the better. Liz from a citigroup official on the ground, sir, were getting eyewitness reports steeling into the studio right now. Quote, it is really bad down here, 9 11 all over again. Police and bomb units. Downtown manhattan is shut down with ambulances, choppers, in the air. It is 9 11 mode all over again. That is embeaded deep into the psyche of new yorkers, this area of manhattan. What are your thoughts, sir . Especially in that location. Keep in mind, there is some long, hard, feelings what happened down there and especially the new yorkers that live there, work there, go to school there. They remember that, and know it and know it well. The good thing for us, liz, we have resources no other municipality in the country has. They will make sure every resource goes into this investigation. At this point, they probably have it all, you know, solidified but they also want to make sure that there is nobody else out there, that there are not any other vehicles. They will be tied up for a while yet. Liz lets recap with viewers. This happened 3 00 to 3 is15. A truck entered the west street vehicle bike path, near the World Trade CenterFreedom Tower the vehicle took off at high speed, continued south, striking people on bicycles and other individuals before colliding with a school bus it appears. It appears he exited that vehicle. Police gave chase. It is unclear whether he was holding weapons or imitation weapons. So, sir, again, we talk about the ease with which terrorists can get into vans and vehicles and do vehicular ramming attacks because to your point, it doesnt need a lot to do that you dont need training for things like bombs. You just need seething anger and internet which applies to the ideology and the technique. Go ahead. The one thing that is critical here people have to realize, the job of the Everyday Police officer has changed. Police officers are responding, a local cop on the beat, just doing local Community Policing is now put in a position where he is dealing with, what could be a national or international incident. Those times have changed. Cops have to be trained differently. They have to be educated differently. They have to be taught about International Terrorism and how to respond to these events. Luckily the cops were down there. They did a great job stopping the guy or getting him in custody but this is the world we live in and the way police will have to be trained in future. Liz lets bring in fox business senior correspondent, charlie gasparino. A horrific attack happening in Lower Manhattan. Charlie. I covered 9 11 back in the day. It is all too, still pretty fresh in my mind. I remember the evacuation of Lower Manhattan after the twin towers were struck. While this isnt exactly that type of attack it is tragic but not in the scale, there is a massive evacuation going on in Downtown Manhattan right now from the businesses down there. The wall street firms and other businesses. What, i am talking to people on the ground who said Downtown Manhattan right now is in 9 11 mode. There is cops all over the place. There is s. W. A. T. Teams all over the place. They are guarding the subways, the, theyre on the roads. It is massive traffic and bedlam. It really is in crisis mode down there. And ill tell you, what is scary about this, is, you know, the impact on a human toll is obvious. But there is a psychological toll that terrorists try to impose. Youre seeing it right now, where Downtown Manhattan is not a place you want to be right now. It is crazy. And yes, there is a massive evacuation. I remember the evacuation during 9 11. It was made even more difficult by the fact that the twin towers imploded. People were covered with dust. It was really a horrific scene. This is not quite that, but you know, people are talking about this being Downtown Manhattan in terms of a massive evacuation being in 9 11 mode. What i understand it is not a pretty picture. This is part of what terrorists want. They want to sow confusion and Downtown Manhattan is very confusing place. Liz charlie makes a good point, bernard, mr. Care rick, reaction from around the world. France and uk have suffered through vehicular terrorist attacks. So sympathies coming into the United States right now. Speak to the victims families, mr. Kerik. What do you want to say to them . I mean its tragic. Liz it is a disgrace, a horrific disgrace. It is just tragic and horrible. These are innocent people went around their business. A lot of them exercising, just going about their business, living in a free world, their lives are taken by some maniac. You know, to charlies point one thing he mentioned about the response, keep in mind this is the world we live in, whether departments or new york city, look, new york city has done tremendous job, always does when it comes to Disaster Response and crisis management. But, i cant urge enough to stress to outside agencies, in other cities and in other states. This is the world we live in. And your Law Enforcement capabilities have to be prepared. They have to have the training. They have to have the Disaster Response training. Crisis management training. The Police Officers, local and state police, how to deal with terrorist acts. How do i identify suspicious activity. All of these things have come out of 9 11. It is growing just about daily in this country. Something we to be prepared for. They are prepared in new york but we have to make sure the rest of the country is liz charlie, the 21st century is seen a rise in vehicle ramming attacks carried out by individuals committed to jihadist ideology. It is easy to do it. It took off in 2001 and really, really took off in this decade. Your thoughts, charlie. I talk to a lot of people in Police Intelligence and Homeland Security intelligence and including one not too long ago, they were as towned there were not more lone wolfstyle terrorist attacks than has happened. They foil a lot of them. They pick these guys up before they do what they want to do, but this is aside from the grand gesture of al qaeda, 9 11 aspect of that, they are were really bracing for these lone wolf, oneoff things put together by one deranged terrorist. And they are surprised it isnt more. Now it is in europe. Now it is here obviously or apparently. I dont know what the final verdict is on this. Either way, if this is not, a terrorist, inspired person directly, obviously someone who committed an act of domestic terrorism. You know, the new York City Police department, i can tell you, is prepared for this but you cant will be 100 prepared for this, 100 prepared for this. You can talk about it. This is the world we live in. This can happen in a free society. Liz charlie, used to be the model for al qaeda was to train together in groups to carry out attacks. I dont think this is al qaeda. Liz im not saying that, say with me. Hang on a second. That went defunct in 2005, isis said, you individual lone wolves stay in place. We need to you conduct terror attacks on your own. In fact in 2010 you saw them inspired, online english language isis, al qaeda actually magazine, go after pedestrians and achieve maximum carnage with vehicles. Go ahead. Here is the thing. This sort of impact that isis wants to accomplish. And al qaeda obviously wanted to accomplish but isis in individual attacks they want to get society so scared not just that it shuts down people, you dont just commit a murder, you start having impact on the society and the economy. When you see a lot of these things, that is where that impact, where people stop going out. Where people dont go to work. It does have economic impact. The repetitiveness of such acts. It will be interesting to see, not that i want to reduce every issue to a market event but that is kind of what we do here sometimes, how people sort of translate this into an economic event because remember the economic impact, yes they want to kill people. But they also want to accomplish economic impact. Isis did it during 9 11. We remember that well see what happens here if this starts getting translated. Liz again, lets get back to isis and the terrorist webzine, called the ultimate mowing machine, a vehicle, a pickup truck, not to mow grass but mow down the enemies of allah. Connell mcshane fox news correspondent, at the scene in Lower Manhattan connell. Reporter liz, close to the scene, what took place 3 00, two hours ago. Speaking to a witness as you guys were doing moments ago. He said he arrived at chambers street, west street, just as some local schools were getting out. Was able to get a birdseye view of disaster taking place below him. I daysay birdseye view, footbridges people know in the area, they know are there, it is easier to cross these busy streets than Lower Manhattans particularly over on the west side on west street. He was standing on one of bridges looking down, he saw two bodies covered in white sheets, two people obviously killed by this driver. Federal Law Enforcement sources said to us was herd yelling allahu akbar as he got out of a white pickup truck after running down people in a bike lane, driving not only the wrong way but in a bike lane, as opposed to a lane reserved for pedestrian traffic. I can tell you where we are, corner of chambers and greenwich street couple blocks away its a scene of emergency vehicles. Some white nypd vans have blocked the street. The crime scene couple blocks to our west and helicopters hovering above. It is hard to add details. Witnesses are congregating west of here, making their way back. Well get back to you throughout the evening, liz, best we can. Liz thank you, connell mcshane. Lets go back to charlie gasparino. We are talking to experts in the muslim world. Right. Liz theyre emailing me now, charlie, queens, brooklyn, parts of new york state have large extremists linked populations. This is what were hearing from major author who has written about nogo zones. Has new york city, charlie, to your mind been complacent or high alert over these attacks . No, i dont think it is complacent at all. I will say this, before we start pointing fingers saying this is definitely inspired by and isis. Liz they say its a terrorist attack. Okay. I see people jump the gun. I dont think new york city is complacent. Whatsoever. I was on the phone with somebody, who was down there. It spoke about the Rapid Response of new York City Police even a whiff of terrorism, snipers were on the roof, cops were down there. The place was cordoned off. Pretty Rapid Response. They obviously know how to respond. The question, we live in open society. We live in free society. There are rules and there are laws. One thing i think bill de blasio did, im not laying it on his back, he stopped surveilance of mosques in new york city. That is something that will have to be revisited if this is in fact isis inspired or radical islamic inspired. That speaks to the complacency. Bill de blasio, mayor bloomberg, ray kelly, when he was police chief, they actually had surveillance of mosques. That has all ended. That may be, they may need to bring that back. And at least we might, need to have that debate. We should be having that debate. Shows you how, lack of priorities of bill de blasio, the mayor of new york city. We should be having that debate, not debate whether we should keep the Christopher Columbus statue. That debate involves lives and safety of new yorkers. Liz lets bring viewers uptodate. At least eight dead. And that is a few blocks away from one World Trade Center, the scene there. Youre looking at it, a few blocks away from the Freedom Tower. The suspect is now in custody. He did give custody, he gave chase. He tried to run away on foot. Appears he has a florida i. D. We want to bring in steve rogers, former senior military Intelligence Officer on Fbi Joint Terrorism Task force as we await a new York City Press conference about this, what the fbi is saying, appears to be a deliberate terror attack. Steve what is your reaction what is going on . Now that the fbi has determined this is a deliberate terrorist attack. A couple things they will be doing as were speaking. Number one, they want to immediately best of their ability to find out if anyone else is involved. If there is any foreign connection or if this was a lone wolf. It is very important to find that out as quickly as possible. Number two, they want to find out if anyone else locally was involved in the planning and execution of this attack. Now it is possible that prior guests said, this is one individual who was probably radicalized and decided to use this as a target of opportunity. But right now, we dont know the answers to those questions, but those are the questions that the fbi and Law Enforcement has to quick as possible get answered. Liz we were speaking earlier, mr. Rogers, with bernard kerik, talking about what Law Enforcement and intelligence officials are calling rise of what theyre characterizing as microterrorism. These seething individuals get on the internet. They pick up ideology and technique that it is easy for them to do vehicle attacks because there is limited access to explosives. You dont need a lot of training, minimal training and experience to do these vehicle attacks. Go ahead. I was listening to commissioner speaking with you and he was right on. He brought up important point, Law Enforcement agencies, nationwide, no matter how big your city or important, intelligence gathering, information collection. Encourage citizens to Say Something, if they see something. This is critically important, that they get prepared for just about anything. Liz s suspect is believed to have shouted out allahu akbar . Well now listen to the press conference with t