charter planes you were talking about when the domestic planes or domestic options were available to him and the question had come up for the president on multiple occasions would he fire secretary price. in the end it was to your point a resignation that was accepted from the secretary to the president this afternoon that came in and was released to us late in the afternoon at the white house. now you mentioned the name don w right, the acting secretary one of price's deputies that takes over for now and we'll see what they do in terms of the search for a permanent replacement but after the president accepted that resignation but before we all knew about it before it was public he said this. at the white house, before leaving for new jersey, listen. >> president trump: i was disappointed because i didn't like it, cosmetically or otherwise, i think he's a very fine person, i certainly don't like it. as i said we renegotiate deals, we're renegotiating trade deals, we're renegotiating as an example the f-35 fighter planes. i've saved hundreds of millions of dollars so i don't like the optics of what you just said. >> in that context certainly it didn't look good and the president knew that bad optics you heard him use that phrase on multiple occasions and look at the numbers liz just on a domestic basis all of these charter flights added up to a total cost of some $400,000 accord to multiple reports so secretary price made an offer to payback $$52,000 which would be enough to pay for his seat but in the end not enough to save his job. back to you. >> liz: thank you connell. obama officials also took price non-commercial flights, more pricey non-commercial flights than trump officials did. this so far this year the white house signed off on 77 flights for administration officials in president trump's first eight months in office non-commercial flights comparing to 94 during the first eight months of the obama administration. let's get to former senior advisor to george w. rush karl rove joins me now. kickly let's go through it. loretta lynch, eric holder, robert mueller and leon panetta all use non-commercial flights as well so what do you think of that angle to that story? >> well i think you've got to distinguish between the national security element and the domestic agencies. there's a reason why you have the cia director flying in a private plane but i got to tell you i think the president was right. tom price i'm a huge fan, but this was excessive and the administration unfortunately has a pattern of this. there's been criticism, the secretary of treasury, the secretary of the interior, when you're in a high profile position like this you've got to be very careful about this. the process in the bush administration has to sign off on these, was very carefully monitored, had to be an explicit reason why, there had to be no sort of available commercial traffic. there had to be an essential reason for the traffic and a huge a heavier preponderance i would suspect of those trips had to do with national part of the national security apparatus. >> liz: okay loretta lynch was on a private jet when she met with bill clinton in that famous tarmac meeting right? >> yeah. >> liz: so there's been accusations under both republican and democrat administrations that government officials are using private jets you can understand the need to get to a place fast, right? so that's also the problem too because you're waiting in the airport it takes a long time to get on a flight, right? >> yes, it does but again, you know, there's the tension between the necessity. how important is it for you to be in like for example, one instance was the secretary of price apparently flew from washington d.c. to philadelphia. you can fly there, maybe there aren't enough planes each day but there's a train that leaves washington station almost, you know, once or twice an hour, the ascella or another express that heads north and look this was just excessive and again i say this with deep disappointment because tom price is a good man. he knows the issues at the department of health and human services almost better than anybody. he's really vital to the issue of repealing and replacing obamacare because he's been think about this for a long time he's a true reformer on healthcare the republicans need his voice, brain, intellect and capacity to persuade but this was a mistake and i think he was right to resign and the president was right to receive his resignation. >> liz: this is the first member of the cabinet to resign and is also investigations now into interior secretary ryan zinc and treasury secretary steve mnuchin how far does this go? >> well, i think those are probably the only others that the president has been able to find. i mean, they are probably the only others that have done it because that's all the press has been able to find. betsy devos is flying on a private plane but it's her plane and she's not billing the government for it and it's a question of proportional it. this was really a significantly more expenditures for secretary price than it was for treasury or for interior but it's a cautionary note. people in places of public responsibility like that have a special responsibility to not spend miss spend the taxpayer's dollars. >> liz: switching gears speaking of taxpayers, middle class taxpayers now subjected to a non -stop bar age about how tax cuts are get this bad for them despite what president had has been saying. >> president trump: my administration is working every day to lift the burdens on our companies and on our workers so that you can thrive, compete, and grow and at the very center of that plan is a giant, beautiful, massive, the biggest ever in our country tax cut. >> liz: okay, let's take on the media and democrats and expose the myths they've been misleading the company with all those greedy fat cat corporations . we'll show you how jobs are created, how the democrats are covering up their glaring lack of a growth plan, but the warfare tax that the public and even politicians don't believe but the media falls for time and again. first this myth. corporations are greedy. it's something that the media has pushed in our minds. second myth, corporations only spend money on executive salaries and do not reinvest in their own companies and create jobs. third myth. companies do not help the middle class. we're going to break it down for you right now. this greedy corporations fat cat s, wall street, the rich don't believe the warfare running ramp aunt on capitol hill and in the media because we've got the facts. the facts show corporations and small businesses when they get tax cuts they do create jobs. even government data show that, tax cuts boost investments, create more and better jobs and raise average worker's incomes. why? look at this. irs data show that 90% of all business income is reported at the individual income tax rate. you cut the taxes there? that's more money for them. two-thirds of all businesses report on the individual income tax returns. those are mom and pop shops. those are small businesses owned by the little guys. the middle class. they're not fat cats and by cutting their taxes they can create jobs to boot. as for the big guys the u.s. corporations face a tough tax rate of 39% versus a 23% average for the rest of the world. the u.s. corporations they waste an awful lot of time with lawyers and accountants to get those tax cuts down to level the playing field. the real benefits of tax cuts don't go to what the accusations have been the owners and investors. nope the real benefits largely go to workers. the benefits go to the workers. study after study shows this to be true. the bulk of higher corporate taxes somewhere between 75% and 100%, who foots the bill? workers in the form of lower wages. even the non-partisan congressional budget office estimates that workers bear as much as 70% of the corporate income tax burden. 70%. the heritage foundation points out that despite the name corporate tax reform, the burden of the corporate income tax falls almost entirely on workers in the form of lower wages. here is the common sense . this is the reality. higher taxes mean less investment, less investment means older equipment, and less training for workers, ultimately it also means lower incomes for less productive workers. properly seen corporate tax cuts are really worker tax cuts, look at this economist andrew hanson of marquette university and ike brannon found a corporate rate cut between 30% to 57% creates more jobs, rising between 6-22% and wage increases jump to almost 28%, even a tax happy european union found that when you raise corporate taxes by 10 percentage points that's going to cut worker wages by 7% so carl, the facts are there. why is the media and why are the democrats continuing to mislead? >> well, look. if you're a democrat or liberal, you either say it's a piece of your faith that corporations are evil. you made a great case there, you're right. that corporate tax is paid for by somebody and most of that is paid for as you pointed out by workers in lower wages. i'd say there's another problem with the tax code on businesses that is affecting american jobs, that is going to be fixed by this tax reform and that's the fact that we're the only major industrialized country that taxes the foreign profits of american companies twice. your general electric, you sell an airplane engine in germany and you make a profit and you pay a tax in germany. if you try and bring those profits back to the u.s. you have to pay 35% whatever your effective tax rate is. if you're siemens and you sell a piece of a medical equipment in the u.s. and make a profit you want to take those profits back to germany you can do so with no tax on them back in germany so why are we surprised that america is not as competitive on the international stage and why are we surprised american companies that are selling things abroad are not bringing those profits back home to invest in american plants and equipment and wages here? >> liz: do you know what i was missing was your white board with all your steps right there, but next time we'll bring it. there was a big fight that broke out between robert reich and steve moore, arguing that do you know what? it's spending. it's consumer spending that creates jobs. let's take a listen. >> why are we talking about a corporate and business and wealthy tax cut at a time like this? >> because you need businesses for jobs. it's that simple. without an employer you don't have a job so we want to make-- >> no, no, see, you are wrong about one thing that's very very fundamental. it is the middle income and poor people who actually through their spending create jobs. businesses are not going to invest in new jobs unless there are people who are purchasing. that's one of the problems we've had over the last 25 years. why this recovery has been a sluggish as it has because the middle class and the poor don't have the money. >> liz: okay, this is fantasy land thinking. he's not an economist by the way , he has a law degree. by the way did apple's steve jobs stare at government economic charts and wait for consumer spending to go up before he invented the iphone? did oprah wait to see if consumer spending went up before she went on her own and got successful? it's nuts. >> yeah, look, without investment you can't increase productivity and you can't invent new things. ten years ago we created this. apple created this the iphone. the personal device and what happened? our economy got, it helped economic growth and made our lives better and easier and allowed us to explore things from a computer that we held in our hand and the price of those devices has gone down and why? because businesses invested money in plants and equipment and research and development and made thins that people were able then to buy. yeah, consumers do create play a big role in our economy but consumers you want consumers to be able to buy things that are getting better and less expensive and the only way you'd do that is by having investment in jobs and business and equipment and plants and research and development and what this is going to do is kickoff a big boom in that. >> liz: wow carl there's a cultural sea change that needs to happen and different thinking that needs to happen. >> absolutely. >> liz: the media is misleading american people and so are the democrats thank you karl rove good to see you. coming up a video gone viral an arizona cop expressing his outrage over the nfl national anthem protest. >> listen, you play a game. you suit up, you lose, you go home, and in the real world? real heros, when they lose games , they don't come back. >> liz: we've got that cop. his name is brandon tatum, coming on and show more of the video and talk to us about it and also uc berkeley now shutting down a pro-israel speech by harvard law professor. and professor is threatening to sue, he too is going to be here with us to talk about that, but first the media is slamming the trump plans to cut the death tax saying that tax cut is a give- away for the rich. it's a moral thing to do that's their argument but my next guest is a farmer. she says the death tax hurts her business. liberty farms owner martha bonit a is here next. what did we do before phones? they save us from getting lost, getting hungry, and getting nervous in places like this. now phones can save us money too. introducing xfinity mobile. with unlimited data for just $45. that's the lowest price out there for one line. and you can get the same price on up to five. see how much you can save when you get unlimited on a new kind of network designed to save you money. call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile.com. >> there are massive gifts to donald trump and his family in the massive tax cuts that trump and the republicans are proposing. they would eliminate the inheritance tax so that ivanka trump and her brothers would not have to suffer one penny of taxation when their father's estate passes to them. >> eliminating the estate tax and alternative minimum tax both of those help rich people. eliminating the estate tax, now that's a huge give away that will exacerbate income and equality. >> liz: the media slamming the trump plan to cut the estate tax saying it's a give away for the rich but trump economic advisor gary cohen saying no it benefits small businesses and family farms, the little guys and mom and pop shops the most. >> so you all talk about the debt tax and that being a great benefit, but the two biggest drivers for repeal of the debt tax are the nfib and the farm bureau. that's small businesses and farms. those are the two organizations that spend the most time lobbying on the repeal of the debt tax. debt tax has the biggest effect on them. small businesses and farms. wealthy americans do a lot of estate planning. they can use trust. they can use all types of things that are legal within the tax code to make sure they don't pay debt tax. >> liz: let's talk to a farmer about this joining me now liberty farms owner martha boneta, good to see you martha. what are your thoughts on the media and the democrats argument that it is moral to hit you and other small businesses with the estate tax? it's moral to do so. >> you know, small family farmer s are the backbone of america, the heart beat of america. i mean, american family farmers we feed america, we provide the food on the shelves. these are small family businesses, small mom and dad shops and you know, this tax is not only immoralities offensive because it forces the the aging out population it forces the next generation that wants to farm to inherit the family farm that wants to keep the legacy of the family farm continuing and it forces them in many cases to sell off their farm in order to satisfy this inheritance tax, this debt tax that has been strangulating the american family farmer for generations and we couldn't be more happy for the repeal of this tax. >> liz: astonishing. go ahead, finish. >> what it means is it's going to give the next generation of family farmers hope because they're overregulated as it is. the family farmer is over regulated to death and that co-mingled with this death tax the next generation that wants to farm says i'm going to be stopped and dead in my tracks before i even get a chance to really work the family farm and to make the american dream come true. >> liz: you know it's amazing your family builds a business for generations and then the tax comes in and you've got to, you have to sell the farm to pay the tax. that's the question. is it moral for the government to tax people twice? is it moral to tax them twice once they earn the money and again when they have to give it away? i mean is it moral for the government to create a tax that benefits tax lawyers and companies to structure tax haven s to avoid the tax? does that make the world a better place? >> well you know, you're absolutely correct and i can tell you firsthand that listen, this is america. you should be able to work really hard and take the fruit of your labor and leave it behind for the next generation without having to go to your resting place and worry about whether or not your children are going to have to sell off the family farm to pay for those taxes. and what you've already been taxed on your entire life. it's immoral and it's offensive and this repealing this death tax breathes hope and opportunity into the next generation of family farmers that want so much to be able to carry out the american dream of farming. >> liz: yes. >> we feel so grateful that this is coming, it's long overdue and it's also could have all sorts of impacts on the shelves. i mean, this could in fact reduce the price of goods on the american grocery store shelves because this burden is going to be lifted off of the american family farmer. >> liz: you know martha it was a temporary tax. it's supposed to be temporary. i mean ronald reagan had it right. nothings more temporary than a permanent than a temporary tax if you can understand that. >> that's right. >> liz: good to see you thank you so much for coming on. thank you. >> liz: now look at this china e electric fridays the auto industry. it's moving up it's deadline for car makers to have 10% of the entire fleet in china electric? by 2019 the percentage goes up next year 2020 to maybe 25% and more. that will be sure to send shockwaves through u.s. car companies and car companies around the world and governments as well because china is the world's largest car market. coming up we've got the video going viral, an arizona police officer expressing his outrage over the nfl national anthem protest. >> you're talking about an anthem of hope and unity within this country that have made people become great that have made the poor become rich and give people opportunities. >> liz: we've got that police officer here next to talk about it. also uc berkeley now blocking a pro-israel speech by harvard law professor alan dershowitz and professor alan dershowitz he is threatening to sue, he's also here to talk about that after this. she needs more care though. she wants to stay in her house. i don't know even where to start with that. first, let's take a look at your financial plan and see what we can do. ok, so we've got... we'll listen. we'll talk. we'll plan. baird. >> liz: you c berkeley possibly blocking more free speech, now a pro-israel speech by attorney alan dershowitz may be blocked. why because organizers did not give campus police the required eight week notice for the event, or so the university says. the harvard law professor is now threatening to sue berkeley for violating his first amendment right. professor alan dershowitz joins me now to talk about it good to see you professor. >> good to see you. look they had an eight week rule and applied it across-the-board it would be a neutral rule and probably would be fair but they have an exception and the exception is a catch t2 22. the session is any department of the university invites a speaker there is no eight week rule and here is the trick. departments invite only anti- israel speakers, never pro- israel speakers. the department invited the man that's head of the boycott movement against israel so he's invited by the department and can speak tomorrow but if i want to rebut him the department won't invite me because it's bias against israel and conservatives. they will invite only left wing speakers not conservative speakers. only anti-israel speakers not pro-israel speakers so the effect of the rule is anyone whose a radical leftist or anti- israel gets to speak whenever they want and the rest of us have to wait eight weeks which in my case means i couldn't do it because my schedule doesn't permit me to do it in eight weeks so we're going to sue them unless they either change the rule or find a department within the college that's willing to invite me. the law school indicated now that it's prepared to invite me that was after i threated a lawsuit so i'll be seeking the law school but i want to speak to the college students as well and i'm waiting to hear if a department will invite me. >> liz: professor i don't think you're a conservative right? no i'm a liberal. >> liz: who was making these decisions behind the scenes? whose calling shots? >> well the university because of security. >> liz: but who is the university? >> well we don't know, the provo st, the dean. >> liz: you mean janet napolitano? >> well i don't know the answer to that but the effect of the rule is to have content discrimination to make it easier for radical leftist and anti- israel people and i qualify that as i'm a conservative, i supported hillary clinton but i'm pro-israel and there for i qualify not as a person of the left but as a person of the right and they don't want me to speak in no department will sponsor me. that's content discrimination and constitutes a public university. >> liz: is that how divided we've become? >> that's how divided we've become. it's tragic. i spoke at columbia the other night and they threatened to shut me down but i went on television and i exposed them and they backed down and i was allowed to speak. the people who wanted to protest me didn't even show up. i said i would give them the opportunity to ask the first questions, i would say as long as every single question, there didn't have to be a question, a comment, attack, or criticism but they don't want to open their minds and hear ideas that might actually make them think. they know what the truth is and they see no reason for opposing points. >> liz: professor we had one of berkeley's college republicans on our program last friday. let's take a listen to what he said. >> sure. >> i'm actually surprised that janet napolitano is concerned about financial issues after she routinely squanders the hard working taxpayer dollars of californiaans on undocumented student coordinators on every campus that helps with legal issues for undocumented students up to $8 million spent every year and i have a solution for her. maybe we could use our slush fund of over $100 million she uses for lavish trips and expenses and parties on protecting free speech on on college campuses . this is a problem they created on its own. >> liz: okay so this is janet p into she's a former obama homeland security secretary. she runs uc berkeley. the charge there is that she's using taxpayer funds and college money to promote only liberal events at the school. what do you think? >> well i hope not. she is somebody i admire. i think that she learned about this would say of course i should have the right to speak. probably she doesn't understand that the eight week rule does have an impact based on the content of your speech and it discriminates against conservatives, liberals even and people who support israel, so i think when it's brought to her attention, she will try to avoid any content-based discrimination because i believe she is a supporter of free speech. >> liz: are you definitely going to sue? >> i'm going to sue the if the department won't sponsor me and if they sponsor anti-israel speakers. that is a clear violation of the first amendment by a publicly funded university. is the department will invite me then there's no reason for a suit. if the department won't invite me, then we change it at eight weeks because that rule hasselberg an impact based on content and if they don't change the rule and the department doesn't invite me see you in court. >> liz: professor alan dershowitz, please come back and keep us updated. thank you professor. coming up a video gone viral an arizona cop expressing his outrage over the nfl national anthem protest. >> if you feel that the american flag represents negativity and slavery and all this other stuff you have to give credit and credence to a flag that are given to you an opportunity to go from corn fields and picking cotton to being the president of the united states of america. >> liz: coming up that police officer is here with us to talk about it but first former first lady michelle obama now slamming women who voted for president trump. we've got that piece and also former trump campaign spokesperson katrina pierceon is here to react after this. think again. this is the new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov you know win control? 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>> well, i think the goal here, liz is to not be like the obama administration and i'm sure this is something that the president considered very carefully and looked at the details probably many of the details we're not aware of at this point but he said initially he was not happy about hearing about these flight s and i understand that secretary price apologized. i think that was very good of him to do; however this is supposed to be an administration that wants to end those types of things when unnecessary and it seems like the president decided this was unnecessary. >> liz: you're saying that the president trump and the administration is moving to be completely ethical and you know the president katrina continues to say that dr. price is a good man. why do you think he resigned and the president accepted? >> well i think if you look at the full context here, i mean there was a joke back in july specifically regarding repealing and replacing obamacare and the president said if he didn't get his job done he was going to fire him so if you add this on top of the failures in obamacare including this week the inability to get anything done at that level the president is very much a doer. he always talks about there's a lot of talk in government but not a lot of doers and if you add this on top of that he felt like it was the right thing to do. at the end of the day we have to have people in place who are going to get the job done number one and number two, the president has committed to providing a different government than what we've had in the past and i think this goes to show he's committed to doing that. >> liz: switching gears former first lady michelle obama slam ming women who voted for president trump. let's listen. >> any woman who voted against hillary clinton, [unable to hear ] his voice and you don't like him. >> liz: and this week, supreme court justice ruth ginsberg said hillary clinton did not win the presidency because she's a woman let's listen. >> do you think sexism played a role in that campaign? >> do i think so? yes. >> i have no doubt that it did. >> [applause] >> do you think it was decisive? >> that it was? >> divisive. in other words if hillary clinton had been a man she would have won that election going away? >> there's so many things that might have been decisive but that was a major major factor. >> liz: okay was it sexist when women voted for obama over hillary in the 2007 primary? was it sexism that stopped hillary from campaigning in wisconsin or pennsylvania? >> well if you ask a liberal dep o contract i'd guess you'd have to say no. i mean this is where the confusion comes from an why so many people are tired of gender- identity politics because it failed and if you look at barely 50% of democrat primary voters supported hillary clinton in the democrat primary but leave it up to anyone on the left to insult 41% of the female s just because they voted for a different economic pathway of their future. god forbid can we just get away from this for one second and look at why hillary clinton lost to barack obama and why she lost to donald trump? it had nothing to do with women. >> liz: and do you know a lot of women who voted for trump didn't like his comments that he made. a lot of people didn't did you the other stat too katrina nearly half of men voted for hillary clinton. is that sexism? >> well you know, it depends on who you're asking and what excuse you're looking for and in this case the left likes to point fingers at everybody but themselves when there's a failure involved and this is just another reason. this is another way, look when you didn't vote for barack obama you were a racist. if you didn't vote for hillary clinton, you're a sexist and that's just how this is going along but as we're seeing left still has not learned that this is backfiring. people are sick of it because they just want a better future for their family. >> liz: they don't have an economic growth plan still. they really don't. this is class, warfare identity theft katrina you're terrific. thanks. next up president donald trump today saying the u.s. will not arrest until puerto ricans are safe. curt schilling is in puerto rico now giving us the latest from the ground live, next. but first an arizona cop expressing his outrage over the nfl national to talk about that after this. >> remember who pays your salary remember who is still in these seats paying you money. you ain't making money because you're a good athlete. you're making money people because people want to watch you and when you spit in their face they will no longer support you. >> to have these people who turn around and take a knee and won't attribute all of the negativity to the flag and the anthem but don't want to attribute the positive. listen youly a game. this is fairy tail world. suit up you lose you go home. cry, play another game. in the real world real heros when they lose games they don't come back. the people that die for the flag ain't a game. it's real-life. it's real sacrifice. >> liz: one arizona police officer, he's also a veteran, his video now going viral after calling nfl players crybabies on youtube for refusing to stand for the national anthem. both teams finally standing last night during the anthem prior to the nfl game between the chicago bears and the packers. they were linking arms instead. espn's michelle steel pointing out "the vast majority did not link arms in the stands." the fans though sang along with the anthem rightyeah thanks form glad to be here. >> liz: your video, you went viral. around. i mean 60 million views i'm at at this point is just amazing >> liz: officer why did you make the video? >> well, i got to a point where i got fed up. i mean it's kind of the title of the video. i wasn't going to make one initially but being as i continue to watch people disrespect the flag, disrespect this country it made me more upset and i felt like i needed to say something to give people the outlet or a voice and articulate what we all want to say and i think it ended up being successful. >> liz: officer a lot of the fans out there who watch nfl football are saying the flag is the symbol of freedom and not oppression and we've got part of your video where you criticize pro football players for pretend ing to be experts on life let's listen. >> i'm sick of you athletes. i was an athlete. i'm sick of you all trying to act like you played in the nfl and somehow you're an expert on life. you have no idea what you're talking about. >> liz: what are your thoughts r nfl player and you know just the dialogue back and forth left the impression that somehow just because he was a professional athlete he knew about life and he knew what was right and wrong in certain situations that he had no idea about so i felt like it was my position to set the record straight and say look, man i'm in the real world. i do real-life stuff. i mean you're playing a game to have very minimal consequences for wins and losses so i felt like i needed to say it and i thought it was perfect timing. >> liz: you know officer are you thinking that the nfl football players that they are the wrong spokesmen for inequality? >> i can't say that every single person is the wrong spokesperson i think there's probably many of them who are doing the right things and who are in the communities but i think that the person who initiated this is definitely the wrong spokesperson because they did it for all of the wrong reasons. >> liz: do you mean c did it fog reasons he said he won't stand and support a flag for black people and people of color. his initial protest was against the country and the flag and i think that was totally wrong and as you listen to them today the message has totally changed and is very inconsistent. >> liz: so you're for free speech you're saying the football players have a right to free speech just don't do it with the flag right? >> right. i mean please. if you have an issue, speak on it. we have that platform, people died so we have that right but don't disrespect the country because then it takes away from your argument and takes away from your movement and now we're talking about a flag and not what they want us to talk about. >> liz: officer brandon tatum, thank you so much. next up president donald trump with more support for puerto rico today, basically saying that the u.s. will not rest until puerto ricans are safe. we have former professional baseball pitcher and espn analyst, curt schilling he's been in puerto rico helping out on the ground giving us a live update, next. you've thought about it, dreamt about it, maybe you should just go ahead and do it. we're legalzoom, and we've helped over a million people just like you start their own businesses. legalzoom. legal help is here. or a little internet machine? 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