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two long guns and a sidearm and a full of ammunition when he was killed in a shoot-out with local police. we have the latest for you tonight from the investigation in chattanooga and developments as well from washington. and in iran tonight, cries and chants of death to america during service even without the video and the sound of the anti-american sentiment on the streets of. the president faces a difficult challenge of presenting congress and the american people his nuclear deal with iran is anything other than good. to the leading sponsor of irradical and the leading american superpower. also we have now learned just how easy it was for drug lord el chapo to escape a maximum security prison in mexico. officials giving the most powerful drug trafficker a stunning start in his prison break. and there's no explanation as to why the government of mexico has refused the help and assistants in its search for him. are they perhaps someone might and find capture him? we'll take that up here tonight. our top story. the unfolding investigation in chattanooga. officials trying to determine what drove a once accomplished student mixed martial arts fighter and muslim to ruthlessly gun down four marines and wound two others. fox news corresponded john roberts is in chattanooga with our report. >> good evening, lieu, to be clear the fbi has not declared this to be an act of terrorism, but it is treating it as one. allowing the bureau a far greater degree of money and manpower to investigate the how and why of this case. >> a convoy raises up the interstate today, carrying the bodies of the four explain marines to dover, delaware where they will be draped in flags and try to find to their families. ♪ ♪ here in chattanooga, an out pouring of grief for the dead while in the 100-degree heat outside the recruiting center, crime lab technician worked meticulously to strays the bullets. >> he had two long guns, which would be rifles and shotguns and one handgun. >> today we learned the names of the four victims, thomas sullivan purple heart veteran. and lance, a 21-year-old from murrieta, georgia, who was honored a service member of a day at disney world last week. and asserting home quist, who leaves behind a wife and two-year-old son. and david a tennessee father of two and veteran of iraq and afghanistan. at this point the fbi's joint terrorism task force, which is leading the investigation, police muhammad youssef abdulazeez he acted alone. they have not found any obvious links between outside terror groups and have no idea what he did what he did. and he was ready to kill anyone they don't got his way including heroic police officers who confronted him at the reserve center. >> these officers were under a tremendous amount of gunfire from this individual. and yet they continued to move forward against target and engage him and eliminate that threat saving numerous lives throughout this community. >> this suspected act of domestic terror has devastated with one magazine named last week the best town ever. residents gathered by the hundreds in vigils to wrestle the flood of convicting emotions. >> we're all struggling with the same issues. >> the fbi spent much of yesterday going through the shooter's residents in nearby hixson, tennessee. neighbors echoed familiar theme in tragedies describing muhammad youssef abdulazeez as a pretty normal guy. >> we're in the same grade. had a lot of the same classes, a lot of the same friends. everyone is shocked. i mean we're just blown away to be honest. really i can't -- i can't believe it really. >> chattanooga police not taken down muhammad youssef abdulazeez when they did, no telling how much worse this could have been. the fbi said today while he was not wearing body armor, he was wearing a load-bearing vest capable of caring anonymous amounts of extra ammunition. lieu. >> thank you very much. john roberts from chattanooga. the fbi says there's no direct evidence that the shooter was inspired by the islamic state. but it's still very early in this investigation, and there are other indications, red flags, and warnings here. including the shooter's trip to jordan. fox news catherine herridge has our report. >> investigators are scrutinizing shooting suspect muhammad youssef abdulazeez travel to the middle east last year, including at least one trip to jordan. a government official would not confirm reports the 24-year-old may have also it would have to yemen. >> we're exploring all travel that he has done and we have asked our intelligence partners throughout the world to provide us with any information they may have concerning his travel and or activities while overseas. >> separately law enforcement source confirmed investigators are coming through his computer files trying to determine a motive with a special focus on material or propaganda reflecting extremist ties. the chairman of the homeland security committee who has been briefed on the case, told reporters of the suspect's weapons. >> my understanding was that he was carrying an ak-47 with multiple rounds of ammunition. so he had not only that, but multiple weapons as well. >> while the investigation senior on going and in its earliest stages, a federal law enforcement source says no evidence so far has altered their focus. the u.s. attorney described their sustainable. >> we're investigating it at the highest level have investigation. and i wouldn't get caught up in monikers about whether it's domestic, international this that. it's a terrorism investigation. >> the army top officer says security will be reviewed at military recruiting and reserve centers. but it's premature to say whether there should be security guards or other protective measures saying that arming troops could make matters worse. and whether the centers were left vulnerable during this heightened threat environment. >> the president believe it's appropriate for the compartment of department of defense to conduct a review like that, it's important for us to take the necessary steps to make sure that our men and women in uniform are safe. particularly when it comes to our men and women here at home. >> and executive order that will authorize the arming of some national guard troops at recruitment centers. it's painful enough when service members railroad killed overseas, and they should not be put at risk in their own communities. lieu. >> kathryn, thank you very much. we'll have a lot more coming up on this case in later in the broadcast. . >> correct. has turning now to another big issue. the white house today continuing its sard sell of what critics are calling a very bad nuclear deal with iran. president obama meeting with saudi arabia's foreign minister at the white house today to discuss that deal. the meeting was closed to cameras, but a readout and both sides quote welcomed the nuclear agreement. saudi arabia, however, is deeply skeptical of the president's outreach to iran and earlier this morning secretary state john kerry pushed back to the deal that the; am i right of four men's still held hostage in iran. >> there was not a meeting that took place. not one meeting that took place. believe me that's not an exaggeration where we did not raise the issue of our american citizens being held. >> back in 2013 kerry told congress he did not link the americans anything further in iran to these negotiations because he didn't want them to become quote hostages or pawns of the process. family members of those being held something the administration could have been more forceful, and it raises a number of questions about what was actually said by this administration and why those hostages still remain in the custody of the iranians. new details tonight on the astounding prison escape of mexico's most dangerous drug lord el chapo. a mexican government official telling the news media that it took authorities 18 minutes to realize el chapo had escaped from the maximum 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breaking story. we have just learned that the man who gunned down four marines in chattanooga spent time working at a nuclear power plant in ohio. a plant spokesman says muhammad youssef abdulazeez was quote briefly and conditionally employed at the perry nuclear power plant for ten days back in 2013. he was never given unescorted access to the plant. never entered a secure area at the plant. and we are still unclear as to what he was doing at that plant. our next guest says there's no doubt authorities are getting closer to calling this what it is no doubt and that is radical islamist terrorism. for more on the murder of four marines and other americans in chattanooga, joining us tonight is bill, he's a former assistant director of the fbi in new york. fbi's largest field office. he's also a former assistant director of the inspection division of the fbi in washington d.c. bill, good to have you with us. the threads that are coming out of this right now. it is interesting that we know this young man was -- born in kuwait, that his name almost immediately. we know there have been arrests, two family members taken from his home. two females in handcuffs by authorities. and now this. we're finding out that he somehow was in access, apparently working in some form for a period of a week and a half at a nuclear power plant in ohio. how long would you say based on your experience will it be before we have a far better picture of who this muhammad youssef abdulazeez really was? >> well, i can't put a specific timetable to it, but i can assure you that hundreds of investigators both from the federal government and local police departments plus our intelligence assets are working day and night to make sure that this bolt of cloth that's starting to unravel comes unraveled. i don't think there's any doubt, you know? you talk about the doc. i guarantee we've got a terrorist here. it seems as, though, lieu that he was radicalized in maybe a convert or a manner whereby it didn't start until later in his life. but look at what he's done. he became a -- he was into the martial arts, have you ever seen a training film isis where they're not into martial arts? they're noing and fighting with each other? using long barreled weapons, again, something that he did. it's just -- the fact that he went overseas. he went to jordan and jordan very, very good. very, very good to work with and i'm sure they'll find out whether or not he left jordan to go any place out during his alleged stay there. so this is -- this is all the pieces of starting to come together. but i don't think the fbi or anybody will call it radical islamic terrorism. i know the white house never will. >> right. >> but they won't call it that until they assure that all the pieces are in place, and they don't have to backtrack from it . >> how -- give us your own perspective on the so-called individual loan wolf attacks where they're inspired or directed or coordinated by the islamic state. how prevalent do you believe they are? how significant is the threat to the american public? and why in this administration, in your best judgment carrying out its promise, that it will degrade the islamic state, when it has done remarkably little. >> we have a couple of issues here. in terms of the individuals being radicalized, there is no doubt it's probably easier to detect and bring to light groups of individuals who are trying to do something. because whenever you put groups together, somebody will talk to someone, and you have a great chance to work an informant into that scenario to control the group so that something doesn't happen. when you take the individual who is -- we'll say self radicalized, but i think that's a maybe a term that's used too often. >> uh-huh. >> but this individual gets online, gets radicalized -- tells nobody. i wonder how much his parents knew about the two long barrel weapons and the handgun. and when he intended to do. all these things they say nothing to anybody. yet something triggered this young man to do it, and it's my opinion that perhaps that came from somewhere other than the united states. i think that the reaction of the -- of law enforcement to descend upon this case with enormous amount of people that it has plus the unusual event of the direct of jim going over the white house for just in one individual thing. i won't say he never goes to the white house, of course he does. but for a incident for him to go to a white house for something like this is not natural. so there are so many things to put together here that are so not evident. but the amount of work and the greatness of people working on this in all services. this will get resolved, and we'll get to the bottom of it. >> good top of to have you with us. thank you very much. former assistant director of the fbi. be sure to vote in our poll tonight. the question is who do you think will win the gop nomination for president? we've got some new polls to share with you tonight. 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>> it is the one in chattanooga. >> yeah, well, i was watching the news on msnbc, so i thought it was, you know tennessee. well, for one thing i understand the fbi was following this family, we know they were following the boston bombers, so i'm thinking a better idea instead of taxpayers supporting the fbi to follow all these people we're bringing in and putting in american neighborhoods in the country. i don't we just not bring them in so we don't have to pay the fbi to follow them? these are all illegal immigrants. >> it is interesting hoed. i believe people are beginning to think about the fact that the country is defined by who we bring into our country. and i have not heard a national debate on this, even though we've been in a dialogue about -- and a debate of sorts about illegal immigration primarily and border security. and now because of kate stein's. and who are we and how should that be reflected in immigration policy. >> yes. and you would think this would have occurred to republicans a little bit sooner looking at it from a purely partisan perspective. the post 1970 immigrants, the ones brought in by kennedy 1965 immigration act, not only are far poorer than native born americans and much more likely to access government services, but they're voting 8-2 for the democrats. >> yeah. >> we're voting 8-2 for the republicans, i promise you which you can schumer will be on the border with the minuteman. the only reason back home. . >> go ahead. >> sorry there's a delay. so we'll probably be interrupting one another a lot that way. >> your turn next then. >> okay. obama would not have been elected at all but for the post 1970 immigrants. so what is going on with these republicans, lou? their own political survival. oh, well screw the country. i only have a few more years in politics anyway? or i'll make my pile and so much for america? it seems to be. >> i think -- i think that that is, you know, certainly one of the possibilities. and i want to recommend to the audience that buy your book. audios, america. and, first of all, it's always a great read and this is no exception to that record. but there's also an aspect of 1965, and you just reminded me, which is a foundation of all that has changed in this country. you know, a lot of people scratch their heads and i say what's happened to this country? >> yeah. >> anne in this new book tells you a lot what happened to this country beginning with the immigration law of 1965. not 1986, not 1996 or the attempts in 2006 and consequently for comprehensive immigration. 1965 led by senator edward kennedy. let me turn to donald trump. you seem to have taken as they say a bit of a shine to him. you like what he's doing. >> yes. yes, i do. well, he asked for and received an advance copy of my book, and as you just mentioned, the 1965 act changed the immigrants we're bringing in legally dramatically from the immigrants who have in connection with come in until that time and. most brill brig in peasant cultures. the very most poorest cultures as different from ours as imaginable, which is bringing all kinds of surprising behavior on the country. incest rape, and i cover a lot in the book. so even if you like the idea of living in a place like california, i mean besides the beautiful beaches out here one party state and america too is going to be a one-party state. even if you want total control of politics by the democrats the country is changing in other ways where these cultures are changing us. we're not changing them. >> you know, we've got to run. the last question if i may. do you believe that trump is a serious, committed candidate and do you think he can win? >> well, i am shocked that no republican is picking up on this. i mean we have been promised over and over again a wall to security the border. i'm totally against amnesty, whether it's from bush or rubio, or rick perry, and then we've been double-crossed over and over again, and i have been a little surprised how crowd after crowd and, you know, drivers i have, makeup artists. 100% behind trump. i've never seen an issue that divides the elites from the people so much you would think republicans would notice this. but, you know, i would like to like him. scott walker gave his announcement speech this week. 40 minutes. it is not one word about immigration. with trump, number one in the polls. and usually what happens to these candidates who are not already governors, they think screw it. this is no fun running for president. i won't. i hope he keeps running. >> well, it looks like he's already made -- as they say a profound impact as you always do. thanks for being with us. the book is audios, america. we recommend it to you. and a robber in texas chose the wrong convenience store to hold up. watch this video as the walks in and pushes a customer out of the way. that customer turned out to be -- oh, put his hands up and everything. a firefighter. former marine. he sized up the assailant as you see there before body slamming him to the ground. authorities arrived on the scene. they charged the 19-year-old suspect with aggravated robbery and that former marine obviously still keeping up with his training. thank goodness. up next we take up the chattanooga killer's history about a possible motive and the could greeks once again reaching out to europe for help. the greeks are having a really bad run. that's the story coming up next. stay with us we're coming right back can a business have a mind? 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>> well, i was surprised by the speed. but i do think that it was the first thing that everybody thought of without question. and as we heard earlier today from a former new york city police official. this is the new normal. and so it makes sense that this would be the first step for the fbi to take rather than going at it from perhaps another angle and wasting a lot of time to ploy all the tools that they have to treat this as a terrorism case and perhaps get to some reasons behind it, perhaps a lot sooner. . >> michael, do you agree? >> i absolutely agree. for too long we've been sack fifing our security upon the mantle of political correctness. but the biggest thing, which has happened between the fort hood shooting and the shooting in chattanooga is the rise of the islamic state. we can no longer subject that this form of extremism is an outlier. now, we don't know the motivations in this case. but it seems we're at the beginning rather than the beginning of the end. >> well, the middle east, its role in radicalizing students in this case looking at the possibility that muhammad youssef abdulazeez went to jordan and then on to gem enwhere he was further trained or radicalized. i mean there are has been typically a something of a tell on the part of social media where these young people are expressing themselves. we don't seem to have that in the case of muhammad youssef abdulazeez. jonathan, your thoughts and what to make of it. >> sure. we don't have that footprint so to speak in terms of twitter or facebook. but we have a couple of interesting blog posts that were brought to my attention earlier today by a colleague suggesting that he was doing a lot of thinking about islamic history, talking about islamic leaders in the past and how they had positions, either of political power or made a name for themselves on the battlefield. and so perhaps those blogs could be an indication for law enforcement officials as we try to figure out who this guy is, and what he was after . >> how concerned are you that we find out that muhammad youssef abdulazeez was working at a nuclear power plant two years ago? >> the doing so although the plant says in ohio that he did not have access to restricted areas. this is peculiar it seems to me and for one thing. why in the world are people just being admitted in to work whether it's a freelance basis or whether it may be to a sensitive technology. what do you think, michael? >> well, ultimately what i think is we're got an a cookie cutter formula in order to automatically pin every guy. but we need the nationwide criticism of a stop and search strategy where we have to be able to profile people. you know, as a do working on the pentagon in the middle east. i was subject to extra scrutiny, and i welcome that because i have nothing to hide. this is absolutely a concern because if you're going into a nuclear power plant, even if you're not in the most secure areas, even if you are under escort, you're still learning a great deal about security, about its layout and so fourth. . >> and is it your sense that we're doing enough to try to identify to follow people who are behaving in ways that fits the if you will the footprint of someone who possibly could be a threat? whether it's a loan worth or part of a larger organization. >> well, i think what michael said earlier is absolutely correct that we have a culture of political correctness that i think is tripping up law enforcement. we have a sense of who we need to be looking at. look, let's just be honest. most of the terrorism that we're looking at does come from muscles, but that doesn't mean that all mechanisms are terrorists. we're looking at perhaps 10 or maybe 20% of the face. the problem is that that's still a huge number. >> yeah. >> when we try to unpack this. and that's the challenge that law enforcement has and i think, again, it's that political correctness that continues to create challenges for us . >> and i'm afraid that in the instance of power plants and other sensitive vulnerable technologies in this country and critical technologies and infrastructure, we're not doing even the basic, which is of course to protect that infrastructure and those facilities. michael, jonathan, thank you both for being with us. we appreciate it. >> pleasure. >> greece once again asking for the european union's help. this time, though, it wants some help to fight fires that are raging on the out skirts of athens that have forced the evacuation of a number of vigils. greek fire officials say they have asked europe for help. they need fourior crafts to fight these fires. it doesn't quit, does it? 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>> i think it's great. i love the expressions on rand paul's face and rubio's face as he jets off along the deck there and chris christie just trying to get his way as quickly as he can. i think it's a brilliant cover. >> do you think, jamie, that this is some brilliant left wing messaging and all of this? what do you think of the cover? >> didn't i it's actually spot on in a way. you see all their faces. when you see their faces they're confused on how to react to donald trump, who is belly flopping into the pool. and i think that's relatable to actually what's going on here. because all these candidatings are dealing with someone that's not a presidential candidate. you can't attack him the same way you go after the other candidates. you don't know what to expect from him. so i think at it cover, i don't think it's a left wing attack, but it's exactly what's going on in the race right now. >> well, you know what's funny to me is the number of candidates who try to attack trump. i get the feeling that they don't even know where they're attacking on some level. they don't know how to deal with this guy. are you exciting about his candidacy? the first ever. >> well, i'm deferential intrigued by his involvement. i think that might be the gneiss way i can say it. >> you're talking about a republican front returner now. >> because he's bringing up a lot of issues. so many people in the base want to discuss the other candidates really aren't. i mean rand paul and ted cruz used to be in the spotlight all the time. >> ted cruz used to be considered a flame flower until the rival of donald trump and now he looks a little -- >> right. >> we have hardly heard anything from cruz or rand since they announced. so now trump is in and he's saying all the things that they kind of used to to say. ted cruz used to be the immigration guy and now trump has taken that over . >> but with y is it, jamie so difficult for the republican candidates to understand they're going to have to. they're going to have to if they're going to have to compete, they're going to have to talk to the american middle class. they're going to have to talk to the american working man and wam. have made going to have to talk to small business or they're going to be considered the biggest sellouts of the new century, and they're going another election. do you disagree? very trump has always said watching old videos that they're rich people very he has colleagues with they don't like him as he appealed to the taxi driver that is too wants to shake his he and but he is getting a lot of news about immigration but the biggest difference even with jeb bush if it isn't really policy eve than is chicago he said he is for a path. lou: there are some big hurdles. he ta about a wall i don't know another candidate who talks about a wall. heg straight up about the fact these trade policies are upside-down and he can do better. he is talking about working men and women to create prosperity not cutting taxes soar regulation but the mantra of all of these candidates. where are you? help me out. >> there isn't a great divide. >> he has his hat on. >> the device comes with what people all are willing to talk about but trump is talking about this. lou: thanks for being with us. that is it for us. goodnight from new york. >> i am here at freedom fest the world's biggest gathering of people and tonight's topic is the american dream still achievable? 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