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ESPRESO July 3, 2024

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I am quoting now, the memory of public figure victoria nerush the irreparable loss of yehor for a mother for a minority for the Tourist Museum community of chernihiv oblast. We all remember you in life as joyful, creative, hardy, capable of anything. Bright, bright memory of vitaly. Well, we will inform you about the most important things. Memory of all our soldiers who gave their lives for ukraine. Well, lets talk about now the situation is not simple in the kherson region. The occupiers hit the center of kherson today, again five people were injured, houses and cars were damaged. We will talk in more detail about the situation in kherson with oleksandr tolokonnikov, head of the press officer of the kherson Regional Military administration. Mr. Oleksandr, we welcome you. Glory to ukraine. Glory, good day. We would like to. To ask you to detail the information that came from the head of the kherson Regional Military administration , oleksandr prokudin, about todays attack the enemy, what are the consequences, so about an hour ago the russians hit with air bombs, probably now they are two guided air bombs, previously, which hit the center, in the middle of the city, in the center of kherson, as always there are no military facilities there, who knew kherson understands, a little we will give detailed information later, but at the moment we really have five victims, i think that the number of victims will most likely increase, unfortunately, and among them there is probably a 15yearold child, most of them are women who were either at home or near the house was located where insidious the russians dropped again. Er bomb, which also destroyed poverty houses, er, very damaged, er, and there are also victims, fortunately, so far without. Victims, lets hope that it will be so. And what is the enemy actively trying to bombard kherson with, is it using aviation for this purpose, is it artillery shelling, what type of weapons is the enemy using most often now . Well, these were guided aerial bombs, before that there were rockets, and there was also a hit about a week ago, the first hit was in the dnipro region, then after three days there, they would go there again. And yes, every day its artillery, this morning also artillery, the artillery fired hit the Apartment Building, the roof of the building, fortunately there were no casualties, but the roof of the Apartment Building was destroyed, in one of the districts also near the center, its artillery, mortars, fivi drones, they they are using the entire arsenal they have in kherson oblast, and this is not the first month already. Not the first year. Mr. Oleksandr, we would like to ask you about our bridgehead on the left bank of the dnieper. Ready, ask. What is the situation there now, how intense are the battles, yes, or now, perhaps, the enemy is preparing for some of his actions related to the forcing of the dnieper. I dont think they are preparing for it, because it is impossible to do. It requires a very large number of reserves, forces, means to force, and after that they, well, i am not a military expert, many of our military experts are now speaking of various different qualities, but being here i see that even if they somehow can with the drg there to force, then what, they need. Support, they need artillery, they need tanks, but simply so they wont cross the dnipro, so they have to cross overland, and thats why here in the kherson region they can only destroy civilian infrastructure, constantly terrorize the population, thats all they ve been doing, well, for more than a year and a half, against our fighters in the krynok district, they continue like this. To occupy the bridgehead, they are supported by our fighters on the right bank with artillery, drones, only thanks to these guys, those guys who are on the left left bank can continue this mission on an extremely difficult one, which can be called their chests, they cover right coast and continue to keep this plastdarm not only there, and even a low bow for doing it, because it really is what they are pulling. Fire on themselves and in this way give an opportunity to some people who live on the right bank so that fewer shells fly there. Mr. Oleksandr, we know that a few weeks ago our armed forces managed to liberate the island of nestryga, but it is also known that the enemy is trying to take this island back under their control again, do you know anything about your own the situation which is happening not far from this location, to be honest, there is no information of any kind official or reliable, i think there is more military command here, if there is something to talk about, they will comment, in addition to what i have already commented and what we know, you know and i know, and i, unfortunately, do not know anything, but if we are talking about life in kherson, in the kherson region, how is this life happening now, because. It is difficult to live, work in business, conduct some of your own affairs, so at a time when the city is constantly being shelled, and how in general people are already used to leading their lives under constant shelling, you know, i look at the people of kharkiv, i feel very sorry for the people, the people of kharkiv, who live now, but if we talk about kherson , then we have already been living in this for a year and a half, and we have already, as they say, unfortunately, er. Adapted to it under constant shelling, one day more, one day less, i just see people already walking in one direction, then there is an explosion of arrival, there is about 500 m from them, they just unfold, do not run nowhere, they just turn around, go in the other direction, that is, unfortunately, people are used to this terror, the business works like this, no one closes, these shelters. Which we have placed on the streets of the city more than 200 in kherson itself, help us a lot. Which people use at bus stops, if there is shelling, they immediately hide here. Because such shelters are more capital, you have to go to them, and this is not very relevant here in kherson, because no one pays attention to the majority of air alarms, everyone only listens if there is an arrival or departure from the left bank, an explosion is heard from the left bank, then people immediately hide, listen to where it will fly and then go back to their. Affairs, again business is working, it is mostly small business, and these are coffee shops, auto repair shops, shops, working, unfortunately, until now we cannot allow some more mediumsized, Large Businesses to open there, but farmers also sow seeds, thanks to our explosives, pyrotechnicians, sappers, who have already demined 40 of the right bank, our farmers have been given. To sow more there 170 00 sea coast and we are waiting for the harvest and it will be of course to raise our kherson economy. Thank you, mr. Oleksandr. Oleksandr tolokonnikov, head of the press office of the kherson Regional Military administration, was now in direct contact with us, so lets take a short break. After it, we will analyze an extremely important event, in particular, when we are talking about not just putins visit to china, but the entire visit. Russian delegation to the chinese capital, it will be interesting, wait for us. Tired of heavy and bulky saws, then unzipped strom saws are just for you. They will easily cut trees and bushes, they are convenient to use for carpentry work. This is an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 999. 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Selfcoronation and also refrained from attending the parade until may 9, and here now the whole putin clique or the whole putin flock has gone to beijing together, how important is this visit, how important is this visit and what can be at the end of it . Well you said it yourself it is putin who really considers this visit as very important, and the very fact. That almost the entire leadership of russia is going with him, with the newly appointed minister of defense, with the economic bloc, and with representatives of other authorities, shows how much this the visit is extremely important for russia, for putin. It is clear that putin wants to reaffirm the assurances of the agreement, which were his own. Concluded even before the start of a fullscale invasion about comprehensive cooperation between china and russia, and objectively speaking, it is thanks to china that if we are talking about the state of the russian economy and its fighting capacity, it was thanks to china that russia managed to stay afloat, therefore, based on these quite understandable pragmatics. These understandable reasons, this visit is undoubtedly extremely important for them. Mr. Igor, look, today the russian dictator again began to promote the topic of negotiations with ukraine and the west, he tried, in fact, to repeat the narrative that he spoke about earlier, that the status quo must be preserved, that is, no one is going to withdraw the troops , well, actually, on the eve of the summit swiss, which will take place in the middle. In june, this statement looks, you know, to me, as a certain signal to us that the russians, if they will conduct any negotiations, will only do so on the terms they want. Do you think that in beijing russia and china will coordinate their position regarding this format of negotiations, and it is with this position formed in beijing, if china agrees to be at the summit, it will go and represent. The position they will agree on is quite possible quite possibly that will happen, and well, the position of china is actually not very different from the russian position, and because there are all these freezing of conflicts and some longterm negotiations and solutions under the condition that everything remains status quo, it is not much different from the russian one, but. I think, yes, i think that a lot of attention will be paid to this topic, and it is obvious that china will go already charged and will go, at least with an understanding of how russia sees this situation, how this position will be completely copy russian, i cant say, most likely no, i think china will insist. On its principles, on its own, on its peace plan, but, as i said, there are not many differences, and we also understand that now china does not publicly support russia so directly, but there are already numerous facts that indicate that china supplies russia with certain machines, yes, and actually helps russia in this war, on the other hand, we also understand that china is interested. In economic relations with europe, and it is important whether it is at all realistic for us, for us, i mean for us, ukrainians and our to european partners, some such model for. War and such conditions should be drawn up so that this war would become unprofitable for china, in fact, so that it would stop supporting russia, and accordingly , china still did not promote such a peaceful idea, which is very similar to the russian one. Well, how can you say, in principle chinas strategy is clear, if for it the United States of america is an adversary, it is clearly not a partner. The key task of china is to separate europe from the United States of america as much as possible, so lets just say that the route of xia zhenpins visit to europe was quite quite eloquent, yes, that is, france, which has long been agitating, as it were, in the front. For the strengthening of the role of europe, aa within the framework of the possible coming to power in the United States of america of donald trump, who deals with isolationism, and this is in the hands of china. Another thing is that in response the europeans wanted to see some shifts in the chinese position, but we havent seen it yet, or at least. From what is known, we have not heard, that is, china will remain, remains on its positions, we did not hear any changes to this public position during the meeting with macron, and therefore, china will trying to separate politics from the economy as much as possible is a big question, especially now, we see the United States of america already imposing new sanctions, or there. Imposing new customs rules on chinese products, and, lets say, indirect sanctions , which they apply to chinese banks, for example, yes, which work with russia, and we have already seen some certain effect, eh, that is, we should obviously count on the fact that this whole strategy of interaction with china will be a method. And and gingerbread, that is, on the one hand, introduction indirect sanctions, on the other hand, an attempt to convince xijianping that further rapprochement with moscow will only harm chinese interests. Well, yes, its a questionable questionable strategy, but so far i dont see any other signals that this strategy, or that a new strategy has appeared that. Would be more effective, well, look, i ve heard this interpretation of the position china, we understand that china, during the fullscale russian invasion of russia, well, china was counting on the socalled putin blitzkrieg, that is, they were not going to to play the long game, well, and accordingly, now beijing and, in particular , xi jinping can ask putin a question, maybe it will not go into the public space about. But the terms of the end of the war, well, putin can ask xi jinping, how long are you going to fight with ukraine, how long are you can prevent us from implementing our economic projects, because the visit to hungary, serbia, and finally to france, you, as you rightly noted, is not about politics, but about the continental economy and certain continental transport communication routes, so we understand that there are greek ports, there is. Accordingly, so to speak, a favorable atmosphere in serbia and in hungary, which would allow the implementation of certain crossborder highways, for example, and so on, and so on, i i think that there are actually much more cases, well,

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