And only ships that can stay in a remote area for a long time should operate there, eh, that is, have the appropriate qualities of cloudborne, well, its Stormy Weather and so on, drones wont do it, and by the way, our corvettes wont do it either, at most, cowbirds will be able to be well in the mediterranean sea, they are small ships, so that we understand, and i do not rule out that in the future we will still need frigates, one or two to serve as part of such units, plus antimine minesweepers, which are actually there are, and which ones will perform such tasks as part of the nato special antimine detachment, he is constantly active, he is constantly at all exercises that were held at the invitation of ukraine in the sys series in the black sea. They constantly participated and constantly carried out combat trawling, that is, they were looking for time mines during the last war, they were always found, it was not always written about, but it is a fact, after this war, especially after the kakhovskaya platina was blown up, well, i do not know how many mines ended up in the black sea, far from the theater of hostilities, not only mines, which , lets put it this way, bottom mines, which, well. They lie on the bottom , moved this and that, and those that were anchor mines, they were torn from their anchors, and from time to time they are found near the coast of romania, near the coast of bulgaria, turkey, and we certainly do not forget about remote mining, which the Russian Federation seems to be engaged in, in order to make it difficult for us in every possible way for civil shipping, where we are interested in it, from the ports of great odessa, according to the countries. Which need our grain and not only, i thank you very much, but you are absolutely right, i cannot disagree with you, it is very nice, thank you, mr. Volodymyr, thank you for such a professional comment, it is worth its weight in gold, volodymyr zablotskyi, defense express naval expert, and retired captain first rank, has been in touch with us, we will now take a short break, true, and lets remember what happened 10 years ago, what is happening right now in the Russian Federation and, unfortunately, in ukraine. Crimea is the same, and there they are electing putin again, everything, everything, everything they know how to do, see you in a few minutes. Bosnia and herzegovina, ukraine namego. The victory will allow to play in the match for qualification to euro2024. Therefore, our team needs your support. Cheer on march 21 at 9 45 p. M. Together. 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From the point of view, if it is considered as some kind of democratic procedure, it is funny, but from the point of view of the occupation, it is not funny, and because they are this dust, they let it in their eyes for quite a long time, and some in the west, especially the agents are venal or just like that lefties they believe i remember how immediately after the socalled referendum , a tenyearold strangeness, mustafa dzhemileyev said that he declared. About 34 of those who are registered as voters in crimea went to this election, and we remember that there are dead souls there voted , everything else, but even in ukraine at that time, not everyone believed mustafa dzhemilev, because there was such a myth that in crimea, everyone there is much more with russia, and even some people supposedly patriotically said, well, they are all russians there. This is not true, this is a lie, and then the atp tv channel has data, we can show it to whomever, a few minutes before the closing of the socalled polling stations , our film crew filmed, there were transparent ballot boxes, and it was clear that the data that the participants said there, the socalled election commission, and what was simply seen there is three times less. The days of these urns, and this, this is all documented, and we constantly refute this myth, but he, he lives in reality, in many and helps them, well, actually fool the world in their favor, now everything is more difficult, but still they have something it works, you know what i wanted to say, to point out, christ, why , despite all the appeals there, even there by navalnys wife, who says, dont recognize him as the president , he killed my husband, then. That he, well, in general, in principle, well, this the only sensible thing she said during all this time, yes , but we see that the west is jumping, jumping on the rake, just like all the past times have passed, that is , the past president ial elections, i am the socalled russian russians, i heard exactly this kind of rhetoric, there is the west, well, put the united states, germany, the European Union there, no recognizes you. The president of the Russian Federation in the occupied territories of ukraine, that is, in fact, if we translate it from diplomatic, such political language into normal, we recognize putin as the officially elected president of the Russian Federation, period , such wording can never mislead because this means, yes to us, we cannot say that these elections are fair and even the head. Charles michel of the council of europe wrote the following ironic, ironic post i would like to congratulate Vladimir Putin on his convincing victory in the elections that start today without opposition, without freedom, without choice, its so beautiful, like some humorists performance there, probably there, if you still smile in some place, but in fact it means the political inability of the west to face the truth and say, well, they faced the truth , when lukashenkos last election was held and they said no, you are already illegally elected president , we do not consider you the elected president , we consider another person elected, but you. No, not illegitimate, but in the case of putin, there is fear, and this is evident simply by the way they react in advance, recognize these elections , that is, it is an absolute lie, just in essence a lie in form is just hypocrisy, but in essence it is a lie, i explain very simply in russia , in the elections of the socalled president , there is a single, first and only district, the federal so called , simply to which the occupied , temporarily occupied ukrainian territories were added, in this way it is impossible to separate the votes that they draw or receive there from the general population, that is, this is the same deception of the west, you already say, or you it is illegitimate and and period, yes or you, well, that is, it is impossible , it is just, well, how hypocritical, i thought, i hoped so somewhere, i had a percentage that this time. They will say, well, it is enough to pretend that he is legitimate, no, old rake, and all actions are completely fake, as it was, unfortunately, when there were last elections, in fact, the west could use this , if they had a real interest in not recognizing putin as the legitimate president of the Russian Federation, the ukrainian regions are included in that , which is now called russian the constitution, could become. Such a poison needle in a good sense for us, and in the end we can already talk about the fact that your constitution is toilet paper, you wrote the hell out of it, if only some maldives would join you, dear nonrespectable ones, you are absolutely right, christ, this should have become a lever of influence, a lever of recognition of illegitimacy, and now putin is like that, he is a bandit, he says, you are again. You are telling me something about occupied territories, that is, this is mine all i took its mine, yes, but democracy is always limited, and we have it in the constitution, our actions correspond, but what about us, but now we have martial law, and we have a president , political leadership, and terms of office, and what about the constitution, and is it possible to go to the Constitutional Court for clarification, and democracy, even as young as ours , is really limited, you know what, i have an idea, i dont know, maybe. Someone will hear us, maybe not , but i think that it is not necessary to wait for the reaction of the west, it is never anything, well, so far it is so conditional for him, pearl harbor did not happen, they will not change anything in their attitude towards putin, they will condemn, they will be there, i dont know, say something, but de facto, or rather de jure, they will recognize him as the president of the socalled Russian Federation, well, for future negotiations of some kind there, for some contracts there, although it is understandable. Absolutely, that no one will believe putins signature under any contract and no one will become a real mediator and guarantor in this, so ukraine may have to take such a step for based on the results of these elections, the step is very simple, to submit to some international court, institution, i dont know, our lawyers, maybe in the ministry of Foreign Affairs more clearly, well, definitely more clearly, about the recognition of Vladimir Putin as illegitimate. The head of state due to the fact that in his elections , socalled, the votes of ukrainians living in the territories occupied by russia, which are not legally recognized as russian territories, were taken into account , and because of this, through a legal procedure, judicial or judicial or any, to be recognized as illegitimate him, as a representative of the socalled russia, well a little about how the socalled elections take place. Of the president of the Russian Federation in crimea, about how all this is happening against the background of successive waves, detentions and oppression of representatives of the crimean tatar people, just ukrainians who continue to live in crimea, trying to lead a banal everyday life. All this is the focus of our attention with gyana yuksel, journalist, member of the majelis of the crimean tatar people. Gayana, we welcome you. Glory to ukraine. Glory to heroes. Good day. Salam aleikum. What do we know about the voting process in crimea from my sources, state employees, as always, are chased away, they are demanded to arrange almost photo shoots of bulletins. With ticks for the recommended candidate, we understand who we are talking about, well, more intelligent people take pictures and put a few more ticks there in parallel, in this way, hoping that the ballot will be damaged, not counted and so on, but in the end, when it interfered with the Russian Federation to act as they usually act and not take something into account, i want to ask mrs. Gayana what is the official position of the crimean tatar midjlis of the people and it is necessary to publicly lament , maybe it was already published, i just did not notice what people in the occupied territories should do with these socalled elections, how to react to them, and what to do, or not to do anything . Please, thank you for the question , well, in fact, the position of the midjlis has not changed during the 10 years of occupation, if you remember, on march 15, on the eve of the socalled crimean referendum, which you mentioned in your speech, the midjlis made an appeal to everyone, to everyone. Residents of crimea regardless of nationality, no participate in an illegal referendum. During the 10 years of occupation, unfortunately , elections were held there, there were also elections for president putin, because this is not the election of the president , the Russian Federation, the next election of president putin, just like now, there were also local elections, and the position of the majlis in this context remains unchanged, in no case do not participate in these illegal. Them, because the territory is occupied, the territory is not recognized, and in fact the conduct of illegal actions, not recognized by ukraine and the world, in the occupied territory is a crime, is a reason for to consider the candidates and the elected candidate illegitimate, so i think that there will be clarifications in the near future, and in principle they are, but the position remains unchanged in any case. Take part, huh, ms. Gayano, and tell me, please , lately we have been monitoring, well, just a colossal deprivation of Russian Special services, specifically russian, very often driven to crimea, because the locals at one point stopped somehow coping with their repressive functions, those local people who agreed to cooperate in this way with the occupier, and we are now seeing a huge number of searches, acting. Mainly based on our observations as well, on religious grounds, on national, ethnic features and affiliations, and what are they trying to lean towards, or what are they trying to push when we are talking in general about the crimean tatar people, both in crimea, and those who remained, and those who are now carrying out on the territory of free ukraine, what is called representation, popular representation within. The borders of the ukrainian state, they have nothing to do do not want, they want to once again intimidate , frighten, once again emphasize their position, here you understand what the question is, i was recently on the air, which was dedicated to such a sad date as the 10 years of the occupation of crimea, and there they asked if it was possible to single out any waves in the repression against the Crimean Tatars, well actually waves or stages. It is difficult to call it what has been observed over the past 10 years, it is constant pressure, constant repression against the Indigenous People of ukraine, precisely for their position, precisely for the position of not recognizing crimea as russian. But what it is important that against the background of a fullscale invasion, pressure and repression intensified. Well, first of all, the mobilization, the illegal mobilization, which was announced in russia, and accordingly crimea, as a de facto, is located. Something under the control of the Russian Federation fell for this event, it led to mass migration from crimea. Now we are told the figure of 50,000 Crimean Tatars who have left the territory of crimea for 10 years, i want to say that no such studies have been conducted, and in principle, they are now impossible, because we are simply de facto not we have access to the occupied territory. But if thats the case, thats just a terrible number. 300,000 representatives of the crimean tatar people lived in crimea, and now, if 50,000 have already left crimea, and pay attention, young people are leaving, whole, young people who are not afraid of new conditions, new, so to speak, circumstances, then this is simply a terrible number , and besides, against the background of a fullscale invasion, the last two years, in principle, it was. In the crimea, but now, what exactly, stoking, denunciations, er, various popular movements on like the crimean smersh, and crimea before. Was already created on such, you know, a small model of the soviet union in 1937 in this context, i. E. Complete snooping, denunciations against the Crimean Tatars for everything, not only for their civic position, not only for their activities, or there are thoughts, for music that people use, for symbols, for various mentions of historical figures that are related so or . From the history of ukraine, i. E. There is pressure and repression for everything, and the second main feature, they are now going with arrests, roundups, and searches of those who they, well, conditionally speaking, conditionally speaking , for eight years were clinging, but not so much, now here they have intensified all this again, they came to the crimean tatar lawyers, to emil kurbedinov, to civil. Journalists ludvia zudieva, they come constantly and now this has increased to the representatives of the royal system and the mijlis and dudakovs dem, and other representatives are again pressuring and carrying out repressions in relation to the heads of religious communities, because who is the head of a religious community in themselves, yes, in leaders, these are leaders, these are people who are capable around himself to gather people and. We have very little time left, but i have to ask this, the russians have also revived some Information Campaign about the fact that, look, in fact, the crimean tatar people, they are with us, they are completely satisfied with the russian occupation, and even, they even record some videos , supposedly from which mouth, supposedly a representative of the crimean tatar people, because i do not know for sure, support for the russian occupier is heard. These are, lets say, single cases of sales that happen and among ukrainians, and among, in principle, this is a normal situation during the war, unfortunately, are these rare, as they say, people who pretend to be Crimean Tatars, well, the fact that russian propaganda is working there at full speed, so to speak, on full engines and full percentages , its normal,