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M. , watch the Collaborators Program with Olena Kononenko on the espresso tv channel. Premium sponsor of the National Team represents united by football, stronger together. We return, here is still the mornings riddle, because herr scholz says again that he wont give tauruses, because he wont give them, because hes afraid that, what, what, hes like that again, you know, hes afraid, and i think that no, i think he has a photo of the young frau merkel in his bedroom, then he looked at the komsomol woman once again and said, no, id rather not give it, and i. I dont know, maybe, maybe thats not the reason, i feel like that for some reason so it seems, and we will now ask about it, and not only about it, from our next guest, an aviation expert, the leading researcher of the state aviation museum, valery romanenko, is with us, mr. Valery, good morning, good morning, what are they with those tauruses . And others tell us the same thing, taurus, stormshadow, and. Then others tell us, no, taurus, this is a completely different weapon, there are no analogs, as putin likes to say, so what so in your opinion, this story with the tauruses, which we still dont have, has been playing out for a long time we need them so much, as they say, the crimean illegal bridge, well, it is precisely for this bridge that they are needed, and the fact that they are not given to us, well, this is a purely political decision, because. Actually, what is the difference between stormshadow and taurus in range, and storm shadow or scalp 300 km, taurus 400 km. The charge there, well , it differs minimally by a few tens of kilograms, is practically similar , lets say, for the destruction of fortifications, that is, a tandem charge, the first part of which punches a hole, then the main charge flies in there and explodes already inside, so if we got these taurus, then the first in the support of the crimean bridge, which means that the first charge would have punched a hole, and the main charge in. Would have already hit the support of the crimean bridge, and the issue with this bridge would have been solved once and for all, because the span that fell, its it is impossible to raise it, it will have to be cut into scrap metal and a new one made, but here it is somehow strange, because germany came out as one of the european leaders in supporting ukraine and they give a wide variety of weapons, and here suddenly it rested exclusively on the taurus, Everything Else that we received, ourselves were surprised by germans and the great soviet union. Why exactly is taurus like that in scholzs head, because he is the only one against everyone , he already has powerful factions, and the opposition is putting pressure on him, well, this is already a psychological problem, it is not a military or aviation problem, please tell me, mr. Valery, now a little more lets talk about something else, we watched the whole fierce drought, and it already looks like we have minus 3 a50 in russia, did you have a chance . In fact, after such blows, this a50 is still in good condition, can it still function, but what is known at the moment about their losses . About losses two planes are known to have been completely destroyed with their crews shot down. All other options are damaged planes, damaged in belarus on september 22, it seems, the 22nd year, and there is also a damaged plane in the hangar, the only thing that is interesting here is if you compare the pictures of the airfield and, well, the factory site near, well sites where a50 aircraft are concentrated for repair, then compare. Satellite images for february 29, for february 29 and march 8, yes , it can be seen that if the russians had not removed one of the planes, it could be safely called the third destroyed , clearly expressed there such a hit exactly at the place where the a50 plane was standing there, and how can we find out, mr. Valery, look who we heard from, from the shelter, who says that it was destroyed there by my drones, well, that is, damaged, then from Deputy Honcharenko we also heard this, but these are not the sources after which we say, we can quote them, but we do not have a guarantee that we will tell our viewers 100 such damage, and we cannot say so, because there were hits on the hangar and there were hits itself to the workshop of the plant, that is, we cannot say that the plane was destroyed we can, but if he. Was in the hangar, there in the corner of the hangar, there was only a hit in the hangar, well , if you look from above, in a normal way , north is up there, but there, lets say, in the southwestern corner there is a hit, and of course, when they hit the workshop, yes, something also fell on the plane, but to what extent it was damaged, it is difficult to say, but in general , the situation is such that we can clearly talk about the destruction of. Two planes, Everything Else is repairable, but when they are, it will be repaired, how and if the russians get a sufficient quantity components, because these airplanes, they are intel inside, they have all western equipment, western microelectronics, microprocessors, there are gate matrices, all that, so the microcircuits are western, yes, and they are critically dependent. From the supply of all these components, how long the repair will last, actually depends on this moment. Mr. Valery, well, we understood what course ukraine took, i. E. 1 for 50, minus the second and the first to the third, or if it is possible to at least damage all that they have a50s, eh, what will it give us, what do they have will take and in general, do they keep all these planes in. Accessibility for our aviation, for our artillery, for our drones, or will we be able to hit them all, im talking about distances, we wont be able to, because. They are far away, they are in the east of the moscow region, the airfield ivanovonorthern , there are at least seven operational planes there, well maybe six, there, so there are usually a couple of them , well, in local service, yes, but at least four planes, they are able to use them, but the situation is there, well, we need to look at the situation a little on the other hand, so look, the first plane was there was destroyed at a distance of 120. From the front line, the second at a distance of 220. What does this mean that the russians, if they do not want losses, must carry patrol routes another 100 km or 7080 km deep into their territory to the rear, yes from this distance , these a50s will not see anything, because their equipment works effectively at a distance of 300 km, here is the main question, we will not be able to destroy them, but we will make it impossible to use them, in my opinion, we have already succeeded in this , well, let them fly there into the depths of the siberian ruts, the main thing is not to close to ukraine, and im talking about some other planes, because the biggest thing that bothers us now and the biggest thing that russias militaryindustrial complex is currently developing is improving guided air bombs, we already see that they are changing modules, we see that it is the heaviest they are trying to make it actually passive winged. And that already has more than a ton of warheads, the cabs are the most terrible thing now both on the front line and in the frontline territories, we were explained, the only thing is that they are f16s that pound on planes that fly up to launch cabs at a distance of 5070 km to the affected area, and so on our story with the f16 begins to wander, because it resembles some stupid quarter number 95, then f6. We are preparing, everything is ready, the Aviation Coalition is here, spring will come, it will be, we will fly , spring has come, we are told that the crews are ready, the Technical Services are preparing, but in the 16th they will not be in the spring, but in the summer, and now they tell us, well, somewhere not the fact that in the summer, and in the middle, in july, and not that 46, as we promised, or 45, but only six, well, why does it all turn from such a winged coalition of support for ukraine into some. Such a ridiculous story, was for such a song from soviet times , spring has come, summer has come, thanks to the party for this, it reminds me a little, so, first of all, statesmen at the level of president s told us about the deliveries of aircraft, about what we receive, yes, and the military, american, highranking military, that we are getting planes. In june, so far the New York Times newspaper says, i just wouldnt pay much attention to it, they already write in july, well, in july, yes, even if they write what they want, you know, well, you have to wait for the official reaction, then draw conclusions and somehow, it means there, either to panic, or there, it means to be killed by grief , yes, so far the situation is ours, yes, they should finish in a month, they have to. The first group in denmark should finish their studies, sometime before june the second group from the United States, by september the third group from the United States, in total more than 20 pilots should arrive in ukraine, a fullfledged brigade, there, well, if 24 men, a fullfledged brigade, two squadrons, yes, that s why we will, for now we will dont rely on the rumors spread by new york. On the official information, it has not changed yet, we will be given as many planes as we give, as many statesmen promised, the only thing, the only problem may be that now, well, all the time there were negotiations about what equipment should be installed on these planes, such such equipment as was on those planes that were in the service of donor countries, well , it. Is already a little outdated, if it is possible to renew the equipment, then you can wait until june, because the better the equipment, the better the chances in we have to gain some local advantage in air battles mr. Valery, and then the ukrainian patriots who were handed over to us will not be under such a threat of damage or destruction, but when will the f16 appear in the ukrainian sky . Are we even going to be able to manage to move them somewhere closer to the front line . We will move, i think, we will use the f16. Because now the ground forces, on which our state depends, yes, the existence of the state itself, are now under the influence of these russian cabs, the weight of which now reaches 1. 5 tons, that is why it is necessary to protect them in the first place, here i i think that everything will be applied, well, even if we lost two launchers, but we also shot down several dozen enemy planes, so it was a battle for a battle, if you compare the prices, then it seems that it is not known who won and who lost, although it is not yet certain, that the russians really destroyed the elements of the patriot complexes, but now the problem of the countrys existence is the protection of our troops on the front lines, which are now restraining the russian offensive, and the russians are trying to break through this offensive as they did in avdiiv. Im not an expert, but i already wear glasses got heated, rewatched dozens of times this video, which was made public allegedly with the destruction of one of the launchers, patriot, i still did not understand, it is still a launcher, or it is one of the logistics machines that deliver shells, well, no. It is clear from this video which of the parts of this one, because this is the whole patriot battery, took part, you have written there that this is a c300 machine of the c300 complex, only that the picture was, no, but im not talking about this picture, im about this picture, you know what video im talking about, now its simple show, i am talking about the video allegedly the first video confirmation of the destruction of the patriot system, so the russians trumpeted this video. And you , well, how can you, for example, check and know whether it is a disabled logistics machine or a launcher, and whether we can replace it, that is, our American Partners only gave us batteries, or, for example, if if one or two machines are disabled, you can get exactly two other launchers or logistics machines in exchange, for example. Lands were transferred we just have two launchers without a complex, yes, yes, ah, the main thing in this complex is the guidance radar, it is the most expensive component of this complex, launchers, well, in the United States there are more than a thousand launchers for the patriot complex, this is only in the United States states, and they are also in almost all nato countries, and in japan, and in general, i think that on. It will be possible to replace the loss, even if we suffered more problems in the russians, yes, because they have the production of combat aircraft pada, and they su34x lost 10 in 10 days of the total number of these planes in the combat composition of their air forces, yes, but if you look at the very highprofile things that they want to highlight, then of course there were two abrams, one way or another it was in the figure. These two cars from patriot and one highmars were featured , allegedly his beech, well, we dont know if it was a beech, but it was destroyed, this video was also circulating on the network, we saw it, yes, yes, on a highmars, and in this case immediately a large number of our publications also appeared and it is shown how we have pseudo, you know these layouts, which are also uptodate and wooden. In my opinion, the iron ones are being soldered somewhere in akhmetov, that is, tell us, nonspecialists, how to look at it, because if there is a babaha, for example, a zerk beech, then it gives an explosion anyway, and it is not clear here, we got are they in the mockup or did they get into real equipment, is there any hint . Yes, no, there, to be honest, when they, for example, hit the complex on. Once on the launch pad, but not on the complex , on the launch pad, you could see how the rockets flew away, so there was clearly an explosion and repeated explosions, that was it nasams was easy there distinguish by eye in another there are six more and there were six rockets there, the principle is that i say yes that first the main explosion yes and then several when there was a bombardment and the combat part of the rockets here was one. The explosion in this video, as far as i understand, yes, as far as i remember this video, i looked there, i tried to really identify, from the outside it does not look like a launcher, because there it is. There are three, so the launcher is the central one the cabin, then the energy and communication unit, and then the missile launchers themselves, but for each of these machines there was another some block that shouldnt have been there , yes, that is, you need to, you know, tell the russians that they need better camera work, well, actually , there was no additional detonation either, yes , sir, there was no, so lets see, i dont think so , that. Someone from our military will officially comment on the losses lost or not lost, but for now this is a controversial issue. Mr. Valery, we have two minutes to talk about the nasams that canada was supposed to give us, we have been waiting for about a year now, because it turns out that not enough funds from the states came for these this, on this nasems, that now it is possible to somehow speed up the process, well, everyone is on their own. For us, this is an additional unit that can reduce losses, well, the minister of defense of canada writes that we did not receive your letter where you asked about money, yes, so, well, do you remember the classics, yes, so what is the question financial, if the americans pay for the production of these nasams, then canada will willingly hand them over, yes, as if they are already ready, and. What we cannot buy with our own money, we are given a sufficiently financial option that we can just take the money, buy everything, and then the americans will give it back, this is a matter for the Relevant Department of the ministry of defense , i tell you as it was reported, but canada in general could pay the debt itself and transfer it, but there are not such already crazy money, lets say it straight, ugh, its not the billion that the patriot costs, its at least 10 times cheaper, and even more, thats why the question is, so, rather, id say, its not even military, it is a political issue, there is desire, there are finances, there is, therefore, well, of course, military procurement is a very bureaucratized procedure both in them, and especially in us, but now there are such objective reasons that it is impossible to put it on loan or in some other way. I dont see perhaps the question there is that the United States did not add any important components to it, well, this is a possible question, but it is not voiced, the question is still being said about the financial component, of course, mr. Valery, thank you for the conversation, for participating in our broadcast, valery romanenko, aviation expert and the leading researcher of the state museum of aviation, was with us, well, when you talk to an aviation expert, immediately according to the canons of