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ESPRESO July 4, 2024

States into its provinces, ordinary ones, because it did not need this statehood, its just was a gift, so to speak, from the emperor, another ally of some kind there, and with belarus, i think that when lukashenkos term in office, or his physical life, ends, russia can simply annex belarus, join it to itself, and that will basically be the end of the history of belarusian statehood, well , some part of it may be nominal. A state where there will be nothing belarusian, even the way it was in the times of the soviet union will not exist, and the same should be expected of ukraine, when putin was going to install yanukovych and medvedchuk here, i think, then transfer power yanukovych, i even believe that he could agree to the existence of such a reduced loyal ukraine, but only until the moment it is needed. Medvedchuk, this is such a gift, you will have a ukrainian kingdom, thats it, and when there is no putin and no medvedchuk, then this part of the union state will simply hold some kind of session, im sorry, not every thai, allrussian, some kind of assembly of peoples representatives, and you will inform then about the unification of all these three states into one, a very simple program, and therefore the russians will not stick to the chinese proposal, they will fight as much from their point of view as it takes to destroy itself. Ukraines opportunity for independent state development. Ugh. And ukraine is no longer needed between the west and russia, because it was a mistake of the bolsheviks to leave such ukraine. And they already understood that when you leave her like that, she starts kicking later. And putin says absolutely clearly that he wants to correct the mistakes of the bolsheviks, who created all these Union Republics in the first place. And you have to understand that putin has been thinking this way since the 90s. 20th century, there is nothing new here, i think, i told you that i heard for the first time these thoughts that ukraine should leave the soviet union without gifts from the bolsheviks in 1991, he was anatoly sobchaks political teacher, who came here to kyiv at the head of a delegation of the Union Parliament to find out our intentions, and there it all sounded from him, all these ideas of our compatriots with you, that it happened in 2022, that. In the 13th year, the fourth year, but if we, yes so to speak, they breathed evenly and did not insult putin, then none of this would happen, it is an amazing childish illusion, because it was never thought that this state in this territory should last for long, it was just choosing the most opportune moment to destroy it, as putin said, now we know from this book, the last politician, the director of tzer robert burrus. Now is the best time to destroy the ukrainian state, because in his opinion Volodymyr Zelenskyis government has shaken the state institutions so that they will not be able to intervene, which was a wrong assessment, by the way, if we look at the first place war, because there wont be, there is no obvious european leadership and no one will be able to read, so putin had absolutely clear ideas about what will happen to him. Uh, its easy in this situation, hes like a predator, if he sees, that the victim is getting weaker, we just have to finish this story, if it had not happened on the 22nd, putin would have said that maybe we are not as weak there as he thought, then it happened on the 23rd, 24th, 25th , it does not matter, it is still an inevitable process, just as the process with crimea was inevitable, because we are talking about 2000 er. The 14th year as something extraordinary, but russia was preparing a special operation for the annexation of crimea back in 1994, when. There was a prorussian president mishkov, a government made up of citizens of the Russian Federation, a president ial Administration Made up of citizens of the Russian Federation, the moskovskii era, it was some kind of game, and where was putin, where was putin, there was no putin, putin was in st. Petersburg, and before that the Verkhovna Rada of the Russian Federation passed a resolution on the russian status of sevastopol, ukrainians ignored all this, because for the vast majority of them, the capital even then was in moscow. It wasnt in it then, but then it was still in moscow, and they just thought that it was all there, well, what does it matter where this crimea is, well, because we were in the same state, in the cis, for only two years, well and it didnt seem like a threat, and when the war started, when we already felt like a real state, it was certainly perceived much more acutely by many people, especially those who grew up with no alternative. That there is ukraine and they were never in the soviet union, and those who were perceive it differently too, they with disappointment, and not with surprise, that how come, they were all together, and then suddenly they kill us, so these are all completely understandable processes, and from that point of view, i say again, china simply does not understand this, that for russia this is not a story about statehood, but maybe he understands, he pretends, do you remember this ambassador of china in france said that. The former soviet republics have limited sovereignty, well, he said it out loud, well , that is, you should not think that a person in such a position is just a bit of a slob and talks just all she wanted to say was such a signal, a cautious approach, that you will understand how we look at it, that we also think that this is not up to the state, but we cannot say it at a high level, so let the ambassador say , we will refute it, but the signal was obvious, the west heard it. This is also an important point. Mr. Vitaly, you said that russia, when it wants to ultimately seize the former soviet republics, can go to the beheading, yes, or remove the nominal leader. Belarus is lukashenko, but this one last week there was an attempt on the president of ukraine and the Prime Minister of greece in odesa. Is it something similar, or are there completely different motives . Well, look, russia really is. Nurtured and will expect that after may 2024 it will be possible to resort to certain destabilizing actions, saying that the president of ukraine has exhausted his powers, is an illegitimate president , there is no legitimate power, and she will also work with this story, that is why i believe , that by and large we would need a clear explanation of the Constitutional Court regarding this situation and so on, so that there were not even any opportunities to put. Sad about the legitimacy of the authorities after 2000 may 2024, but on the other hand we clearly understand, and i am surprised that many of our compatriots do not realize this, that the simplest method of solving this problem is the physical elimination of the president , the more convenient in the situation , when he seems to have constitutionally exhausted powers, that is, to connect this propagandist. A campaign with real action, because imagine that the president of ukraine dies during such an attempt, well, this means that while performing the duties of the president , he becomes the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, but again, look at the Verkhovna Rada, there are already not enough votes in the majority, so they are there this week under the pretext that they cannot, they have to go to the front and look at the dugouts , they are not working, we understand that this is. Just a profit, they simply do not have enough people, and this is also, first of all, by and large , already a demonstration of the crisis, now imagine the situation , simple the president dies, and the Verkhovna Rada cannot elect an acting president because it does not have the necessary quorum for this. Ugh. What do all institutions look like . No way, a collapse is a collapse. You can of course form. The Supreme Council of national salvation, it will assume powers, but it will not be a constitutional body, it will be some extraordinary body, it is not clear for what period, the allies will start saying there that we should hold elections, but we will not understand how to hold them, the russians will try to identify any offensive, some military actions, some missile strikes, to prevent us from lifting martial law even for a month, that is, this is a direct road to destabilization and i. I think they will not do that, first of all, this missile strike, it is not just an attack that i dont think it was a specific attack that they thought they were going to get into it, its a. A signal, uh, one of the first signals that they might do it, so its actually not not an attempt, but rather blackmail, because before even we did not think that they could to strike in this way during a stay in odesa or in kyiv or in the dnipro, anywhere, a representative of another. Of the state, not the representative , the head of kyriakos mitsetas, the Prime Minister of greece, that is, there were shellings, but they were shellings that allowed one or another official to move to a bomb shelter, and western and not only western leaders spent hours in this bomb shelter , and for a long time, as you remember, putin shelled kyiv when there was a delegation of the African Union here, and the president was in the bomb shelter of the republic of south africa , Cyril Ramaphosa and his colleagues, but you understand the difference, it is one thing when there is an air alert and you know for sure that the safety of the persons with whom you can speak there yourself will be ensured, or that the ukrainian side is responsible for their safety , that you did not lead them to safety during the rocket fire, lets say. On the spot, you remember, president stanmayya was even in a bomb shelter in one of the ukrainian villages, yes, but it was an air alert, here the same shelling was such that he did not give possibilities, ballistics, yes, it was ballistics, in principle, the Prime Minister of greece had no way to avoid death, if this missile had hit 500 m closer, what is 500 m for a ballistic missile, well, i think so, so it signal. That we can act like this, it does not mean that another attempt of such an attempt will not take place tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, there may be other signals, but here i am, when i analyze it, i am always surprised by our people who discuss the ratings and chances of candidates , as if, firstly, as if in we will actually have elections in the near future, in the coming years, i would say, and it seems like they are. Live in a peaceful country and as if they understand that there is a high probability that both certain candidates and certain voters will not survive the new president ial and parliamentary elections in ukraine, i apologize, this is war, war is characterized by the physical destruction of potential participants in the elections, and those who are on the ballots and those who will vote, and this too must be understood, as the main factor in elections is called death, Everything Else is not. The main factor in the election, People Living in war have to take the word death as a real political category, as a category that will determine their future in the years to come, because if people in war forget about death, they cannot even decide how they survive, life becomes a ghost when you dont remember death, thats why i always encourage you to remember death during war, every day, dont relax even for a minute, you will forget, you will die, and this is very important. Important point, i think it should be as such a demonstration of sobriety, you know, well , youre sober living in such a country, because if you dont live sober, then you get information that it turns out that putin was preparing to use Nuclear Weapons, as we talked about it, then you panic, and what do you thought, this is also the same as with the big attack, what did you think that putin could not use Nuclear Weapons against ukraine, maybe, maybe . Therefore it is necessary to hold him by the hands, by the feet, therefore it is necessary to create this strategic uncertainty so that this decision, which i am sure of for a long time adopted as an opportunity was not implemented, is putin ready to use Nuclear Weapons, in itself yes, the answer is positive, so ready, is it possible to get it from this, yes it is possible, there are chances, they are not absolute, and this is also a huge task of world politics, diplomacy, contacts with china and india, so that a Nuclear Attack on. Was carried out on the territory of a nonnuclear state, because after that the whole life of the world will change, because if the world every country wants to become nuclear, of course, we do not know how the world even will answer for this most likely, he may not answer at all, and this will also be a very serious blow to world security, in short, lets move on, and what worries our viewers and listeners is the new appointment of Valery Zaluzhny, ambassador to Great Britain. And comment on this, please, i already started to comment on this when i said about the president ial election, once the appointment of people. Who was the commanderinchief of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, one of the highest representatives of the military and Political Leadership of the state , is always called to diplomatic work the same trying to keep the most popular likely political competitor at a long distance, ugh, and this is an obvious thing for me, because i repeat again, i have soviet experience. I remember how former members of the politburo of the Central Committee of the cpsu were appointed extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassadors after their removal from their posts. I even remember the story about the appointment of ambassador to Great Britain without agreman. Ugh. When the last minister of Foreign Affairs of the soviet union, boris pankin, a few weeks before the collapse of the soviet union, had to to resign, because the famous soviet politician, the future. The president of georgia, eduard chevarnadze, really wanted to return to smolensk square, simply to the position of minister of Foreign Affairs , minister of foreign relations, and Mikhail Gorbachev called mr. Pankin to the kremlin, he was very indebted to mr. Pankin, because mr. Pankin would not support the gkchp, well, and he told him that this is eduard amrosievich, here is the voter dmytrovych, you should leave the post, and that and boris dmytorovych asked him, what about him . Then to do, and then, mykhailo serhiyevich gorbachev picked up the phone, called the Prime Minister of Great Britain, john major, and said, mr. Major, could you accept boris pankin, such a good man, our foreign minister, quality and sent to Great Britain, and mr. Major, that he had what he had to say when the president of the soviet union called him in direct communication, he said, well, of course, we will do it as an honor to receive the minister of Foreign Affairs in london and. The kremlin was informed about this even before the moment when agreman was confirmed by the uk government, therefore that it was just a telephone conversation between the president of the ussr and the Prime Minister of Great Britain, now almost the same thing happened , for reasons i do not understand , the announcement of the appointment of Valery Zaluzhny as ambassador to Great Britain took place even before Great Britain gave its consent and by the time it was signed accordingly. The decree of the president of ukraine, well, it is to some extent a kind of collapse of management, you know how the decree on the shevchenko prizes was signed today, which was not signed last time for three months in a row, why it was like this last year, and this year like this, one can only guess, but when there is an imbalance of state administration, which began not in 2022, but in 2019, there can be various such things, it is very difficult. So understand why it is so, why at all, why it is all unbalanced, everything is unbalanced, well, because it does not matter much, the balance does not matter much, people who should be balancers, but do not know how to do it, so, so that all these conversations that Valery Zaluzhny there in the position of ambassador to Great Britain will be engaged in arms purchases, will be a Great Authority in a country that is so important to us. To the allies, of course, it all sounds very beautiful, and in the past, people who spoke like that, and they still speak like that, wrote editorials for the soviet communist press, it was a special talent, i would in general specially remove these people from facebook, somehow ears by the nose and would send them to 1982, where there was a front page in the pravda newspaper, the front page in the izvesti newspaper, and they always always explained like this that, lets say, if there is no bread, then it is a huge harvest. Collected by Agricultural Workers of the smolensk region, this is beautiful, this too can only cause envy, the ability to call black white, white black, not seeing something in the eye, has no meaning, after all, this means that the idea is simple, that if valery zaluzhna , who, according to sociology, is a competitor of Volodymyr Zelenskyi in the illusory president ial. Elections wil

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