To use this european money for production in europe itself, including for ukraine, but in europe itself, so it is necessary to combine, i do not think that there is such a universal solution, and not it can be said that what france says is a universal decision, it is an important and very positive decision, but what is said about the Defense Industry in france, it is rather a joint Defense Strategy in the perspective of 10 years , including against russia, and what germany and the countries of Eastern Europe are saying is what needs to be done already this year. Oleksiy, i would like to ask one more component, these are macrons proposals. Isnt this happening, well finally the blurring of these red lines or i dont know what color lines regarding the fact that nato should not get involved in hostilities there on the territory of ukraine, and this step of blurring these lines. Was probably one of the impetus for these traditionally harsh statements by putin was during a speech before the federal assembly, where he began to talk about the fact that if the troops there enter our territory, realizing that implying that ukraine is their territory, yes, then this will cause the use Nuclear Weapons and so on, but still this moment of blurring the lines, does it not exist in macrons statement, or is it my assumptions . I think it exists, its clear, its visible. This is one, not only from the side of france it is being eroded, maybe from the side of france there is such, well, political reasoning, well, if Russian Troops and mercenaries are in france, where in africa, where french interests have their presence, well, they have the courage to say that they are ready to help ukraine with troops, near the borders of russia, this is an element, not only this element, there is also a pro. Verbal element regarding the fact that, unlike american missiles, french missiles can be used for targets in russia, this is political leadership, well, at least against legitimate targets such as iranian missiles, i think no one here will not deny that ukraine can strike, and even stoltenberg said that, well, you can strike at certain targets, it blurs, thats for sure, and it must be said, its also the biggest blur today. Of these red lines that putin drew 20 there in february 22, but the french, yes, in a political sense, this is just a colossal blurring, even destruction of these red lines, and that is why it is very important in a political sense, in another sense, other aspects, we said that there is a difficult situation with the Defense Industry and with. Specific weapons right now, but politically its a huge step. Mr. Oleksiy, thank you very much for these very important specific accents related to macrons statement, with the position of france at the current stage, i think that it will acquire new capacities. Thank you very much for the inclusion , i will remind our viewers that it was oleksiy yezhak, an expert of the National Institute of strategic studies, where we talked about the fact that there are certain external resources, reserves in order to keep ukraine in line with the Russian Federation, we see that these resources acquire such new trends, extremely interesting from the point of view of the possibility of using the military of foreign countries, eu and nato countries on the territory of ukraine to perform certain functions that are not combat, but which have a Significant Impact on increasing the potential of our armed forces, on our defense capacity from defense to specific tasks of connected with the provision of the front line. And then we. 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You draw your own conclusions. We continue our war and weapons program. We are talking about external and internal resources, new resources in the fight against the Russian Federation. And now we will talk about something so unusual about the potential of combat brigades. Usually we think that a brigade is personnel, equipment, training, and all this together makes up the combat potential that we see on the battlefield, but now our brigades carry another unique thing they fight it, they generate content, we see our boys and girls fighting on the battlefield, the war is getting closer, we. React even to what the soldiers themselves say, see them fight even with more confidence than even the spokesmen of those or species or military branches, it is in a certain way, well, a certain unique phenomenon, but what is also important is that the way the brigade fights, how it accompanies its actions, it creates an additional effect of force that can cement and strengthen the whole society, for this. There are certain markers, there is an understanding of these processes, and how this is happening, how can it be scaled, we will talk with our next guest, we are joined by hryhoriy lyubovets, one of the heads of the communication and content security center, mr. Hryhoriyu, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, i congratulate you, i congratulate the tv viewers, today we lets try to take this one topic that you and i discussed literally on the eve of this program, that. Our separate brigades, in particular we will take only the third separate assault brigade, which demonstrates a new approach not only to combat operations, because it is effective and efficient, but he creates such a whole information field with his actions, and this field has such an impression on society itself, and maybe there are some things here, where the team itself correctly caught some existing trends and this gives that well. Uh the effect of the cumulative force multiplication that we see now in the actions of the brigade, maybe im a bit like this, well, im explaining it in a confused way, id like you to make these main points, whats important is happening around our combat brigades, which are showing the best performance on the field battle, you just mentioned the third assault vehicle and said about the novelty, and here i would say first of all that this novelty, it. In fact, that is, they have been engaged in this for a long time and professionally, it just turned out that this potential is legalized, and here it is necessary. To also mention our general syrsky, who supported this trend, because he already in his public generalization spoke about the third assault brigade and the 25th brigade, indicating that these units really did a very good job in a unique way case and it came out, i. E. It was. Confirmed that that was announced by the third assault plane is really worldclass, and here i would still like to note that to us, scientists, and in our center of communication and continental security, and in the military institute, a window in our Research Center and management, e er , we are talking about, first of all, the potential of modern publicity, because. This aspect shows how much units can and already on this example are active, important, and i would say, they are really unique, because the level of the assault brigade, which operates in the first regime and presents it herself, this is the most valuable worldclass content, why worldclass, because we are just there. Or modern publicity, we have reached and we can claim that this publicity, based on the actions under kotohorivka, krasnohorivka and orlivka, is precisely the level of attention of the world, we call it glo gllocality, that is, the combination of the local with the global, on the other hand, it is a matter of content. Precisely the question of the level or place of confrontation, and here we also insist that the modern, modern confrontation that we, that is, ukraine, is carrying out, it precisely opposes genocidal aggression, not just war, not just conflict in legal language, namely genocidal. Aggression, and this complexity of this understanding and term should be shown, proved, mediated by Different Levels of content, so that our partners, so that the world understands to what extent the challenge of destruction, or total destruction, concerns not only ukraine, not only avdiivka, settlements near avdiivka or and this is a Training Ground for destroying everyone, why . Because the putinites are currently together with their own practically such accomplices in regimes of a terrorist nature, forming a new economy, terrorism and religion, we immediately rose to a sufficiently high level of perception of problems. And i would like us not to deviate a little from the brigade, thats why the peculiarity of these econtent or information things generated by the brigade, why it is the basis of the new army, and why it is , lets say, higher than, relatively speaking, the soviet management or information distribution scheme, because conventionally speaking, when the crew generates content, it does not fit in general, it is the habit of the soviet army, that is , we understand that we have a different coordinate system, so what is. The difference in the coordinate systems, when the brigade acts in such conditions, acts, fights and talks about its actions itself, this is just , lets talk , you stopped me, why did i say all this and at a very high level, because this is this high level of glocality, it requires precisely new tools, i wanted to go exactly to this, that practically we have to produce content, we have it there is, it just needs to be legalized. It is necessary to systematically approach its presentation, again, why . Not because you and i are talking, or someone thinks so, or we have researched, but because the world regime of this theater of military operations, which we call the level of the Global Communication and content space, requires this content. Otherwise we will lose, then our American Partners will say we dont believe that they are winning, and we dont. Understand how they win, and you know that democracies generally believe in people, and when people say, when they see their faces, why the soviet army has always been there. Relevant, someone spoke for someone, one spoke, another spoke, a third spoke, never spoke , first of all, the reason is that today we have the level of people who protect ukraine, europe and the world of such quality that we need to show them, that is its not very easy, it s difficult, but here you have to form systems, and the third assault unit has taken the principles right, and here you have to Pay Attention to nato standards, its trust and respect. Trust and respect in the defensive line is when you are not you can even leave wounded, because you , for example, in the calculation of a largecaliber browning machine gun, where there are three people, and they understand that if you leave, they will not be able to work with this powerful tool, so the question of respect and trust is precisely the question of this environment , but the organization. Production of content from this level is also a systemic action, and here the question is, and to whom all the brigades, for example, we believe that it is primarily, including the assault brigades, or divisions that produce primary content, i. E original content, so you have to learn what to do with it, you have to limit some things of a tactical order and so on, but what we have to show, we. Have to show the power of energy, style and the spirit of our fighters, who are not just working, there is such the word , i think is quite correct, but complicated they protect and save the world, the world in terms of everything that is peaceful people, and here is also one of the serious things that has become very objective today, what is humanity and what is peace, this can also be talked about it. For a long time, but the content from the position of a person, from the position of the actions of the unit, from the position of history, relations and from the position, by the way, of discourses , an example, the culture of gratitude to the military, the culture of modern veterans and the culture of honor, military honor, and today we say, that it is still the honor of the defense forces, today we practically received information that in. Ukraine the ministry of defense confirmed the annual plan for relations with nato countries, i. E. Nato ukraine, and this is also a question about what we have, in including in these measures to raise questions content, and we are talking about contentcommunication processes, or rather communicationcontent processes, this is a question of struggle, struggle for oneself, struggle for everyone, struggle with oneself, by the way. And struggle so that we have results , we have them, by the way, we have results at the rate of a minute, we once talked with you in the 1415th year about the content of the shot, when someone from that side shot, we we have to accompany it, and now we have the statistics of the ministry of defense, where we destroyed dozens and sometimes hundreds of units, and we do not serve it in terms of content. Let s serve it not only with numbers, but also with content saturated with knowledge, how this or that thing was destroyed without tactical features, but in fact, in what way, with what complexity of the terrain, or simply in general, we have to show it, then, then lets we will get to the weapons, then accompanying the destruction of weapons, of course, but then lets start, the heroism of people on the front line, losses, accompanying. Losses and its provision of gratitude to every soldier who died, how should we do it, so that it really invests in the colt of gratitude, the culture of honor, there are peculiarities here, in relation to losses, a very complex, you know, very systemic thing, it is a technological thing, and i would still speak here in the mode of the same third assault unit, this is their Patronage Service, their Patronage Service is a very strong thing. Because it is a Patronage Service not only of the serviceman, but also of the families who are involved in this process, either already or in the future, this is a very serious motivational thing about a serviceman who can change, who turns into a fighter, and then becomes a warrior spirit, practically understood that he performs everything, and then, when he really has some kind of loss, that is , he can be wounded, so that there is also this system. Accompanied him, you know how difficult it is for a serviceman from scratch to come to a conditionally civilian city, he does not understand what is happening here, and his. First reflections are very difficult, and we have to explain that it is thanks to him, if it wasnt him, it didnt happen, thats why the culture of honor and the culture of just gratitude, and it should already be programmatic, systemic things, thats why we have talk about respect and trust in environments, practically multiplicative synergy of functionality in environments of connections at the level of units and in. We give substitutability, that is, we are practically talking about people who are more people than just military, and this is very important, because the whole world must understand that ukraine is protecting them now in a civilized, i. E. Peaceful, human regime, and not just some soldiers doing their job well, this is wrong, because before us is an aggressor of a different order and scale, an aggressor of a genocidal character, who cultivates barbarism and terrorism at the level of awareness, that is, the cognitive reality they produce. Mr. Grigoriy, we understand this extremely important ideological and conceptual basis of the changes that are carried out there, in particular by the third brigade, other brigades, how to invest in scaling processes, what structures should be responsible for this, where these changes should be ensured and. So that their potential increases, who should do it, structures, people, at which levels, well, you understand that i do not have the authority, they say, to give instructions to structures and people, but i just like a scientist, as a representative of the scientific team, would like to state the following, firstly, what i said at the beginning, it is necessary to Pay Attention to this specificity of this theater of military operations, if our leaders at any level. Pay attention to this, they, based on their experience of job competencies and opportunities, they will simply perceive it differently. In our version, especially since our colleagues and i worked with the first, practically, press secretaries in the 15th year still in the state of ato, we believe that it is necessary, by the way, then this Initiative Came out, but it did not end, then a threelevel system was proposed. The first level is the press secretary, but with the staff, unfor