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ESPRESO July 2, 2024

Our colleague myroslava gongadze, who heads the division of the voice of america in eastern europe, it is clear that this information is not enough to talk about it in any context, but still, that these can be for missiles, but if we are talking about some of the characteristics that were already given by her, well, as far as i understand, the decision was probably made about mass attacks when they were transmitted in ukraine at 165 km and 300 km, actually speaking, obviously, and we have already received 165 km, the package i think that the next attacks may be 300 km mass, when this will happen, i want to believe that it will be in the near future and before january, here let us speak conditional, any date that will be announced, this date which is not true because we will never hear about even a month of supplies, in fact, because it is clear that under these conditions there is always some disinformation, and the sources that inform, they also give disinformation with a. So that the enemy does not visit and so that the messages do not penetrate the intelligence. Therefore, i think that the issue of supplying 300 km of the mes attack is practically resolved, and it is precisely these missiles that we are talking about, and perhaps they will be in ukraine by the end of the year. The European Union has until march, or was supposed to supply ukraine with 1 million ammunitions by march 24, but is currently lagging behind the schedule and has handed over only 30 , the media write about it, whether they will make it to the eu at all. The amount that should be transferred, and should it be possible to talk about the fact that there may be problems with ammunition on the ukrainian side , given this situation, ah, i think that there are risks that they will not have time, we must say and to be realistic, there is not much time left until march, given that this program has actually been running since march of this year, that is, we understand, but i can say that production is starting in the west, actually, why there was a shortage of gunpowder, which they are talking about. The fact is that this is natural, since more and more Raw Materials suitable for the production of ammunition shells began to be purchased, in particular by the eu countries and the united states, accordingly , the market was not ready for such a large demand, and therefore this shortage arose somewhat , but in any Case Production is started, production volumes grow two or three times depending on the enterprises located in europe and the united states, and it will be on. That is, the eu and the usa really are being built up, work is being done, and funding is allocated for this, its just that this period of time is very important, this is the period, you understand , when there is a drop in supplies, it is due to the fact that everything that is in warehouses is supplied to ukraine as much as possible, and what is produced , it takes time until it is produced and supplied, well, a certain interval, and here it is, if you look at the graph, there was supply, then there is a fall, then there may be a rise again, that is how it can be explained, but, in addition, it is necessary to understand that ukraine should also work on to produce shells and ammunition, after all, it is also our duty to ensure our defense capability. Mr. Oleksandr, there is one more question that i would also like to hear from you, to what extent this may correspond to reality, why this happens. Russia is massively recruiting mercenaries from cuba for the war against ukraine, and then these foreigners are being recruited by the east. The front line to hostilities, this is reported in particular by the center of national resistance, but here i want to understand, russia is trying to preserve, i dont know, its citizens in this way the state, those who are involved in the war from the territory of the russian federation, or the lack of personnel, personnel, about which it is often said that russia has equipment and weapons, there are problems with it, but there are a lot of people and they can to sacrifice on the battlefield, or what is happening in general, that is why foreigners are recruited there, well, you know, about a month ago, probably three. Three weeks ago, there were two reuters investigations that serbs were involved and cubans were involved, yes, in principle, this is not new information, about the fact that they are involved in hostilities, but the situation on next, you and i started with the fact that from the information provided by john kirby that they are shooting and repressing the russian military, that is , in order to prevent or postpone as much as possible or preempt the revolutionary situation, russia follows the path that they clean their prisons, prisons, take from there, in fact on contract socalled private military campaigns, there are wagnerites, now stormz, ridut, tigr, veterans, a lot. There are them, secondly, they recruit around the world, really, they travel and they recruit all over the world, starting from iran , cuba, venezuela, serbia, african countries, central asia, the third, you probably saw and it has already been verified, that they only grant citizenship to people from Central Asian countries, immediately they too , why are they doing this, they are postponing as much as possible the moment when the number of mobilized people from Large Russian cities will be increased , although there are already mobilized people from Large Russian cities, some from st. Petersburg, some from moscow, but their number is not so large, so far the russian government thinks that they are calm, because, well, you understand that someone will think less about the fate of a prisoner for intentional murder than about some muscovite or from st. Petersburg, who was there from some more or less socalled middle class and so on, thats why this is the reason, they really try to compensate at the expense of these, and whom they recruit. So that there is no indignation among those who can be really indignant, and in conclusion, one more short question i will have those attacks that were carried out by russian drones on the territory ukraine, in the last few weeks, how can you assess whether you have probed, whether you have found possible ways through which russian drones can penetrate to attack the Ukrainian Energy infrastructure, precisely when the heating season begins, when it gets colder, well, i think that there are risks, we understand them very well, because they can be not only drone attacks, but also combined, missile attacks, as well, this must also be understood, these risks exist. Ukraine, as far as i know, the air force is studying all routes, the flights of these drones, and in what way it is Still Necessary to strengthen the air defense means to improve the work, that is, the preparation for this is being carried out very seriously on our part, in order to counter these threats. Thank you, mr. Oleksandr, for your analysis, as always thorough, oleksandr musienko, head of the center for military legal research. The guest of our broadcast, to other topics, no less important, lets also agree on a common position regarding israels operation against hamas, as well as agree on further assistance to ukraine, precisely such tasks set himself the summit of the leaders of the European Union, which was held in brussels, was it possible to do it, now we will ask the correspondent of Radio Liberty in brussels, elena abramovych, she is already joining our broadcast, elena, congratulations, tell us what is known as of now . Good morning, oleg, the leaders met yesterday until midnight, actually, but the ukrainian issue, the ukrainian issue, did not get to the point, partly due to the twohour delay of french president Emmanuel Macron to the summit, but to a greater extent due to discussions about israel and palestine, which lasted 5 hours and ended with a call for humanitarian pauses and a peace conference as soon as possible. It is interesting that at the time, under the walls of the european council, during the adoption of these decisions, the palestinians protested. They are palifars and in their comments in the press were outraged that the European Union pays more attention to ukraine, such a narrative is now very often found at palestinian demonstrations, but the ukrainian question, well, in principle, it is really in the draft of the final declaration of the summit, the biggest it occupies a place, this project is now at the disposal of Radio Liberty, and the final declaration itself begins with the ukrainian issue, but so far the leaders have had time to discuss aid to ukraine only briefly, during dinner at 10 p. M. , they briefly. Exchanged views on providing 50 billion euros of aid to kyiv over the next four years , and everyone except hungary and slovakia spoke for it, this is information, and according to the publication, it is political, and it refers to diplomats, and from political and diplomatic circles, im sorry, Radio Liberty, we have information that only hungary opposed it, slovakia was generally represented by its new Prime Minister robert fico, who took office on the eve of the summit, and even during his Election Campaign he promised not to give ukraine any more bullets, but humanitarian support was not denied, and actually these 50 billion are macrofinancial assistance itself, and at the same time in brussels they were not in a hurry to draw conclusions, and diplomats and also the president of estonia before the start of the summit assured that often actually during Election Campaigns or at home, politicians say one thing, and then at summits in the circle of leaders, a completely different conversation, but in the case of fitso, it was all different, before arriving in brussels, he went to the floating parliament, where he assured the cameras that the position on he did not change the war in ukraine, he does not support either the provision of weapons or sanctions. To be absolutely clear ladies and gentlemen, i will not vote for any sanctions against russia until there is an analysis of their impact on slovakia on the table, if the sanctions hurt us, as most have previous sanctions, i see no reason to support them. Fitse did not repeat the same thing in brussels, to hundreds of journalists at the summit , he passed by the cameras upon arrival, but later assured, wrote on social networks that he had already conveyed his position to the president of the commission, orsula funderlajen. In general, finso took the line of hungarian Prime Minister viktor orban. He is in favor of a ceasefire and the beginning of peace talks between russia and ukraine. Orban himself, arriving at the summit, when asked by journalists about his handshake with putin, said that he was proud to support the dialogue with moscow. We have a clear and transparent policy on this matter, it differs from the position of the majority here. It. War strategy, we have a peace strategy. We would like to do everything to bring peace. That is why we keep Communication Channels open with russia, otherwise there will be no chance for peace. This is a strategy and we are proud to do it. We are the only ones who speak for and for a peace that benefits everyone in europe. Orban also actually blocks the allocation of 500 Million Euros from the European Peace Fund in fact, for weapons for ukraine, for cameras, he said that he was waiting for a delegation from kyiv in budapest. To discuss this matter. According to diplomats, in recent months, through the mediation of the european commission, a lot of negotiations between hungary and ukraine took place in order to settle all disputed issues, but it seems that after shaking hands with putin, orban wants to shake hands with zelenskyi, although of course he did not specify which delegation is waiting in kyiv. The ukrainian president , by the way, also joined the meeting, but online, in his own in his speech, he talked about a series of reform decisions that kyiv recently adopted for the start of negotiations on membership with the European Union. And also called for unity among the leaders. It is our historical responsibility to prevent the past from returning. We must remember that russia is currently fighting not to stay in our mariupol or crimea, but to be able to come to tartu or kdansk, if the kremlin wants it. Many of you have found such a past. Well, today the leaders have to discuss a number of issues regarding of ukraine, including the 12th package of sanctions and nada. Of ammunition, by the way, before the start of the summit, the Bloomberg News agency wrote that of the promised million ammunition in 2023, the eu provided kyiv with only about a third at the moment, the estonian Prime Minister, who had put forward this idea earlier, said about the million ammunition , who will find out with the leaders where the delays came from and why european manufacturers have not yet properly increased the production of ammunition, but concrete decisions are not expected at this summit itself, currently everything is in a state of discussion, and most of all. The discussion is now regarding the review of the longterm budget in the European Union, which actually includes these 50 billion euros for ukraine, but not only them, but also a number of other internal expenses in the eu, and much more about them contradictions, and these debates may once again draw attention away from ukraine at this summit, but on the other hand, concrete decisions, in any case , were already planned for the next summit, which will be in december, and regarding macrofinancial assistance and the start of membership negotiations, for ukraine in the eu, and what will be the result, given that orbans ally fico has appeared, it is not clear now, we will monitor and inform you, colleagues. Thank you elena, very much for such an informative turnon. Olena abramovych, our correspondent from brussels, about the results of the yes Leaders Summit that took place. There is another topic that we want to talk about , a new trend is spreading in social networks, which is probably related to cases of teenage suicide. This is stated in the childrens voices fund. They noted that children are posting on the tiktok Network Photos and videos from highrise buildings to the song of a russian singer. Some. With photos of those who committed suicide this fall, and these videos are getting a lot of views. Meanwhile, the kyiv police warns against the spread of unreliable information about suicide on social networks. There they asked for information, a few days ago it appeared on some telegram channels that several teenage suicides allegedly occurred simultaneously in different districts of the capital. This is not true, say Law Enforcement officers and add that such messages can cause people to panic, and therefore they are advised to trust only official information. National. The social services of ukraine warn adults to be attentive to the smallest emotions and changes of children, in fact , to detect them, they advise parents to intervene, but very carefully, so as not to violate Childrens Trust and their personal space. I will note that recently there have been several cases of death of minors, the cause of which, according to Law Enforcement officers, could have been suicide. Oksana pisareva, psychologist childrens voices fund, joins our broadcast. Mrs. Oksano, i congratulate you. Good morning in fact, this is a very sensitive topic and we, as responsible media , cover it with special care, approach this topic. I will also remind you that a case of suicide is considered confirmed only if it is confirmed. From the investigation, so ms. Oksano, what is the evidence that this trend of teenage suicide in social networks is really spreading . Well, its hard to talk about any evidence, direct evidence, yes, thats why what, well, we know that suicide is not a new topic, it was there, it was 10 years ago, it was 20 years ago, yes, a teenage topic, now , unfortunately, social networks have also been added, and of course, that the social network is in conditions, even more so now, when the whole world has moved to online communication, to online life, to online learning, to online work, and social networks have also become such a platform where people can find some circle of communication that can support this or that idea , including a suicide topic, and there really teenagers. Find Something Like that for themselves, and such a space and such a community in which it is supported, and it is really disturbing, and we must start doing something about it, what parents should Pay Attention to, for example, how to help children if they see any changes in their behavior, well, you have already answered the question in essence, that is, if there are changes in behavior. That is, we Pay Attention to a change in behavior, if the child, for example, has problems sleeping, has problems with eating, that is, we see that the child either eats or on the contrary, we refuse food we see that the child closes down, isolates himself, we see that he is rather irritable, or on the contrary excessively calm, well, very calm, or we see that the child, well, in general. Does not communicate with us, i. E. We ask something, and there are such unequivocal answers yes, no , i dont know, uh, well, that is, there is no such communication at all, or, on the contrary, he answers very sharply, i. E. , a violation of communication with parents , we Pay Attention to it, changes in behavior, in learning, and something that is not right, here it was somehow, it flowed, yes a river, and then once and returned, and then we Pay Attention to it, it is already some kind of beacon, we have to ask, what is happening with you there, and how are you, well , that is, to return to this communication, ms. Oksana, here is the largescale war of russia ag

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