Biden today. Assuring ukrainians that they can count on americas support. Let s listen to the direct speech and then i will ask a question. Today we met with nabu and sap, which were founded to work on by creating a strong independent anticorruption structure, and we strongly support it. Ukrainians want to have a transparent and prosperous economy integrated into europe, and for this they need to do many things. The eu has determined what is necessary for yours. Promotion and part of our work, and the ambassador and i work closely together, is to really help ukraine move forward, such as the set of policy reforms that will make it more likely that we will be able to attract more and more investment to ukraine, sir evgeny, how carefully u washington is watching what is happening in kyiv in terms of compliance with the eu s anticorruption requirements, i think these requirements are basically. Quite standard for the western world and there are no differences between the European Union and the United States in terms of what corruption is unacceptable and corruption inhibits the european euroatlantic integration of ukraine, here it is an absolutely obvious fact, you just know, well, if we applied for the role of the 51st state of the United States, and we were to be given some conditions, then i think that the representatives of brussels. Just so we would look at the situation ourselves, and yes, well, accordingly, mrs. Pritzker, er, no, not only has ukrainian roots, well, so to speak , in the anamnesis in the 19th century, but she is also a person who, i think, with origins in families where they are good at not just counting, investing money, and she is well aware of how economic laws work. And heres an interesting moment, i dont know if its intentional or not, maybe it didnt coincide chronologically, that is, she said that she met with nabu and sap, and also, mrs. Priskker met with volodymyr today zelenskyi, this is also, well, i think that in this case it is simply a chronological overlay, and of course, she will also tell about the meeting with the ukrainian president , hey, you heard, mr. Yevgeny, thank you very much for joining the broadcast, yevhen magda, political scientist and director of the institute of world politics, was in touch with us, thank you, well , lets put an end to that, see you, as usual, tomorrow on svoboda live, well keep in touch, the usual time, the usual tv channel, the usual host, my name is yuriy fizer , its monday 1 14 p. M. , which means the World Program is on espresso during the war, during which i will discuss with my guests the most important thing that happened in the world, obviously with reference to ukraine last week, well, at least we are trying to see into the week ahead in order to be, well, at least ready, today many topics, more than two guests, lets talk, but before that i want to remind everyone who watches us on youtube, please like and write comments, its very important for us, we want to hear your opinion, besides , this is very important for the promotion of our tv channel, our programs in youtubes complex algorithm, the more likes, the more comments , the more people will have the opportunity to see, in particular, the world at war program, so please, a big request to you, please like, so lets move on to the first topic i have today. Chose to talk, lets talk about the uh, summit, nato defense ministers meeting in brussels last week, which i was at, i was there, i saw it, but. With my first guest, the executive director of the Foreign PolicyCouncil Ukrainian prism, by hennadiy maksak, i want to talk about the aftertaste, mr. Vitali, mr. Hennadiy, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, maam, congratulations, glory to the mountains, thank you very much for joining, well, as i said just now, i was there , i saw what was happening inside, but i want to talk to you about the aftertaste, its been five days, that is, we know what we agreed on. What is the benefit for us that we have as a result, and there is benefit, firstly, we see that the agreement that was reached at the level of the Vilnius Summit on the launch of the ukraine nato council, it works, we see that various formats are taking place, that is, we are already trying to understand for ourselves how we can reach a higher level of cooperation between nato and ukraine in all directions, therefore, the more we hold meetings at the level of defense ministers, at the level of. Of our ambassadors, at the level of the minister of legal affairs, which is also planned in november, the more we will understand what topics are common to both, to both partners, and here it is important that right now this treasure is being filled with certain resources, certain committees, that is, the structure him is increasing, and this is one of the points, the other is what really happened in the fields about one regular meeting of the support group for ukraine, the wellknown namramstein, there are agreements, there is confirmation of previous agreements, for us it is possible it is a plus, because we see , that despite what is currently happening in the middle east, the escalation of the conflict, and a certain amount of attention is diverted , still the political signals that we heard, they say that ukraine is on the radar of both nato and the European Union and partners, which are part of the ramstein coalition, therefore, we should not worry that this may be a sharp decline or the redirection of certain resources, just as we should not, so let our enemies do not hope for this either. Well, definitely, dont get your hopes up. Mr. Gennadiy, please tell me, well, at least there in brussels they said that the visit of president Volodymyr Zelenskyi was important. Do you have any information about why he was so unannounced and so unexpected, because half an hour before the arrival of Volodymyr Zelenskyi at the nato headquarters, none of those present at all ukrainian journalists did not know about this visit. Why is it so unannounced . Well , lets not forget that we. A country that is at war and these are security measures, remember how gensex toltermer used to come to ukraine, and few people knew about it either, when he also visited the forum of Defense Industries and had meetings with our leadership, so i think that everything such a moment, on the other hand, i think that it was a reaction, a Quick Reaction from our side, from the ukrainian side, to what is happening in the middle east, and the timing of the clocks forgave that it was, lets say, last minute, although i will probably have less hope for it, because here again we need preparation, but the fact that it was not. Security, plus again the change in the geopolitical situation in the region, well, during the press conference, with the secretary of defense of the United States of america, lloyd austin, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the new chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Charles Brown, Charles Brown just said that it was very important that Volodymyr Zelensky arrived, because we did not hear him on video, and we heard him live about what ukraine needs and how we can help, and its great that. He attended and held many meetings. You have already said about this ukraine nato council, you mentioned the ukrainenato council. That is , it works, but it works in order to speed up our, increase our chances and speed up the moment of joining the north atlantic alliance. In your opinion , according to your estimates, how much time do we still need for this, obviously we have to wait until the end of the war, after the end of the war, how long does it take. And what we need to pay the most attention to in order to in order to become a fullfledged member of the alliance, lets go back a little to the Vilnius Summit and look at the various packages that were provided to ukraine, this is again financial assistance, this is a comprehensive package of assistance that includes certain humanitarian aspects, and on reformation and so on, and also there was signed or the foundations of the plan for interoperability were laid there, thats just what i think and there is a clue that we need to Pay Attention to, so that at the moment when the war ends with our victory, and they will understand it our partners, allies of nato, the questions regarding the internal unpreparedness of ukraine, they were minimal, that is, interoperability, our compliance with nato standards, perhaps with new standards that appear in ukraine and to which nato must also adapt, we must also keep in mind, and this is the moment we we have to close for you, thats why i think that precisely the council of ukraine nato , and our. the annual program, which will be reformatted, are now also being consulted on what it will look like, and in november there should already be final options and recommendations from members of the alliance so that they wanted, thats why exactly our well track as rmp, the external track as the ukraine nato council, this is exactly what we can talk about, and its important, in addition to the internal track, which i said, we now see that, well, come on, the council this is a new level, so here it is not only about integration, but also about where ukraine can be helpful or be part of the Common Security architecture, so i think that the more we are for ourselves during this time, while we are fighting, unfortunately and losing ours, our brothers, sisters and friends, but we understand how we are building the foundation of a new structure security, this is what we can explain to our partners at the council meeting, it is very important, we heard from our partners that ukraine, well, must necessarily be a member of nato, or did we hear further that the door are open, everyone has the right to be a member of nato, yuriy, i think that now, without saying everything , they understand that everything rests on the position of washington, on the position of american partners, the United States, we understand, took a certain pause, because it is political a sensitive issue, and the washington summit, unfortunately, is more of a signal that it will not be quite like that breakthrough, but i think that the partners are focused on the big players, so the more we work and in a bilateral format with our partners, and in the United States, in washington, and in those capitals that are powerful enough in europe, which represent the naoto alliance, the more better and it will be easier, so the explanation is really where we are in this format, it will push our partners, you understand, i think that you and i will agree here that when ukraine wins, the alliance will look at it differently, and the invitation can be fast, operative and have completely different conditions for us than we have now, so i think that we need to grit our teeth, do our work, but at the same time fulfill our, lets say, intentions and according to ours. Other areas where we have joint agreements. I completely agree with you on this. Mr. Gennadiy, the last question for you, at the nato headquarters at meetings, i heard many times from our partners that ukraine now needs to continue to implement reforms and, in particular, to fight corruption. The Prime Minister, mr. Shmyhal, said that we are doing well with this. He already seems to have even said twice about this, that we are fighting corruption. Do they believe in this alliance . Well, you see, the situation is that on the one hand, our project, even the european one, shows that we have made enough projects, which are connected with certain strategic visions of the fight against corruption, the fight against corruption, these are anticorruption measures, then i would say , that there are other efforts from other partners, which unfortunately put additional obstacles in our way, so we heard and saw the former president of the european commission, wrote that ukraine is simply all in the grip of corruption, povoha and other attempts of other countries, other politicians, so the work here will not be easy, and it depends not only on our track, what we have done, but also on how we communicate with our partners, and we understand that money, rough money, goes to weapons, to support ukraine and therefore the countries that are members of the alliance, they are just worried about how it is really spent, maybe you know this, anxiety, it is useless, but they need to explain it, that it is really necessary. Ma. Therefore, it is necessary to increase efforts not only from ourselves steps, but also from the communication of this situation with partners, so that there is really more information about efforts than information about how corrupt we are. Thank you very much, mr. Hennadiy, for participating in the program, it was hennadiy maksak, the executive director of the ukrainian prism Foreign Policy council, who spoke about the meeting of defense ministers of nato member countries, which took place last week on wednesday and thursday in brussels, the capital of belgium. On the first day they talked a lot. About ukraine, about support, as we can see, here is a conversation with mr. Gennady, about the fact that this there is support, and this support will be there, even though a conflict has begun in israel, which diverts attention from ukraine. Yes, before moving on to discussing the next topic and introducing the next guest, ill take a look at youtube. 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