Mr. Valentin, the participation, possible participation of iran in the preparation of the hamas attack on israel and, in general , the activation of the movements of hamas, hezbollah and other groups operating in the middle east, and the participation, possible participation, complicity of the Russian Federations, obviously, obviously testify to the fact that this is the axis of evil, as in the soviet terminology quite often. Used, we now have a pretty diverse audience, i. E. North korea, belarus, russia, iran, maybe partly there, onetenth china or 1 20th, but wont the war we re seeing now in the middle east contribute to that that the whole world will treat it like a civil war. To which we belong in modern civilization and civilized countries with this axis of evil, if it is articulated that it means for us and for our war, which we are currently waging against the Russian Federation and defending our territory, it is very important for us to be articulated correctly and truthfully, in fact, as i emphasized, there is terrorism, massive terrorism with huge human casualties , in ukraine it started on february 24 and russia started it , on saturday it started in israel two days ago and it was started by hamas with the support of iran, and russia supports and financed iran and continues to finance it with its huge military orders and not only. Here she is a group of countries, russia, iran and the hamas movement, and that s the end of it, no one else. Those who do not support this terrorism, and i am with you, let me disagree that china will somehow support them, no, no, no, now the task of ukraine and you and the antiputin coalition is precisely to build tougher sanctions and counterterrorism, moreover, so as not to there were loopholes so that no one doubts what kind of money is being used and for what, this is the first thing i wanted to emphasize, and the second, i am sure, is just in these times. I know that chancellor ferren scholz, the president of france macron, with the president of the usa and the Prime Minister of great britain, are still building policies and measures in order to stop the war and stop terrorism as soon as possible, on the land of israel and in the gas sector, and at the same time are produced by them, and here already in our the interests of ukraines steps and support in countering russian terrorism and russian terrorist attacks against ukraine. Obviously, the Current Situation in the middle east will once again prompt the whole world to talk about some new Security System, because literally these days there was a meeting of the un security council, a closed meeting where the war in israel was discussed, there are no decisions from the un security council, we. See that the European Union is meeting tomorrow, and the minister of Foreign Affairs of the European Union will discuss the situation in israel, there is a little different history, because actually the European Union helped palestine and it was a subsidized territory , they allocated 600 Million Euros a year to help the palestinians, and now it turns out that, in this, yes, in this situation, they stopped all aid, israel stopped the supply of water, electricity, fuel, that is, they are doing this in order to make this territory simply unfit for living there, and it is clear that in this situation, again, in the context the russianukrainian war, what we felt was not there, these security rules do not exist, this Security System has already been destroyed on february 24, 2022 , in your opinion, will what is happening now in israel still force you to sit down at the negotiating table and Start Talking seriously like an adult, right . Oon, what is oon, like this one the whole Security System in the world works, and in what way this system can be reformed or refounded, as at one time it was from the league of nations in the organization of the united nations, yes, but it will be a long time and on the eve of winter, here are two urgent steps that i would do number one and not wait for the un meeting and reconversation, statements, convictions and so on, this is. A long, and actually, i agree with you, a process that already has little meaning and little return. Putin destroyed international law, russias aggression destroyed all agreements on equal to the security council, and even putin and russia do not hide this, they flaunt the fact that what is the international order, what are the international rules, there are none for us, there are no rules for them, they do whatever they want, so there will be no answer to terrorism, i think, this time, not only and not so much at the level of the un, as much as for a more serious armed response and repulse, and here there is a place for us, ukraine in the antiputin coalition to receive more serious help for our armed forces, and i emphasize precisely so that combat aircraft, which can and should cover the ukrainian sky, the number one issue for us, because look at israel. Destroy hamas in the territory of the gas sector, and not only that the israeli aviation highprecision strikes and missiles from fighter aircraft, this is what ukraine really needs. In light of what is happening now in the middle east, in the un security council, un representative vasyl nebendzia says that in the village of groza in kharkiv oblast, where 52 ukrainians died as a result of a Ballistic Missile strike, he says that some neonazis were destroyed there, that is, everything reaches such an absurdity within the walls of the united Nations Organization that there are many questions about the activities of this organization and the effectiveness of this organization, however, before commenting on this situation, lets listen. What vasyl nebendzia, permanent representative of russia to the un, said. As you know, at the time of the attack , the funeral of one of the highranking ukrainian nationalists was taking place there. Of course, many accomplices who were not nazis participated in them. It is no accident that the pictures are published in on social networks immediately after the attack, almost all the body pictures belong to men of draft age. We have already encountered such situations more than once, the kyiv regime wringing its hands for those who died as a result. And so on, and then there were a large number of obituaries, military foreign mercenaries, such a random coincidence, we do not rule out that there will be a storm, mr. Valentin, to put it very briefly, why is the once most respected structure, an international structure, and even now under delegation to of this structure and where the maximum number of states of the world gather, why is it endures what russia is doing with this structure and its representative is not bendzia, why, why is this all being listened to and why are these arguments perceived as gods dew, you know , well, in fact, it leads to absurdity, who is the representative of russia, the country of the terrorist who killed half a village, in a thunderstorm in the territory of ukraine, half a village, a peaceful village was killed, they are terrorists. Missile with a terrorist strike , thats why, bringing it to the point of absurdity, to undermining in principle, you know, common sense, a terrorist possipaka, a representative of russia, says such things, he has a place on the dock International Tribunal, which i believe is the issue, here we have considered the first, the second, the third issue, the un should dare and still vote for the creation of an International Tribunal, and benzia and not only have been there for a long time, but most importantly the leaders of the Russian Federation, especially military personnel who commit and continue to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity on the territory of ukraine. This is exactly what i emphasized and paid attention to, and International Organizations where we are members ukraine, we are also in the un, there is a country founders, it is very important for us to convince the whole world and to ensure that an International Tribunal is created, this is the best answer to such, you know, absolutely stupid statements of the representatives of the Russian Federation, although in my opinion, they. This is deliberately in order to bring to absurdity, to undermine the authority of International Organizations, with their statements, the simplest step, which ukraine has been demanding for a long time, is to exclude russia from the un security council, but while russia has allies, there are not many of them, there are five or six countries left, but china is among them and others, it is not it can be done, but i think it should happen sooner or later, thanks. Mr. Valentin, this was valentin nalyvaichenko, peoples deputy of ukraine, former head of the Security Service of ukraine. Friends, we are live on the tv channel and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, please like this video and also participate in our vote, today we ask you about whether, in your opinion, the situation in israel will affect the war in ukraine, yes no, and also write your comments under this video, if you have another opinion, oleksandr musienko, head of the center for military legal research, joins our broadcast. Mr. Oleksandr, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. I congratulate you. Lets start with the situation in israel and what is happening there at this moment and in general these days, in the last three days, because literally in parallel with the beginning of hostilities, active hostilities of hamas against the state of israel. There was information that, they say, russia is trying in this way use the focus of the west and transfer the wests attention from the ukrainian front, the russianukrainian front, to israel. Secretary of state of the United StatesAnthony Blinken does not believe that the attack of hamas on israel, i will try to use the wests focus on ukraine, he stated this in an interview with the cbs channel, lets listen to what mr. Blick said. No, i dont see it, we dont , well see when we know more what the motives were, but one thing is clear, weve been actively working to help israel and saudi arabia normalize their relations, as well as for israel to expand its relations with many other countries in the region and beyond. The only thing we said to israel is that we are here, we support you, we want to make sure you have what you need. Support, in your opinion, what is happening in israel will affect the russianukrainian war, and in general , the attitude to this war in the world . I think it is an exaggeration to actually think that all this will divert attention from ukraine, it is impossible, because first of all, it is now rushing to what offensive campaign and operation of israel, it is showing success and will be. Quite successful and victorious and the terrorist enclave of hamas will be defeated and it is obvious that now there will be no confrontation in this period of time with iran directly, i. E. Probably there will be no strikes on the military to irans facilities, at least thats what the us said, that they dont see direct evidence of irans intervention at the moment, and it seems that the fleet that came up. Support group, it is more to deter israel from striking and unilateral actions not directly within the framework of the us coalition or with other countries on iran, so obviously the situation will gradually begin to fade away and will move into the direction of, lets say, isolated clashes that will occur, and in the future it will probably go beyond the domestic political situation, clarification , how could it happen, what went wrong, why. They did not warn in advance there, but this is already the internal political history of israel, it does not concern us, but in general, if we and, that is, here i do not see how it can be diverted informationally and said from attention, yes, to the people of the world, it certainly happened, it is happening now , because they cannot not talk about it, but from a practical, technical, Strategic Point of view, no, i think not, especially contacts. Constantly there were also crises in the region, here it seems to me that it is necessary to look globally at what happened, who could be involved in this and what profits and benefits they want. To get, well, i think so, of course, about russias attempt to try to create and, lets say, start a big war in the middle east with the goal of getting the us involved, and got involved west, and largescale hostilities broke out there, as a result, it would mean that we would be short on aid and the focus of that attention would be diverted for many months in advance, it certainly could have been. And the facts that Russian Military instructors and advisers were training hamas members, terrorists , i have no doubt that it is not you, it was not without russia, but globally, who is now trying to make the most of this is china, and china is taking advantage of this situation in your favor, you see, not in vain in your quote, that is, in this one phrase, secretary of state blinken said an interesting, important thing, that israel. Intended to establish relations, to improve relations with saudi arabia, and i want to remind you who made use of the agreements between iran and saudi arabia, which were not so long ago, and they established, established diplomatic relations, restored it, it was china, and china thus says that what they did now again there sent that it is necessary to recognize the independence of palestine, there and so on, and so on, they declared, and they say that do not forget to solve the problems in the middle east with the participation of china, which has a certain case, and it is a competition for approaches and the us is direct, i think that secretary of state blinkin mentioned this for a reason. Against the background of this bloody bini, which has been going on for the last three days, well, it continues, actually in the middle east, we see what the russians are saying, in particular the deputy head of the Russian Security council. Dmitry medvedev began to use this situation in order to say, well, look, the west provides weapons to ukraine, then, this the weapons that come to ukraine go, these weapons go to israel or to the hands of those who fight in israel, to quote him, the weapons were handed over to the neonazi regime in ukraine, they are actively used in israel, then they, like the weapons left by the americans by fugitives in afghanistan , will be used uncontrollably. In all the hot spots, because even before the corrupt ukrainian authorities traded everything they got, they stole gas and oil, products , materials, they stole everything that is bad, it will only get worse, wait for missiles, tanks on the black market, and soon planes with kyiv, judging by what medvedev says, it is quite likely that the weapons that fell into the hands of the russians on the russianukrainian front, these weapons were from the west, that they were delivered to the same hamas, quite possibly. Through iran and were used against israel, in order to discredit ukraine in this situation, or at least, you know how it is in the story of the chain mail, nothing happened, but there was a lot of publicity and ukraine was treated as a country that sold chain mail to iraq under sanctions, four chain mail in the early 2000s, or maybe such a special operation was carried out by the Russian Special services in order to discredit ukraine and to say that everything was stretched in ukraine, you see the corrupt government, they took over the party, the javilins were handed over to hamas, well , of course, it can and will be used, most likely it is already being used, the simple issue is that the United States was informed about this even earlier and spoke, i want to remind you, there were situations a few months ago when. it was established that, unfortunately, during hostilities, there in the district mariupol back in 2022, then again, when our forces left, it could be, then in fact certain types of weapons were taken by the enemy, well, yes, strictly speaking, it could be, then the list was given that these were stingers, some other types of weapons, it was delivered by russia to iran, and it was even written by the american media, it was talked about, no one came to know these facts. Accordingly, it is clear where she could get from iran, it is clear that to help hamas, or there through various schemes, well, that is, through chains, so as not to implicate herself directly, this the first moment, the second moment, as of today, what they are talking about and what medvedov states there and so on, it does not have direct evidence. There are no accusations of collusion that are being heard, the russian propaganda resource, various warlords, there are channels in social networks and the like, that have been said to be using. Hamas and these are definitely only weapons that were allegedly transferred to ukraine. I have the following question what is important when investigating any crimes and similar events. And what is ukraines motive, what should ukraine win for with this motivation, to quarrel with the west, and not to receive western support, to cause a flurry of negative publications in the western media. And in such a way that, ah, to provoke a decrease in support, well how, that is, there is absolutely no motive here , there is none, but there is a motive in russia, of course, there is a motive in russia to frame ukraine, so that against the background of the current discussions, which are taking place in particular in the United States, it is not easy, regarding the level of support of the volume that should be for our state next year, plus the internal issues that are in america. Related the election of a new speaker and so on, the changes that are taking place, throw in here and throw up, for example, to some politicians, western experts, activists the topic that ukraine should not be helped, because it is a corrupt state and the weapon