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Every house is broken, broken, guided air bombs regularly arrive here, artillery, rocket systems of salvo fire, lets go there further, sit down, i want the day groups to replace the night ones and we work so that there are no pauses in the flight, that is, one arrives, is fixed, conducts observations, the second is removed, and so on a permanent basis , that is, they replace, well, different points, er, different work, that is, someone conducts intelligence surveillance, someone conducts longrange intelligence, and if we simulate the situation, what would we not have. Drones, nothing at all, as it was, the first world, in short, why the first world maybe, this is to explain to people, yes, you are now in the basement, yes, well, close your eyes, go away from here, with closed eyes, blindfolded , well, just like that, well, thats how it turns out, well, somewhere, im shooting somewhere, well, its quiet now, its relatively quiet now, im changing, and they destroyed the treasure. Above, you can show us a picture, its one of ours, plus, lets do it a little bit, like that, now they dont go so brazenly anymore, now they, one might say, got hold of their heads, well no, they dont go, they dont go , shooting, shelling. Time and run away and run away and run away in our guys are ff cemikazes, they are afraid of them, our guys keep equipment, all their equipment , Armored Vehicles are afraid of our guys who fly kamikaze, our guys know their business, 100 . Russia transferred 14 ships of the black sea fleet to novorossiysk, american researcher mt anderson came to these conclusions. He refers to the analysis of satellite data for october 1, according to which the russians transferred more than a dozen ships of the annexed sevastopol to the krasnodar territory. In particular, it is about two frigates admiral esen and admiral makarov, three diesel submarines, five large amphibious ships and several small missile ships. At the same time , pictures from october 2 showed that there is one large landing ship, minesweepers and small missile ships in feodosia in the annexed crimea. Well , there are currently four large Amphibious Assault ships and a submarine left in sevastopol itself. I would like to add that earlier the British Ministry of defense assumed that the Ukrainian Forces actually managed to defeat the russian fleet in the black sea. Oleksiy heitman, a veteran Russian Military analyst joins our broadcast. Mr. Oleksiu, my greetings. Good evening, but unfortunately i cant hear you. Mr. Oleksiy, can you hear me . I can hear you fine, can you hear me . Yes, and i can hear you now, great. Mr. Oleksiy, well , the very fact of the transfer of ships from sevastopol to the novorossiysk krasnodar krai, what does this mean in general, they really feel threatened and actually how vulnerable they remain. Here are these ships in krasnodar the regions, well, they remain vulnerable, because we have means that we may be able to strike, in different ways, why are they withdrawing ships from sevastopol from feodosia, because, well, they saw the result of our air attacks, so , of course, we should continue to keep them there these ships do not make sense, especially in sevastopol, but the main thing is that the Ship Repair Plant be destroyed, about it, well, everyone says about a large landing ship, about a submarine, and so for some reason it is in third place, and not always in the voice of the destroyed factory, this is not just the factory that repaired these boats, why, why is it in the port, because after leaving the ships, well, in the sea, they are obliged to return, well, when they return to the port, they have to undergo routine maintenance, well, every time after they return, for this, it is not just a matter of tearing up the deck, there are certain, well, certain procedures, certain according to a certain map. Technological, they have to do it, and it is done precisely at such enterprises that were destroyed, eh, because the port is not just a city where you can get involved, and this is a city where you can carry out exactly these, this technical work, now, well, not even because they, well, also because they are afraid that something might fly again, but because there is no there is no point in going in, and they are these ships, well, for now, they have driven them into, well, they are driven partially into the sea of ​​azov, then i think it will be novorossiysk, then maybe sochi adler, anapa, well, where, where are they there, they will be able to in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation to try to do something with them, and the main thing is that right there in sevastopol, it was loaded on missile carriers, they have three remaining submarines, missile boats and shipyards, surface missile carriers, they were loaded precisely in sevastopol, now they have certain ones, the caliber is available where. We are talking about calibers , now they have a certain problem, and they will , well somehow the remaining missiles that were already in sevastopol will be transported, i think, well, somewhere to other ports, wherever they want, so can this be considered a victory over the black sea fleet, but from the point of view that there are still ships, on this c to the Russian Black Sea fleet, it cannot be considered that it does not exist, it is still combat capable, it can do some damage, but the advantages are the same as they were. Even there, well, lets say, there six months ago or there a year ago, such an advantage they do not have, and they are no longer able to control, a large part of the water area of ​​the sea of ​​azov, temporarily occupied territories, where our territorial waters, which they consider their own, if in this sense, if it was meant in the British Ministry of defense, what they already have such an advantage, they dont have such an advantage, so thats it can be called with no difficulty, what is it, we defeated the black sea, russian fleet, no, it still exists, so far it will be capable, but, advantages, such a significant advantage, unconditional, as they say, they no longer have an advantage, well, we will continue to sink, well, actually there they compared this impression of the black sea fleet in the occupied crimea with the kharkiv breakthrough in the kharkiv direction , and again, mentioning british intelligence, they are now reporting that russia will try to block the grain corridor, but what is it about . About will attack civilian ships, use sea mines on their way for this purpose, which they say, in this way, the kremlin will avoid such an open sinking of civilian ships and will shift the blame to ukraine for any incidents, and here , for the sake of justice, it should be noted that such a scenario was predicted earlier, ukrainian experts also added that the Russian Federation will probably use submarines for this, because there is little that ukraine can do. To oppose this, because ukraine does not have traditional, or fulltime, submarines, right to say, the possibilities of fighting, and with submarines, and what ways are generally available, that is, what can ukraine now do to counter such a probable scenario of mining the grain corridor for the sinking of civilian ships, well, then, well, lets do it on the shelves, first of all, try to control whether to search, or even. To sink a civilian vessel, the russians have already talked about this many times, even before this naval blockade, well, not a naval blockade, of trade routes, from these grain routes, of course, they would have it, they they said to sink a civilian ship, well i think it would be then britain wanted to bring its fleet here, i think the sixth black sixth American Fleet would have come in if such a. Oh my god it happened, i think because of turkey would have let them through, this, that, thats why the poles, the poles, of course they wouldnt do anything like that, because it would be shah for. The border even for the russians, so of course, you still have to try to block the border supply of our grain to countries that need it, therefore of course it will be mines, they cant do anything else, and they will talk about the fact that these mines were planted, our ships were planted, that we did it, although, well, to mine, the corridor along which we transport grain to ourselves, well, thats what its hard to understand how to do it, but im sure that there are some people abroad who, like, in words, sometimes say that our partners, and sometimes its quite the opposite, i think that many people will say that it will will shift the blame to us, they will start actively fanning it to various people there, organizations of the United Nations where, where only they are able to do it, what about us, how can we counter this, demining, well, what about us. We need to address this, if , if it is confirmed that the passage is indeed mined, we should contact our partners, maybe to the turkish black sea fleet, to other maritime countries, so that they bring military courts, their ships there, and so that , firstly, that these should be ships that can clear mines, there are such possibilities, and secondly, ships that can sink Russian Submarines, because in a different way. Unfortunately, nothing it will not be possible to act, there are great doubts that, after all, well, unless britain, that they, they already , they already seem to agree to start their fleet, and then, i think that with the russians there, the russians will have a big problem, because fighting with not with the British Military fleet, since the great battle of the spanish, the spanish and british, in the century before last at sea, no one has defeated the british fleet. Ugh. Mr. Oleksiy, you mentioned that even in novorossiya in the krasnodar territory, ukraine itself can get russian ships. Ot the destruction of the Russian Submarine rostovnad in sevastopol was called a unique , first in the history of ukraine, similar operation, but then the submarine was hit by a surface drone, if i am not mistaken, can submarines get the novorossian submarine to krasnodor. By these surface drones, you mean the submarine that was destroyed in sevastopol, it, it was destroyed destroyed, as far as the official report was by a missile, there was a photo where the explosion took place inside this submarine, that is, it was most likely shtorovsh, who has the ability, thanks to the kinetic energy, to penetrate inside the thing that it attacks, well, it is not immediately from the detonation, the explosive is there, well, the warhead of the explosion, already. After it, well, crawled, lets say, crawled, about advanced inside that what it is supposed to detonate, that is, there is a certain delay in the explosion, and the rocket has kinetic energy, it is somewhere there, the headquarters pierces it, and then it explodes inside, judging by what we saw, the blast that took place in this rank, then the explosion was inside, they had only three boats left, they had in general, there were six boats, one, the navy. The Russian Federation had six boats, one was barely breathing, it was there for repairs or Something Else was done with it, there were five left, one they sent to syria, they tried to do something there, it is there for some reason, it is there for some reason the flow is unknown, but the return direction is already tursia from busfordane, it was not missed, there are four, we neutralized one, there are three, now all these three submarines are in the azov region, can we hit all those boats, well, in general all. The black sea fleet of the Russian Federation, yes indeed, we, we are able to completely destroy it, without even using missiles, with our, without, it is correct to say , unmanned boats, well, surface drones, which have a range of up to 800 km, this is the official message, i think that they can swim further, walk, swim , the cersyat ships are sailing there, ours is walking, that s how it is, well, when we destroy other ships, well, you know. Im sure that our hall has already been called mosquito, it is capable of this, mosquito is a little offensive, although on the other hand, there are many mosquitoes, they can do a lot, a lot of damage to the enemy, and we have a large, relatively large number of these bastards, we even had to create a separate brigade of such boats, why are russian ships not attacked in the sea of ​​azov now, whether it is in novorossiysk or in other russian ports, or whether there is anything left there, well, this is a question of our general staff, i think that it is simple, uh, well , it is simply planned now and when there is time, it is not because there is no we can, because all this is necessary to do in a timely manner, that is, the time of sinking will come, ugh, well, i cant help but ask, today it became known that russia signed an agreement on the creation of a Permanent Naval base on the black sea coast of selfproclaimed abkhazia, on the territory of georgia, the socalled abkhazian leader stated this , and the kremlin does not comment, they say, this is a matter for the ministry of defense, tbilisi has already responded that this is a violation of sovereignty, if so, is it connected with ukraine, with ukraine and the strikes on crimea, and how is it connected . We understand well, who doesnt, doesnt have a map in his head, then let him look, well, its even further, it s even further than sochi, its, i think, somewhere dry, all the way there, that is, the further from our territories, from the city , where can our boats or our missiles reach , they are still left, i dont know where in the cospian sea , let him translate, everything will definitely be fine there, mr. Oleksiy, well, we literally have only one. Minute, but i want to draw your attention to zelskys statement in spain, he says that if the war in ukraine is frozen now, then irf will attack other countries in 2028, and at the same time we are talking about the fact that russia is depleted of weapons, including how realistic is this in your estimation . Yes, in spain, there is now a semiofficial meeting, well, this is a separate conversation, there is a minute left, the fact is that if we are now, yes, now russia. Is exhausted, and she needs time, several years, in order for them, in order to renew, well, make the newest kraket of especially heavy equipment, tanks there, Armored Vehicles, everything that is necessary for conducting hostilities, they it takes time, they are by and large, even with subsanctions, they are able to do it, but they need time to rework a lot of things there, to put a lot of components there according to gray schemes, that is, they need a break, they are really exhausted now, so thats right. Thats right, well, not here, in general, president zelenskyi is right to say that you cant give them a break, especially for several years, well, it will be the first, ukrainian and second, the fault of gods harrow, this is not possible to do, you have to press them until they, they they are not able, well, they have weapons production, but in a day they spend, lose more weapons than they produce, and you know how in that task at school there are Small Screens leaking, there is a small screen leaking and when it ends there, they have, at such. Rates , they have fast and heavy equipment and all the others will run out, they produce less than they lose, so they need a break. Thank you, very much, thank you for joining the broadcast, oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a veteran of the russianukrainian war, was in direct contact with us. Thank you. Almost fifty the leaders of the countries of europe and the neighborhood gathered at the summit of the European Political Community in the spanish city of granada. Volodymyr zelenskyi joined them for security reasons. Were not confirmed until the last moment. The ukrainian president was the first to speak at the opening of the meeting immediately after the greeting from the host of the event , spanish Prime Minister petro sanchez. Our colleague in brussels, olena abramovych, is monitoring the progress of the summit, she is in direct contact with us. Olena, i congratulate you, please tell me what solutions are possible to expect from this meeting, well, actually, how did you meet the ukrainian president . Good evening, colleagues, indeed, Volodymyr Zelenskyi to the last. His participation was not confirmed, but he was the first to arrive at the summit, well, after the host of the event, the spanish Prime Minister petro sanchez, and speaking briefly with journalists, he assured that he was not worried about news from the usa about unapproved financial aid, said that ukraine after a fullscale invasion generally does not live, but works, and that President Biden assured him of 100 percent support, speaking about the priority of ukraine at this summit, zelskyi said that the need to maintain the unity of europe, for now. In priority, given the streams of disinformation coming from russia, and he also spoke about the need for military aid, traditionally, and the need to protect the ukrainian sky, given the approach of winter and the likely bombing of the Russian Energy infrastructure of ukraine, and already under during the speech before the leaders at the opening of the summit, and Volodymyr Zelenskyi emphasized that the end of the war is now an impossibility, what is needed is the victory of ukraine , so that russia is also safe, and russia is considering various scenarios for the coming years, if there is any pause in these aggressions against ukraine, any freezing of the situation, then a new critical moment will come in 2028. If russia is allowed to adapt now, then in 2028 the kremlin will be able to restore the military potential that we destroyed and russia will have enough power to attack the countries that are the focus of russian expansion. Apart from ukraine, these are definitely countries Baltic States and precisely those countries on the territory of which russian contingents are present. This is clear information from our intelligence. We are signaling this to you. By the way, journalists also asked high representative jesztep borel whether the Armored Vehicles<\/a> are afraid of our guys who fly kamikaze, our guys know their business, 100 . Russia transferred 14 ships of the black sea fleet to novorossiysk, american researcher mt anderson came to these conclusions. He refers to the analysis of satellite data for october 1, according to which the russians transferred more than a dozen ships of the annexed sevastopol to the krasnodar territory. In particular, it is about two frigates admiral esen and admiral makarov, three diesel submarines, five large amphibious ships and several small missile ships. At the same time , pictures from october 2 showed that there is one large landing ship, minesweepers and small missile ships in feodosia in the annexed crimea. Well , there are currently four large Amphibious Assault<\/a> ships and a submarine left in sevastopol itself. I would like to add that earlier the British Ministry<\/a> of defense assumed that the Ukrainian Forces<\/a> actually managed to defeat the russian fleet in the black sea. Oleksiy heitman, a veteran Russian Military<\/a> analyst joins our broadcast. Mr. Oleksiu, my greetings. Good evening, but unfortunately i cant hear you. Mr. Oleksiy, can you hear me . I can hear you fine, can you hear me . Yes, and i can hear you now, great. Mr. Oleksiy, well , the very fact of the transfer of ships from sevastopol to the novorossiysk krasnodar krai, what does this mean in general, they really feel threatened and actually how vulnerable they remain. Here are these ships in krasnodar the regions, well, they remain vulnerable, because we have means that we may be able to strike, in different ways, why are they withdrawing ships from sevastopol from feodosia, because, well, they saw the result of our air attacks, so , of course, we should continue to keep them there these ships do not make sense, especially in sevastopol, but the main thing is that the Ship Repair Plant<\/a> be destroyed, about it, well, everyone says about a large landing ship, about a submarine, and so for some reason it is in third place, and not always in the voice of the destroyed factory, this is not just the factory that repaired these boats, why, why is it in the port, because after leaving the ships, well, in the sea, they are obliged to return, well, when they return to the port, they have to undergo routine maintenance, well, every time after they return, for this, it is not just a matter of tearing up the deck, there are certain, well, certain procedures, certain according to a certain map. Technological, they have to do it, and it is done precisely at such enterprises that were destroyed, eh, because the port is not just a city where you can get involved, and this is a city where you can carry out exactly these, this technical work, now, well, not even because they, well, also because they are afraid that something might fly again, but because there is no there is no point in going in, and they are these ships, well, for now, they have driven them into, well, they are driven partially into the sea of \u200b\u200bazov, then i think it will be novorossiysk, then maybe sochi adler, anapa, well, where, where are they there, they will be able to in the territorial waters of the Russian Federation<\/a> to try to do something with them, and the main thing is that right there in sevastopol, it was loaded on missile carriers, they have three remaining submarines, missile boats and shipyards, surface missile carriers, they were loaded precisely in sevastopol, now they have certain ones, the caliber is available where. We are talking about calibers , now they have a certain problem, and they will , well somehow the remaining missiles that were already in sevastopol will be transported, i think, well, somewhere to other ports, wherever they want, so can this be considered a victory over the black sea fleet, but from the point of view that there are still ships, on this c to the Russian Black Sea<\/a> fleet, it cannot be considered that it does not exist, it is still combat capable, it can do some damage, but the advantages are the same as they were. Even there, well, lets say, there six months ago or there a year ago, such an advantage they do not have, and they are no longer able to control, a large part of the water area of \u200b\u200bthe sea of \u200b\u200bazov, temporarily occupied territories, where our territorial waters, which they consider their own, if in this sense, if it was meant in the British Ministry<\/a> of defense, what they already have such an advantage, they dont have such an advantage, so thats it can be called with no difficulty, what is it, we defeated the black sea, russian fleet, no, it still exists, so far it will be capable, but, advantages, such a significant advantage, unconditional, as they say, they no longer have an advantage, well, we will continue to sink, well, actually there they compared this impression of the black sea fleet in the occupied crimea with the kharkiv breakthrough in the kharkiv direction , and again, mentioning british intelligence, they are now reporting that russia will try to block the grain corridor, but what is it about . About will attack civilian ships, use sea mines on their way for this purpose, which they say, in this way, the kremlin will avoid such an open sinking of civilian ships and will shift the blame to ukraine for any incidents, and here , for the sake of justice, it should be noted that such a scenario was predicted earlier, ukrainian experts also added that the Russian Federation<\/a> will probably use submarines for this, because there is little that ukraine can do. To oppose this, because ukraine does not have traditional, or fulltime, submarines, right to say, the possibilities of fighting, and with submarines, and what ways are generally available, that is, what can ukraine now do to counter such a probable scenario of mining the grain corridor for the sinking of civilian ships, well, then, well, lets do it on the shelves, first of all, try to control whether to search, or even. To sink a civilian vessel, the russians have already talked about this many times, even before this naval blockade, well, not a naval blockade, of trade routes, from these grain routes, of course, they would have it, they they said to sink a civilian ship, well i think it would be then britain wanted to bring its fleet here, i think the sixth black sixth American Fleet<\/a> would have come in if such a. Oh my god it happened, i think because of turkey would have let them through, this, that, thats why the poles, the poles, of course they wouldnt do anything like that, because it would be shah for. The border even for the russians, so of course, you still have to try to block the border supply of our grain to countries that need it, therefore of course it will be mines, they cant do anything else, and they will talk about the fact that these mines were planted, our ships were planted, that we did it, although, well, to mine, the corridor along which we transport grain to ourselves, well, thats what its hard to understand how to do it, but im sure that there are some people abroad who, like, in words, sometimes say that our partners, and sometimes its quite the opposite, i think that many people will say that it will will shift the blame to us, they will start actively fanning it to various people there, organizations of the United Nations<\/a> where, where only they are able to do it, what about us, how can we counter this, demining, well, what about us. We need to address this, if , if it is confirmed that the passage is indeed mined, we should contact our partners, maybe to the turkish black sea fleet, to other maritime countries, so that they bring military courts, their ships there, and so that , firstly, that these should be ships that can clear mines, there are such possibilities, and secondly, ships that can sink Russian Submarine<\/a>s, because in a different way. Unfortunately, nothing it will not be possible to act, there are great doubts that, after all, well, unless britain, that they, they already , they already seem to agree to start their fleet, and then, i think that with the russians there, the russians will have a big problem, because fighting with not with the British Military<\/a> fleet, since the great battle of the spanish, the spanish and british, in the century before last at sea, no one has defeated the british fleet. Ugh. Mr. Oleksiy, you mentioned that even in novorossiya in the krasnodar territory, ukraine itself can get russian ships. Ot the destruction of the Russian Submarine<\/a> rostovnad in sevastopol was called a unique , first in the history of ukraine, similar operation, but then the submarine was hit by a surface drone, if i am not mistaken, can submarines get the novorossian submarine to krasnodor. By these surface drones, you mean the submarine that was destroyed in sevastopol, it, it was destroyed destroyed, as far as the official report was by a missile, there was a photo where the explosion took place inside this submarine, that is, it was most likely shtorovsh, who has the ability, thanks to the kinetic energy, to penetrate inside the thing that it attacks, well, it is not immediately from the detonation, the explosive is there, well, the warhead of the explosion, already. After it, well, crawled, lets say, crawled, about advanced inside that what it is supposed to detonate, that is, there is a certain delay in the explosion, and the rocket has kinetic energy, it is somewhere there, the headquarters pierces it, and then it explodes inside, judging by what we saw, the blast that took place in this rank, then the explosion was inside, they had only three boats left, they had in general, there were six boats, one, the navy. The Russian Federation<\/a> had six boats, one was barely breathing, it was there for repairs or Something Else<\/a> was done with it, there were five left, one they sent to syria, they tried to do something there, it is there for some reason, it is there for some reason the flow is unknown, but the return direction is already tursia from busfordane, it was not missed, there are four, we neutralized one, there are three, now all these three submarines are in the azov region, can we hit all those boats, well, in general all. The black sea fleet of the Russian Federation<\/a>, yes indeed, we, we are able to completely destroy it, without even using missiles, with our, without, it is correct to say , unmanned boats, well, surface drones, which have a range of up to 800 km, this is the official message, i think that they can swim further, walk, swim , the cersyat ships are sailing there, ours is walking, that s how it is, well, when we destroy other ships, well, you know. Im sure that our hall has already been called mosquito, it is capable of this, mosquito is a little offensive, although on the other hand, there are many mosquitoes, they can do a lot, a lot of damage to the enemy, and we have a large, relatively large number of these bastards, we even had to create a separate brigade of such boats, why are russian ships not attacked in the sea of \u200b\u200bazov now, whether it is in novorossiysk or in other russian ports, or whether there is anything left there, well, this is a question of our general staff, i think that it is simple, uh, well , it is simply planned now and when there is time, it is not because there is no we can, because all this is necessary to do in a timely manner, that is, the time of sinking will come, ugh, well, i cant help but ask, today it became known that russia signed an agreement on the creation of a Permanent Naval<\/a> base on the black sea coast of selfproclaimed abkhazia, on the territory of georgia, the socalled abkhazian leader stated this , and the kremlin does not comment, they say, this is a matter for the ministry of defense, tbilisi has already responded that this is a violation of sovereignty, if so, is it connected with ukraine, with ukraine and the strikes on crimea, and how is it connected . We understand well, who doesnt, doesnt have a map in his head, then let him look, well, its even further, it s even further than sochi, its, i think, somewhere dry, all the way there, that is, the further from our territories, from the city , where can our boats or our missiles reach , they are still left, i dont know where in the cospian sea , let him translate, everything will definitely be fine there, mr. Oleksiy, well, we literally have only one. Minute, but i want to draw your attention to zelskys statement in spain, he says that if the war in ukraine is frozen now, then irf will attack other countries in 2028, and at the same time we are talking about the fact that russia is depleted of weapons, including how realistic is this in your estimation . Yes, in spain, there is now a semiofficial meeting, well, this is a separate conversation, there is a minute left, the fact is that if we are now, yes, now russia. Is exhausted, and she needs time, several years, in order for them, in order to renew, well, make the newest kraket of especially heavy equipment, tanks there, Armored Vehicles<\/a>, everything that is necessary for conducting hostilities, they it takes time, they are by and large, even with subsanctions, they are able to do it, but they need time to rework a lot of things there, to put a lot of components there according to gray schemes, that is, they need a break, they are really exhausted now, so thats right. Thats right, well, not here, in general, president zelenskyi is right to say that you cant give them a break, especially for several years, well, it will be the first, ukrainian and second, the fault of gods harrow, this is not possible to do, you have to press them until they, they they are not able, well, they have weapons production, but in a day they spend, lose more weapons than they produce, and you know how in that task at school there are Small Screens<\/a> leaking, there is a small screen leaking and when it ends there, they have, at such. Rates , they have fast and heavy equipment and all the others will run out, they produce less than they lose, so they need a break. Thank you, very much, thank you for joining the broadcast, oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a veteran of the russianukrainian war, was in direct contact with us. Thank you. Almost fifty the leaders of the countries of europe and the neighborhood gathered at the summit of the European Political Community<\/a> in the spanish city of granada. Volodymyr zelenskyi joined them for security reasons. Were not confirmed until the last moment. The ukrainian president was the first to speak at the opening of the meeting immediately after the greeting from the host of the event , spanish Prime Minister<\/a> petro sanchez. Our colleague in brussels, olena abramovych, is monitoring the progress of the summit, she is in direct contact with us. Olena, i congratulate you, please tell me what solutions are possible to expect from this meeting, well, actually, how did you meet the ukrainian president . Good evening, colleagues, indeed, Volodymyr Zelenskyi<\/a> to the last. His participation was not confirmed, but he was the first to arrive at the summit, well, after the host of the event, the spanish Prime Minister<\/a> petro sanchez, and speaking briefly with journalists, he assured that he was not worried about news from the usa about unapproved financial aid, said that ukraine after a fullscale invasion generally does not live, but works, and that President Biden<\/a> assured him of 100 percent support, speaking about the priority of ukraine at this summit, zelskyi said that the need to maintain the unity of europe, for now. In priority, given the streams of disinformation coming from russia, and he also spoke about the need for military aid, traditionally, and the need to protect the ukrainian sky, given the approach of winter and the likely bombing of the Russian Energy<\/a> infrastructure of ukraine, and already under during the speech before the leaders at the opening of the summit, and Volodymyr Zelenskyi<\/a> emphasized that the end of the war is now an impossibility, what is needed is the victory of ukraine , so that russia is also safe, and russia is considering various scenarios for the coming years, if there is any pause in these aggressions against ukraine, any freezing of the situation, then a new critical moment will come in 2028. If russia is allowed to adapt now, then in 2028 the kremlin will be able to restore the military potential that we destroyed and russia will have enough power to attack the countries that are the focus of russian expansion. Apart from ukraine, these are definitely countries Baltic States<\/a> and precisely those countries on the territory of which russian contingents are present. This is clear information from our intelligence. We are signaling this to you. By the way, journalists also asked high representative jesztep borel whether the European Union<\/a> will be able to cover the needs of ukraine if the us does not agree on financial aid, borel said no, but assured of support for ukraine, which was signaled by most of the leaders, arriving at the meeting, as much as it will be needed, everyone said, and including them, they said that they would support financially. Well, actually it will be about solidarity, unity and of course all the support not only from european governments. But also from the side of our societies, i think that all europeans support Volodymyr Zelenskyi<\/a> and his country, and of course, we are ready to support and support our friends in ukraine until the end of this war. The eu has already mobilized eur 82 billion to help ukraine, and i know that the eu is working hard to accept an additional package. On the table is a proposal to allocate 50 billion euros for ukraine and euros for the European Peace Fund<\/a> to provide more military equipment for ukraine. It is very tangible, very concrete, and our duty is to support ukraine. In general, this meeting and this format of the European Political Community<\/a>, which was founded by french president Emmanuel Macron<\/a> a year ago, is a kind of platform for the Free Expression<\/a> of opinions, not only all the leaders of the eu, but also 20 neighboring countries have gathered here, it is actually all geographical europe, including britain, turkish. Armenia, azerbaijan, all countries, neighbors of the eu, except russia and belarus, this emphasizes their isolation, in total, 47 states were invited to this format, but it is generally not worth expecting specific decisions from this summit, because its strength is precisely that they see that leaders can not waste time on agreeing on certain declarations and decisions, but work in groups , to express their opinions freely, to hold a series of bilateral meetings, Volodymyr Zelenskyi<\/a>, by the way, has already held a series of bilateral talks with the french president , with the german chancellor, with the Prime Minister<\/a> of armenia pashinyan, and so on, the meeting also discussed, by the way , or this time, zelensky will meet with polish Prime Minister<\/a> morawiecki, but his participation was not confirmed until the last because of the elections in the country, in general, he planned to arrive already in the evening due to his busyness with the election campaigns, well, it seems this time, as well as at the General Assembly<\/a> oon, their meetings. It will take place, on the other hand, the trade representative of ukraine taras kachko, who is currently visiting brussels, assured that the grain crisis with poland is not so acute at the moment, and that the court order in the court of justice is now on pause, and according to taras kaishka, very constructive negotiations between ukraine and poland are currently underway at the lower levels, in the coming weeks, the issues should be resolved, so you should not distract the leaders of the states, on these problems, colleagues, yes olena, thank you for the details, olena abramovych, Radio Liberty<\/a> in the European Union<\/a> was with us directly in connection with the details of the european political solidarity summit. Thank you. The cabinet of ministers presented the concept of strengthening the stability of democracy in ukraine and handed it over to the g7 ambassadors. Individual deputies, both from the opposition, as well as from the mon majority, as well as lawyers and journalists criticized the document. At the same time , Prime Minister<\/a> shmigal, presenting the document, named it. The basis of the road map of reforms. At the initiative of president Volodymyr Zelenskyi<\/a>, the concept of strengthening the stability of democracy in ukraine was developed. I would like to emphasize that this is a framework document that will become the basis for the road map of reforms and which will take into account both reform proposals from our partners and our own efforts, in particular, our Anticorruption Program<\/a> will be an integral part. So, as stated in document, the concept outlines priority measures to counter oligarchiccorruption threats in the conditions of repelling largescale aggression of the Russian Federation<\/a>. It consists of six pages and three paragraphs, which indicate the main directions and measures. The first is the stability of democracy in ukraine and cleansing from oligarchic and corrupt influence. The second point is the direction of the development of competition, depoliticization and Fair Distribution<\/a> of resources that belong to the ukrainian people. Well, the third is the development of transparent interaction mechanisms. With the state, however, as i already said noted that many politicians, specialists in various fields and representatives of the Public Sector<\/a> write that the document is devoid of meaning and is nothing more than a set of clever words. For your attention, a number of comments regarding the concept. This is atrocious trash, i have never been a fan of the current government, but still i could not imagine the full depth of the degradation of the institutions of power, so that you understand, the Prime Minister<\/a>. Not only solemnly delivered this shameful delusion to the g7 ambassadors, but also announced that zelensky personally took this document away biden. Essay on the concept of strengthening the stability of democracy. In ukraine, it was prepared by a fourthgrade student, denys shmmil. This is roughly how i read, simple lord, the concept published by the cabinet of ministers of ukraine on its website. Just spanish sorm. This cabinet should resign. I understood that the authors of the concept had not read the constitution, relevant laws and decisions of the Constitutional Court<\/a> of ukraine. In fact , i will not comment. In short fierce tradition. I reread it twice. At first i thought to recommend. Let everyone know immediately, and now i am inclined to the fact that this document is very difficult to meaningfully discuss or criticize, because in places it is devoid of meaning, sometimes there is complete abracadabra. The concept, at first i thought it was some joke, then i found the text itself, they say that it is a real official document, probably written in a hurry in the office of simple solutions. It is interesting that in the metadata of the scandalous document there is a concept of increasing resilience. The date of creation of democracy in ukraine is indicated the day before yesterday, but what are the guarantees that this text is 100 authentic, except for its access authors to the website of the cmu and a mixture of soviet rhetoric behind kuchmiv huts, which is quite expected for the current government, regarding the creation of managed parliamentarism in ukraine. The saddest thing in the history of the document on the strengthening of democracy is not its content, but the fact that the authors sincerely did not understand what kind of thing they wrote, and even now i do not rule out. They may think that the mass outrage is politically biased and the authors are not at all sly. Oleksandr mereshko, peoples deputy from the servant of the people faction and chairman of the committee on Foreign Policy<\/a> and of interparliamentary cooperation joins our broadcast. Mr. Oleksandr, my greetings. Good evening. You know, someone on the network even suggested, i saw, that this document was created by artificial intelligence, this gdp chat, and what are your impressions of the concept, what can you say about it . Ah, well. I want to say right away that i read this concept several times, and you know, as a teacher, im used to rating on a fivepoint scale, lets say, i would put a solid three here by the author of this concept, or using this fancy word concept, but on the condition that this is only the beginning of the discussion, that this is really a framework document that the Prime Minister<\/a> is talking about, that is , of course i have critical remarks, the document seems to me to be a little eclectic, but as such a first impulse for further discussion, because it is necessary to start with something, because there is a very serious question, then it suits me, that is, satisfactory for these documents, mr. Oleksandr, you say that you would give the authors a trick, and who are the authors, do you know, well, because this is submitted by mr. Shmygal, maybe the deputies of the ruling faction were involved in the discussion, who wrote this concert . Well, i was definitely not involved, but we will assume that the author of this concept, or at least the person who presented it as a concept of the cabinet, is mr. Shmyganal, well, well, you are saying that if this is considered the first impulse, so to speak, the first step, it may very well be, then why should this first push, the first step, in your opinion, be transferred to western partners . Well, i think i should listen. Their position, you know, this document, it has a slightly abstract character , but at the same time, in order to write a document, specifically on this topic, it seems to me that you need to have at least two things, you need to clearly define the main problem that this document solves, that is, to make, one might say, a diagnosis, and here the diagnosis is in this document, and this main problem for development, for the stability of democracy, it is defined, and the second part is clear concrete and nonabstract tools and solutions are aimed at solving this problem, well, it is more problematic here, but i i believe that it is necessary to show our western partners and listen to their point of view on this matter. Well, your colleague, fellow party member , Bohdan Yaremenko<\/a> stated that he is very ashamed, this literally in front of the ambassadors of the big seven, who were handed a shameful letter again, literally, do you support this position . Well, i. 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