Accused of the great embezzlement of the ministry of defense of the shapovalovs, khmelnytskyi, they are not even in my opinion now in a detention center, and there minister reznikov is talking in every way about the fact that you would be out if you found yourself in this position in february when there was not a single bulletproof vest in the warehouses, yes and what was minister reznikov for then sat in office when there was not a single bulletproof vest in the warehouses, it means that he committed absolutely blatant unprofessionalism and for this he should be punished because he left the troops without bulletproof vests, now you know mr. Volodymyr, i think i have a few minutes for everyone to talk, because we will be guests later, we will continue this topic, but i want to ask you a very important question, what are people going through right now, the summer is ending, the counteroffensive continues, our armed forces are doing what they can do with those weapons weapons in those conditions, what is the quantity, what is the quantity, we know that not all of these socalled offensive brigades are currently involved in all operations. We do not have all the information about what is happening there, because even if we talk about the crops, yes, it is russian spablica they write that their troops fled from there, the Armed Forces Say that they are approaching the harvest. There are certain positions on which we are entrenched, that is , we do not know all the information. Again, the armed forces of ukraine are doing what they can with the losses , the wounded, the killed, uh, they are advancing we didnt get everything we could get in order for this offensive to be more effective. Lets say this , but we do what we can do, this is one story, another story, now winter is starting for us again. They say that there will be blackouts. There will be interruptions, the enemy will attack again somewhere there something is not ready people are preparing for this again inflation slowed down due to the fact that many ukrainians left by law, many people mobilized they are now receiving money from the armed forces and began to consume less well, as they say in the civilian market, it is two two points which the slowdown of inflation now. Maybe somewhere they exhaled a little. Maybe it became a little easier for them , but in any case. Well, plus, people are starting to watch the political marquee , the scandals, the fact that many people just this war is not interesting, it is not needed. My friend told me that she was going abroad, well, in the direction of poland, here in the lviv region or in sheginy or where, and she says that they just stood waiting for their turn and says that it was like that. You know, it is insulting to the point of tears when you see that they are queues of cars, men are sitting in them, well, im not at war, so im working here as a journalist , uh, but i wont go anywhere in lviv and ukraine, and i wont buy myself such an opportunity, and i wouldnt think of it even if i were a writer. I could come up with something so that i dont want to be here it will be necessary, it will be possible, i will be in another city, in any case, i am in ukraine, this is important for me, as it is for many men who, wherever they are, are doing a certain job, and she says, when you look at it, the men are running away. Well , then you think, why is this at all and why are the others fighting and such things, just a whole bunch of these demotivating things in this period, and i also have a lot of videos that people consume on tiktok, on facebook, on instagram, on youtube, with which they are also pumped up, pumped up, pumped up, what are the different moments and i have occurs the question may be clearer to you, you have found the answer for yourself, what do all of us russians want now . With these things and objectively, what kind of people experience depression, disappointment , anger, and a lot of things and imposed things because of it through some certain informational and psychological operations what do the russians want to provoke in us now, in this period of war, to what reaction to what action do they want to motivate Ukrainian Society with their activities, please . Well , they push us to an internal conflict in the first place and, unfortunately, in their actions there are many such factors in the government that really push people to conflict very often. The government simply does not listen to the people or, well , there are people in positions who are not capable of managing and, unfortunately, we have, as it is not surprising, the most stable sphere of social life where we get to er, hairy paw of the government, where there are volunteers, where there is a selforganized society, where there is highquality local selfgovernment, which, by the way, the government is firing from all guns, and where there are really centers of such living selforganization, there is no despair but the occupier is counting on the deberalization of ukrainians to break such moral stability, when life deteriorates, people tend to look for culprits. Well, i think that the Banking Sector understands very well that there are no such intermediate barriers left between the Banking Sector and the people, that is, now all the mistakes of the government they are so convex, they understood just the simplest ukrainian, and in the political sense, here comes the moment of realizing that there are no prospects in zelenskyi or in his party in the following there are no elections mr. 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Let me i would like to ask you to first briefly say what, in your opinion, according to your evaluations and observations, demotivates ukrainians the most today, ms. Larisa, please. I recently heard an opinion that is very important to me. It seems to me to be general igor romanenko, who called his speech on the Youtube Channel justice in war, here i am i dont know if justice in war is possible in general, because death does not choose anyone with injustice, but society can be such that it produces standards of justice for people in war, and it seems to me that this is the most a traumatic circumstance and if there is injustice in society in the attitude towards the war, when a lot of people feel that the burden is borne by one part of society and the other almost does not feel it bohdany, in your opinion , what demotivates ukrainians today most sociological okay, black and white on the one hand i dont want to fall into this again, you know, weve already gone through it many times about the fact that corruption is to blame for everything and so on, but its not cool, but it really demotivates society very much to fumigate what mrs. Lepse said about justice, im a little bit like that in what sense do i say well, you understand when you, uh, every day there you choose some money there, buy something , do something there, drive, help, and then you see it as news, like in ukraine, uh increased from the segment of fopa to luxury class cars, that is, cars for the middle class, so to speak, conditionally , on the contrary, the segments fall, and then you see this, then you see, for example, another piece of information that is published there. Thank god we broke through this Public Council at the ministry of defense another piece of information about the ungodly continuation of robbing the budget, which is 60 formed at the expense of western taxpayers, and this concerns the ministry of defense , friends, it is important to understand the essence of our war, the fact that we live directly at the expense of western money, and you see it, so do i at least you have to talk about it, but still do what you do but to be honest, sometimes your hands just drop and you dont think about what it takes, well, its just, how is it possible at all, that is, when the best really die people every day in such a quantity if it is better, of course, the citizens dont know and you dont watch it and they just really start you well, at first its just great and then you really want to go and really tear someones head off , preferably with your own hands i think that such a feeling is actually felt by the majority of people i really hope that those people who are in power here will understand that this is already a story, not even politics, this is not a story about who loves whom, who votes for whom. This story is about the banal question of the guilt of the borzeli. Well, thats what larisa said in front of volodymyr tzibulok, i asked him what reaction or what action the enemy wants to cause now. In this period of war, in a difficult period of the war, when it entered a protracted phase, and war and life are exhausting, and what action even the enemy can cause with his informational and psychological operations lets talk about this, too, about internal factors and factors of demotivation, we have already found out, and now it is important that the enemy is still trying with his ee ipso from russia or from ukraine to cause his people in society, so mr. Tsibulko said that he wants to cause an internal conflict in Society Today with these informational and psychological operations, in your opinion, something that today i want to cause the enemy to do, lets agree to negotiate , do something, just dont fight, how do you assess what his intentions are and in his opinion, what should be the reaction of Ukrainian Society in this period, please, it is very important to determine what should be the reaction of Ukrainian Society. We should also analyze their steps, not their intentions, because we understand how long they have been preparing for this war and we it was repeatedly pointed out that the information training on ukrainian territories on the brains of ukrainians continued immediately after russia suppressed chechnya, and this was pointed out to us by the way at that time by intelligent chechen people who lived in ukraine and told us from the stadium about that you will be next and you must prepare very carefully. Well, unfortunately, i think that many such good attempts to teach us have not yet achieved their goal, because there is some special ability to learn not very well in the lessons in the lessons of your own history even the latest as well well, after the terrible chechen conflict , it turned out so that you remember how much information resources were concentrated in ukraine, and the actual decomposition of the ukrainian media environment also happened in parallel, and then they studied our weaknesses and tendencies to what we are prone to anarchy to the fact that we dont know how to listen to a reasonable person in time to obey if you dont like something we turn on our emotions and start saying Something Else when landing and in fact, these are very everyday small not at all a strategiclevel issue. And it also happened through our reliable channels through our media, which is what is now called hype or what is called, well , this is such ordinary gossip. Back then , everyone was proud that he was such an insider, but in fact they were just spreading the word. Gossip about the country , instead of focusing on solving the main strategic issues, there was a sector of highquality journalism, but it was small compared to the grandiose needs of the country, and that is why russia is still studying us, how many misers came here now they are all on the channels of russia, but before that they were on all our channels , we saw them all, we understood what they were doing here and they were studying us, and that is why their aimed fire is now going on those territories, of course , creating despair in the victory of what we we cant afford it. We shouldnt say that were getting tired, that we can afford to then go and kick someone because there really can be an internal conflict, it really needs to be blocked on mineral tricks and not be in the mood for it. Society has no chance without the alternative of insisting on its best features. We have many of them, too, but we must cultivate them, and this stability and moral fastidiousness, i would say. It is still more important to distinguish from the printing press. I think there is a lot of space here, bohdan. I now address this question to you. What do you think is today, right now, in this period , an informational and psychological operation from russia . Well, from the russians, from those who sympathize the russians will work out the russians in ukraine, there is no shortage of such people , what is it aimed at . Point of view, our greatest happiness lies in the fact that the russians, how could i explain it to you, they never took us seriously, therefore , accordingly, unlike western societies , Ukrainian Society is not normal, there will not be such an impression, did you study it, by the way, they admit themselves already now that they were completely wrong about their channels analytical stories before february 24 and thank god eh hmm by and large they had only one initially very successful ipso which was tight it just came in like from the textbook of a military don how to conduct similar operations it is normal the operation of the first days of the war for these marks. I think you remember very well when the whole country was running around looking for the shizik. There are many cases of andrii fire when people shot their cars because everyone thought it was a tree. But after that, for quite a long time , there were no successful helpers in russia , because they did not understand Ukrainian Society, they could not offer something new, but we must admit that here unfortunately we helped them ourselves, that is, now, in fact, all Russian Operations use absolutely real ukrainian problems that exist in our society or points of disorder, that is , they see some problem and they just start and try to inflate the conversation this is a very simple method and it actually works. Unfortunately, it works, that is, they are not like it was before and so on. No, for example, they just take elementary things, but everyone understands the problem with military commissars. Everyone understands the probl