Meet in journalism, or there we will meet oleksandr zimi, the works of vasyl portyuk, the same one who was nominated for the shevchenko prize , but the intrigue inside is the highest literary the awards reached an unnecessary level and rather humiliated the apogee in my opinion, but at the same time, the shevchenko prize is actually a list of those authors who should be studied, i want to believe that other things will be reviewed in the same way, lets not forget about the fact that, lets say, a new reading of the ukrainian history of ukraine this is also among the tasks, because history is truly written by the victors and the mountain will be conquered. Therefore, ukraine should know what kind of history it is writing, because it is written not only on the battlefields for the armed forces of ukraine in a huge struggle , the confrontations reach every meter and of each settlement, but it is necessary to talk about it from the point of view of science. Among such researchers as timati snyder , lets say serhiy plo, there is a huge number of other professional historians, linguists, linguists , geopoliticians, whose views and positions are quite well heard in the west, and it is very important that they be heard here as well in ukraine, because after all, it is work based on moods, it is work in the information field, this is the subject and task of education, after all , the future soldiers of ukraine are born behind school desks and during prayer in church thats why i share mr. Igors position that grandmas prayer helps, but prayer for victory and orders for success are also very important to us. Thats why mamayas dance is a question of existence, its a question of our spiritual culture, its a tradition that has gone down since ancient times. 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I would like to concentrate on what igor. I will ask you about what you were talking about. People are now the vast majority either depressed or aggressive, and it is clear that literature is too. Works for the consumer, relatively speaking, this war lasts, we dont know how long it will last, and writers also have to give people certain messages , certain, er, certain sustenance that is needed now well, of course, it is possible to write or record something for yourself to be published later then after this after this war, i would like to ask you what kind of food people need now, and how do you as a writer see and evaluate the war itself and what is happening to us, what assessment would you give to this artist . Well, now i am briefly trying to formulate first of all, i havent talked to mr. Taras for a long time. Im glad that he, uh, thinks very clearly, concretely, acts, and hmm, and this is very clearly visible in his speech. That is, he is a real statesman, its not just a compliment, im already in at that age , it is necessary to say this to a person like me they said the award where am i and in order to orient myself further, that is, i want to say that we have statesmen and we have poets well, lets conditionally consider me a good poet. Once i defended my phd thesis on the topic of the artist. A textbook for studying at universities , this is the mafia, what i wanted to say was that it was proved almost like a physical law or a mathematical one, what is a Healthy Society . Wonderful poems like taras, lets say, but he is a statesman first of all, and my grandsons teacher in kindergarten. She is raising my grandson well because if she will understand at the same time, even in extreme cases when it is necessary to shoot back like that, by the way , what i already said about girls said now i will briefly say that there is such an iryna chornoguz, the daughter of my good brother yaroslav is very clearly like that well, once again, my heart hurts as a father of two daughters, why should this be so . Of the emotions of ones people well, actually, of all humanity in the context as a part of it. I also have some kind of involvement at the world level. I already understood what it is like those awards you mentioned the nobel. Unfortunately, there is politics everywhere but again, it is possible hmm, its too deep to talk about it. And to be more specific, i will actually defend myself as a writer, because you can actually get so confused. I sensed the danger that. So, maybe i ll shoot a little. Writer if you are mamai or buyan as it used to be that you should mourn the dead, or as taras said today, to call for actually motivating unmotivated people, when i go to my native village , 70 are not motivated to go to war, you understand after talking to me, obviously, but there are very delicate things here, and i say i read my books, well, im a writer. After all, im not even an orator. Now im speaking, well, its not my first priority. Read my books. Of course, what i predicted 15 years ago. And i predicted what would happen. I was told , for example, from our diaspora that you such you Say Something like that, it cant be anything short of stupid. Now they say so, you are a genius , you are a prophet, as you predicted , it will go on. Of course, work. What do we do, but everyone is in their place, and togo really believes in me as a person who grew up with my grandmother and grandfather in the volyn village of lisovoy, well , who did i become there . You can look at it differently. But in principle, my path is already frequent it is partially completed who believes me, read my books and you, mr. Vasyl, as you wish, they are available on the internet and there you will find indepth answers to all questions , because kovel is now differentiated, so i dont know if anyone will catch something or not. At least maybe he will be interested in my work, thats how i said it, if youre more specific, then you ask me a question, then im more specific, im now , well, in any case, a writer is needed now. Write it down and then someday it will show, so to speak, in retrospect, this war, but now , er, there are bloggers, we have all of them, there are some analysts , we all have military experts because of one, but it is clear that a writer is also needed as a daily word that people need, let it be poetry is a short form. So there is some kind of novella, well, but this is also necessary. Because you know, someone says, well, its not the time now, well, if its not the time, it s the time , right . Tear away from the desktop that is, i am one of the writers who likes to mean the process, as in the anecdote about poruchyk kryzhevsky. I love the process of creation in the second place of publishing books, and already on the third prize i am responsibly ready for them, because when a person is not ready for the prize, when i see when simonenka gave a direct i do not i was ready. I thought that the name of simonenko would destroy me as a poet. I said that i could refuse. Well, he said that by his patronymic. Are you a fool, or who will choose a bottle . You are already a laureate. I realized that no, this one did not kill me, even a flint. The guys advised me to apply because i also doubted if i was worthy or if i was on this right now. Well, good luck , it means responsibility, you understand, that is, it is my nature. If i was supposed to be a soldier, i would have become one, maybe i already was. I would have been a colonel there, because it is unlikely that i have achieved anything greater with my yearlong soul. I studied in the st. Petersburg elite military training school. In fact, i said that i felt like a pet in the end, just like shevchenko. Here the analogies are indirect. And so to speak, episodic, but the fact. Who knows, this is already the path of a writer. Oh, and you, by the way, one more important point so that i dont forget later. I have a bunch of anthologies here. Im currently putting together wonderful anthologies. Anthologies of poetry are coming out. Well, there are, so to speak, a mass of such. Literature, among all that, there are golden pearls, uh, placers, as they once said. I want to write a serious article about these anthologies, which are published even further and are published abroad, abroad, and in our country there are already 10 anthologies, that is, i think that some gold will be selected later anthology from that all the selected poetry during the war and will be included in such a well conditionally if i am 100 years old and literature is written this is at least for 100,000 years and not for one day there or for a week, it will be like recruiting songs you understand how we have folklore something of all that will filter out and remain that no one can say. I can intuitively predict. Well, but what about the fact that cassandra predicts everything , i cant change anything except myself. By the way, mr. Taras , ill remember literally four more minutes. Tell me, please. Explain how a statesman as a person who holds a public position. And here is the scandal that was connected with serials on time, not on time. Well, we are now turning to literature. It is clear that there are private publishing houses that work for them not only. Now there is some state funding, obviously, too. What do you think . What should be the level of support for literature, what is being printed now, is being published now, and now people can read it so that they can also get something from literature, what should literature give people now during the war, how quickly should it be, whatever laska well, if we are already talking about series, then remember the resonance acquired by the film house is our word by student writers in kharkiv, just during the period of the literary discussion of 2528 years. Victims of the system, but of course only a part of it was able to enter the gold fund of the latest ukrainian literature. I dont know when a series dedicated to ukrainian writers will appear in ukraine or an artist or a ukrainian scientist. But we already had films about the lost generations, about people who went abroad, about the same sikorsky. I stood today near the house where amosov lived, and they began to forget about him in ukraine, but i want to Say Something else about this literary with the dmytro kremen award, which we nominated and for the first time supported at such a solid level , we demonstrated an example that even in times of war , awards are needed and in times of war , writers who are equal to ukrainian citizens and whether in the trenches or at school or somewhere in the subway, but more and more ukrainians began to read books, not all of them maybe in the original maybe some of the gadgets, but reading books is about the fact that people reading books control those who watch tv , so not only series but also a book, an elitist culture, such meaningful stories, which today mr. Vasyl was able to organize on your initiative, we are actually talking about what kind of ukraine will be later , but i want to say one more such detail , the initiative before the appearance of this award took place the village council, in fact, the dovzhansk united territorial community, where my father is from, but they offered the largest monetary reward, and i will certainly be happy if pavlyuk actually offers to transfer them wherever he deems necessary to those combat units that are really hardening the approach of our sacred victory today probably the most important in all the years of the existence of the ukrainian state, but i want to emphasize once again that we need such awards extremely , we must have our own number, we must to be an impeccable reputation of the shevchenko prize and everything we do for it from spirituality and culture. This is not about scandals, intrigues, of course, about corruption , it is about purity , it is about truth. We have always differed from the ordinians , we are europeans, a civilized nation, therefore the word is a spiritual weapon, the word is the shot renaissance, the word is a huge galaxy of talented, brilliant ukrainian literature in the diplomats of ukrainian representatives diaspora is the whole ukrainian world that attracts the attention of billions of willing and captivates other people to fight for it. The feat of ukraine is also a feat that the enslaved peoples will undertake. Protection of the state language ihor pavlyuk , all ukrainian laureate of the dmytro kekremen award songs i just found an opportunity to show you such an authors video, but these are my words and lesya kokovska romanchuk music lesya kokovska romanchuk the performer of this song honored artist of ukraine volodymyr verminskyy this song they are already listening to the front line it is called fruit a kind of anthem of the ukrainian infantry lets go lets look a little listen every day we pass these gates of hell step by step step by step steps again get up get up we are tired on the way up get up get up and we go on growing autumn wind plays with things step by step step step by step the blood of trouble we are going from the first heads to smash paradise where houses and gardens a World Without a sleepy world homeless we are walking on the border how much longer do we have to go you know generals only you are growing us something that cannot be named step by step step by step you are walking cursed rockets are buzzing above the houses and you are buzzing and you will also be gone, the mass of nightly despairs step by step step by step world to where the edge is the last of your land dont swim nor cross all the sleepless world homeless we are walking on the border already go generals only you turned your face wolf step by step step by step the mole endures your love is beaten and pure in the salty cat of the white slave, the frosts will surely touch the shrouds step by step, step by step the mole is burning, time is already on the log of those who have graduated , a rifle on their shoulder a World Without, a sad world homeless, we walk as if to go, you know the generals , only you, the world is sleepless, we, we i promised this clip to be given in italy, thank you very much once again to the people who helped make this, well, here are my words and lesya kokovsky romanchuk music lesya kokovsky romanchuk also performer honored artist volodymyr verminskyi they they took this poem my well and finished it and made music for a song i know that he already has it and uh, on the front of the soldiers they listen to him and thank him and i m just uh, uh, im glad that you can join in supporting the fighting spirit in this way i dont even know i want to say this, you know, in addition to the fact that the presenter is a journalist, she is also a writer. Shevchenkivske is also a laureate of ukrainian writers. I understand how important literature is during the war. Today it can be poetry. It can be a short story. Colleague Serhiy Rudenko battle battle for kyiv books must be published, m