C suite being lied to for years and years. What im showing is i have pledge that this reform will not be forced to through in the current context. I dont expect you will know multi, theyve lied to our ancestors. Theyve lied to our elders within a month. Thats the latest. I will take stock all they want is to be recognized in their own country and to be allowed to run the country themselves. Also coming up, United Nations declares july the 11th on International Day of remembrance of b strep. And its a genocide putting it on a palm with a holocaust. And the rwandan genocide by designating the 11th of july as an International Day of reflection. And come on ration of distributed such mental side. We are committed to closing this gap and to institutionalize memory of this organization. Welcome to the de and manuel macro says he will delay reforms at spot days of the riots and the far away french territory of New Caledonia. The french president flew nearly 17000 kilometers, has from powers to the archipelago, which lies east of australia. At least 6 people have died in more than a week, a violence of the times that would allow mo, french residents of New Caledonia to vote in local elections, present macro, and said he would take stock of the situation within a month. An urgent trip from paris to the pacific. Emanuel mccomb arrived in french, ruled New Caledonia with a clear mission. As one of the is my intention and that of my ministers and the government here is to be here with the people for every to into peace. Com and security. As soon as possible you in the archipelago has been rocks by 10 days of riots in which 6 people have died and an estimated hundreds of millions of yours worth of damage has been done. The violence with spots by a boasting reform, which critics say would dilute the voice of the indigenous kind of people who make up 40 percent of the population of chrome described beyond roost. As a totally Unprecedented Movement of insurrection, around 3000. 00 French Security personnel, or on the ground. Some local is the hub form of homes visit, could add weight to effects to restore. Com that these items. Perhaps this will be some of the tensions we have on a daily basis. I hope will find a bit of peace in our country on my phone, lisa announced the controversial north change would be delayed. Despite insisting it is democratic. Your tombstone gives us could successful. I have pledged that this reform will not be forced through in the current context because that we will allow some weeks to come the tensions and enabled a resumption of dialogue to find a broad cold. But divisions are the New Caledonia is future run date rolled from paris since being colonized in the 1800s, many indigenous connex resigned. Frances power and want independence. The, the phone has signaled he wants the support for the more forms before pushing on and says he will take stock all of the situation again in one month. Lets explore this river, samuel groaner, who is an economist at the university of New Caledonia in conic a welcome to the w. What is it about these proposed phasing reforms that has so incense so many people to, to understand the solution. Ok, we have to write that in 1998 weve done normally. Uh, according to our budget was frozen. Meaning that the 4 people coming pastor 1998. So you can vote up real quick nation. According to the furniture miniature, the section is button of the new games because we have this image showing that the guy that does that Digital Congress which is which connected to the roman. Okay. Yeah. So for the roles and the government, but the people the vote at the spanish can vote steve vote for president generated share for your patient. But for the specific folder, its impossible for them to and this was any but on the key maam, and longer to present anything you can win yet because youve been just about g as a dont want to be a middle retreat more university, you know. Okay, thats why when the government does look, the edits are going to use the degree. So it sounds like a power base has expanded the franchise more people on the island, people whove been there for 10 years or more on our allowed to vote. So one of the arguments against that, that sounds more democratic, it is you guys can lose domestic, but for, for you those people 0 where metrowood to you before the seventys. Uh so, so after that we have the regression of coming from friends to, to kind of people last dimensionality. And thats why people gotta be but interesting. But you can, yeah. As a saying that if we use the 1st row that people are coming back in 10 years and kind of wont get me the lives together. People are, wed be more and more in biology and also, so these, uh so what weve had riots that weve had buildings reduced to rubble. Weve had a 6 das president macro has blamed growing inequality full of base unrest. Im is that right . So, or is this more about these votes of the reforms . The, its easy stretch cuz we havent. Okay. Do you know the new part of the social on the 20s, but weve moved from North Eastern special. Anybody use much, weve asinique anyway. So when the 1st people kind of people attempt to reach just one or the other, youre going to be bored. So thats why its very difficult to separate what you can good. So sure anybody is making inquiries and this major restriction varies. Okay, so i size from what you said, it sounds like these changes in the, in who can vote will actually make the space social inequality was wrong and make it better. Why you do you think this issue has been so important that president macro has flown ha way around the world to intervene personally because she can say that she, weve jo the, the role or shes the one who decided now and the student in the best, the decision was lead by to the primary so then the, the sees a tree tree you as it was the case and may need its his wifes 1st present game to make sure that the discussion you can doesnt really talk because you can, youll be deemed by the prices on the mazda. Why dont we just as many, mike wonder why friends is so keen to keep hold of these tiny dogs in the Pacific Ocean that are close to, to us drive in europe, that they have any strategic importance. As they see the house goes in india in the best you can see both of those. So for, for, for, for faster government and the store so that you, okay. When your forms best of the majority of the population, youre still in favor of independence and thats why i was so we have a subsidy for them to list them. I see a kind of people once in the band as a bit of so the most of the completion of voltage to a guess or a defense. Okay, so do we have an Independence Movement that is that as long as they lost the argument, we have growing social and any quality on an island where local people are poor and your pin income as i have more of the money way, has the big the impetus full of a slow change come from why, what is problem said this, this push to change the, the voting rules or its, its difficult to, to answer the question that we do the person about it to our buddy. Difficulties or Software People can vote new gauge when yeah, insurance nation. This is whats called a kind of intervention. And weve got sick, i have a purpose. They can find jobs is your people coming up phone from, from, from dressing assistance. And thats why its so important. So i should wonder if you, because people are thinking that if you j copeland, did you get it to everybody and then we find the job a positive, it would be harder for them to find jobs. Thats why so, so the system wasnt very important. And bulldozers about clearing away the rubble of what the french presence, as described as an unprecedented insurrection, who picks up the tub for bath and is the damage likely to be repaired quickly . Because if it gives a new guy that has just now its making many of the fact on here, you saw shops in burned. So actually, um, no money or insurance um with the use, but uh, im not sure if it would be enough for to fall sauce firms to reopen again. And because its, its very high. This also is one of the here and of the defense dormancy thats due to we had the the companies under the country to jacket. Id be, i have to be josh a is a good. Okay, thank you for joining us. Im real good all from the university of new canada. Yeah, thank or the Russian Media had been reporting with the rest of the armies deputy chief of staff on suspicion of taking bribes and ministry causing moscow or to the deception of less kind of general by the Mission Model for 2 months while the investigations proceed. Its the latest in a series of arrest of senior Russian Ministry latest that began in april. Although the kremlin denies of the pi just Ministry Officials is taking place to shut me off is visiting fellow with a why the youre a program out there, you are paying council on Foreign Relations. He focuses on russia, civil and military relations, russian domestic politics and policy making. You join us from phil, is that welcome to the w fighting ship . Modern is the full senior Russian Ministry commander to be arrested all moved in recent months. Is this a purge . Good evening. Hello, thanks for having me. This is a purge, but the question remains what kind of verge, whether you spell it as part of policy or image. In my view, it shows that portion is really into improving and rushes knows that capabilities. And then, you mean a sort of defense needs to update his team, both within the video in history and the general stuff. And this is what were seeing now. And so what do we know about the corruption that left kind of general show mountain is alleged to have been involved in a oh, actually this case is still quite unclear because what weve seen from russias independent investigative journalist, maybe hes got to say that he and his wife owns an expensive car of around 100000. 00, and 2. 00 is less to be honest by russian stand. Theres. This is nothing, and this is completely normal for um, for military. And to show us such a high rank actually see when a good low you would expect that others who would own at least the house or the chalet somewhere. And this person, the general, hasnt owned anything like that. So my reaction, the case of this general, this is more about clearing the cleaning, the general stuff from the previous and, you know, to commanders under does mean us are showing good and us, or the free space for the future military leaders. There weve come up under municipal services. Okay, so that ive also been taught some charges against a Deputy Defense minister. Im left ton of general jewelry could snatch off, who was head of the defense ministers of personnel directorate. So this, this new room really is sweeping quite clean. What do we know about the charges against them . Oh, yes, absolutely. Actually, i would just say that its, it doesnt matter much what are some private charges against individuals because english as another credit countries quite as easy to, you know, to bands that are to create a criminal case against any officials. Because the system is designed the ways that if youre really fired by arranging official, you deal with a lot of funds on the public mines. And also you have to some executive power. So whenever you sign off on a special document, or if i q room and document more or less, this sort of gives, gives the investigators or it goes through the service and reason to go after you run so they need it. This is how the rush and somebody supposed to some functions. Ok, but in, in a, a system that from the outside of pace to b, as in the tories, me collect acrostic as russia. If a j o you for corruption, does that mean that you being too greedy or the, you know, just standing from the wrong people . It can actually mean both, but they are greedy. Most of them are reading those bar installed the in the top excellence. But of course, once this decision is made to put someone in to get out, this means they ran it against someone for whom they should have been a gun against the. So they think they are out of power in full. Yeah. Personally. Now whats happening with the minister of defense . Im 100 percent sure. That person is personally aware of this and hes sanction best contains against military leaders. So tell us about the moms set to be behind this brush. This new defense minister andre a boost off whos not a military man as would normally be expected. But an economist, i didnt actually, i would start with the actually the 410 was the one who began this tradition of appointing civilian officials to the position of the media serve the task manager since 2001 of the administrative. And of course, i pointed, speaking about the hello, so i would say that she comes from the village family is that the letter was going to solve. Yes, a beats you wouldnt be fine because the different forms Economic Reforms of 1965. Jims day fellows like himself, hes an academic policy economist. Hes been working on russias Economic Reforms, since late nines as early as seems like 198 as early ninetys. Ninetys is also well known for being really religious, like also the ex christian religious bods around from seed since 2006. Hes been in the federal government for the president ial administration. The famously predicted the Global Financial crisis of 2008, back in 2005. So 3 years before the, the process started and in 2013, he joined the president ial administrations. You became the aid us. I would love to know what that means. So for example, under his economic tenure, rushes positions in the doing business, the global ranking moves from 123 to the 28th position. So he shows himself as a very capable technic product can be in a cert and economic a piece of the can achieve Public Policy objectives. So i think it is um you want to give this brings a lot of support to him from looking at putting up with things. Now, especially in the rush of spends more than 7 percent of his gdc on the defense and dr. Complex and the meal treats that this person cant manage such a huge amount of money more efficiently. It can potentially bring reforms to their i should be able to. Okay, im glad you made that last part because i, i wanted to see if you could draw a line between this Defense Ministry clear out and volume. It approaches warning ukraine which has been nowhere near the lightning success that was hoped for in moscow 2 years ago. Yeah, absolutely. First impression, you know, if it wasnt the fear for the war, they wont, they started it. I think theyre really planned what they call a special meal transformations. But after a couple of months it turned out to be a global at regional war of attrition. And the music was not ready for this kind of task. And despite the realization of these mailers, other mirrors, theyre showing, the military command also was too slow and to in effects of, to adjusting the need to the needs of, you know, to the needs of the crime in ukraine. And also this president ial election goes in despite being fully, you know, as im a product and unfair, we can manage to consolidate the leads and now he has bowers to change top officials for then his government, then the for the minister of defense and the countries come back from you soon, specialized the award is one of the most powerful features and in the russian political system. Ok, im a 2nd. Please go ahead and, but i must say this does not guarantee increase and convert the effectiveness in your brain because in the beam brush to the new address, i can defense on mute the generals. And now we are only seeing how they remove some of the military channels. Whats your main to be seen is whom theyre going to a point. Ok, so pulling all these threads together, some up for a for us, if you can appear into the mind the Vladimir Putin and guess what mission he gave, hes new defense minister, or they definitely want to increase the index down Domestic Production of arguments and theyve been they do want to increase the military skills stations here as command and control, and they want to improve the operation planning against also another form, paula, subjective because russia is. This is a officially saying that the area, its 4 bit west with the west and meter. I wouldnt exclude an option to they are also preparing for their voice, worst Case Scenario as a potentially expanding the conflict. I think the, all the scenarios are some where they are in the criminal and they consider it seriously. Thank you so much for joining us. Is that so clearly carol shonda from the European Council on Foreign Relations and youre going to be un general assembly, which is voted to establish an annual day to commemorate the strep. And it said genocide july. The 11th will be the International Day of remembrance of the strep, and its a genocide. Similar days of remembrance held for the holocaust on the vermont and genocide, resolution was adopted despite fear supposition, from Bosnian Serbs and the sub in leadership. And it was on that day in 1995 of bosnian serb forces started to capture. Strep burnetts unsecure 8000 around boston, mostly men and teenagers. In july 1995 of buston and sub and Serbian Forces rounded up and executed. 8000 boston yakima slim boys and men in the town of strep were needs uh, most of the victims are on. Um the United Nations had declared the enclave a Un Protection zone. But peace keeper station, they failed to intervene to the International Criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia in the hague lights, a rule that domestic constitutes a genocide. Under a settlement to end, the war bosnia and herzegovina was divided into 2, semi autonomous zones, one fo