Department right now people are being moved in rough but, and at the same time were going to have an osh, its coming from israel. Its not bright. The, i feel like people have the rights to see what they want to, but im focusing on the good also coming up in Vladimir Putin, is russia. And here in the capital of germany, marketing a war victory from the past to suggest a war victory in the not so distant future thoughts were in germany. And we think that the instrumental ization of this historical remembrance for todays war against you crane is wrong in what you mean to our viewers watching on cbs in the United States. And to all of you around the world. Welcome. We begin to which the numbers needed to wage and when a war, israel says its military, has enough weapons and munitions to press a head with an offensive in the Southern Guns of city of rough up. Now this comes after a warning from us president joe biting that washington could cut some weapons exports to israel. If the offensive goes ahead. The fear of course, massive civilian casualties in rough up or tens of thousands of people are fault to be leaving. Bravo, looking for safe haven. And for most, this is not the 1st time that theyve had to do this. Sling the fighting and rough. Uh, they can find a family is once again on the move, the heated to come, eunice, but fear what they will find the next 10 units areas safe. There is no life there. They chose to go to con us almost. Okay, so its a safe place, but it doesnt have any water or any food or drink or 8 or anything. We dont know what to do with israel had previously labeled rasa is a safe zone. More than a 1000000 people have been sheltering mia. Now its is rails laces, battle zone its is the city is a strong hold for him. Us militants. Tanks patrol easton district and is strength escalating thing with children among the victims for the in the Israeli Army Struck us with 2 missiles without warning of them and this is the criminal act of was made. People were murdered among them were little children who had nothing to do with any of this and see how you had you say the restrictions on i making life. Even worse. Israel has shuffle off the vital, rougher border crossing, leaving supply warehouses virtually empty. And bringing hospitals to the brink of collapse. Most importantly elements. What is the only human issue fuel fuel fuel that of course also for you right here age that also saw moments and that of that. So let us try to get it off to all the major a precious including hospital ration. Big old Journal Health in the saw, our estimation is that the hospitals only have fuel for 2. 00 to 3. 00 days. The United States has repeatedly warned israel against a full scale offensive and rougher and has halted some deliveries. Israel the remains defiant and shows no signs of giving into International Pressure or at least get some more analysis now with Marina Monroe and shes from the War Studies Department at Kings College london. Rena. Its good to see you again. So, i mean, i would start by just asking you, do we know, i mean, has the invasion of ralph, it hasnt begun a good evening brand was thats a great question because there is some clarity in terms of what the idea is doing. It seems like its having some clashes in eastern rough fall with how much smooth ends. However, we cannot see that the full scale incursion a for alpha, how he already started, and some applying that this might be a way to push from us to actually read to is fairly conditions of the for a ceasefire. So it might be Something Like a show for us, which is, of course, complicating israels position on an international stage, giving the fact that the us wants to limit its arms shipments to israel. If that operation is to take place. If it goes beyond being a show of force and were talking about a full fledged invasion, a ground defensive against or off, or how do you foresee it progressing . As it may be very difficult for the idea. And i know so israel said that it would be very surgical and very talkative. However, it seems like an auction more on in an urban environment to have a targeted operation. Because the idea of would have to operate amongst civilians was who must militants, most likely drafton and civilian clothes. So its very difficult to distinguish them from regular civilians. On the one hand, on the other hand, the threat will be coming from anywhere. So is, this is a move i dont directional threat. They will have to go very slowly section by section bearing in mind there is always a possibility of Collateral Damage, and the will be essentially Collateral Damage because we know is the, is riley idea is using a force as well as artillery. So it will be a very slow and painful operation. And i think the best approach was the idea of would be going sections by sections and trying to move civilian some out of the way. But there is no good approach. And i dont think they have a real plan as at this stage. And what about the role of the United States, and particularly the, the warning from us president biden, that if you do go into rasa the United States may hold back some of its weapons shipments to israel. Him, is that going to change israels abilities at all in and defensive against draw . Absolutely. I think it will be very impactful because as for now, israel still has enough munitions to hold the north and to conduct its limited operations around rafa. However, if the us is not to supply israel from an east, rarely point of view, they see it as an ex essential fide which could be lost because they will not have enough munitions in order to pursue the remaining for some off battalions and rough cost. So they could potentially cripple the entire operation from, from the east rally perspective. Lets, lets assume that the, the weapons are there and the number needed is real. Says that rafa is home to home, us as last remaining battalions. Do you agree with what we were hearing from israel that were off of really would be her mazda is last stand, it is a very good question. I dont know what kind of intelligence israel house on, on the numbers that are still left. But we know that the adf has just now closed the crossing was egypt. So there was this assumption that hamas was getting its weapons from, from egypt. Therefore, i think its very likely that some homeless fighters might have escaped as well. Uh and, and have either a, okay, bite other locations outside of the gaza strip and say in in c or e, if its sole sealed off with nissan. Spiders who are in rough off could be eliminated by israel a process. However, we dont know if were talking about the entirety or from us, and we also have to understand that the cause might live on and others might take up arms in name or from us. It is, it is a good point of what happens though. If israel says that it is going to achieve its goal of completely destroying a moss, and its going to do that, but its going to need weapons enough weapons. If it says that to the United States, in your professional opinion, can you imagine the United States withholding weapons and letting is real not achieve the goal of destroying a mouse as well. I think the United States is in a very difficult position. I think a jordan that has expressed these concerns because the United States on the one hand is supporting israel and is willing to send weapons. On the other hand, they are criticizing israel for what is happening in rough and, and in gaza in humanitarian terms. So i think that especially pre election, it will be a very difficult choice in terms of how the United States might resolve the situation. But i think they will have to try and accepted enough pressure on israel in order to resolve the human to terry and situation. First, before any military action can take place and i see u. S. Involvement in, in this specific cooperation as well in a humanitarian role. And i think that might be a way forward in order to get around this as not to endanger israel survival which has from east rather perspective is what it is, what its fighting for and gaza and without risking the lives of all those civilians. Hor trapped in garza arena wrong from Kings College london. Bring is always we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. Thank you. Thank you for having me. What does it mean for you to re present israel . Its your vision this year. Its so much more than just another song, another contest and other performance its, its truly is such a huge honor to be standing on stage and be representing the whole country and being the voice of a whole nation. And i feel the support of the entire country and the entire nation behind my back. And im truly endlessly grateful for everyone and everything thats going on and feel like have a huge responsibility. And im taking it very seriously and doing my best to our present us proudly. But those are the words of a 20 year old woman. Hers is the voice of israel this years, Eurovision Song Contest agent go. Law is performing and thursday nights to my final competition ahead of the annual pop music festivals. Finale on saturday. One is performing in melma sweet and not everyone is welcoming her with open arms. The thousands of pro palestinian demonstrators gathered in mel move Central Square only a few kilometers from the performance venue. They protested against israels participation in the song context. Well 80. Golan was also booed while she was on stage at one of her rehearsals and the lyrics to the song that she is singing at this years contest. They were also challenged and changed. Jenny, though, kept a culture, journalist and ryder based here in berlin, who was covered the san contests many times. Toby moore. Yeah, the song used to be called october rain and then of course, a lot of people said that this was the mess of tech on the october 7th. Was meant with this with this title. And so she had to change it into how we came to whats called hurricane. And she had to change some of the lines to. So instead of sending those who write history stand with me, she has nothing. And right to of my sense, when you play with me and shes not saying and im still west from this october rain, but im still broken from this. How we came and you kind of cause a Read Everything into both of the versions of the song. So i dont know whats happening with it, and i mean, i dont want to pay a wrong word, incorrect fixture here. I mean, when she performs saturday night, there will be people in the crowd cheering for her as there will be. People cheering for every country, every candidate, every performer on stage, correct . Or, or is it will that not be the case . Or of course if she, if shes performing on saturday, because as i said, todays the 2nd somebody final. So if she gets into the competition on saturday, its going to be a very, very, very heated situation because of cause its live then. And there will be a lot of people supporting her in the, in the audience, but also people against her. So its maybe addressing also a broadcast control, what to show, and its definitely to your assigned for that the politics in this, in this challenge. And now that you see is a, its a political thing. Its not, its not a so called only cultural competition. Its a political thing because its genially countries fighting against each other, you know, with thing and with caution about still its political thing, is it, and its, it is not that its all, its not supposed to be a political, but mean the whole, the spirit of the your intentions on contacting of it. It came in the 1950s after the 2nd word more, you know, it was supposed to bring the cotton together. The people who are protesting they are pro palestinian protesters. So what is their, what, what beef do they have with and is really performing or possibly performing in, in the finals saturday, not i mean my move and, and in mind with a lot of People Living there, i have a roots and some arab countries. So theres a lot of, its a Big Community that is of cost of very angry with israel. And i wouldnt say that the origin sancho does never was political because its the 1st of all, its all the european broadcast union. If you, who has an end of the who is this constitution saying we are not political, right, thats a contest as such, has always been political. That has been political song starting with for example. And this in freedom by nuclear, you know, and everybodys majority, is that the high right of the cold . Well, yeah, correct. So it was a winner that has been, it has an annual training and song, some years ago, it was called 1944 bought the caribbean, top to us. So has always been of cause body politics has always played a big part like that has been done at the national from east red as a 1st trans women, you know, also as an influx, ones rights. And of course, the Queer Community is a big part and so it has always been political. I think it can stay political and i think its okay that people are fighting and in a peaceful way, you know its would be a k if the, if the a, its a context as we where we are well aware that a people outside of our cultural bubble have different meanings, but lets stay here for this life threatening. She had stay peaceful. So the baby, something thats just the feeling the of this contest. I mean, youve covered them before. It mean its different this year, right. I mean, if you walk down the street and novel and sweden, you know, youre seeing Police Officers with machine guns. I mean thats something that we really havent seen in years past. And i mean, i dare say it really dampens and kills the, the party spirit. If there, if there was any to begin with. Uh huh. Um and the else, cuz on the one hand it tells a kind of parties, but it also elevated, elevates its this contests because as i said, cartridge has a, has a big power to include everything. Kyesha is, is including power, so it never should exclude people that should bring people together. And with being aware of that, i think theres a chance for the, for the see a contest for the brand to we address that. And if we also be important how you know, the report, us report about all this thing. If they, if they are able to, to be assessed but enough to, to say the right things and to, to, to not to, to not behave as if it wasnt happening. Except because that makes no sense. We are political people everywhere, also in the cultural business. And im wondering, could this damage this on contest permanently . I mean, let, lets imagine if the, these really, if, if she were to win on saturday, that would be next year. The contest has to take place in in is real in the middle of this middle east pallet, her kid with that song contest be able to to withstand yes. Of costs um that if, if, if thats the wall going on, that probably wont make it have the contest that is the same as an extra it was. The crania was one last. Yeah. And of course that couldnt make this. This probably doesnt happen then, but im, i think its, its, its a chance its a terrible mirror of what we are going through at the moment of all the was that we are surrounded by it, but also we should see that theres a chance because as i said its a cultural contest, it should happen with peace and with a tolerance of what with loving and understanding each other. So yeah, yeah im, im, im very, very curious what times on saturday. Yeah. Real, you know. Yeah. But hopefully theyll be more thinking for peace instead of shelving in protests, a culture journalist, jenny, and so can we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight. The federal or the one is in europe most prestigious awards the charlemagne prize has been conferred on pinterest goldsmith, the former chief rabbi of moscow. He was honored in the german town of office, together with the jewish communities of europe. The prize jerry said the award is intended to send a signal that jewish life belongs to europe and that there should be no place for anti submitting the word also honors, goldsmiths, commitment to enter faith dialogue. Read. I go to transmission to revived use communities. He had succeeded in doing this in russia since the 1990 for the rest of the following the colon version of ukraine. He left russia and protest and move to his row. Hes extremely concerned about how the post of to the 7 situation has developed. We fell from 11 to another war and its uh has changed my life, but it has changed the world. And those 2 was today a basically challenging the world order as we know it goes, but is concerned about the recent rise and anti semitism. Now that may be connected to israels war and goes off to we have seen this explosion of into semitism in europe since the 7th of october and to some it doesnt became political correct. Again, you 6 a positive relationship with germany, the country, the perpetrator of the whole crowd. Last year you move to your funeral binnacle conference headquarters from london to munich. Germany is serious in rebuilding the Jewish Community and having again, a flushing Jewish Community in the lyn in frankfort and been munich. And all those places shows the seriousness of the governor of the German Government to a habit to his future in germany. Goldsmith feels gratitude in view of the price or money, but he also sees the ward as a responsibility. As soon our prize is not only about the past, so so about the future. It requires from us, as well as from germany, from off and then to do the maximum possible to ensure the Jewish Future in new york and in german for that, goldsmith also sees democracy and the threat and considers this work to be part of upholding the values that you are booked up after the 2nd world war. Russia have celebrated the soviet unions victory and the 2nd world war with its annual red square, military parade. And moscow. Russian president Vladimir Putin use the occasion to lash out the western powers warning them that moscow will not be threatened. The parade comes just days after russia