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Insists the 1st flight for reef within weeks, the pi richardson. Thank you for joining us. Civil defense teams and gaza have discovered at least 200 bodies, buried in the hospital courtyard and the Southern City of han, eunice. They found the mass grave and the nice or medical complex, which was previously rated by israeli forces. A Civil Defense spokesperson says some of the dead had no clothing indicating that they may have faced torture and abuse. Israels military says it is investigating the allegations that speak it to you did have you correspond Antonio Cramer in jerusalem for more atanya. Tell us more about what we can say about this case. I mean, there are more details coming out and this is not obviously the end of it. As you said, the Civil Defense forces. They have said that they have found at least 200. 00 bodies in a most grave, which is located in the courtyard of the or no so hospital. And this goes back. They say when there has been heavy fighting, a military operation by the is really military in hon. Eunice in january of february, which ended sometime an early april. Now hun eunice is the 2nd largest city in the gaza strip that had been heavy fighting going on. And from the eye witnesses at the time, but also from medical and g o. As in the medical medical stuff in the hospital, they were talking at the time about heavy fighting around the hospital for us. But also a siege said it was very difficult for medical teams or for a patients and injured people to reach the hospital. And then with the is there any military entering also the hospital that was in february now with the uh army withdrawing. Uh were seeing now on these uh uh, grades uh, being uh and discovered how most so. So he said have said some, as he said, were found without a close somewhere killed there. We heard at the time from many arrests being made and the its really military so far has not commented on it, but thing, its checking these reports and checking the information and be hearing from palestinians from hon. Eunice and from eye witnesses there, that there are many relatives now that the fighting, at least and, and this hospital has stopped where, you know, the is really military. Theyve done this also in other hospitals entering hospitals because they are saying that these are come months and as of how much they were also looking for signs of the hostages. So its really all such as being housing garza or potentially for bodies. But right now, for many families and relative, theyre going back to their to look for the last ones and take the bodies to bury them in a proper a graveyard. Tanya, thank you for that. Id like to turn to some other developments now. Stay with us and well come back to you in just a moment. We know the heads of israels military Intelligence Unit has resigned for failing to prevent the hon mazda terror attacks on october 7th, when around at 1200 people were killed and 250 authors kidnapped Major General her own, i believe, is the 1st senior is really figure to step down over the attacks and leave it says that under his command to the intelligence director, it did not fulfill its task. And then he will carry the pain of the war with him forever as if when you get back across the tonya tonya, what more can you tell us about this at this point . Or or hes the 1st the senior official to extra resign over this massive intelligence failure that led to the october 7 a terror attacks by him us. He said, of course he will stay now until the replacement is found, but he is one of several top officials who have said immediately after the october, a 7 attacks that they take responsibility among them, where the army chief of stuff and the heads of fish and bait is russ internal security services, but they have not resigned yet because they have said as the countries in the crisis and they cannot, this has to wait. Uh no, he has said, you know, this was such a must have failed. Yeah, and of course it has led to the is really public to lose trust in those intelligence agencies but also in the army which took hours to come to rest, to a those of people in the que would seem in the south of israel. But of course we havent seen yet on the political level. The same uh came of responsibility. A permanent sub in you mean that to know has been heavily criticized for not taking responsibility so far. He has said he will answer a tough questions, but he will refer to it for when the war and thank you so much. That is our correspondent, tonya kramer, in jerusalem. For some perspective, lets speak to emily harding, Deputy Director of the Intelligence National security and Technology Program at the center for strategic and International Studies in washington. And thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us before we jump in into the resignation itself. Im wondering if you could start by giving us a sense of the scale of israels intelligence failure that allowed october 7th to happen. A sad to say it does appear to be a massive intelligence failure of this kind of thing, where they have some indications of what was going on and didnt process and improperly, didnt collect them well enough. That really is a failure on 3 different scales. First of all, collections failure, they didnt collect the right information that would give them the right sign. Second of all, an analysis failure where they had strong pieces of information but didnt put them together in the right way. And then 3rd, it really does seem to be a leadership failure more and more received science come out that there were analyst at the low level to work, putting some of the pieces together and flagging it for their superiors. But then action wasnt taken were to act on that intelligence. Now lets turn to her on whoever hes been. The 1st senior is really an officer to step down. He and others did admit failures fairly shortly after the attack, which was now more than half a year. Ago, why do you think it has taken until this point to see him resign at the moment, right after october 7th, israel was in a true place of crisis. And while so many leaders and then military intelligence and civilian intelligence came out and did acknowledge their own role in their organizations for all over the failure. It wasnt the right time to have a massive and in essence, decapitation of these really intelligent services. You dont want to leadership vacuum while youre trying to mobilize in nearly unprecedented number of soldiers while youre trying to figure out its really difficult intelligence questions like, where are the hostages and how do we find mosse . It just wasnt the right moment to actually engage in these resignations and is now the right moment with the more and cause a continuing and also increasing tensions with a ron after a direct attack on his release oil. Or its hard to say now why he decided that now wasnt back the right moment to complete his resignation. I think it was to be determined. It may very well be that because it looks like the operations. And so i gather or drawn down just a little bit. Some of their objectives may have been met and they continue to pursue some activity in the south. But largely theyve done a lot of what they intended to do going into gaza. Its never a good time um the rod is going to continue to be a challenge, but it is interesting that hes the 1st one and the others are still in place. I expect that at some point there will be some succession planning and others will leave as well. And what about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu . Do you think this will put pressure on him . Seeing these resignations or potentially even of further talk military brass as you suggest, might happen, you know, unlike of you. But he has not directly acknowledged direct responsibility for allowing the attacks october 7th to happen. No matter how you feel about net and yahoo, he is a political survivor. He may feel additional pressure from us, but hes feeling pressure from all sides on a lot of different issues. I think its very hard to say this will put additional pressure on him to resign. And is it possible to say who will follow in . Hell leave his footsteps here. Not yet. Um, it will be a question. I think of how far down some of the resignations will go and who could be a trusted hand on the tour as a switch from one piece of leadership to another and maybe temporary leadership to do some of the investigations internally to figure out what exactly went wrong, and that person may leave as well. They really do need to get to a point where theyve gotten to new blood, who could take our fresh look at things. But then also reassure the use really Defense Forces that there is someone experience at the top. Well, thank you so much for joining us with your insights. That is emily harden of the Strategic Center for strategic and International Studies in washington. I appreciate your time. I, its israel has failed to provide evidence backing up. Its claimed that members of the un agency for Palestinian Refugees were involved in a terror activities as role made the claim of the aftermath of the october 7th to most tara tax, which led to some donors freezing funding for the un agency. But on independent report review the workings and concluded that the agency has robust frameworks to ensure compliance. Lets get details on this from date of use. Washington correspondent, benjamin as at a group of benjamin. Good to see you. Tell us a little bit more about this report that has just been released and what parts of it stood out for you. So there are a couple of things that stood out. There is a 48 page long report. One of them is the fact that this report shows that on route regularly supplied israel with a list of its employees for bedding. This really government has not informed the organization of any it concerns relating this stuff based on this list in 2011 this report. It shows that on russ screens, the names of all potential recruits against you in the system database. It also includes the un sanctions as the reports as that one rest tablet is significant numbers. This use that a robust mechanism and procedures to ensure compliance with the humanitarian. The principal, with emphasizes on the principle of neutrality, and i quote, it says it possesses a more developed approach in neutrality than i need. Then other similar you and, or, and, you know, and g o at this took it several weeks and the team also visited many of a, the places where on roads active had conducted more than 200 interviews. Met with is right and the posting, you know, thought it is contacted at 47 countries. Different organizations feel, visits in amman and jerusalem, the westbank and also it tossed with several other stakeholders. Officials, organizations, donor and Member States and host a countries and now it presented this report that had been awaited by many also of the countries that say they will not continue a funding and brought until this obligations are cleared out. The, lets talk a little bit more about funding of course, after israel made these allegations at 12 unrest staff may have participated in the october 7th and tax we so many donors state suspending their funding. But now many have already resumed in the united states. Congress passed a wall last month preventing the us from funding the Relief Agency until march of next year. Is there any chance that this report will, will lead to a change of policy in washington of the thats a good question. Because in january, when the u. S. A new owner of lots is dont or announce that it was temporarily pausing additional funding and wal, come to this announcement of an independent review. And lets not forget that this is only one and a review investigation that is this going on. Does a separate investigation to thats ongoing at the u. Ns internal watch stuck. So we have to wait for that to and as you mentioned last month here in washington, republicans in congress added a year long funding done on to a government this spending package. Meaning that the us contributions are on hold until march of 2025. Well, at the same time, the by not ministration has continued to publicly acknowledge the importance of the organization to the region, say that their place an indispensable role in cause. That remains to be seen how washington will react to this new funding. But its true. I mean, there has been a trust deficit between on drug and its the owners and the report also says that even in the absence of allegations, a better communication with the donors is required from the side of the u. N. Organization in gaza. Thank you so much for bringing us up to speed there. That is. Do you have these washington correspondent benjamin of our school by now European Union. Foreign ministers meeting in luxembourg have agreed to extend the sanctions on iran by tightening restrictions on iranian weapons production. The new measures single out missiles and drums and their potential transferred to russia and groups acting on iran. Half the use Foreign Policy chief and joseph brown laid out the sanctions. The 3 have a, a breach of political agreement in order to enlarge and expand the existing drone regime. And to call them the sides in the airport and show transferred to russia the existing drone of regime to impose sanctions to redone. You know that to cover me sides and the potential by the time being is as not happen, but potential transferred to russia, digging through to the same uh system that we, we did for us. It includes a production site productions that was a uniform policy. Hon. Joseph burrell, our Brussels Bureau chief, alexander phenomena, has more on the topics and lots of work. Well, as you have just mentioned, their spin one decision, the you for the ministers agreed today to increase thing since on to ron. And uh, what it means in concrete terms, is that there are going to expand existing wrong related sanctions. The sanctions regime was imposing july 2023 in response to irans drawing deliveries to russia. And it will be expanded to include miss. So components and me cycles, so me, so production and me so transferred to those russia and the proxies in the middle east. Will it make a difference . There are experts and also your officials for our us cap to co saying that the run has been under. So many different sanctions regimes in the past and that they have lost or to the art of sanctions. So convention, so we will see whether the decision today will have any consequences on the ground. I would say that these brussels bear chief alexandra phenomena reporting. I do have time now to bring you up to speed with some other world news headlines. Of the Global Military spending saw its a steepest increase in over a decade last year, reaching a record of 2. 00 trillion us dollars. The stock of International Peace Research Institute says wars and rising tensions fuel the arms race. The u. S. Was the biggest spender followed by china and russia. Police in germany have arrested 3 people on suspicion of spying for china. Federal prosecutor say the 2 men and one woman had set up Front Companies to obtain research as technology that could be used to benefit chinas navy. And molly, more than a 110 bus passengers are reportedly being held by suspected she had asked a week after they were abducted in the central multi region. As according to the news agency, a f pete siding local officials in the town of find ya gara, they say the kidnappers, forced to 3 bosses to drive to a nearby forest. The British Parliament is due to vote on a controversial bills ascend, Asylum Seekers to respond to the government has amended the legislation. Since the Supreme Court ruled that a previous plan could lead to human rights abuses the Prime Minister and says, the 1st flights carrying migrants will waive within weeks, a desperate people making a desperate crossing migrants take rubber boats across the english channel, a 32 kilometer journey to seek asylum in the u. K. Britain, this conservative government has made its plan to deport the Asylum Seekers to rwanda. The centerpiece of a policy intended to deter people from making the crossing. In april 2022, the home secretary struck a deal with the want as for an minister to send people there while their claims were being processed. A 6500 kilometer flight from britain to central africa. The u. K. Has already invested over 200000000 euros in the plan. Hotels and rolanda had been converted to lodgings for migrants. Still sitting empty. As the plan soon ran into legal challenges, the 1st flight scheduled to depart a military air base in june 2022 was a boarded u. K. Supreme court ruled the scheme unconstitutional and saying it could lead to human rights abuses that prompted the government to introduce a new bill, declaring that rwanda is a safe country. Despite the history of mistreating migrants, the bill also orders you k courts to ignore the countries own human rights act, as well as International Rules on refugees. The Un Human Rights Office wait in last month. The combined effects of his bill attempting to shield Government Action from spend the legal scrutiny directed on the call to basic human rights principles. Supplements, comb with folks are International Human rights and assign them related obligations. Following legislation. We urge the u. K. Government to take all necessary steps to ensure full compliance with the Case International legal obligations. Other critics say the plan isnt just con, lawful and humane, but wasteful and expensive to when government assessment says that removing an individual would cost 63000. 00 pounds more than keeping them in the u. K. Its also unclear just how much of a deterrent effect the plan, whatever has despite all that, there has been calls within the Euro