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Thank you. Tragic deaths around and 8 con boy in northern gauze. Have highlighted the desperation of civilians for food and the lack of security in the enclave. After everything that youve seen in the past days is it time for egypt to open its border to civilians from gaza. At the top of the boards of indians is this would be participating in a pre meditation, consistent effort. 5 is the way it is to decrease the density of palestinians on their own territory and its something was pleasant they, we will not do because we support a part of city and state side by side with this it. We continue to take part of attendance in need of medical supervision or medical help. Uh we take so but a large scale, a number of products. The names were basically we were playing into these very acts. But you know, it just has certainly made that red line quite clear. They will not accept any force displacement of palestinians. But how do you balance the humanitarian desperation . I mean, you know, saved the children just out this past week, saying that we are quote, witnessing a mass killing of children in slow motion because there is no more food left. How do you, how do you balance that with your red lines . Its an absolutely great question. We are in a very difficult situation. We cannot allow finally said use the star. We dont want them to be shot at. At the same time, we dont want to be forced into a position where we collaborate, indirectly with these ratings. But by increasing investment by sending so what theyre doing is provide the as much assistance as we can ton of order. We had dropped also just at about 48 hours ago and they continue to host negotiations with these various and the countries to try to deal with all these issues. But i guess my point is, you know, at what point does egypt have no other choice morally then to open the border . Because you know, we know what this is not a crisis of youre making, but does egypt need to do more to help the people on the ground . I think we are doing quite a bit. But yes, i agree with you. There will be a situation where if theyre forced across the board, we will have to make very difficult decision. But how we respond to we, we clearly are not going to care for our students. But that being said, uh it should not be interpreted as meaning. Push them across the border and we will that yes, because pushing out across the board is not only a violation of punish penny and rights. Its also by the way, if violation of egypt is 80 percent we know of consequence. Yeah. And you know, id like to ask you a little bit about what is happening right now on the ground at the border because theres been a lot of questions about that. Egypt has been building some sort of security perimeter at the border last month. Your foreign minister classified as what he called maintenance on the border. Isnt egypt planning an area to house palestinians in case of and its really offensive on rafa. N o i was, i dont know exactly it, but let me tell you what i do know. The area where there is construction was originally an area of license buildings. They were taken down at the forward, moved out. The government rebuilt that area and invited the junction to go back to that, that they have not yet gotten back to that period. And its something that has been going on for over a year. You had the guys a breakout during the last 5 months. So the pressure also became uh, what are we going to do if the person is, are forced across support . We will have to deal with a very dire you might charity situation, but we will also have to deal with a situation where we will not in any way direct or indirect condone is really action that virus palestinian rights and i suspect. But also that violates the options that you piece with you. And that needs to be clearly understood as, yeah, so let me ask you a little bit more about the diplomacy that might be going on behind closed doors right now because and israels foreign minister has said that they have to and im quoting here, deal with rafa. Because they cannot just leave him off there and that it would coordinate with egypt to address concerns about refugees. What conversations do you think are happening right now between egypt and israel, especially when it comes to, you know, potential incentives, for example. I mean, you know, money and incentives for egypt to take refugees wouldnt hurt what it is, not an issue of money. And it said, this is an issue. We are committed to it to states a huge to stay the part of the city and part of that of the just states is guys in the west. Like if we were to, to reduce the numbers there, that will be very, very gauge. Some is a politicians in the cabinets have opened. He said, yes, we need to move by the seniors out of guys that are entered egypt or even into your and will fight financing to do so. Thats the advocate policy so we can make this look. Oh, but we have made it also clear that we will not participate in this process. Uh, and i can tell you that effects on National Security and thats a violation of the patient is taking it back to getting aid and air dropping of aid is picking up. Even the United States has joined in there are currently discussions on how else to expand the flow, and you know, its been reported that President Biden spoke last week with president. Ill cc about urgency of negotiations and bringing more 8 into gaza. I mean, as egypt your next door, youre trying to get calm boys in. Do you see the potential, if anything, shifting on the ground so that more aid can enter . Yes, i do see if there is a hostage, a partial hostility change versus incarcerated, and a temporary cease fire that can facilitate a going in. The recent, most recent incident that we saw just was 3 days ago. This was a actually you brought in and organized by palestinians and his race. But given that it was a caustic song, is raised themselves. The fact the, the group of people who gathered around these vehicles, they are so you cant have a state a substantial amount of a going in and a war zone in a culture. So theres no way to work secure area. So yes, we want, why are we austic the negotiations on the safe side also because one of the reasons stop getting People Killed but also about for more effective. You mention it. Right. And just to pick up on one thing that you said there, i mean the idea is actually said that indeed they did fire, but they didnt actually fire on individuals who were seeking to get a. But again, theres, theres 2 sides of the story. So i just want to highlight that thats, thats the perspective that they are bringing in and the official statements. Lets take it back to the ceasefire talks because they, they were due at the time of this interview. They were due to kick off in cairo, egypt and guitar have been mediating between israel and tomas and your foreign minister has said in the past days that hes optimistic about a temporary cease fire being reached before ramadan. What do you think that ccs that might point to optimism for deal . Well again you have to assemble. Just let me tell you what i think he meant he meets up. If you simply listen to what we get your national report, everybody and everybody has been telling these rays and thomas, lets have these 5 before rum about. Theyre worried about the situation on the ground. You may have to area political, but theyre also worried about it breaking out beyond the borders in the states on the, on, on these baseboards. So theres also the strength of expansion. Uh thats, that is what i think were see. Now again, 2 points to fabulous here. One, this is not a full face for, nor at full hostages 6. This is a partial positive exchange versus those incarcerated and a temporary cease one. So it will be a positive step towards a complete cease fire. Youre not going to get with the addition of the conflict or an ability to start rebuilding what has been destroyed unless you get a complex. But as one of the, you know, the traditional mediators between these parties and talk with a little bit about how you think the pressure on those parties might be right now. Because we have World Leaders speaking out loudly against the scenes of suffering right now and gaza, even the us is real strongest, allies seems frustrated. Do you see this as an Inflection Point in the crisis . Do you feel the mood could change the dynamics on the ground . Again, so it goes up to that question. I think it does, but its in the section point from either we, we start a process of trying to deal with the imaginary situation where substantially and hopefully then the post politics, the policies and the security situation or Inflection Point will be that it will let to move towards a highly volatile regional context. I dont mean sol slipped out of his way. He was, they told me you see everything from tension and alexi literally in order to the Syrian Border stuff. Right. Whats happening inside garza problems on our border as well . This is going to break out of hand, so the Inflection Point is either we find a way to slow this box down and try to resolve. Its always going to break out beyond control. So youve made the bridge, theyre basically from the temporary cease fire talks. Now, to something a little bit more, a longer term and there seems to be a lot of will and diplomatic momentum. We have to say from both arab states and israels allies, including the us and the u. K. To secure such a long term lasting piece that would indeed include a 2 state solution. You know, you, youve seen over many decades the, all of the previous efforts that have failed is Something Different this time yes. The college of getting humanity is something we havent seen for tactics. So it was always a horrible incident in our inside israel or a month by this the new territory. Is it 200. 00 . So its a nation of meters. By the way, not by the other side. But private, wrong people, so weve seen that, but to see 5 months, 30000 People Killed at least because theres always under the wrong that we dont count for 70 percent of home women and children start. We have not seen that in a very long, long time. So thats something which, frankly, i come from egypt. We were the 1st to have a piece of people with these ways. And thats almost 50 years ago. 50 years after the 1st base agreement with this it to say, not only the lack of control, you know, a comprehensive piece completely but to see the level of cubic and, and, and, and, and counter binds is frankly quite shocking. And it, it, it really birds and my god as how have you been part of this process for so long and as, and as you are coming from egypt, id like to ask you about the saudi lead group of arab states that includes egypt, jordan katara, the u a e, which is reportedly now pushing this post floor plan that would include a reform to Palestinian Authority, govern and gaza. And a reversible pass toward a 2 state solution from the perspective of arab diplomacy. What could be offered to sweeten the deal for israel because i mean, you highlighted the trauma of these societies, is that the violence, the blood shed, there is no appetite right now for 2 state solution. Israel after october, 7th or so thats why i mean, what i let me talk about what i think can be done rather than whats on the table by the, our group. Because i dont know actually how far theyve gone. Ok. I said crisis and concert. We need to say, ill give you 10 quick points, intense x, 6 Fire Hostage Exchange doesnt cost the rate that you want a terry support. Uh, security arrangements between palestinians is always in goza, including withdrawal of israeli forces. A, a, a declaration to recognize you find a city and state based on 6. 6 or 7 by say, states under occupation by the mustang its, its, its stopped by the city and say under occupation based on 67 area formation by the arab countries of their arrow, they would summit, where they said they were all have relations with as well. If there is an end of, of occupation, i want to put all of that under a Security Council resolution. Every one of these points, by the way, a supported by oh gosh, i create i want to have that adopted by the tasha by the Security Council in an affirmative vote. And then we go to the parks because that will also require by the way, elections it as well. Elections. Im part of city. Its essentially the government. Let me ask the settings. Yep. I mean its, its, you know, youre presenting here a plan, but i, i also want to ask you how you get that planned on with the mood that is currently on the ground. These really cabinet right now has said that any recognition of a Palestinian Statehood in the wake of the mos terror attacks on israel, on october 7th, which as we know, killed 1200 people and 250 were taken hostage. Theyve said, and im quoting here, it would give a huge reward to unprecedented terrorism. Whats your response to that . Were not dealing with one part of the problem rather than the other. What i didnt hear with is the whole issue, and im not actually asking these varies, and palestinians accepted at the beginning. What im saying is that us egypt, russia, china upfront u. K unit, weve all supported to say so huge. Lets agree to this and update that package and go with it. So these are ways and by the city, showing that the okay, you have is these fire. Youll have secure is all it has, it will have security. But as soon as well have a release from whats happening, youre going to have to establish a new government by the cynics to deal with guys and the west bank. So were dealing with the whole thing is to get it and slowly within a 2 year period, we can get there if you go to the, to the, to the address today cuz i know you probably got in your mind. Okay. Wife cathy, alex takes charge of guys and manage that and provide security, and thats a question which injections have been added as for hundreds of tops. Its probably the most logical, irresponsible question. Anybody can think of because we will not be surrogates, varies, but you know, theres that they were preserved. Let me just continue. But heres the thing. Yeah. They what they will, but i just need to follow up with you on that because you know and ask you to actually respond to what israel has put forward. They set out this competing plan for postwar garza, it does not include a 2 state solution. It does include overseeing security in the enclave. Youve talked about security there. In fact, netanyahu says that israel should have Security Control over the philadelphia cord, or we know that stuff, borders own between garza and egypt. Do you see any circumstances youve talked about coming together . Do you see any circumstances under which egypt will be willing to accept that the opposite cannot . Because thats what basically me. So what are the alternatives we occupied a security perspective . This is by point. Yeah, let me just tell you if you tell me that this 10 point plan or a point of a number of points you want, well also put a late show at the city and state down the road. Then you can get you anything and it will not involved is way the security supervision over guess the out of state. I would definitely be ready to help rebuild not to know what the rate to help me build and will help train and create mechanisms for better management engaged with the westman, but theyre not going to be so good. So basically secure is absolutely no way that they would accept that for you more. The reason why say that responsible. If we were to put addiction forces or training is in, we have a piece of human with these weights. And these when is inter amendments here . What do we do to them . We end up shooting, but as soon as it is ready, its not going to happen. You have highlighted all the challenges spoken, but what all the alternatives they go through is give me a structure for a plan. And then we can look at ok is a security managed by an arrow international, contingent, orange and national contingent, palestinian contingent with our oversight. The details are, are, are plausible. And we can look at creative solutions, but not solutions that end up with the facto is a optimization of guys that cannot. But i, i look again, we was the 1st design a piece of human with this. So there is a lot of security. We accept that and were looking at ways to achieve that, but only based on your cant have security unless you solve the problem. The problem is occupation. And these ladies want more transparency and more effectively security that we can, that we could look at, provided that the principal and the doctor patients there. Lets, lets move on because um, you know, egypt has been also part of this rethink of politics and palestinians. Air power sending areas and part of you know, the plans for potential governance within gauze itself. How do you see the prospects for fragmented palestinian politics to be able to unite after the war . Because i mean the Palestinian Authority president lockwood, a boss, is looking set to stay in his position along with his security chiefs. Do you think palestinians will accept that and that the p a might administer garza is widely unpopular. But let me put it this way. The only way to really administrator does that in a way thats the effective or part of sentience. And also the also accepted by these varies uh without occupation is to have a policy and published in and you understand whether we liked it or not. Promise have less support before october 7th. Now they have more support, not because of what they did, but because it was very reaction to, to what they did that kind of without the doubt it load it, the ph thats already basically the ability to, excuse me. Uh, but we need to rebuild that. It may require new leaders are not had lost it to that. All im saying is that, yes, youre, youre heading to the point right on the, on, on the head. We need to get published and use to look for a new folder. Thats why i said, we need to elections and we need it picked up by the government. And theres both, whats back and guess theres a big debate also raging right now, about whether or not to what extent her mazda should be involved in all of that. Egypt for its part has acted as a mediator between her moss and its foes. Israel, in fact, as weve highlighted, its also worked with him boss in recent years to counter and his lovick insurgency and the sign i, but you dont for you personally when you look at the situation after the horrors of october, 7th can be really be part of a post war scenario. Again, typically the scenario if its a plus worst scenario, where we continue to have cyprus of violence, theyll be part. Theres no question. Theyll be fine. Because the asset metrical, even though many countries around the world consider them to be a terrorist organization, the National Security<\/a> and thats a violation of the patient is taking it back to getting aid and air dropping of aid is picking up. Even the United States<\/a> has joined in there are currently discussions on how else to expand the flow, and you know, its been reported that President Biden<\/a> spoke last week with president. Ill cc about urgency of negotiations and bringing more 8 into gaza. I mean, as egypt your next door, youre trying to get calm boys in. Do you see the potential, if anything, shifting on the ground so that more aid can enter . Yes, i do see if there is a hostage, a partial hostility change versus incarcerated, and a temporary cease fire that can facilitate a going in. The recent, most recent incident that we saw just was 3 days ago. This was a actually you brought in and organized by palestinians and his race. But given that it was a caustic song, is raised themselves. The fact the, the group of people who gathered around these vehicles, they are so you cant have a state a substantial amount of a going in and a war zone in a culture. So theres no way to work secure area. So yes, we want, why are we austic the negotiations on the safe side also because one of the reasons stop getting People Killed<\/a> but also about for more effective. You mention it. Right. And just to pick up on one thing that you said there, i mean the idea is actually said that indeed they did fire, but they didnt actually fire on individuals who were seeking to get a. But again, theres, theres 2 sides of the story. So i just want to highlight that thats, thats the perspective that they are bringing in and the official statements. Lets take it back to the ceasefire talks because they, they were due at the time of this interview. They were due to kick off in cairo, egypt and guitar have been mediating between israel and tomas and your foreign minister has said in the past days that hes optimistic about a temporary cease fire being reached before ramadan. What do you think that ccs that might point to optimism for deal . Well again you have to assemble. Just let me tell you what i think he meant he meets up. If you simply listen to what we get your national report, everybody and everybody has been telling these rays and thomas, lets have these 5 before rum about. Theyre worried about the situation on the ground. You may have to area political, but theyre also worried about it breaking out beyond the borders in the states on the, on, on these baseboards. So theres also the strength of expansion. Uh thats, that is what i think were see. Now again, 2 points to fabulous here. One, this is not a full face for, nor at full hostages 6. This is a partial positive exchange versus those incarcerated and a temporary cease one. So it will be a positive step towards a complete cease fire. Youre not going to get with the addition of the conflict or an ability to start rebuilding what has been destroyed unless you get a complex. But as one of the, you know, the traditional mediators between these parties and talk with a little bit about how you think the pressure on those parties might be right now. Because we have World Leaders<\/a> speaking out loudly against the scenes of suffering right now and gaza, even the us is real strongest, allies seems frustrated. Do you see this as an Inflection Point<\/a> in the crisis . Do you feel the mood could change the dynamics on the ground . Again, so it goes up to that question. I think it does, but its in the section point from either we, we start a process of trying to deal with the imaginary situation where substantially and hopefully then the post politics, the policies and the security situation or Inflection Point<\/a> will be that it will let to move towards a highly volatile regional context. I dont mean sol slipped out of his way. He was, they told me you see everything from tension and alexi literally in order to the Syrian Border<\/a> stuff. Right. Whats happening inside garza problems on our border as well . This is going to break out of hand, so the Inflection Point<\/a> is either we find a way to slow this box down and try to resolve. Its always going to break out beyond control. So youve made the bridge, theyre basically from the temporary cease fire talks. Now, to something a little bit more, a longer term and there seems to be a lot of will and diplomatic momentum. We have to say from both arab states and israels allies, including the us and the u. K. To secure such a long term lasting piece that would indeed include a 2 state solution. You know, you, youve seen over many decades the, all of the previous efforts that have failed is Something Different<\/a> this time yes. The college of getting humanity is something we havent seen for tactics. So it was always a horrible incident in our inside israel or a month by this the new territory. Is it 200. 00 . So its a nation of meters. By the way, not by the other side. But private, wrong people, so weve seen that, but to see 5 months, 30000 People Killed<\/a> at least because theres always under the wrong that we dont count for 70 percent of home women and children start. We have not seen that in a very long, long time. So thats something which, frankly, i come from egypt. We were the 1st to have a piece of people with these ways. And thats almost 50 years ago. 50 years after the 1st base agreement with this it to say, not only the lack of control, you know, a comprehensive piece completely but to see the level of cubic and, and, and, and, and counter binds is frankly quite shocking. And it, it, it really birds and my god as how have you been part of this process for so long and as, and as you are coming from egypt, id like to ask you about the saudi lead group of arab states that includes egypt, jordan katara, the u a e, which is reportedly now pushing this post floor plan that would include a reform to Palestinian Authority<\/a>, govern and gaza. And a reversible pass toward a 2 state solution from the perspective of arab diplomacy. What could be offered to sweeten the deal for israel because i mean, you highlighted the trauma of these societies, is that the violence, the blood shed, there is no appetite right now for 2 state solution. Israel after october, 7th or so thats why i mean, what i let me talk about what i think can be done rather than whats on the table by the, our group. Because i dont know actually how far theyve gone. Ok. I said crisis and concert. We need to say, ill give you 10 quick points, intense x, 6 Fire Hostage Exchange<\/a> doesnt cost the rate that you want a terry support. Uh, security arrangements between palestinians is always in goza, including withdrawal of israeli forces. A, a, a declaration to recognize you find a city and state based on 6. 6 or 7 by say, states under occupation by the mustang its, its, its stopped by the city and say under occupation based on 67 area formation by the arab countries of their arrow, they would summit, where they said they were all have relations with as well. If there is an end of, of occupation, i want to put all of that under a Security Council<\/a> resolution. Every one of these points, by the way, a supported by oh gosh, i create i want to have that adopted by the tasha by the Security Council<\/a> in an affirmative vote. And then we go to the parks because that will also require by the way, elections it as well. Elections. Im part of city. Its essentially the government. Let me ask the settings. Yep. I mean its, its, you know, youre presenting here a plan, but i, i also want to ask you how you get that planned on with the mood that is currently on the ground. These really cabinet right now has said that any recognition of a Palestinian Statehood<\/a> in the wake of the mos terror attacks on israel, on october 7th, which as we know, killed 1200 people and 250 were taken hostage. Theyve said, and im quoting here, it would give a huge reward to unprecedented terrorism. Whats your response to that . Were not dealing with one part of the problem rather than the other. What i didnt hear with is the whole issue, and im not actually asking these varies, and palestinians accepted at the beginning. What im saying is that us egypt, russia, china upfront u. K unit, weve all supported to say so huge. Lets agree to this and update that package and go with it. So these are ways and by the city, showing that the okay, you have is these fire. Youll have secure is all it has, it will have security. But as soon as well have a release from whats happening, youre going to have to establish a new government by the cynics to deal with guys and the west bank. So were dealing with the whole thing is to get it and slowly within a 2 year period, we can get there if you go to the, to the, to the address today cuz i know you probably got in your mind. Okay. Wife cathy, alex takes charge of guys and manage that and provide security, and thats a question which injections have been added as for hundreds of tops. Its probably the most logical, irresponsible question. Anybody can think of because we will not be surrogates, varies, but you know, theres that they were preserved. Let me just continue. But heres the thing. Yeah. They what they will, but i just need to follow up with you on that because you know and ask you to actually respond to what israel has put forward. They set out this competing plan for postwar garza, it does not include a 2 state solution. It does include overseeing security in the enclave. Youve talked about security there. In fact, netanyahu says that israel should have Security Control<\/a> over the philadelphia cord, or we know that stuff, borders own between garza and egypt. Do you see any circumstances youve talked about coming together . Do you see any circumstances under which egypt will be willing to accept that the opposite cannot . Because thats what basically me. So what are the alternatives we occupied a security perspective . This is by point. Yeah, let me just tell you if you tell me that this 10 point plan or a point of a number of points you want, well also put a late show at the city and state down the road. Then you can get you anything and it will not involved is way the security supervision over guess the out of state. I would definitely be ready to help rebuild not to know what the rate to help me build and will help train and create mechanisms for better management engaged with the westman, but theyre not going to be so good. So basically secure is absolutely no way that they would accept that for you more. The reason why say that responsible. If we were to put addiction forces or training is in, we have a piece of human with these weights. And these when is inter amendments here . What do we do to them . We end up shooting, but as soon as it is ready, its not going to happen. You have highlighted all the challenges spoken, but what all the alternatives they go through is give me a structure for a plan. And then we can look at ok is a security managed by an arrow international, contingent, orange and national contingent, palestinian contingent with our oversight. The details are, are, are plausible. And we can look at creative solutions, but not solutions that end up with the facto is a optimization of guys that cannot. But i, i look again, we was the 1st design a piece of human with this. So there is a lot of security. We accept that and were looking at ways to achieve that, but only based on your cant have security unless you solve the problem. The problem is occupation. And these ladies want more transparency and more effectively security that we can, that we could look at, provided that the principal and the doctor patients there. Lets, lets move on because um, you know, egypt has been also part of this rethink of politics and palestinians. Air power sending areas and part of you know, the plans for potential governance within gauze itself. How do you see the prospects for fragmented palestinian politics to be able to unite after the war . Because i mean the Palestinian Authority<\/a> president lockwood, a boss, is looking set to stay in his position along with his security chiefs. Do you think palestinians will accept that and that the p a might administer garza is widely unpopular. But let me put it this way. The only way to really administrator does that in a way thats the effective or part of sentience. And also the also accepted by these varies uh without occupation is to have a policy and published in and you understand whether we liked it or not. Promise have less support before october 7th. Now they have more support, not because of what they did, but because it was very reaction to, to what they did that kind of without the doubt it load it, the ph thats already basically the ability to, excuse me. Uh, but we need to rebuild that. It may require new leaders are not had lost it to that. All im saying is that, yes, youre, youre heading to the point right on the, on, on the head. We need to get published and use to look for a new folder. Thats why i said, we need to elections and we need it picked up by the government. And theres both, whats back and guess theres a big debate also raging right now, about whether or not to what extent her mazda should be involved in all of that. Egypt for its part has acted as a mediator between her moss and its foes. Israel, in fact, as weve highlighted, its also worked with him boss in recent years to counter and his lovick insurgency and the sign i, but you dont for you personally when you look at the situation after the horrors of october, 7th can be really be part of a post war scenario. Again, typically the scenario if its a plus worst scenario, where we continue to have cyprus of violence, theyll be part. Theres no question. Theyll be fine. Because the asset metrical, even though many countries around the world consider them to be a terrorist organization, the United States<\/a>, a do israel. And so this is, this is the be careful year. I didnt stay at postwar scenario where you have peace. I said if we continue to have a cycle of violence, they, they, they are others, other forms of comments will continue to exercise what they pursue as their policy. What i quit putting forward is i want to rebuild about a senior constituency that is effectively supported. And presented to it just basically if parties dont want to accept that, then suddenly they get qualified them to be part of that process. If they do, they will have to change. And lets also be civically, can you want, who are we to motion . What now the peer to have the option to change. So it was as little as you to with now. What was us end up with now . What was it . My question for you is how much so they are, is it my issue is not whether theyre, theyre not, they are the my issue is how do i built a, a scenario that allows for addictions for our it was way the piece including but it seems like a piece, those are the one piece we will that work again, but frankly, im the one and were being asked to talk to thomas, whos relations with each of were always very, very care. Uh, but were asked to talk to them now and then we hear. But theyre not part of the parents. Well, okay, so it was, we talked so then i mean, you know, when you look at all of the scenarios that are possible coming out of this, 1st of all, how do you think the war and gaza ends . And when do you see it ending . Uh, do you think youll see a permanent and sized dawslet any time soon . I dont, i dont, i dont say youll see a short term complete, and you will probably fine get what hostage agreement temporaries for and then another up. But then you will have outbreaks from the agreement and regression. Uh, neither side really is way to make a strategic decision be got these varies or how much. Uh, and thats the, that is what is required. That, thats why at the beginning i said lets put together a package that we outside the region. Thats how we, we beyond the parties accept. And then we Start Talking<\/a> to the partys, their center, to see if we could sell this. Basically i, i agree with you, they set them up today is not for 2 states use, but actually its the only ones well get them out of this process. As a former negotiator do, i think i could go and do it tomorrow. Of course. Now, the states largest, you cannot be reached, then what i mean. What realistic alternative do you see to a 2 state solution that can provide peace in the region or is there not a . Theres a, there is not, which is the others alternative is a once the reality, which would be a continuous concept, same person is raise. Because they almost one National Identity<\/a> on a very small piece of land and neither side will give it up completely to the other. Furthermore, if you dont allow that equal rights, you will have conflicts with in the one state. So to speak, to usually is extremely difficult and one states and yours is computing you boss as it is. And whats the reality thats going to have construct not off on a um we have unfortunately run out of time. We thank you so much for joining us. Here on conflicts on thank you for your time. Thank you. The to the point. Strong opinion, clear positions, international perspective. Following super tuesday, the us president ial election in november is shaping up to be a re match truck versus buying. Is it a race that poses worldwide risk . Find out on to the point to the point. In 13 minutes on the double, you know, we are being chased and they are pulling out of people that we ask to be very fast. Check when you have reception based. 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