Its for again, how about the kind of im christine window. Welcome to the program. The is really ministry has ordered 1100000000 palestinians to relocate to the south of guys that they have been given 24 hours to evacuate. The u. N. Stays movement on that scale would be impossible without devastating humanitarian consequences. O israels, where the tree is massing near the border head of an expected Ground Defense the theres been no less happiness strikes on the territory. Palestinian Officials Say more than 1500 people, including the 500 children have been killed. And im joined now by our Senior International correspondent funding if a child whos in jerusalem for us. Funny, its good to see you. Tell us more about this order by israel for people to northern garza, to evacuate to the south in 24 hours. This order really just appears to be sheet impossible to execute because if you look at the number that they are about 2000000 people who live in gaza strip and about half of them are located in the newest one. Already hundreds of thousands of people are displaced within gaza strip already because of the recent strives. You really just called a stop and wondering how in the world is it supposed to be practically possible to move this many people from the north, especially from gauze, a city to the south. Now the wind has already pointed out, as weve just heard, that it is impossible to do so without any humanitarian consequences already. If you zoom in on whats happening right now, the dire situation for ordinary citizens in a guys trust you can only see and, and, and, and, and get a sense of the, the, the she or hopelessness for people. They are many of them who have lost their homes, many of them for me to survive. Its been about thinking out about about a future, but really thinking about survival without the very basics, like clean water without power. And im talking about the fuel to power emergency generators to make sure that people in hospitals a survive. So a very, very difficult and dire situation here. And this order of idea of to tell people to leave a note with the goal is to go towards the south. Also, all of the integrated indicates a very important thing that israel is ready to go in is right. Hes ready to to go ahead with the next steps and stop the ground. Defensive. Yeah. And stay on that note on you. We see that troops is ready troops on massing, but around the board with gaza is, is this now part of that strategy . Exactly. Theres a massive a build up both of the troops and tags along the both of the visa and border with gaza strip. Everything appears to be quite a minute in terms of going in and as you through all this problem to send it. And you always pointed out over and over again, theyre going to make sure to take out those homeless militants believe to be, especially in the north, in tunnels, around a, the northern part of gauze strips, specifically in, already, even without, by the way, those tanks going in the people of gaza are experiencing the consequences of them a try to take out time to submit it is by the number, the quantity of bomb being said, just alone overnight. 750. 00 military targets with truck, according to the idea of. So you can imagine the scope is not just in terms of try to take out militant a lot, but also the scope and the scale over those attacks. For ordering the ordinary palestinians living in a gaza strip, every thing the build up along the goddess trip. The soul emphasizes it on the lines that yes, each route is ready to go in and to stop with the next step of what they call war against homeless militants. All right, that is the w. C and international, corresponding funding for child interested in. Thank you. Funny and were going to cross over to gaza now to speak to hashem pollution. Hes a june list base there and he joins me via telephone the to have you on the program, a hash him. So just as weve been discussing with my colleague at the, is ready to defend, suppose this has given people 24 hours to leave northern guys of what is happening, where you are a its holly clear take care have a k. If people are low, i mean they lost their minds. They are like, they are thinking, calling everybody trying to communicate and to understand whats happening. This is the new thing that happened in yalls. I never been before. People to know what to do, where to go by the local come in a 30 here thing they did to. This is a, this is not true and people shouldnt leave and they have to stay in their places. But without giving them any instruction, what to do, you know, even if the people decided to leave, i mean its, its impossible that the type of city and the capability of all the other bottles down the stretch wouldnt be able to contain the 1000000 over one currently from, you know, and gallons of cd to the south and the structure there is a limited but as little as like even there is no in a school or more and more those people to know been in the same time that the pods and it will take all of us to minute, theres not totally face. I mean, the way that im now when i was trying to her that here i see theres smoking. No, that wasnt that. And they were frank kids today and it did a little while, which is why does it include included in the area that, that it is well and instructed people to go and they was like about 2022 people were killed there according to the local invoice and also has allowed so people dont know, i mean its not they, theyre and they all ready for you to the course question on wonder where to, to, how to go and, and what to do and, you know, is it, you said its an option. I just want to come in on that point say, because you seem to be alluding to the fact that theres been mixed messaging people not knowing if it is true indeed that they have to evacuated. Im. Im interested to know if, if youre going to be back to the anything, have you made plans to do that and what does this entail from them . It just a cool perspective is they, are they infrastructure to move people at that scale . I find that that was, it wasnt clear enough, but if i hit it like, you know, either one. So thats why im thinking of this to stay in the morning. I received this recorded message right here in the for the notes in a little while. And you have to like to wait for without saying even like how long for you know which period who did it didnt get an instruction to anything. I wouldnt, i wouldnt my, im keeping this as an option and im looking for a place to do it because honestly, i dont know where to go. You know, like even i have my car and, and its like limited amount of fuel in there and barely able to, to, to, to go there with, with people remaining in my car. And there is no and there is no, no fuel. I can refill it from deficiency because of all that the you is went out or stored in, in some places. So i to be honest and my wife and the kids and neighbors. Im understanding that like currently buy moved out my my house like a few days ago and um and then in order to his house. So im thinking now to go somewhere. But i mean, i dont know where im still figuring out where, where at, at, at, and hows going to make it happen. You know how you were talking about the situation in the south and, and you were, you were, you were saying that its just not possible for the south to be able to, to host that many people at a single point in time. We also know that the only exits in the south would be through each of them and then order it because right on that it might be that weve lost the connection to actually im, im just trying to establish that. That indeed is the case. He had alluded to the fact that he was having difficulty hearing me, so i understand to be we have now lost that question suggestion, but we heard him telling us the how difficult the situation and people have received messages at cities. But of course, that is a difficult thing for people infrastructure. He talked about having a call, but it doesnt have feel. So that is the situation as we hearing it from. Gotcha. Well see if we can maybe get him back onto the Program Later to finish that conversation, but for now that was the gymnast hashem pollution in casa talking to us there. Now, how must meanwhile, has told People Living in northern garza to stay in their homes. Thats despite the warning from israel submitted tree for them to be of activities. Israel has told 1100000 people to leave. Thats about half of the population of the entire gaza strip. Now with team from gym and Public Television sent this report from inside garza, this guy is a hotel has become a refuge for civilians. Diplomats, in general is a place of relative safety. So back from the surrounding residential blocks in this densely populated area of the billing with smoking, dust for mrs. Railey massaged strikes. Hes really media say 3600 targets in gauze. A of soap of being hit buys a is a trained pharmacist. She does what she can to treat the injured administrating 1st aid in the hope thats an ambulance will come to take the casualties to hospital and heavy and see at the moment we have 4 wounded people. Here. Weve tried our best to stabilize them, but we need an ambulance as quickly as possible. There just arent any. Even waiting for 5 hours already. I mean on how and if im a salad. Hardly anyone does venture onto the street. One camera man gets as far as the hotel and friends nearby housing takes, it directed the moments late to another strike. This time the shockwave reaches the hotel lobby of how much spiked is couldnt retreat to an Extensive Network of tunnels. But theres no way for the civil population to go. Palestinian Officials Say more than 1500 people have been killed, including the 500 children. The humanitarian situation is getting more desperate as israel prox power and water supplies. Fuel to generate is running low. In the darkness repeated the missile strikes the whole, the whole situation out. There isnt human. We urgently need who monetary and intervention foreigners may be stuck here, but we also need a way out. These are civilians, here, mothers and children because even with a safe way out, we wouldnt know where to go and apply them. How to size and many others remain at the hotel. No one knows how long they will be there. Im now joined by estimate byron. He is the middle east Regional Media and Communications Advisor at the norwegian refugee council. He joins us from a non welcome to dw, what are you hearing from your stuff on the ground in casa on a, a, are stuck our projects really . By last nights announcement. We have moved from worry to panic, to fear, and now to text it to this stage, raise this announcement is going to threaten and not just off, so not just an an entire office. Its elation and concept but also the future of this uh, you know, at all 6 uh our stuff and 50 of them. Palestinians over 50 of them have to leave how they are feeling for they lines that children dont know what is happening. And they think that what is happening is punishment for an entire population. This is honestly, im speaking to you and im thinking of my colleagues. Some of them have been disconnected from the world who dont know where to go this morning. This is what this is the phrase that one is repeating. We dont know where to go and our colleagues and im not even able to how in the circumstances and ask me the order is from the ideas that people in northern gaza must or head south. And theyve been given 24 hours. Is that realistic . As such as unrealistic . Good sweetie. I think of breakfast attempts to panic. People, there is no, theres no honestly, theres no genuine way you can achieve past hospitals in the old casa, have been targeted. They are over flooded with patients, some of them and life threatening situations. And also that kind of oil to gives the impression that Southern Guns are a site. And that is to see not true. A lot of areas. Im eunice, even the crossing has been, has been the targets it show that there are no shocks has to take people there and that there is no age for people. Theres no basis for people to saying this is not just unrealistic partition. So its also a swaggering features international they dont want to pick up on the point youre making about aid. We know that there was a desperate need for aids to get into guys right now. Has there been any breakthrough on that front . The there hasnt. That hasnt israel fractions to, uh, from there or seeing if each choice to the agent that theres so many sort have on 7 for the doors and inventory imposed. We have the nice being for is not just on the cheap level as, as now is this is rails actions. Were actually heading in the opposite direction, the direction of escalation, i guess, just to give you collation of to the new people under the pretext of our response to a group that is as long as troops. This is not how how you deal with a situation where you are obviously laying a siege over 2000000 people. The entire garza strip is less than 400 kilometers square kilometers me. Of 2000000 people are crowns into this. Into this trip. They have been painful, vaulted from every side. And you know, the latest you here is you telling them to go from one, im say you from dangerous area to another. All right, well leave it, they estimate buyer and from the norwegian refugee council. Thank you for for that. Yeah. The us secretary of space and to me blinking say, is that how much this recognizes a terrace organization by the us, you and israel does not represent the pedestal and people lincoln is in the middle east. And just hours ago arrived in jordan for talks with King Abdullah and petterson, you need to move a bus. He had early a visit today. Israel, where he mentioned tennessee, with families still reading from the how much terror attacks blinking described images of how much the atrocities shown to him by israel as depravity. Israel meanwhile, is stepping up its response award cabinet formed in response to a terrorist attack thats become known as israels 911. 00 at the top of their agenda. The race to bring back around a 150. 00 hostages. Many of them civilians taken by how much was the government, the piece of the whole done, the money to were still working to locate those kidnapped was up, we need to bring in more special offices, forensics. We are receiving assistance from abroad to identify bodies to know who is alive, who is dead well known who is kidnapped and we will not lift up on this effort. We will not for less help on trying to bring them home by to an until of eve, a high profile visitor. I came to israel bearing a simple message. United states stands with real and with its people. Today. Tomorrow this every day in my meetings with the prime minister, with the present hertzog, with the ministers and israels newly formed National Emergency government. We discussed in detail what is real needs to defend itself, its people, and how the United States can help to meet those needs. Going can also met families of missing is really relatives and friends of hostages taken by him us and now being held in thousands of we were married and we looked at the hearing. Our stories makes decisions human. This is a human issue. These are civilians that are missing and has been captured. Also told these the vigil honoring victims of the dead lease attack and israels history. While hundreds still search for their loved ones. I want to bring in the bill of traits, patch frank slippage now. Hes a senior electra in strategic studies at Portsmouth University and a phone a u. K. Military Intelligence Office that he is joining me from oxford. Its good to have you on the program. Frank. So israel is now given people in northern guys what 24 hours to leave and head south. Does that look to you as though that Ground Invasion is now imminent us . Yes, i think we could be fairly certain that christy the preparations visible to everybody was that maybe not maybe an element of surprise to this. Theres no doctor told that that going in. I think we can, with respect to the old, is given by the, is raising the controversies around it, but one Reference Point might be what happened in most, all in the fight against a similar terrace group. I s way reputation were allowed to leave the battery to some extent, but look, thats it. Thats a separate issue. They ask you a questions. Yes, i think theyll be, theyll be going in at some point in the next few days. They may not do a sort of full on the full panoply assault. Made it mandate for my sort of patchwork of assaults. But what say speculation, frank, as youre speaking, were actually showing live images and, and we can see what looks to be tanks over there. And as you say theyre, theyre likely going in so what does that look like then . What kind of will say, can we expect to win those is randy trips into gaza. Right. Again, look back both sides with a plan for this, the operations against i us and iraq and syria is what its going to look like. Except i think what you have here is how much is fall back to pad, best or on equally motivated as, as, as then, how about size has in terms of there also has drones that will have prepared tunnels, fortifications, strong points, killing zones, and all the rest and all that will be fully caught with these ready to be cognizant of all of that in the planning for these ready perspective. They have some very effective counter measures. Nobodys excellent. Tom and vehicles. You obviously have tanks in the streets, but you will be saying a lot of equipment. Perhaps you havent seen an action before on some plaintive we have. Its going to be really tough, bloody up and fighting. Dont forget the tunnels. I see thats whats really going to be concerning is waiting. So i think i, its a frank and around 300000. 00 reserves happened. Mobilize on the, on the is really side. But there is also, in addition to, of course this, this, this invasion into how must we know that israels also facing the street from his bola, coming from the north. I guess im asking you, is israel essentially prepared to the full full, a multi front war dances with us is yes. And they will have exercised on both of the highest come on the levels of down to the down to the brigade, just to say the units of 3000. 00 also as well. Has dedicated brigades that know the notes that are directed that way the results in those particular units will have been deployed there in the past regularly during that that periodic training. So yes, that prepared for for hezbollah and the date, its was remember that hezbollah is considered the final for me to both of us. Are you going to have us on the uh the only allow me thats defeated is right is uh ill be at a touch store the strategic level. But nonetheless, a very formidable on these waiters will be full of mold and aware of that. All right, that is lets leave at